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abhishekkadyan
April 1st, 2011, 01:55 PM
As per assurance given by the Chief Minister of Haryana that they are going to set up a Backward Class Commission in Haryana to review the status of Jats along with many more similar farmers communities like bishnoi, sikh jat, tyagi and ror. As per my information, there will be a creamy layer in OBC, then how many Jats families will be benefited and how many Jat families comes forward to claim OBC, might be it hurts their sentiments, pride and reputation?
Please comments.

anilsangwan
April 1st, 2011, 04:11 PM
कोए टाल ना करे.......आज reservation दुवा दे ...... SDM के दफ्तर आगे तडके लायीं लाग जागी.... शनिवार ने भी.... जाती प्रमाण पत्र लेणिया की........ जब संघर्ष की बारी आवे स जब सारे तर्क वितर्क करें सें........ न्यू करो.... न्यू ना करो...... यो तरीका ठीक कोणी..... योह ठीक स......


As per assurance given by the Chief Minister of Haryana that they are going to set up a Backward Class Commission in Haryana to review the status of Jats along with many more similar farmers communities like bishnoi, sikh jat, tyagi and ror. As per my information, there will be a creamy layer in OBC, then how many Jats families will be benefited and how many Jat families comes forward to claim OBC, might be it hurts their sentiments, pride and reputation?
Please comments.

nareshkadyan7
April 1st, 2011, 05:56 PM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

rakeshsehrawat
April 1st, 2011, 06:07 PM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

Shriman Naresh Kadiyan ji

Choon ke bal ki na dhakaya karo aaj gaon mein jo halat hain wo dekh ke aao aade A/C office mein baith ke saare Haryane ka theka na thao. aaj gaam mein bhot ghane ise JAMEENDAR hain jinke khood ke naam pe ek adhwad hai ar parivar 6-6 mansa ka pate kudte pehar ke majdoori karte hande hain balak aaj. BA/MA pass ghara baithe hain 5 hajar ki naukri karke sehar mein khud ka pet na palta ghara baithe mansa ka kharcha kun chalawega.
Aap ye keh sakte ho aapko nahi pata haan agar aap ye kehte ho ki aisa koi nahi hai to mein aapko dikha ke la sakta hoon.

Sorry if my wording hurt you but your hurt me more.

rinkusheoran
April 2nd, 2011, 04:33 AM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

ghane hi hai , kuch karte ho to list dun?
baki aapko pta to hai na haryana kahan hai?

rinkusheoran
April 2nd, 2011, 04:35 AM
Shriman Naresh Kadiyan ji

Choon ke bal ki na dhakaya karo aaj gaon mein jo halat hain wo dekh ke aao aade A/C office mein baith ke saare Haryane ka theka na thao. aaj gaam mein bhot ghane ise JAMEENDAR hain jinke khood ke naam pe ek adhwad hai ar parivar 6-6 mansa ka pate kudte pehar ke majdoori karte hande hain balak aaj. BA/MA pass ghara baithe hain 5 hajar ki naukri karke sehar mein khud ka pet na palta ghara baithe mansa ka kharcha kun chalawega.
Aap ye keh sakte ho aapko nahi pata haan agar aap ye kehte ho ki aisa koi nahi hai to mein aapko dikha ke la sakta hoon.

Sorry if my wording hurt you but your hurt me more.

gentleman never feel sorry for your opinion :)

vicky84
April 2nd, 2011, 05:52 AM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

Are you seeking any benefit out of opposing Jat reservation Agitation? Do you think opposing Jat agitation for reservation is an opportunity to shake hands with political leaders?

narwaldeepak
April 2nd, 2011, 08:29 AM
aatish tane ude baithe ne b sari khabar reh hain .. hahahhaha ;)


Are you seeking any benefit out of opposing Jat reservation Agitation? Do you think opposing Jat agitation for reservation is an opportunity to shake hands with political leaders?

vicky84
April 2nd, 2011, 08:49 AM
Hahahaha..JL ka sadasya soon main :D.. Ye dekho bhai:


No talks with Jats till they suspend stir, says govt
Ajay Banerjee
Tribune News Service

Meanwhile, Naresh Kadyan, a representative of the International Organisation for Animal Protection, had demanded immediate restoration of public transport and legal action against these Jat leaders. He threatened to file a PIL in case the government did not act.



