What love is?

[preetikhatri]

Definitation of love difeer from person to person
to me its great spritual,n divine experience,after loosing a very close relation.
But love finds its way,
he is alwys with me though physically nt wid me.
"acc to me that changes with time is neither love nor frndship"
its like a mirace that i cant believe till date,
when he felt ashamed to her wife,n i cant see him to be like that.
Thanx god.

[rakeshsehrawat]

?????????????????????

[ravinderjeet]

?????????????????????



?????????????????????????????????

[preetikhatri]

CONFUSED
pt is dat:
durr rah k jab koi pas hone ka ahsas de vo hai pyaar.
mushkillo me b jo sath nibhaye vo hai hai pyaar.
rishto ko hass k nibhaye
vo hai pyaar,
jeene ka jo ahsas jagaye vo hai pyaar.
gusse me b pyar jhalkaye vo hai pyaar.
(for my husband)

[vishalsunsunwal]

explain @ Preeti Khatri in detail ke sauda se ye...........?????????????????????????????????

[rakeshsehrawat]

CONFUSED
pt is dat:
durr rah k jab koi pas hone ka ahsas de vo hai pyaar.
mushkillo me b jo sath nibhaye vo hai hai pyaar.
rishto ko hass k nibhaye
vo hai pyaar,
jeene ka jo ahsas jagaye vo hai pyaar.
gusse me b pyar jhalkaye vo hai pyaar.
(for my husband)
Tu Karan Johar khater dilog likhan lag jya
Hothla raji ho jaga

[preetikhatri]

explain @ Preeti Khatri in detail ke sauda se ye...........?????????????????????????????????
"sauda ya k baniye ki dukan la rakhi h tainne"
tere samjh main na aave.

[preetikhatri]

Tu Karan Johar khater dilog likhan lag jya
Hothla raji ho jaga

£ meri feelngs itni faltu konya
bollywood aala tae du,arr fer har koye usne apne aale tae sunata hande,
ye shabd to bas khas logo k liye khas dil se nikalte hai.
ekdum se.

[rakeshsehrawat]

£ meri feelngs itni faltu konya
bollywood aala tae du,arr fer har koye usne apne aale tae sunata hande,
ye shabd to bas khas logo k liye khas dil se nikalte hai.
ekdum se.

15000 audiance ne suni aapke khas shabd aur ab ye sada ke liye ankit ho gaye

[upendersingh]

Love is a very fierce feeling...

[ravinderjeet]

£ meri feelngs itni faltu konya
bollywood aala tae du,arr fer har koye usne apne aale tae sunata hande,
ye shabd to bas khas logo k liye khas dil se nikalte hai.
ekdum se.

लिखो-लिखो प्रीती खूब लिखो ,दिल खोल के लिखो | यु राकेश ते न्यू-ए ठेबा मारदा हांडया करे | इहने के बेरा प्यार के हो स ? फिलिंग के हों सें ?

मन्ने एक दिन इह पे बुझी अक र राकेश प्यार के हो स ते यु न्यू बोल्या अक --जब फसल काट के फिरनी में गेर देवें नाज काढअन खातर उह ने प्यार(पैर ) कहया करें | में बोल्या आछ्या ते फेर न्यू बता फिलिंग के होवें सें .,ते न्यू बोल्या ---अक जब दांदां में कीड़े लाग ज्यां अर फेर उन् मोघ्याँ ने भर दे ते उहने फिल्लिंग कहया करें | लो करलो बात |

[deependra]

लिखो-लिखो प्रीती खूब लिखो ,दिल खोल के लिखो | यु राकेश ते न्यू-ए ठेबा मारदा हांडया करे | इहने के बेरा प्यार के हो स ? फिलिंग के हों सें ?

मन्ने एक दिन इह पे बुझी अक र राकेश प्यार के हो स ते यु न्यू बोल्या अक --जब फसल काट के फिरनी में गेर देवें नाज काढअन खातर उह ने प्यार(पैर ) कहया करें | में बोल्या आछ्या ते फेर न्यू बता फिलिंग के होवें सें .,ते न्यू बोल्या ---अक जब दांदां में कीड़े लाग ज्यां अर फेर उन् मोघ्याँ ने भर दे ते उहने फिल्लिंग कहया करें | लो करलो बात |

Thanks Rakesh for nice explanation and Thanks Ravinder jee for sharing with us..:)

[ravinderjeet]

Love is a very fierce feeling...


आछ्या फेर ते कती मार काट हो जांदी होगी ,भीतरे -भीतर |

[rakeshsehrawat]

आछ्या फेर ते कती मार काट हो जांदी होगी ,भीतरे -भीतर |
Katti gandasa sa chal jya hai

Uppu bhai ek mhains le le sani katan khater na bijli ki adas na engine ki bas dil mein farde de diye saani aap likad awegi

[vishalsunsunwal]

bahut gazab @ balhara & Rakesh Sehrawat carry on.

[RavinderSura]

जब बन्दा सम्भाव हो जाए वो हैं प्यार |
उस चुटकले वाली बात स के बावली ये तो तेरे प्यार के झगूड स , जाटों में प्यार देखण दिखान के कई अंदाज़ हों स ;)

[upendersingh]

जब बन्दा सम्भाव हो जाए वो हैं प्यार |
उस चुटकले वाली बात स के बावली ये तो तेरे प्यार के झगूड स , जाटों में प्यार देखण दिखान के कई अंदाज़ हों स ;)

इसने एक्सप्लेन कर भाई छोरे...:o

[ravinderjeet]

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?31605-Love-whether-it-emanates-from-heart-or-brain

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?31792-devar-bhabhi-flirtations.-Whether-romanic-in-nature (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?31605-Love-whether-it-emanates-from-heart-or-brain)

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?30866-Honey-Its-all-about-love-Romantic-Pyar-ke-Nyare-Nyare-Kisse

[upendersingh]

जब तक किसी से प्यार नहीं होता तो हमें कोई फर्क नहीं पड़ता कि वो मरे या जिए, लेकिन प्यार होने पर अगर ये भी पता चलता है कि वो बाजार या कहीं और जा रहा/रही है तो चिंता होने लगती है, कहीं कुछ अप्रिय न घटित हो जाए...प्यार का जादू...

[rakeshsehrawat]

जब तक किसी से प्यार नहीं होता तो हमें कोई फर्क नहीं पड़ता कि वो मरे या जिए, लेकिन प्यार होने पर अगर ये भी पता चलता है कि वो बाजार या कहीं और जा रहा/रही है तो चिंता होने लगती है, कहीं कुछ अप्रिय न घटित हो जाए...प्यार का जादू...

Wah bhai Uppu kasoota pyar hai
Iska Matlabd Pyar aadmi ko darkop bana deta hai?

[upendersingh]

Wah bhai Uppu kasoota pyar hai
Iska Matlabd Pyar aadmi ko darkop bana deta hai?

भाई, ये डरपोक बनने की बात नहीं है, बल्कि एक बहुत ही अच्छी बात है कि कोई हमारे लिए और हम किसी के लिए इतने सावधान और ख्याल रखने वाले हो जाते है कि छोटी-छोटी बातों में भी उसकी ख़ुशी, उसकी सुरक्षा चाहते हैं...इस मतलबपरस्त दुनिया में यह ख़ुशी मिलना अनमोल है...

[rakeshsehrawat]

भाई, ये डरपोक बनने की बात नहीं है, बल्कि एक बहुत ही अच्छी बात है कि कोई हमारे लिए और हम किसी के लिए इतने सावधान और ख्याल रखने वाले हो जाते है कि छोटी-छोटी बातों में भी उसकी ख़ुशी, उसकी सुरक्षा चाहते हैं...इस मतलबपरस्त दुनिया में यह ख़ुशी मिलना अनमोल है...

Sahi baat hai bhai
Bina bijli ka gandasa manne to aaj tahi dekhya nahi

[upendersingh]

मेरे को एक बात समझ नहीं आती कि जब प्यार होता है तो गाने इतने अच्छे क्यों लगने लगते हैं? जब गाने नहीं थे तो जिन्हें प्यार होता था वे क्या गुनगुनाते होंगे?

[rakeshsehrawat]

मेरे को एक बात समझ नहीं आती कि जब प्यार होता है तो गाने इतने अच्छे क्यों लगने लगते हैं? जब गाने नहीं थे तो जिन्हें प्यार होता था वे क्या गुनगुनाते होंगे?

Mere khyal "Dil Ghoom ghoom kare ghabraye ............................."


gaane hi nahi honge to gungunawenge ke?

[preetikhatri]

Mere khyal "Dil Ghoom ghoom kare ghabraye ............................."

hahahaha
ghoom ghoom kare
omg
pet dard karega k bhai rakesh
k kasuti choice hai.
:D :D :D

[ravinderjeet]

मेरे को एक बात समझ नहीं आती कि जब प्यार होता है तो गाने इतने अच्छे क्यों लगने लगते हैं? जब गाने नहीं थे तो जिन्हें प्यार होता था वे क्या गुनगुनाते होंगे?


वे भूंड पकड़ लिया करदे एर उनके तागे बाँध के ने किहे झांकी के अर के किहे रूंख के बाँध दिया करदे | अर वे भूंड इतने मर नि जांदे इतने भूं-भूं करदे रेंदे | अर उन् ने सुन के काम चला लिया करदे |

[yashvardhan]

love experience can be divided into three partly-overlapping stage: lust, attraction, and attachment.

Lust is the initial passionate sexual desire that promotes mating. It stimulate the release of hormones such as testosterone and oestrogen. The effect is only last for weeks or months.

Attraction is romantic love stage. People at this stage will constantly release chemical, including dopamine, phenylethylamine (PEA), norepinephrine and serotonin. The effect of this chemicals flowing in bloodstream is similar to stress: increased heart reat, sweaty palms, heavy breathing and etc.

Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.

[ravinderjeet]

love experience can be divided into three partly-overlapping stage: lust, attraction, and attachment.

Lust is the initial passionate sexual desire that promotes mating. It stimulate the release of hormones such as testosterone and oestrogen. The effect is only last for weeks or months.

Attraction is romantic love stage. People at this stage will constantly release chemical, including dopamine, phenylethylamine (PEA), norepinephrine and serotonin. The effect of this chemicals flowing in bloodstream is similar to stress: increased heart reat, sweaty palms, heavy breathing and etc.

Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.

ल्यो भाई या आगी गूगली | पकड़ो इहने ईब्ब |

[upendersingh]

जब किसी स्त्री-पुरुष को एक-दूसरे से प्यार होता है तो यदि उन दोनों ने एक-दूसरे को मन-ही-मन अपना भावी जीवन साथी स्वीकार नहीं कर लिया तो फिर वो शीर्ष स्तर का प्यार नहीं है.

[rakeshsehrawat]

love experience can be divided into three partly-overlapping stage: lust, attraction, and attachment.

Lust is the initial passionate sexual desire that promotes mating. It stimulate the release of hormones such as testosterone and oestrogen. The effect is only last for weeks or months.

Attraction is romantic love stage. People at this stage will constantly release chemical, including dopamine, phenylethylamine (PEA), norepinephrine and serotonin. The effect of this chemicals flowing in bloodstream is similar to stress: increased heart reat, sweaty palms, heavy breathing and etc.

Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.
In chemical ke sue milte ho to sabke la de bhai

Uppu bhai je got milge fer?


un ne savikar kar liya ar samaj ne nakar diya fer?


samaj ne savikar kar liya ar biyah ke 6 mahine pache wo bubula foot gya fer?

Ar marre batte svikar ke liv in mein rahe ar 2 saal pache bera pate mhari to compatibility koni fer ?

[vicky84]

ल्यो भाई या आगी गूगली | पकड़ो इहने ईब्ब |

http://www.mindmantra.in/article7.html

[Samarkadian]

Definitation of love difeer from person to person
to me its great spritual,n divine experience,after loosing a very close relation.
But love finds its way,
he is alwys with me though physically nt wid me.
"acc to me that changes with time is neither love nor frndship"
its like a mirace that i cant believe till date,
when he felt ashamed to her wife,n i cant see him to be like that.
Thanx god.

भड़क, महा-भड़क, करड़ी- भड़क!!


जो हर दुसरे तीसरे महीने आड़े धागों में किसी न किसी रूप में पूछी जाती है , फिर सदस्य एक दुसरे को जवाब दे कर कसुती भड़क पैदा करते हैं !

[ravinderjeet]

भड़क, महा-भड़क, करड़ी- भड़क!!


जो हर दुसरे तीसरे महीने आड़े धागों में किसी न किसी रूप में पूछी जाती है , फिर सदस्य एक दुसरे को जवाब दे कर कसुती भड़क पैदा करते हैं !

भड़क नहीं फेर ते "ताता भाड" बन ज्या स | बेरा ना और किते की कमी कित पूरी करणा चाहवें सें लोग |

[deependra]

भड़क नहीं फेर ते "ताता भाड" बन ज्या स | बेरा ना और किते की कमी कित पूरी करणा चाहवें सें लोग |

Let's create one thread having the links for all threads on this topic and post the link at home page for ready reference:):):)

[rana1]

दिल होना चाहिए
जिगेर होना चाहिए
आशिकी के लिये
एक हुनर होना चाहिए
नजर से नजर मिलने पर
इश्क नहीं होता
नजर के उस पार भी असर होना चाहिए !!!

[upendersingh]

प्यारे शहद ,
ये सब लव में मोजूद ठरक को लेकर है , कोई बड़ी बात नहीं लेकिन क्या
---ओ प्यारे शहद, ''तुम इस ठरक नामक कसुती भावना को प्रेम जैसी दूसरी कसुत भावना से सफलता पूर्वक अलग कर सकते हो'' ?
क्यों की ठरक अर रोकेट आदमी को कहीं भी ले जा सकते हैं और कुछ भी बक बक करवा सकते हैं !
महान प्लेटो ने इसी ठरक को Platonic Love की संज्ञा दी है!

भड़क, महा-भड़क, करड़ी- भड़क!!

जो हर दुसरे तीसरे महीने आड़े धागों में किसी न किसी रूप में पूछी जाती है , फिर सदस्य एक दुसरे को जवाब दे कर कसुती भड़क पैदा करते हैं !



:rock:rock:rock:rock:rock

[ravinderjeet]

q . लव क्या हे ?
a . एक कीड़ा हे |

[Malikpriya]

Love ram ka beta tha adhik jaankari k liye Ramayan padheee.................Jai shri Ram...!!!

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE=ravinderjeet;280601 यु राकेश ते न्यू-ए ठेबा मारदा हांडया करे | इहने के बेरा प्यार के हो स ? फिलिंग के हों सें ?
|[/QUOTE]

ek bae rakeshjee nae ya bhi kahee thee - something like - kaalae shir aalae ... My jaatu is not very good- but I think what it means is promiscusity! ha ha ha ha!!!
According to him, this is the only feeling men have!

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOT.[/QUOTE

Preeti jee, are you really this girl in the photo????? :) :) :)

[urmiladuhan]

In chemical ke sue milte ho to sabke la de bhai

Uppu bhai je got milge fer?


un ne savikar kar liya ar samaj ne nakar diya fer?


samaj ne savikar kar liya ar biyah ke 6 mahine pache wo bubula foot gya fer?

Ar marre batte svikar ke liv in mein rahe ar 2 saal pache bera pate mhari to compatibility koni fer ?



pher aapnae aapnae kurtae tha k chaalo!! :) :) ha ha ha ha!!! khel khatam paisa hazam!!!

[rakeshsehrawat]

ek bae rakeshjee nae ya bhi kahee thee - something like - kaalae shir aalae ... My jaatu is not very good- but I think what it means is promiscusity! ha ha ha ha!!!
According to him, this is the only feeling men have!

According to me a the one with black head is never satisfied with what he got (females included)

[urmiladuhan]

According to me a the one with black head is never satisfied with what he got (females included)

pher kyukar jee laagae se essae maansan ka Rakeshjee? - forever unsatisfied. terrible for them!

I am thoroughly satisfied with what I have - thank GOD for that!

[urmiladuhan]

According to me a the one with black head is never satisfied with what he got (females included)

In my opinion, once a person has chosen his/her partner, then the recipe for getting satisfaction is keep improving upon oneself with time so that satisfaction level does not diminish (true for both partners). Otherwise, life will be a constant chase for something better but without any long term satisfaction.

[rakeshsehrawat]

Words are ment to be spoken.Keep pouring. This is something that i haven't said i just told. If you are satisfied then you will be first person of this world to get nirvana a blissful space where there is no gravity or emotion. I think you have achieved something that is needed to be told to evryone.

Are dekh ke aiyo Inder ka singhasan to nahi dol gya

[urmiladuhan]

If you are satisfied then you will be first person of this world to get nirvana a blissful space where there is no gravity or emotion.

On the contrary, there is Gravity, very good emotions and many other good things! Only the person who gets it knows! Anyway, I see black hair on your head!!!! - you couldn't possibly know!

[amankadian]

For a girl

Someone love her as princess
Someone respect her as lady
Someone make feel her as women

Love is a respect of the feeling of others heart.

[upendersingh]

प्यार किसी को भी एक अहसान की तरह मिलता है. इसे वो ही निभा सकता है जो अहसानफरामोश न हो...

[rakeshsehrawat]

प्यार किसी को भी एक अहसान की तरह मिलता है. इसे वो ही निभा सकता है जो अहसानफरामोश न हो...
Khamkha loga ne bhakawe na re

http://www.humanthermodynamics.com/rp2-love.html
in 150 definition mein tein ek bhi koni ya

[ravinderjeet]

सारे एक दुसरे ऩे भकाण लाग रे सें | आपणे-आपणे तरीके तें |

[JSRana]

सारे एक दुसरे ऩे भकाण लाग रे सें | आपणे-आपणे तरीके तें |

भाई मने त प्यार की या सब से बढ़िया डेफिनेशन (परिभाषा ) लागी स |

[Malikpriya]

Pyaar wa lailaaz bimaari hai jisne aaj kal ke baalka ki issi tissi kar rakhi hai .........:p

[cutejaatsandeep]

kyo pyaaar vyaar ke chakkar mai time barbadd karnaaa...kaam woo karo jiske liyee duniyaa jaaat ko jaanti hai...jaise badmashi....ladai...murder..daaru pinaaa pherr duniyaa ko taang karnaa...agar hum pyaar ke chakkar mai paad gee to hamari to pechaan khatam ho jaagi:) m i rite miss khatri:)

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE bimaari. [/QUOTE]

ha ha ha ha!! :) :) it makes one stronger after it is over :)

[amankadian]

Pyaar wa lailaaz bimaari hai jisne aaj kal ke baalka ki issi tissi kar rakhi hai .........:p

Hahaha Aaj kal ke baalka ne pyaar ki issi tissi kar rhaki hai ................Pyaar ne na haha

[amankadian]

kyo pyaaar vyaar ke chakkar mai time barbadd karnaaa...kaam woo karo jiske liyee duniyaa jaaat ko jaanti hai...jaise badmashi....ladai...murder..daaru pinaaa pherr duniyaa ko taang karnaa...agar hum pyaar ke chakkar mai paad gee to hamari to pechaan khatam ho jaagi:) m i rite miss khatri:)
haha shi khwe hai cowboy hahah

[preetikhatri]

i dnt agree wid u mr. sandeep.
u dnt knw what actually love is,ladai janwar karte hai,
murder karne wala insan kahlane k layak nahi,
sharabiyo ki koi ijjat nhi hoti samaj me.
pyaar se vo bhagte hai,jo responsibility nhi nibha sakte.
kisi kamjor insan ka hath tham k usse jindagi deke dekho pyaar ka pata chalega,or itna hi nhi
pyaar aseem gaharaiyo ka ahsas hai,jise shabdo me bayan nhi kiya ja sakta.

[amankadian]

payar her koi karta hai per ye jaruri hi nhi ki ladki se hi payar ho




koi kisi ladki se
koi badmasi se
koi shaarab se
koi bhagti se

Sabki aapni aapni passand hai ...

[rakeshsehrawat]

i dnt agree wid u mr. sandeep.
u dnt knw what actually love is,ladai janwar karte hai,
murder karne wala insan kahlane k layak nahi,
sharabiyo ki koi ijjat nhi hoti samaj me.
pyaar se vo bhagte hai,jo responsibility nhi nibha sakte.
kisi kamjor insan ka hath tham k usse jindagi deke dekho pyaar ka pata chalega,or itna hi nhi
pyaar aseem gaharaiyo ka ahsas hai,jise shabdo me bayan nhi kiya ja sakta.

Fer kyun khamkha loga ka tem kharb karan lag rahe the?

[amankadian]

Ladkiyo ko hamesha sach bolne wale acche nhi ladte .ladkiya hamsha un ladko ko passand karti hai jo jhuti jhuti or methi methi payar ki baat karte hai.
Unki jhuti jhuti tarrif kare

Kya kabi ladkiya ye sochti hai jo wo ladka aaj tumhe khe rha hai wo kitni ko ye baat bol cuka hai or kitni ko life main or bolega.