http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?31325-ye..arakshan-arakshan...........kya-hai.&p=263615&viewfull=1#post263615


aatish tane ude baithe ne b sari khabar reh hain .. hahahhaha ;)

Monika7910
April 2nd, 2011, 02:56 PM
JATs will definitely going to claim, as the situation in some areas are getting worse for our community, even in urban areas for admissions , jobs, everywhere seats are almost occupied by ST, SC, OBC. so ,why we arent getting through like them? our people need it because majority of us belongs to villages not to any metropolitan cities like other general castes, but the difference isnt very high so, the govt must be prepare for every caste asking for reservation! although, according to me there should not be any reservation on the basis of caste, rather the poverty line shud be the criteria, it would be still better! and its lil bit disappointing when people asking for reservation rather than dissolving it completely on caste basis!

rinkusheoran
April 2nd, 2011, 11:51 PM
mujhe to lag rha ,ye abhishek kadyan kahin inhi ki id to nahi hai?
ek se thread start kia n ek se reply :)

jitendershooda
April 4th, 2011, 01:45 PM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

Could you please explain what does creamy layer includes/excludes?

Fateh
April 4th, 2011, 05:11 PM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

Bhai kadyan, we have come to know that you are a rich man in Haryana, now please stop writing wrong things. I heared that you are an advocate, so use your expertise in court, not at community forum. Also you tell me how many jats are so called rich or above creamy level. This is the time we must spport the movement and extend all possible help to our good brothers who are doing something good for the community. Dear, please pardon me for bit fronk expression.

kuldeeppunia25
April 6th, 2011, 01:30 AM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?


भाई या त पकी स के तू त कोणी क्रीमी लायेर त निचे............एकली राजनीती त काम ना चाल्ल्या करे भाईचारा भी हो स............

anilsangwan
April 6th, 2011, 05:55 AM
Kyu? Ghane e sein je dekhaniyaa ho to..... !

Rakesh bhai ki baat ka jawaab mile to aage baat karengey !!


Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

anilsangwan
April 6th, 2011, 05:59 AM
Community ke Jaichandon ka login ban karwaa ho s Jatland pe.

VirJ
April 6th, 2011, 06:00 AM
Konsa Jat creamy layer se neeche hai Haryana me.....................?

Mein Sun aur bata?

sunillathwal
April 6th, 2011, 12:24 PM
konsa jat creamy layer se neeche hai haryana me.....................?


mein sun aur bata?

मन्ने भी गिणयो; मैं भी -5000 (मायनस पांच हज़ार) रपिये प्रति महीने कमाऊं हूँ !! :d

ravinderpannu
April 6th, 2011, 01:22 PM
Kadyan ji,

कबूतर के आँख बंद करे ते कुछ नहीं होता, बिल्ली तो मौके की बात में ऐ हो सै..!! बाकि OBC में शामिल होए पाछे कुछ जॉब creation हो जावे जाटा खातिर तो क माडा है.

aapne aarakshan na chahiye to na liyo OBC ka 'sefticate'...!!!

anilsangwan
April 6th, 2011, 02:31 PM
Naaj ke bal ki haanke s........... Shayad iss ne Hooda ka latest byaan nahi padhya "OBC aayong" banawan aala...... nahi to apna stand badal deta !!!

Facebook pe Deepender Hooda ke naam tein account bana ke poora propaganda kar raakhya s iss ne!! Er khud ki fotu bhi chepp raakhi sein :p

rakeshsehrawat
April 6th, 2011, 03:02 PM
Naaj ke bal ki haanke s........... Shayad iss ne Hooda ka latest byaan nahi padhya "OBC aayong" banawan aala...... nahi to apna stand badal deta !!!

Facebook pe Deepender Hooda ke naam tein account bana ke poora propaganda kar raakhya s iss ne!! Er khud ki fotu bhi chepp raakhi sein :p
Mere wa baat yaad aagi koye keh to tha exact to dhyan nahi

kuch aisa tha
kuch logo mein umar ke saath samajh aati hai kuch mein experience lekin kuch case mein aisa kuch nahi hota


Anyone please find exact line for me

anilsangwan
April 7th, 2011, 07:27 AM
Sahi kahi bhai................Jaroori nahi umar ke saath aadmi ne akal aawe....

Bullhadh byaawe naa to ke buddhha bhi naa hota :p ...... buddha to hona e pade us ne....!