Ladka kare to ye kaam dunai bole usko play boy
Or Ladki kare to ye kaam dunai bole usko besharm

Jo payar karne ka dava karte hai wo hi jaydataar apni wife ko chaar diwari main pack karke rhate hai


Freedoom is Love ...................................Without Freedom every thing is ****

[ravinderjeet]

i dnt agree wid u mr. sandeep.


Fer kyun khamkha loga ka tem kharb karan lag rahe the?

ये ते आपणा टाइम पास करेंसें |लोग ते धिंग्ताने आण के बड़े सें |

[preetikhatri]

duniya ki koi bhi cheej jise samajik satar(social status)
na diya jaye vo pyaar to ho nahi sakti.
pyaar kisi b riste me ho skta hai.
i jst presented my point of view,
what others think is none of my business.
sabki apni soch hai sahi ya galat.
socially jo sahi h vo hi sahi kahlata hai.

[amankadian]

ek kitab main pada tha

Love has no relation, no word

1. wasie dunia main sabse bada rista inaasniyat ka hota hai .....
2. or ye Samaj to hamesha payar karne walo ke khilf rha hai ..............socially aaj tak kisi ne isko sahi kha hi nhi

:rock

[Malikpriya]

ek kitab main pada tha

Love has no relation, no word

1. wasie dunia main sabse bada rista inaasniyat ka hota hai .....
2. or ye Samaj to hamesha payar karne walo ke khilf rha hai ..............socially aaj tak kisi ne isko sahi kha hi nhi

:rock

Aman, who is she with u ?:cool:

[amankadian]

Aman, who is she with u ?:cool:My friend kyun kya hua

[Malikpriya]

My friend kyun kya hua

nothing just aise e pooch liya .....................she is so cute......:)

[mhundpuriamann]

Haryana ke gaon dehaat mein ek kahawatt hai:

"Love is like a lump of gold,
hard to find and harder to hold".

[ravinderjeet]

Haryana ke gaon dehaat mein ek kahawatt hai:

"Love is like a lump of gold,
hard to find and harder to hold".

हरयाणे के देहात में अंग्रेजी की कहावत कद तें बणण लागी र: |

[mhundpuriamann]

हरयाणे के देहात में अंग्रेजी की कहावत कद तें बणण लागी र: |

bhai saab main tho bachpann tai sundaa aayaa hoon !

badde buddhe kayaa karain !

(kitnee baar yaad diwanaa padaiga aap taee Haryana's first language is sanskritt
second german)

[Samarkadian]

bhai saab main tho bachpann tai sundaa aayaa hoon !

badde buddhe kayaa karain !

(kitnee baar yaad diwanaa padaiga aap taee Haryana's first language is sanskritt
second german)

मन्ने ते इब इ जाण पाटी स अक मै जर्मन लिखन बोलन लाग रा सु!! विकी लीक्स त भी खतरनाक खुलासा स मान भाई यो त ! माड़ा सा और प्रकाश गेर जितेंदर इस बात प त

[mhundpuriamann]

मन्ने ते इब इ जाण पाटी स अक मै जर्मन लिखन बोलन लाग रा सु

ek aur kahwatt hai:

DER AAYAD DURUST AAYAD kadyan saab!

[bls31]

Love as defined by some one her death bed

‘I don’t know what love is, but I can’t live without you even for a short time’ as she confessed, in her now faint and hardly audible voice the day prior to when the cruel hand of death snatched her from me.



An extract from my book bls31

[ravinderjeet]

Love as defined by some one her death bed

‘I don’t know what love is, but I can’t live without you even for a short time’ as she confessed, in her now faint and hardly audible voice the day prior to when the cruel hand of death snatched her from me.



An extract from my book bls31

जब दोनों की जिंदगियां को एक ही शरीर में जीया जाएँ |

[rana1]

kyo pyaaar vyaar ke chakkar mai time barbadd karnaaa...kaam woo karo jiske liyee duniyaa jaaat ko jaanti hai...jaise badmashi....ladai...murder..daaru pinaaa pherr duniyaa ko taang karnaa...agar hum pyaar ke chakkar mai paad gee to hamari to pechaan khatam ho jaagi:) m i rite miss khatri:)


Ma Ki Sun Sehrawat Sahab kasutaa likh Deyaaaaa......Eke Ek Word Deemak M Baith Gaya .......... Keetab Katub Likhaan Ka ji Nahi kerta Ke..............

[nehasinghaz]

love is an eternal feeling, it can be towards anybody and anything around you ................love for nature , love for animals, love for parents, love for siblings, love for you loved ones , love for humanity...........................and many many more. It can be felt and expressed by your action but mere word of love is meaningless. love inspires you , motivates you and makes your life colourful and full of satisfaction.

[singhvp]

प्यार एक एहसास है जो किसी चीज़ की भूख या चाहत के साथ पैदा होता है और उसके साथ ही मर भी जाता है i
भूखे आदमी को रोटी से बेहद प्यार होता है मगर ज्यों ही भूख मिट जाती है रोटी के प्रति प्यार ख़तम हो जाता है i रोटी को सूंघने को भी मन नहीं करेगा,खाने की तो बात अलग I शादी से पहले लड़के और लडकी का परस्पर आकर्षण या प्यार अपनी चरम सीमा पर होता है I जानम,जानू, सनम, प्रिय, दिल-रूबा, हनी कहकर एक दूसरे पर प्यार की बौछार की जाती है, साथ जीने मरने की झूठी कसमें खाई जाती हैं क्योंकि कोई भूख इसके पीछे काम कर रही होती है i परन्तु शादी के बाद धीरे धीरे खुमार ढलने लगता है और फिर एक अवस्था ऐसी आती है कि पति पत्नी में जरा जरा सी बातों पर तकरार और कुत्ते बिल्ली वाली लड़ाई शुरू हो जाती है i पत्नी हरामजादी बन जाती है और पति कुत्ता कमीना और ढेढ़ का बीज बन जाता है i लड़का जब तक कुंवारा है और माँ बाप को तनखाह देता है तो वो सपूत है , मगर शादी के कुछ साल बाद कपूत हो जाता है i दुनिया में थोड़े बहुत सपूत भी होंगे मगर शादी के बाद प्यार कम अवश्य हो जाता है i लड़के लडकी जब तक माँ बाप पर निर्भर करते हैं उन के दिल में उनके प्रति काफी प्यार होता है मगर ज्यों ही माँ बाप बूढ़े, विवश और अर्थहीन हो जाते हैं वे उनको बोझ लगने लगते हैं और उनका प्यार पलटी मार के अपने जीवन साथी और बच्चों के पास चला जाता है क्योंकि उनमे सुनहरे भविष्य की चमक नज़र आती है i सो यह इंसान की चाहत ही हो जो प्यार को जनम देती है i अगर एसा नहीं होता तो हमें उन्ही व्यक्तियों या चीज़ों से प्यार क्यों होता है जो दिखने में सुन्दर और सुडौल, यौवन से भरपूर, (लड़का या लडकी) खाने में स्वादिष्ट (खाना आदि), छूने में मुलायम, कोमल व् सूंघने में सुगन्धित ( जैसे गुलाब का फूल) होती हैं i इस सबके पीछे हमारी ज्ञानेन्द्रियों की छुपी हुई हवस ही काम कर रही है जो स्वार्थ के सोफ्टवेयर से संचालित हैं और ऑटो मोड में फिक्स हैं

[JSRana]

वी पी भाई साहब आप बिलकुल सही बात कह रहे हैं परन्तु ये चीजें तजुर्बा होने के बाद ही समझ मैं आती हैं |कहते हैं न की प्यार अँधा होता और मैं तो कहता हूँ की बहरा भी होता है | इस समय मन दीमाग पर चढ़ बैठता है
और सोचने समझने की शक्ति को क्षीण कर देता है |


फिर भी मेरा मानना है कि एक समय मैं ये जरूरी है ताकि रिश्तों की अहमियत बनी रहे नहीं तो
अव्यवस्था फ़ैल सकती है |

[rana1]

प्यार एक एहसास है जो किसी चीज़ की भूख या चाहत के साथ पैदा होता है और उसके साथ ही मर भी जाता है i
भूखे आदमी को रोटी से बेहद प्यार होता है मगर ज्यों ही भूख मिट जाती है रोटी के प्रति प्यार ख़तम हो जाता है i रोटी को सूंघने को भी मन नहीं करेगा,खाने की तो बात अलग I शादी से पहले लड़के और लडकी का परस्पर आकर्षण या प्यार अपनी चरम सीमा पर होता है I जानम,जानू, सनम, प्रिय, दिल-रूबा, हनी कहकर एक दूसरे पर प्यार की बौछार की जाती है, साथ जीने मरने की झूठी कसमें खाई जाती हैं क्योंकि कोई भूख इसके पीछे काम कर रही होती है i परन्तु शादी के बाद धीरे धीरे खुमार ढलने लगता है और फिर एक अवस्था ऐसी आती है कि पति पत्नी में जरा जरा सी बातों पर तकरार और कुत्ते बिल्ली वाली लड़ाई शुरू हो जाती है i पत्नी हरामजादी बन जाती है और पति कुत्ता कमीना और ढेढ़ का बीज बन जाता है i लड़का जब तक कुंवारा है और माँ बाप को तनखाह देता है तो वो सपूत है , मगर शादी के कुछ साल बाद कपूत हो जाता है i दुनिया में थोड़े बहुत सपूत भी होंगे मगर शादी के बाद प्यार कम अवश्य हो जाता है i लड़के लडकी जब तक माँ बाप पर निर्भर करते हैं उन के दिल में उनके प्रति काफी प्यार होता है मगर ज्यों ही माँ बाप बूढ़े, विवश और अर्थहीन हो जाते हैं वे उनको बोझ लगने लगते हैं और उनका प्यार पलटी मार के अपने जीवन साथी और बच्चों के पास चला जाता है क्योंकि उनमे सुनहरे भविष्य की चमक नज़र आती है i सो यह इंसान की चाहत ही हो जो प्यार को जनम देती है i अगर एसा नहीं होता तो हमें उन्ही व्यक्तियों या चीज़ों से प्यार क्यों होता है जो दिखने में सुन्दर और सुडौल, यौवन से भरपूर, (लड़का या लडकी) खाने में स्वादिष्ट (खाना आदि), छूने में मुलायम, कोमल व् सूंघने में सुगन्धित ( जैसे गुलाब का फूल) होती हैं i इस सबके पीछे हमारी ज्ञानेन्द्रियों की छुपी हुई हवस ही काम कर रही है जो स्वार्थ के सोफ्टवेयर से संचालित हैं और ऑटो मोड में फिक्स हैं

बहौत बढ़िया से बताया आपने ......................................