Mere wa baat yaad aagi koye keh to tha exact to dhyan nahi

kuch aisa tha
kuch logo mein umar ke saath samajh aati hai kuch mein experience lekin kuch case mein aisa kuch nahi hota


Anyone please find exact line for me

nareshkadyan7
April 9th, 2011, 06:19 AM
Dear friends, now show your all expertise and knowledge before this commission, to get OBC reservation cover for JAT's, thook biloya te kuch nahi hota, ib dekh lo aapni khichayee...................congratulations and all the best.

A three-member Backward Classes Commission under the chairmanship of Justice KC Gupta, former Judge of the Punjab and Haryana High Court, has been constituted by the Haryana Government.
The commission has been set up in pursuance of an agreement between Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda and representatives of the Jats, who held protests to press their demand for reservation in government jobs under the OBC category last month.
The term of the commission will be three years. The other members of the commission are Jai Singh Bishnoi of Hisar and Som Dutt, a Kurukshetra-based advocate.
Hooda said here today that the commission would entertain, examine and recommend upon receiving requests of Jats, Jat Sikhs, Rors, Tyagis and Bishnois or any other caste for inclusion in the list of Other Backward Classes of the state from time to time and hear complaints of over-inclusion or under-inclusion of any Backward Class. An IAS or an HCS officer of the rank of joint secretary will be the secretary of the commission.

ravinderjeet
April 9th, 2011, 02:01 PM
Dear friends, now show your all expertise and knowledge before this commission, to get OBC reservation cover for JAT's, thook biloya te kuch nahi hota, ib dekh lo aapni khichayee...................congratulations and all the best.

A three-member Backward Classes Commission under the chairmanship of Justice KC Gupta, former Judge of the Punjab and Haryana High Court, has been constituted by the Haryana Government.
The commission has been set up in pursuance of an agreement between Chief Minister Bhupinder Singh Hooda and representatives of the Jats, who held protests to press their demand for reservation in government jobs under the OBC category last month.
The term of the commission will be three years. The other members of the commission are Jai Singh Bishnoi of Hisar and Som Dutt, a Kurukshetra-based advocate.
Hooda said here today that the commission would entertain, examine and recommend upon receiving requests of Jats, Jat Sikhs, Rors, Tyagis and Bishnois or any other caste for inclusion in the list of Other Backward Classes of the state from time to time and hear complaints of over-inclusion or under-inclusion of any Backward Class. An IAS or an HCS officer of the rank of joint secretary will be the secretary of the commission.

नरेश जी , फेर आप जिस्से सीनियर बन्द्याँ ने समर्थन देणा चाहिए अक विरोध करणा चाहिए ? व्यक्तिगत तौर पे में भी आराक्षअण के विरोध में सूँ | पर जित समाज का भला होवण की गुंजाइश हो उड़े तो बोल बाला रहणा चाहिए | आप ने ना लेणा आरक्षअण एर मन्ने भी ना लेंणा | पर जिनने लेंणा स उनने तो लवण दयो | जब घरके-ए लंका ढ़ावण लाग ज्यां गे तो हार निश्चित स |

anilsangwan
April 11th, 2011, 08:41 AM
Dear friends, now show your all expertise and knowledge before this commission, to get OBC reservation cover for JAT's, thook biloya te kuch nahi hota, ib dekh lo aapni khichayee...................congratulations and all the best.

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1. Khinchayee??......Did you play some role in setting up this commission? Koye dharna ...pradarshan.... Ya fir sirf thook biloya JL pe aa ke....? Hooda saab ka prachaar karya bass....

2. What is your view now on reservation now - since Mr Hooda has now set this commission for Jats? Have you changed your view or you still oppose it ? I know you can not afford to oppose it anymore now. "Chamchi" factor??

3. If people here are writing useless stuff.....dont you think your posts are equally full of "churned thook" and having nothing worth reading in them?

raka
April 19th, 2011, 12:14 AM
Dear friends, now show your all expertise and knowledge before this commission, to get OBC reservation cover for JAT's, thook biloya te kuch nahi hota, ib dekh lo aapni khichayee...................congratulations and all the best.