[cutejaatsandeep]

Ma Ki Sun Sehrawat Sahab kasutaa likh Deyaaaaa......Eke Ek Word Deemak M Baith Gaya .......... Keetab Katub Likhaan Ka ji Nahi kerta Ke..............
bhai dil tee batauu too leekhann ka ji too se time ni see.....maane to meree hisaab te thik leekhyaa seee..apne jaataa ke baskii see kee yoo pyaar vyaar karnaa...eek chori tee eek jaat bolyaa..i luv u chori....chori bolii ghaani bakwas na kar jutt khayogaa..jat bolyaa pherr tu ghussand ni khaayogii....soo kaam waa karo jiskee liyee aapp badnaam ho.....:)

[malikdeepak1]

..soo kaam waa karo jiskee liyee aapp badnaam ho.....:)

Badnaam hue to kya hua, naam to hua!

[nehasinghaz]

सिर्फ एहसास हैं ये, रूह से महसूस करो

प्यार को प्यार ही रहने दो कोई नाम ना दो

प्यार कोई बोल नहीं, प्यार आवाज नहीं

एक खामोशी हैं सुनती हैं कहा करती हैं

न ये बुझती है, न रुकती है, न ठहरी हैं कही

नूर की बूँद है, सदियों से बहा करती हैं

[cutejaatsandeep]

सिर्फ एहसास हैं ये, रूह से महसूस करो

प्यार को प्यार ही रहने दो कोई नाम ना दो

प्यार कोई बोल नहीं, प्यार आवाज नहीं

एक खामोशी हैं सुनती हैं कहा करती हैं

न ये बुझती है, न रुकती है, न ठहरी हैं कही

नूर की बूँद है, सदियों से बहा करती हैं
bhai koi meereee aasuaaa nee pooch dooo.......nehaa nee kitni badiyaa shayarii kii seee....yee to yaad karnaa padegaa...iss tee chori aaram see sentii ho jaagi;)

[nehasinghaz]

bhai koi meereee aasuaaa nee pooch dooo.......nehaa nee kitni badiyaa shayarii kii seee....yee to yaad karnaa padegaa...iss tee chori aaram see sentii ho jaagi;)
The comment made by u is sick.....................let me tell you Mr.Sandeep yeh meri shayari nahi hai .............yeh khamoshi movie ka song hai ....as i like it and agree with it so i just posted here..................

[urmiladuhan]

The comment made by u is sick.....................let me tell you Mr.Sandeep yeh meri shayari nahi hai .............yeh khamoshi movie ka song hai ....as i like it and agree with it so i just posted here..................

Nehajee - chho mae mat aao - aisae comments aam baat hae JL par - they are harmless humor!

[cutejaatsandeep]

mam u r ritee chorii ghaani choo mai aaaa giiii....u know mam kuch logo mai sense of humor naam ki cheez nahi hoti..;)

[urmiladuhan]

mam u r ritee chorii ghaani choo mai aaaa giiii....u know mam kuch logo mai sense of humor naam ki cheez nahi hoti..;)

Neha jee is a Special Educator by profession - I am sure she will understand various points of views.

[cutejaatsandeep]

mam thats her point of view apni sehat pee kee farkk paade ssee

[nehasinghaz]

mam u r ritee chorii ghaani choo mai aaaa giiii....u know mam kuch logo mai sense of humor naam ki cheez nahi hoti..;)

can you explain me the meaning of "sense of humor" Mr. sandeep ji

[cutejaatsandeep]

type it on google..thn u'll come to know about it ms neha ji

[nehasinghaz]

[QUOTE=cutejaatsandeep;281822]type it on google..thn u'll come to know about it ms neha ji[/

it varies from person to person...........may be what tickles you, irritate others but it does not mean that other one does not have sense of humor.

[cutejaatsandeep]

aareyy tayeee meree teee galti ho giii.....aaageee see isssi baat soochu bhi naaaaa,,,thik seee....now happppy

[nehasinghaz]

aareyy tayeee meree teee galti ho giii.....aaageee see isssi baat soochu bhi naaaaa,,,thik seee....now happppy

thank you Mr. Sandeep ji

[cutejaatsandeep]

u r welcomee ms neha ji......i just came to know tht u r a Special Educator.....m sure ur students must b havin a really hard time...hahahhhahhahahhahahahaha.....roz lath khaatee hongee.

[upendersingh]

Love between he and she is different from the love towards nature, kids or parents etc. A man and woman is supplement to each other, so love between these two has much more strong feelings. True love gives satisfaction if the couple succeeds in becoming life partners. He and she liked each other and they got each other as life partners, it gives satisfaction. The so called lovers who don't hesitate to kiss each other even on public places, know nothing about true love. Such people defame love and deserve to be punished.

[nehasinghaz]

u r welcomee ms neha ji......i just came to know tht u r a Special Educator.....m sure ur students must b havin a really hard time...hahahhhahhahahhahahahaha.....roz lath khaatee hongee.

special educator lath use nahi karte becoz they deal with spl. children................i m sure aapko tho special educator ka meaning bhi nahi pata hoga .......................now i suggest you to go to google search............

and plz concentrate on the topic of thread donot take it to some other direction

[urmiladuhan]

special educator lath use nahi karte becoz they deal with spl. children................i m sure aapko tho special educator ka meaning bhi nahi pata hoga .......................now i suggest you to go to google search............

and plz concentrate on the topic of thread donot take it to some other direction

neha jee, is this painting in your profile your own creation? if so, congratulations - it is very nice. I am a sort of painter too - oil and pencil sketching is what I do.

[urmiladuhan]

The so called lovers who don't hesitate to kiss each other even on public places, know nothing about true love. Such people defame love and deserve to be punished.

upinder jee - who are we to judge the feelings people have and the way they choose to express them. it is their wish to do like that and we, part of a progressive society/mindset must respect an individual's freedom of expression.

[Phogat2509]

neha & sandeep ji tharra smjotta hoga ho to thik ss na pher koi beecholiya dhundhna padega.
yr thm JL pr bhi tang kheechne lag rhe so ik dusre ki kuch to sarm kr lo.

[Phogat2509]

"Successful people are always looking for opportunities to help others.
Unsuccessful people are always asking, 'What's in it for me?'"

[ravinderpannu]

Wah bhai Uppu kasoota pyar hai
Iska Matlabd Pyar aadmi ko darkop bana deta hai?

bhai rake,,
pyar me aadmi darkop hi nahi, kutta, gadha or bera na k k bann jya sai,,,
o geet sa to dhyan hoga tere ''main tere pyar me kya kya na bana meena ,,,kabhi bana ........""

[ravinderpannu]

love experience can be divided into three partly-overlapping stage: lust, attraction, and attachment.

Lust is the initial passionate sexual desire that promotes mating. It stimulate the release of hormones such as testosterone and oestrogen. The effect is only last for weeks or months.

Attraction is romantic love stage. People at this stage will constantly release chemical, including dopamine, phenylethylamine (PEA), norepinephrine and serotonin. The effect of this chemicals flowing in bloodstream is similar to stress: increased heart reat, sweaty palms, heavy breathing and etc.

Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.


hahaha.. LYO ji.. kar diya PYAR ka post-martem... eb ni bujhega koye ak pyar k ho sai...
ar koi bujhe to keh dyo PYAR to HARMONE RELEASE honn ki ek PRIKIRYA hai..!!!

[ravinderpannu]

जब किसी स्त्री-पुरुष को एक-दूसरे से प्यार होता है तो यदि उन दोनों ने एक-दूसरे को मन-ही-मन अपना भावी जीवन साथी स्वीकार नहीं कर लिया तो फिर वो शीर्ष स्तर का प्यार नहीं है.

editor ki kalam se.......................pyar..!!!!

uppu bhai, ghani serious baat likh di ya to aapne

[amankadian]

bhai koi meereee aasuaaa nee pooch dooo.......nehaa nee kitni badiyaa shayarii kii seee....yee to yaad karnaa padegaa...iss tee chori aaram see sentii ho jaagi;) aaj kal ki chorriya ne ron dhon alle na acche lagte

[ravinderpannu]

Let's create one thread having the links for all threads on this topic and post the link at home page for ready reference:):):)

bhai Deepender,

Kyu suwada k math marann ki tyari me hai tu..!! es bahane JL pe kime ghatne to ghate hai..!!:rock

[ravinderpannu]

ek bae rakeshjee nae ya bhi kahee thee - something like - kaalae shir aalae ... My jaatu is not very good- but I think what it means is promiscusity! ha ha ha ha!!!
According to him, this is the only feeling men have!

Urmila ji,,
yu k souda ho sai..!! aap ne to botru (बोतड़ू )bandh diya..!!!

[ravinderpannu]

[QUOT.[/QUOTE

Preeti jee, are you really this girl in the photo????? :) :) :)

Urmila ji, are you really this girl in the photo????? :) :) :)

[ravinderpannu]

nothing just aise e pooch liya .....................she is so cute......:)

dat ja Priyaaaa........!!!! tham ja.

[preetikhatri]

bhai rake,,
pyar me aadmi darkop hi nahi, kutta, gadha or bera na k k bann jya sai,,,
o geet sa to dhyan hoga tere ''main tere pyar me kya kya na bana meena ,,,kabhi bana ........""

pannu ji aap kya kya bane ho???
:p :p :p

[preetikhatri]

yes urmilaji i m d same gal,
gurgaon sasural hai meri ,ho skta hai dekha ho kabhi dinner tym me.

[urmiladuhan]

Urmila ji, are you really this girl in the photo????? :) :) :)

yes, that is me. I asked Preetijee because the earlier photo was of a small girl in Preetijee's profile.

[urmiladuhan]

Urmila ji,,
yu k souda ho sai..!! aap ne to botru (बोतड़ू )bandh diya..!!!

poocho Rakesh jee sae - saab kuch un nae hee bandh deeya nu keh k!!!

[ravinderpannu]

pannu ji aap kya kya bane ho???
:p :p :p

Preeti ji,
Mera to seedha byah e ho gya,,, is pyar aale ''soude'' pehla koi experience ni...!!

[upendersingh]

upinder jee - who are we to judge the feelings people have and the way they choose to express them. it is their wish to do like that and we, part of a progressive society/mindset must respect an individual's freedom of expression.

If some people have the feelings of roaming naked then we have the right to ask them to clarify. Obscene behaviour on public places is a punishable crime. If it is their wish then they should do it behind the curtain. If they do so publically then it means they also lure others to do the same and that's what they do wrong. Don't play with mud publically, many people have put white clothes, that's what I meant.
Moreover, mostly such chirkuts don't want their sisters to be kissed publically by their boyfriends. If they would not like their sister to be kissed publically, then how can they do so with others' sisters? Same applies with the girls as well.

[urmiladuhan]

Moreover, mostly such chirkuts don't want their sisters to be kissed publically by their boyfriends. If they would not like their sister to be kissed publically, then how can they do so with others' sisters?

I agree. Such men are not men. They are opportunists of the lowliest type.

[urmiladuhan]

If some people have the feelings of roaming naked then we have the right to ask them to clarify. Obscene behaviour on public places is a punishable crime.
.

What is considered obscene by one may not be obscene to others. Why waste time in being judgemental and criticizing other people's way of expression - perhaps there is lot of free time with people or perhaps they have grown up in strict systems where they never were allowed to do what these kissing people are doing. I think people of progressive mindset - those who push the boundaries outwards - do so in all spheres of their life - for example how they carry out their work, how they deal with challenges, the type of risks they take etc etc. However, I do not support people who just want the sexual freedom without being of equally progressive outlook in other spheres of their life and are successful at it. Sexual freedom has to be earned too!

[urmiladuhan]

Obscene behaviour on public places is a punishable crime.

Is kissing in public places a punishable crime in India? If so, then one should not do.

[urmiladuhan]

Same applies with the girls as well.

How? You mean girls not wanting their brothers to kiss their girlfriends in public?

[singhvp]

preeti ji,
mera to seedha byah e ho gya,,, is pyar aale ''soude'' pehla koi experience ni...!!

भाई पन्नू, जाट्टां मैं ब्याह तैं पहल्यां प्यार करण का रिवाज़ कोन्या i ठीक होया आपका ब्याह सीधा ए होग्या i आजकल छोरे का ब्याह होणा मुश्किल सै, प्यार तो माणस कदे कर ल्यो, घणा मुश्कल काम कोन्या i:)

[upendersingh]

Is kissing in public places a punishable crime in India? If so, then one should not do.

Indian Penal Code (IPC)
Section 294. Obscene acts and songs
294. Obscene acts and songs.—Whoever, to the annoyance of others—
(a) does any obscene act in any public place, or
(b) sings, recites or utters any obscene song, ballad or words, in or near any public place,
shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three months, or with fine, or with both.]
CLASSIFICATION OF OFFENCE
Punishment—Imprisonment for 3 months, or fine, or both—Cognizable—Bailable—Triable by any Magistrate—Non-compoundable.

[amankadian]

How? You mean girls not wanting their brothers to kiss their girlfriends in public?

They want i think but its not allowed to kiss someone in public place in India.

So please don't try it anyone othewise you would be in Police house.

India Ladke che aapne aap kuch bhi kare. Ager ek ladke bhi che 10 girlfriend ho ager uski kisi ek girlfriend ka uske alwa koi or boyfriend ho to bolta hai ................Kisi ladki ho maine tunse itna payar karta hoon or tu ye sab kar rhi hai mere picche.

:rockye sach hai ladko ke bare main. Hum khud bhut freedom chate hai or man karta hai wife koi ghar se bhar na niklne de .

Hahaha .....................

[upendersingh]

How? You mean girls not wanting their brothers to kiss their girlfriends in public?

Off course. Generally as a boy doesn't like his sister to be kissed on public places or elsewhere, in same way a girl also wants that if her brother wants her to be in limit then he will also have to be in limit. More can be told by you as you can explain the female mind more than me.

[upendersingh]

What is considered obscene by one may not be obscene to others. Why waste time in being judgemental and criticizing other people's way of expression - perhaps there is lot of free time with people or perhaps they have grown up in strict systems where they never were allowed to do what these kissing people are doing. I think people of progressive mindset - those who push the boundaries outwards - do so in all spheres of their life - for example how they carry out their work, how they deal with challenges, the type of risks they take etc etc. However, I do not support people who just want the sexual freedom without being of equally progressive outlook in other spheres of their life and are successful at it. Sexual freedom has to be earned too!

I don't have any issue with such people. In fact if this whole world starts kissing each other on public places, even then I am not going to bother.
In my related post I just wrote that such people don't know what real love is and they defame love. If someone really loves his partner then he will not do such cheap behaviour with her openly as it may attract other people to comment upon her or react in even worse manner. True lovers are worried for each other.

[upendersingh]

Preeti ji,
Mera to seedha byah e ho gya,,, is pyar aale ''soude'' pehla koi experience ni...!!

भाई रविन्द्र, ब्याह करवाण मैं जो बीच मैं थे (बिचौलिए/रिश्तेदार वगैरह), कधे-कधे उनकी भी सुध ले लो हो अक ना...:rolleyes:...उनका भी ठाडा अहसान है भाई...घर बसवा राख्या है...हा...हा...हा...:o

[urmiladuhan]

More can be told by you as you can explain the female mind more than me.

I rather not comment as my upbringing/value system is different from a traditional/conservative upbringing.

[urmiladuhan]

In fact if this whole world starts kissing each other on public places, even then I am not going to bother.
.

ha ha ha ha !!! good one :)

[urmiladuhan]

Indian Penal Code (IPC)
Section 294. Obscene acts and songs
294. Obscene acts and songs.—Whoever, to the annoyance of others—
(a) does any obscene act in any public place, or
(b) sings, recites or utters any obscene song, ballad or words, in or near any public place,
shall be punished with imprisonment of either description for a term which may extend to three months, or with fine, or with both.]


CLASSIFICATION OF OFFENCE

Punishment—Imprisonment for 3 months, or fine, or both—Cognizable—Bailable—Triable by any Magistrate—Non-compoundable.


This does not mention kissing in public as an offence.

[singhvp]

This does not mention kissing in public as an offence.

It seems to be a printing mistake, Urmila Ji. IPC needs to be revised and reprinted.

[urmiladuhan]

IPC needs to be revised and reprinted.

I am against making public kissing an offence.

[upendersingh]

This does not mention kissing in public as an offence.


Q. Is kissing in public an offence in india????
A. Yes it is.
Link (http://sawaal.ibibo.com/law/kissing-public-offence-india-994771.html)


Another 'Must Read' Link (http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090120090750AAAmIyt)

[singhvp]

I am against making public kissing an offence.

Well, in principle I am also not against it but its acceptability in public places would always depend on how liberal a society is. Even in our metropolitan cities, it is still exercised as a taboo, let alone rural areas. In some European countries it is a common spectacle which, unfortunately, is not the case in India due to certain societal restrictions or potential blackmail by police. However, this is not to say that it doesn't exist in India at all. All damn things happen in India but under cover of darkness. Places like Nehru Park and Budha Jayanti Park in Delhi are the most popular sanctuaries for the love-birds which is a feast for eyes for the have-nots. Since we are born hypocrites, it becomes our moral duty to denounce such things on public forums. So I am a lso doing my duty by joining the band of hypocrites. In my heart of hearts I wish that these things were common. But the level of consciousness and the economic conditions deter a wider section of our society to rejoice such aesthetics. Acceptability of such things come with economic prosperity and spread of education. As majority of our population is grappling with economic problems, romance is not their first priority. In their collective consciousness, the acts like kissing or love making at public places will spoil their children who are going to be bread earners for them. Hence this detest for love and kissing etc. But in my assessment there would be hardly anyone who would not like to rejoice it - if opportunity comes their way.

Conclusion: Display of love at public place sounds cheap and indecent. It may cause an embarrassment to others and should, therefore, be avoided.

[Arvindc]

Q. Is kissing in public an offence in india????
A. Yes it is.
Link (http://sawaal.ibibo.com/law/kissing-public-offence-india-994771.html)


Another 'Must Read' Link (http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090120090750AAAmIyt)

Any constitutional law that dictates social behavior is against the natural law of evolution. It is quite unfortunate that India has these laws.
The social behavior can be better managed by local rules and guidelines on civic sense.

To all who are not happy with these laws:- Be a change agent, join IAC. :)

[singhvp]

Let me try to bring the thread back on track.

“What is Love”

Love is a sensation caused by some hormones, secretion of which is caused by the radio-magnetic rays emitted by some object or creature. The intensity of love depends on the colour, surface, mass and volume of that object/creature.

Example: The intensity of love for a young, fair-complexioned, slim and sleek girl will be more than that of an elderly auntie with a wider waist and bigger body mass.

[Arvindc]

Any constitutional law that dictates social behavior is against the natural law of evolution. It is quite unfortunate that India has these laws.
The social behavior can be better managed by local rules and guidelines on civic sense.

To all who are not happy with these laws:- Be a change agent, join IAC. :)

Apart from IAC, people can also consider the following invitation.



Subject: Inviting you to the Political Movement of India

As the world goes through economic and political change, more and more people are seeking answers for a political transformation in India. New parties created by common people and the overwhelming support for the movement against corruption are a reflection of this very thought.

India Leadership Network has chosen to support this new thought, the people and their initiatives through an action subgroup "Political Movement of India". We invite you to join it at http://linkd.in/PoliticalMovementofIndia to participate or support the movement.

India Leadership Network, currently 83,000+ member strong, will remain apolitical and will focus on core development issues from a larger perspective of India, world, society, life and leadership. Anything directly or indirectly related to politics, India's governance, corruption and related topics can only be discussed in the new subgroup, not in the main group.

......G.I.V.E..A..P.U.S.H....
For true impact, the movement requires high participation. If it is Ok with you, please forward this message to help generate more participation.

Regards
India Leadership Network

[urmiladuhan]

Q. Is kissing in public an offence in india????
A. Yes it is.
Link (http://sawaal.ibibo.com/law/kissing-public-offence-india-994771.html)


Another 'Must Read' Link (http://in.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090120090750AAAmIyt)

The material in the links cannot be produced in a court of law. Thay are useless blabberings.

[akshaymalik84]

Let me try to bring the thread back on track.

“What is Love”

Love is a sensation caused by some hormones, secretion of which is caused by the radio-magnetic rays emitted by some object or creature. The intensity of love depends on the colour, surface, mass and volume of that object/creature.

Example: The intensity of love for a young, fair-complexioned, slim and sleek girl will be more than that of an elderly auntie with a wider waist and bigger body mass.

VP ji you are so biased. We should see everyone with EK NAZAR.

[Prikshit]

What is Love? It is a song....Look for jim kerry in the video its hilarious...