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jat aura ki khichayee kara kare apni na karawaya kare .... thook ki baat kare s jato ne to ebke desh pradesh ki sarkar bilo ke dhar di thi ......
aur rahi is commission ki baat to aap befikr raho wo mahra kaam s aap apne dangara ne sambhal lyo ;)

anilsangwan
April 19th, 2011, 05:08 PM
......
aur rahi is commission ki baat to aap befikr raho wo mahra kaam s aap apne dangara ne sambhal lyo ;)

Yoh aadmi mhaari, aapki ya community ki naa soch rahya..... Hooda saab ki fikr mein hagaaya haande s..... baaki kaam theek bataaya aap ne.... :rock

narwaldeepak
April 19th, 2011, 11:06 PM
though this thread has been here for quite a long now .. n most of our experts have expressed their views on jat reservation, i will still dare to quote some lines ....

There is a wide spread confusion among our community over reservation , some find it difficult to accept the fact that this is the need of hour. People have strange arguments like a) Do we really need it/ why do we need reservation?
b) Will it not place us with those whom we call "kamin kandu or SC/BC" today?
c) Will it harm the community as we are large in number and owing to reservation we will be competing to limited number of vacancies in various intakes?

here is what I feel ... Do we really need it/ why do we need reservation : Yes , we need it , Jats have been a major farming community since long back , for centuries our forefathers have enjoyed a nearly independent economy ( They Used to grow in their own fields, mostly what they had to consume). Today landholding is marginal/ subsistent and jats have become poorer, there is unemployed youth. Though reservation can not provide employment to all, it would ameliorate circumstances to an extent.

Will it not place us with those whom we call "kamin kandu or SC/BC" today? : Certainly not : This is a propaganda by some non-jats who are against jat reservationl( ppl in media play n important role against us) Constitution provided them with reservation 60n yrs ago,but they have been like this for centuries, its not on the piece of paper , its in blood. We will still be Jats and same traits will go to next generations. It will just change the demarcation on paper not genes.

Will it harm the community as we are large in number and owing to reservation we will be competing to limited number of vacancies in various intakes? : In state yes but not in center : This needs to be understood well , reservation will just add to chances of getting benefited.

Mann4u
April 20th, 2011, 10:24 AM
well guys .... There shouldnt b any reservation for any1 . Treat every1 equally so that who r low could work hard to become high . No need to reserve any seats for any1 . By reservation Deserving candidates w8 and aaadu log r inside gate.. No reservation for any1 whether its for sc/st , women , obc , etx ... Think upon it .

anilsangwan
April 20th, 2011, 12:22 PM
"shouldnt b" aur "reality" mein bahut fark ho s....... Shouldnt be ki baat kare to to beraa naa ke ke shouldnt be hona chahiye..... Jo hai uss ki baat kar bhai !


well guys .... There shouldnt b any reservation for any1 . ... Think upon it .

narwaldeepak
April 20th, 2011, 05:07 PM
well guys .... There shouldnt b any reservation for any1 . Treat every1 equally so that who r low could work hard to become high . No need to reserve any seats for any1 . By reservation Deserving candidates w8 and aaadu log r inside gate.. No reservation for any1 whether its for sc/st , women , obc , etx ... Think upon it .

this seems impossible to abolish reservation in India,this could happen in n Utopian society only ... furthermore its more practical and easier to fight for own reservation than to fight for its eradication for all .( Think once... jab apne liye mange hain tab hi sari duniya khilafat kare hai... ora ki band karwan chale te ke haal hoga)

Mann4u
April 21st, 2011, 10:23 AM
lol .... aise toh kal pandit aa jaaenge ki hume b do reservation ...then baniya ...then punjabi ...No end of this Fight .... EveryThng Depends on youth .... if v people think its impossible then it il b impossible .... V r discussing it to make it possible ... newaz i agree wid u guys there il b a lot of probs ...bt end result wil b worth it .

Prikshit
October 11th, 2011, 01:48 PM
If we look deeper inside the present scenario we will observe that a large jat population is not under very good situation.
Reservation will help only a few of them,what is more important is that awareness and education standard has to be raised.
I know BA/ MA/MSc etc are jobless but if you see those who have proper knowledge and desire to achieve they are in a better situation.
Reservation is not a permanent solution at all, and as far as pride and all is concerned that has no connect with reservation.

I have seen several parents and relatives helping students cheat to get through the exam and they expect them to get a good job.
Mere getting degrees won't be a big help.
Those who have talent they carve out ways to find a suitable position for them.

You people may find the reply a lil diversion from the topic but its the need of the hour.

"We should not ask for reservation infact we should ask to curb reservation at all levels"