What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
Oh, baby don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
Yeah
Oh, I don't know why you're not there
I give you my love, but you don't care
So what is right and what is wrong
Gimme a sign
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
Whoa whoa whoa, oooh oooh
Whoa whoa whoa, oooh oooh
Oh, I don't know, what can I do
What else can I say, it's up to you
I know we're one, just me and you
I can't go on
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
Whoa whoa whoa, oooh oooh
Whoa whoa whoa, oooh oooh
What is love, oooh, oooh, oooh
What is love, oooh, oooh, oooh
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
Don't hurt me
Don't hurt me
I want no other, no other lover
This is your life, our time
When we are together, I need you forever
Is it love
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more (oooh, oooh)
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more
What is love
Oh baby, don't hurt me
Don't hurt me no more (oooh, oooh)
What is love?

[upendersingh]

The material in the links cannot be produced in a court of law. Thay are useless blabberings.

Court orders Gere's arrest over 'obscene' kiss

26 Apr 2007.
An Indian court issued an arrest warrant for Richard Gere today, accusing the Hollywood actor of kissing Shilpa Shetty, the Bollywood actress, in a manner that "transgressed all limits of vulgarity".
Judge Dinesh Gupta issued warrants for the arrest of Gere and Shetty after a resident in the northwestern city of Jaipur filed a complaint charging that the public display of affection -which he called an "an obscene act" - offended local sensibilities, court officials said.

Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549769/Court-orders-Geres-arrest-over-obscene-kiss.html)

[singhvp]

VP ji you are so biased. We should see everyone with EK NAZAR.

Akshay, man is born selfish and so am I. What to do??? In principle you are right.

[urmiladuhan]

Court orders Gere's arrest over 'obscene' kiss

26 Apr 2007.
An Indian court issued an arrest warrant for Richard Gere today, accusing the Hollywood actor of kissing Shilpa Shetty, the Bollywood actress, in a manner that "transgressed all limits of vulgarity".
Judge Dinesh Gupta issued warrants for the arrest of Gere and Shetty after a resident in the northwestern city of Jaipur filed a complaint charging that the public display of affection -which he called an "an obscene act" - offended local sensibilities, court officials said.

Link (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1549769/Court-orders-Geres-arrest-over-obscene-kiss.html)

Richard Gere, a foreigner, come to India with good feelings - for some buddhist pupose. It is easy to target a foreigner, especially a well known figure, who does not want to create a controversy. He must be wondering what sort of kangaroo courts this country has after viewing some of the so called popular bollywood movies where all and everything is acceptable. I am convinced. he did not want to create a controversy and instead humbly apologised for his gesture. What sort of vulgar dress a saree is where most of the waist and belly of a woman is bare! - walking in public?

[urmiladuhan]

Richard Gere, a foreigner, come to India with good feelings - for some buddhist pupose. It is easy to target a foreigner, especially a well known figure, who does not want to create a controversy. He must be wondering what sort of kangaroo courts this country has after viewing some of the so called popular bollywood movies where all and everything is acceptable. I am convinced. he did not want to create a controversy and instead humbly apologised for his gesture. What sort of vulgar dress a saree is where most of the waist and belly of a woman is bare! - walking in public?

Indian society has lot of double stands especially in what they show of themselves in public and how they are in private. At least, American Society is more honest about who they are in public as well.

[kapdal]

Indian society has lot of double stands especially in what they show of themselves in public and how they are in private. At least, American Society is more honest about who they are in public as well.

I don't think an overwhelming majority of Americans do in public what they do in private. In fact, in most places in the world people don't do in public what they do in private. I am talking about the more intimate of private activities and not kissing.

There is a whole lot of history behind what people wear, whether they kiss in public or not, etc. etc. It is not that western people are genetically hardwired to be liberal, hence they are good and honest, and hence they kiss in public. The current liberalism in West has its roots in the growth of a bourgeioise class a few centuries ago that stressed on rationalism and acted for self-advancement, achieving it through subjugation & oppression of alien people on an unparalled scale. The double standards shown for own people versus other people by the West till just 50 years back may be unmatched in hypocrisy.

So it is a bit naive to get judgmental about the value systems of societies based on these things. People are capable of being hypocrites in all parts of the world.

[urmiladuhan]

[QUOTE=kapdal;282721]



In my experience, Americans are more upfront and honest about their personal life and in public life too- e.g., divorce rate is higher than 50% there - if things are not working that is not to be hidden - get a divorce. In India - marriages stay intact irrespective of the fact that the marriage has broken down for all practical purpose. - just one example.

I see majority of woman dress up decoratively at work place in India. American society is more honest about keeping things in perspective at work place i.e., it is for doing work not for showing off dresses etc. It is a cultural thing.

[singhvp]

[QUOTE=kapdal;282721]



In my experience, Americans are more upfront and honest about their personal life and in public life too- e.g., divorce rate is higher than 50% there - if things are not working that is not to be hidden - get a divorce. In India - marriages stay intact irrespective of the fact that the marriage has broken down for all practical purpose. - just one example.

I see majority of woman dress up decoratively at work place in India. American society is more honest about keeping things in perspective at work place i.e., it is for doing work not for showing off dresses etc. It is a cultural thing.

Everything that glitters is not gold. Hypocrisy is a universal phenomenon. Americans may be more extrovert and open minded but I doubt they do not hide anything about their feelings and bed-room behavior. As I have already explained earlier, economic prosperity makes way for liberalization of social values and customs. Kapil has so succinctly elaborated this by giving an example of the emergence of bourgeoisie.

[urmiladuhan]

Richard Gere, a foreigner, come to India with good feelings - for some buddhist pupose. It is easy to target a foreigner, especially a well known figure, who does not want to create a controversy. He must be wondering what sort of kangaroo courts this country has after viewing some of the so called popular bollywood movies where all and everything is acceptable. I am convinced. he did not want to create a controversy and instead humbly apologised for his gesture. What sort of vulgar dress a saree is where most of the waist and belly of a woman is bare! - walking in public?

There are different rules for foreigners in India. Why was Shilpa Shetty not made a party in the court? - because she is Indian.
Upender jee, I don't think an Indian has been punished for kissing in Public. Many Goan marriages/christian marriages involve kissing in public.

So, if you are Indian, the Richard Gere case cannot be used to prosecute an Indian.

[urmiladuhan]

There are different rules for foreigners in India. Why was Shilpa Shetty not made a party in the court? - because she is Indian.
Upender jee, I don't think an Indian has been punished for kissing in Public. Many Goan marriages/christian marriages involve kissing in public.

So, if you are Indian, the Richard Gere case cannot be used to prosecute an Indian.

Actually the Indian constitution and its laws have been put together largely using American, British and Australian (among other developed countries) constitution. It is supposed to be quite liberal for Indians.

[upendersingh]

There are different rules for foreigners in India. Why was Shilpa Shetty not made a party in the court? - because she is Indian.
Upender jee, I don't think an Indian has been punished for kissing in Public. Many Goan marriages/christian marriages involve kissing in public.

So, if you are Indian, the Richard Gere case cannot be used to prosecute an Indian.

No different rules for foreigners in India, but on contrary foreigners are dealt with leniency. If the couple is married and indulged in some obscene behaviour (like kissing etc) in public, then police can arrest them. In the court judge decides what should be the punishment (as IPC section 292-294 has provision for that) and married couple are acquitted mostly, but unmarried couple not. Even police misbehave with such couple. Read below:
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Operation Majnu : Crackdown on Couples

Lucknow, Dec. 21, 2005: Monday’s police attack on couples at a Meerut park wasn’t a drive against eve-teasing gone berserk.



A senior official of the Uttar Pradesh government said the thrashing of young men and women, including married couples, before TV cameras at Gandhi Bagh was meant to be just that: a crackdown on couples who the moral police felt were being amorous.


“The police had decided to act after receiving complaints from some traders that young couples kissed each other at the park,” the official said. “The complainants said it was embarrassing for older citizens too see the boys and girls in that state of ‘moral turpitude’.”
Link (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1051222/asp/nation/story_5630920.asp)
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If you still insist that kissing in public is ok, then I would say it's a big price for such cheap behaviour as first police may misbehave, then the accused couple may be taken to the police station, then they may have to arrange for bail and then such couple may be tried and punished as well. Why all this shame for just showing shamelessness?

[upendersingh]

In my experience, Americans are more upfront and honest about their personal life and in public life too- e.g., divorce rate is higher than 50% there - if things are not working that is not to be hidden - get a divorce. In India - marriages stay intact irrespective of the fact that the marriage has broken down for all practical purpose. - just one example.

I see majority of woman dress up decoratively at work place in India. American society is more honest about keeping things in perspective at work place i.e., it is for doing work not for showing off dresses etc. It is a cultural thing.

So, according to you higher rate of divorce in America means that they are more upfront and honest and lower divorce rate in India means Indians are hypocrite and dishonest. So, according to you mostly marriages are just being dragged in India and if the Indians show as upfrontness and honesty as Americans then here too divorce rate will be equal to the Americans. How can you say so? Have you conducted any survey? Such perception can not be expected from a educated person like you.

[pscil]

The main difference between the western thought and Indian thought has been that while the Indian thought went beyond the senses by separating the soul from the mind. The western thought equated the soul with the mind. Rene Descartes the great French philosopher and the founder of Cartesian coordinate Geometry says, “the mind (or soul), is a nonmaterial entity that lacks extension and motion, and does not follow the laws of nature”. He also states “I think therefore I am”. Making me the same as my mind. Contrast this with the Upanishads, which state, “You are that” (Tat Tvam Asi) meaning you are not this body or this mind but something beyond the senses and dimension of space and time and that something is termed the soul. As Kabir the great Indian poet says “all knowledge is the knowledge of the soul” or “atama gyan”. He further states “a human being without atama gyan is only a piece of flesh”

This separation of the mind and soul led the Indian thought towards the sublime and focused on the discovery of the internal mysteries of the soul. On the other hand the non separation of the mind and soul in the western thought led the western thought towards the external mysteries of nature since it got stuck at the level of senses and focused on enjoyment of the senses. Therefore while the western thought became expressive and expansionist and rational, the Indian thought became deeply introspective and intuitive, leaving it no energy for expression and expansion. The discovery of zero and decimal is not a rational thought process but one based on intuition. For the western thought the energy of expression, led to its expansion. It also led to the creation of beauty of the sensual world. A beauty that was ready to kill and enslave in order to express and expand. This was the main reason for colonialism and imperialism. God was to be found in the details and the passage to god was through nature.

When Milton or Dante, or any other great European poet, either ancient or modern wants to paint a picture of the infinite, he tries to soar outside, to make you feel the infinite through the senses. Take the poetry of poetry of Milton “No light but rather darkness visible” and contrast this with the Upanishads “When darkness was hidden in darkness”. We who live in the tropics can understand this thought of the Upanishads, when in the sudden outburst of monsoon, the horizon becomes dark and clouds become covered with more rolling black clouds. Another Upanishad poem describes the soul “There the sun cannot illuminate, nor the moon, nor the stars, nor the flash of lightning, what to speak of this mortal fire”. The attempt in the Indian thought is to go beyond the senses and beyond the dimensions of time and space towards an infinity that recognizes the ephermal and transient nature of the world of senses and wishes to grasp the eternal and the infinite in the finite.




Our ordinary view holds that the field of the finite is all that there is. But if the finite has no true independent existence, it cannot be all that is. We are in this way led to propose that the true ground of all being is the infinite, the unlimited; and that the infinite includes and contains the finite. In this view, the finite, in its transient nature, can only be understood as held suspended, as it were, beyond time and space, within the infinite.


The field of the finite is all that we can see, hear, touch, remember, and describe. This field is basically that which is manifest, or tangible. The essential quality of the infinite, by contrast, is its subtlety, its intangibility. This quality is conveyed in the word spirit, whose root meaning is "wind, or breath." This suggests an invisible but pervasive energy, to which the manifest world of the finite responds. This energy, or spirit, infuses all living beings, and without it any organism must fall apart into its constituent elements. That which is truly alive in the living being is this energy of spirit or soul, and this is never born and never dies." (From the last page of Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, by F. David Peat 1997)

Many streams make a mighty river and many rivers fall into a mighty ocean, similarly different people find different paths to realize the eternal truth, eternal truths are truths which are not subject to change over periods of time and space. There cannot be two truths since truth is indivisible but the journey to the truth can be different. This has been the essence of the Indian thought and its secular character. This is the reason why people from different faiths have found refuge in India from time immemorial. Indian thought has mainly relied on going from the particular to the general or inductive logic compared to the heavy reliance of the western thought which moves from the general to the particular or deductive logic.

[urmiladuhan]

So, according to you higher rate of divorce in America means that they are more upfront and honest and lower divorce rate in India means Indians are hypocrite and dishonest. So, according to you mostly marriages are just being dragged in India and if the Indians show as upfrontness and honesty as Americans then here too divorce rate will be equal to the Americans.

Well, what I meant was that in Indian society, people are forced to stay married for social reasons whether they are happy in that marriage or not. Divorce is still a stigma especially for the woman. In that way, this lifestyle is hipocracy. When I ask married Indian woman (who are complaining/criticizing in laws, husbands attidude etc in their family), why they don't get out of the marriage if they are so troubled, not a single woman says yes and instead cite social reasons for putting up.

Both Americans and Indians are humans - so that way under same social circumstances, the divorce rate should be the same, I think.

[Moar]

भड़क, महा-भड़क, करड़ी- भड़क!!


जो हर दुसरे तीसरे महीने आड़े धागों में किसी न किसी रूप में पूछी जाती है , फिर सदस्य एक दुसरे को जवाब दे कर कसुती भड़क पैदा करते हैं !

उस्ताद जी, पक्के शिकारी हो!

[upendersingh]

Well, what I meant was that in Indian society, people are forced to stay married for social reasons whether they are happy in that marriage or not. Divorce is still a stigma especially for the woman. In that way, this lifestyle is hipocracy.


Life is tough for one and all. The world is suffering with huge shortage of good people (those people who don't behave like what they don't want to be behaved are good). If someone thinks that divorce is the ultimate solution for a struggling marital life, then it is not true. In America, first marriage divorce rate is lower than the second and third marriage divorce rate. Hypocricy has nothing to do with high or low divorce rate. Divorce rate is the outcome of low moral values and poor culture. For your information, suicide rate in America is also higher than India. Now what would you say?


When I ask married Indian woman (who are complaining/criticizing in laws, husbands attidude etc in their family), why they don't get out of the marriage if they are so troubled, not a single woman says yes and instead cite social reasons for putting up.


If you ask any divorced remarried Indian women they may also say the same things. As I have said the world is suffering with huge shortage of good people so the main problem lies here. Mostly people want to gobble this whole world up. Mostly people want maximum sexual enjoyment, maximum luxury, but when they find their life partners too desiring for the same, then the problem arises. Mostly youths (mainly urban) these days have illicit relations before marriage and after marriage they find themselves unable to give up their such life style, then the problem arises. These are some of the main reasons for divorce rate, not hypocricy.


Both Americans and Indians are humans - so that way under same social circumstances, the divorce rate should be the same, I think.


Both Americans and Indians are humans, but their performance is not same. We have maintained such culture in India which interferes us when we deviate from the right path, but Americans lack it and as a result they suffer.
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Divore Rates In America

What are the current divorce rates in America? It is frequently reported that the divorce rate in America is 50%. This data is not accurately correct, however, it is reasonably close to an actual fact. The Americans for Divorce Reform estimates that probably, 40 or possibly even 50 percent of marriages will end in divorce if current trends continue.


Age at marriage for those who divorce in America According to DivorceRate.org




Under 20 years old
27.6%
11.7%


20 to 24 years old
36.6%
38.8%


25 to 29 years old
16.4%
22.3%


30 to 34 years old
8.5%
11.6%


35 to 39 years old
5.1%
6.5%



The following statement about the divorce rates in America reveals all the details about distribution. According to enrichment journal on the divorce rates in America, the divorce rate in America for first marriage is 41%; the divorce rate in America for second marriage is 60%; the divorce rate in America for third marriage is 73%. According to discovery channel, couples with children have a slightly lower rate of divorce than childless couples. Sociologists believe that childlessness is also a common cause of divorce. The absence of children leads to loneliness and weariness and even in the United States; at least 66 per cent of all divorced couples are childless. According to some experts, however, divorce rates tend to go down primarily because more couples live together without marrying. Other researchers have documented what they call “the divorce divide,” contending that divorce rates are indeed falling substantively among college-educated couples but not among less-affluent, less-educated couples.


The divorce rate in America is more than 50%, which means one in two couples will break up. Why it is so high. What is the real reason for them to divorce? I think we should look for the answer from the American belief. Freedom is one of the most important beliefs for America and nothing can replace it besides love. When they married, they don’t run for long love. If they think the love and family can’t offer their happiness and safety, they would choose to divorce. They wouldn’t think more about the family or the children because they take themselves as the center. That means they love freedom not stability. Their dreams are running for their own blessedness.

As the divorce rates in America rises, bad effects do happen on the children who are use to growing up with both parents. When both parents raise a child, the child is learning different things from each parent. The child is also developing its own personality by getting traits from each parent. When divorce leads one parent to leave the household, it has a huge effect on the children. Both parents need to continue to play an important role in the child’s life. When a parent leaves the household, this can make the child withdraw and feel unwanted. It can affect their schoolwork, social skills, and their activities. They may act out in different ways, to show you they are not happy with this change in their life. It may also affect the child when the child becomes an adult. When the child becomes a parent, they may think it is not important for their child to have both parents involved in their life.

Link (http://marriage101.org/divorce-rates-in-america/)

[Samarkadian]

My first and probably last ''Like''. Irrespective of the thread subject, this beautiful post by Parvir ji is an outstanding example that Jatland is not merely a Mauj Masti forum. It has the capacity to produce amazing thoughtful material. I will humbly request Parvir ji to keep writing a bit regular unlike once in blue moon.





The main difference between the western thought and Indian thought has been that while the Indian thought went beyond the senses by separating the soul from the mind. The western thought equated the soul with the mind. Rene Descartes the great French philosopher and the founder of Cartesian coordinate Geometry says, “the mind (or soul), is a nonmaterial entity that lacks extension and motion, and does not follow the laws of nature”. He also states “I think therefore I am”. Making me the same as my mind. Contrast this with the Upanishads, which state, “You are that” (Tat Tvam Asi) meaning you are not this body or this mind but something beyond the senses and dimension of space and time and that something is termed the soul. As Kabir the great Indian poet says “all knowledge is the knowledge of the soul” or “atama gyan”. He further states “a human being without atama gyan is only a piece of flesh”

This separation of the mind and soul led the Indian thought towards the sublime and focused on the discovery of the internal mysteries of the soul. On the other hand the non separation of the mind and soul in the western thought led the western thought towards the external mysteries of nature since it got stuck at the level of senses and focused on enjoyment of the senses. Therefore while the western thought became expressive and expansionist and rational, the Indian thought became deeply introspective and intuitive, leaving it no energy for expression and expansion. The discovery of zero and decimal is not a rational thought process but one based on intuition. For the western thought the energy of expression, led to its expansion. It also led to the creation of beauty of the sensual world. A beauty that was ready to kill and enslave in order to express and expand. This was the main reason for colonialism and imperialism. God was to be found in the details and the passage to god was through nature.

When Milton or Dante, or any other great European poet, either ancient or modern wants to paint a picture of the infinite, he tries to soar outside, to make you feel the infinite through the senses. Take the poetry of poetry of Milton “No light but rather darkness visible” and contrast this with the Upanishads “When darkness was hidden in darkness”. We who live in the tropics can understand this thought of the Upanishads, when in the sudden outburst of monsoon, the horizon becomes dark and clouds become covered with more rolling black clouds. Another Upanishad poem describes the soul “There the sun cannot illuminate, nor the moon, nor the stars, nor the flash of lightning, what to speak of this mortal fire”. The attempt in the Indian thought is to go beyond the senses and beyond the dimensions of time and space towards an infinity that recognizes the ephermal and transient nature of the world of senses and wishes to grasp the eternal and the infinite in the finite.




Our ordinary view holds that the field of the finite is all that there is. But if the finite has no true independent existence, it cannot be all that is. We are in this way led to propose that the true ground of all being is the infinite, the unlimited; and that the infinite includes and contains the finite. In this view, the finite, in its transient nature, can only be understood as held suspended, as it were, beyond time and space, within the infinite.


The field of the finite is all that we can see, hear, touch, remember, and describe. This field is basically that which is manifest, or tangible. The essential quality of the infinite, by contrast, is its subtlety, its intangibility. This quality is conveyed in the word spirit, whose root meaning is "wind, or breath." This suggests an invisible but pervasive energy, to which the manifest world of the finite responds. This energy, or spirit, infuses all living beings, and without it any organism must fall apart into its constituent elements. That which is truly alive in the living being is this energy of spirit or soul, and this is never born and never dies." (From the last page of Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, by F. David Peat 1997)

Many streams make a mighty river and many rivers fall into a mighty ocean, similarly different people find different paths to realize the eternal truth, eternal truths are truths which are not subject to change over periods of time and space. There cannot be two truths since truth is indivisible but the journey to the truth can be different. This has been the essence of the Indian thought and its secular character. This is the reason why people from different faiths have found refuge in India from time immemorial. Indian thought has mainly relied on going from the particular to the general or inductive logic compared to the heavy reliance of the western thought which moves from the general to the particular or deductive logic.

[singhvp]

The main difference between the western thought and Indian thought has been that while the Indian thought went beyond the senses by separating the soul from the mind. The western thought equated the soul with the mind. Rene Descartes the great French philosopher and the founder of Cartesian coordinate Geometry says, “the mind (or soul), is a nonmaterial entity that lacks extension and motion, and does not follow the laws of nature”.

This separation of the mind and soul led the Indian thought towards the sublime and focused on the discovery of the internal mysteries of the soul.

When Milton or Dante, or any other great European poet, either ancient or modern wants to paint a picture of the infinite, he tries to soar outside, to make you feel the infinite through the senses.




Our ordinary view holds that the field of the finite is all that there is. But if the finite has no true independent existence, it cannot be all that is. We are in this way led to propose that the true ground of all being is the infinite, the unlimited; and that the infinite includes and contains the finite. In this view, the finite, in its transient nature, can only be understood as held suspended, as it were, beyond time and space, within the infinite.


The field of the finite is all that we can see, hear, touch, remember, and describe. This field is basically that which is manifest, or tangible. The essential quality of the infinite, by contrast, is its subtlety, its intangibility. This quality is conveyed in the word spirit, whose root meaning is "wind, or breath." This suggests an invisible but pervasive energy, to which the manifest world of the finite responds. This energy, or spirit, infuses all living beings, and without it any organism must fall apart into its constituent elements. That which is truly alive in the living being is this energy of spirit or soul, and this is never born and never dies." (From the last page of Infinite Potential: The Life and Times of David Bohm, by F. David Peat 1997)



Though a beautifully written philosophical discourse, the core question of “what is love” seems to be reeling under the heavy load of spiritualism. If critically examined, following questions remain unanswered.

What is the definition of love, its origin, forms and intensity?
Is it a commandment of some ‘non-material entity’ referred to as soul by Descartes?
Does the love between young hetero-sexual couples have something to do with the ‘eternal soul’ ‘sublimation’ or ‘internal mysteries of the soul’?

In my opinion, love between young couples emanates more from physical attraction and ex factors viz. social status, financial position and educational level etc. rather than any divine commandment. The main and highly calculated objective of this love is to extract sensuous enjoyment and not to achieve sublimation through separation of mind from soul . The mysticism as found in our ancient books was a handiwork of the priests (Brahmins) crafted on the behest of contemporary rulers to obfuscate the real issues which might have led to social conflict and dethronement of dynasties. So, it was an effort to divert man’s attention from the real world to the realm of anti-trust, dogmas and superstition with a clear intention to dilute the militant fervor of the deprived section of society. I find Dante, Milton and some more European poets and philosophers more pragmatic in their approach towards making you feel the infinite through the senses and not through mysticism. We cannot be sure about what we are not able to feel, sense or see. Nature is a greatest mystery and so many secrets are yet to be unraveled pending which it would be un-scientific and illogical to assume the unimaginable and unseen things as divine truths.

[cutejaatsandeep]

i dont believe in luv n in luv marriages....yee luv ki baatein sirf books mai hi achi lagti hai...aajkal harr insaan doosre se kissi na kissi matlab se baat karta hai....dis applies for both male n female...male female se eek hi cheez chahta hai...waise hi females male ko eek atm card ki tarah use karti hai.

[urmiladuhan]

For your information, suicide rate in America is also higher than India. Now what would you say?


]

Poorer record keeping in the Indian System - could be a factor.

[mandeep333]

Love is complete surrender. It is selfless and flawless. Therefore it is well said God is Love & Love is God. It has no beginning and no ending. Felling in love with a person most of the times gradually turns into selfishness and expectations. These are necessarily outside the periphery of Love. So let us not confuse love with physical attractions which are no more than voluptuousness. Sycophancy has no place in the realm of Love. As I said before LOVE is TOTAL Surrender!
A friend's love is one of the few elements that both provides and returns something of real and overriding benefit. That is true with the other actions we have known as necessary in finding meaning in our lives as well.

[pscil]

Dear Samar

Always nice to receive your encouragement just keeps me going. Just been very busy lately. Please leep in touch and thanks for your birthday wishes. God bless you. Regards Parvir Singh

[urmiladuhan]

.aajkal harr insaan doosre se kissi na kissi matlab se baat karta hai....dis applies for both male n female...male female se eek hi cheez chahta hai...waise hi females male ko eek atm card ki tarah use karti hai.

If true, isn't that horrible?
I can only talk about myself, I am a genuine person and that is why I sort of stand out where ever I am and I love that!

[urmiladuhan]

[B]A friend's love is one of the few elements that both provides and returns something of real and overriding benefit.

So true! A good friend is a blessing indeed - a precious gift. Friends are people whom we choose ourselves, unlike relatives.

[urmiladuhan]

Operation Majnu : Crackdown on Couples

Lucknow, Dec. 21, 2005: Monday’s police attack on couples at a Meerut park wasn’t a drive against eve-teasing gone berserk.



A senior official of the Uttar Pradesh government said the thrashing of young men and women, including married couples, before TV cameras at Gandhi Bagh was meant to be just that: a crackdown on couples who the moral police felt were being amorous.

[LEFT]“The police had decided to act after receiving complaints from some traders that young couples kissed each other at the park,” the official said. “The complainants said it was embarrassing for older citizens too see the boys and girls in that state of ‘moral turpitude’.”
Link (http://www.telegraphindia.com/1051222/asp/nation/story_5630920.asp)
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The kissing couples should have stood up for themselves - gone to the court, if that is where the matter were to get decided. It requires courage, which many don't have.

[dahiyarocks]

can some one tell me the abstract of all the above points????????:rolleyes:

[singhvp]

can some one tell me the abstract of all the above points????????:rolleyes:

Abstract is still awaited.

[dahiyarocks]

Abstract is still awaited.

yr 162 comments mein ka bh te kuch abstract hoga

[preetikhatri]

bhai sumit
abstract itself means hidden
so u have yrself to find out d result.
hahaha
well like every discussion dere r nuthing meaningfull.
if u see d frst comment on any post,u didnt find anything relevent except a few comments.
so keep enjoying

[dahiyarocks]

bhai sumit
abstract itself means hidden
so u have yrself to find out d result.
hahaha
well like every discussion dere r nuthing meaningfull.
if u see d frst comment on any post,u didnt find anything relevent except a few comments.
so keep enjoying

pher kyu hadde dhuma tha rakhya se bebe............

band karo yo topic

[preetikhatri]

bebe nae to band kar diya
ibb sab bawala ki tariya mande rahve tae k kare
bhai.
kuch superhero:p ghanne ae kudne laag :D re hai
:D :D :D

[dahiyarocks]

bebe nae to band kar diya
ibb sab bawala ki tariya mande rahve tae k kare
bhai.
kuch superhero:p ghanne ae kudne laag :D re hai
:D :D :D

hadde te admin bhi koni jo kime kar sake

[deshi-jat]

फेर तै जमा सारे पोश ज्यांगे :rock:rock:rock यो सूआ भैंस नै पोशाण ताहि लगाया करै.


In chemical ke sue milte ho to sabke la de bhai
Uppu bhai je got milge fer?
un ne savikar kar liya ar samaj ne nakar diya fer?
samaj ne savikar kar liya ar biyah ke 6 mahine pache wo bubula foot gya fer?
Ar marre batte svikar ke liv in mein rahe ar 2 saal pache bera pate mhari to compatibility koni fer ?


love experience can be divided into three partly-overlapping stage: lust, attraction, and attachment.
Lust is the initial passionate sexual desire that promotes mating. It stimulate the release of hormones such as testosterone and oestrogen. The effect is only last for weeks or months.
Attraction is romantic love stage. People at this stage will constantly release chemical, including dopamine, phenylethylamine (PEA), norepinephrine and serotonin. The effect of this chemicals flowing in bloodstream is similar to stress: increased heart reat, sweaty palms, heavy breathing and etc.
Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.

[urmiladuhan]

Unlike lust and attraction stage, attachment stagement stage is accounted for long term relationship. Evidence suggested that monogamy and trust are related with oxytocin and vasopressin. This is the stage where mature love is.

Before begining a courtship, check these levels in blood. After courtship, if the levels have increased it may signify the seriousness of a person for long term committment. Aap nae to scientific method bata deeya whether the person is in love or not!!!

[rajneeshantil]

tanau tanau kar bhai rakesh. ??? mark me ke ho hai. mere bhi OHT over head transmission hua. sir ke upar te kud gai sari baat. esp. her wife ali baat

[rajneeshantil]

sahi kaha pannu saheb, love is such gadget which can transform a nice human being into a garbage. a friend of mine surely a JAT fell in love. kutto ki tarah ladki to chase karta tha. tiger ki tarah use dekhta tha (concentration) jiraf ki tarah uski neck lambi ho gai ladki ki wall ke upr se jhakte jhakte. eyes tolaa si ho gi. shakal te smackiya lagan laga. kade kade uski yaad me chatta pe jake roya karta. shivling pe apna ek katori khun chadaya ak wa manne mil ja. khar last mein unki shaadi ho gi. wo aaj army mein captain hai. i now raise a strong doubt about the selection of army personal. aise ladki ke liye rone wale desh ki kya sewa karenge. koa army selection ala dekhe te kuch kario bhai. esse deshbhakt army mein ni jane chaiye.

[urmiladuhan]

sahi kaha pannu saheb, love is such gadget which can transform a nice human being into a garbage. a friend of mine surely a JAT fell in love. kutto ki tarah ladki to chase karta tha. tiger ki tarah use dekhta tha (concentration) jiraf ki tarah uski neck lambi ho gai ladki ki wall ke upr se jhakte jhakte. eyes tolaa si ho gi. shakal te smackiya lagan laga. kade kade uski yaad me chatta pe jake roya karta. shivling pe apna ek katori khun chadaya ak wa manne mil ja. khar last mein unki shaadi ho gi. wo aaj army mein captain hai. i now raise a strong doubt about the selection of army personal. aise ladki ke liye rone wale desh ki kya sewa karenge. koa army selection ala dekhe te kuch kario bhai. esse deshbhakt army mein ni jane chaiye.

In Army culture, chivalry and respect towards women is encouraged and appreciated.

[Arvindc]

Regarding the Army culture....Oh!!

Beware, all charming ladies, there is a difference between encouragement, appreciation and "practice".

[urmiladuhan]

bhai sumit
abstract itself means hidden
so u have yrself to find out d result.
hahaha
well like every discussion dere r nuthing meaningfull.
if u see d frst comment on any post,u didnt find anything relevent except a few comments.
so keep enjoying

Very nice photo!

[dahiyarocks]

Very nice photo!

e mein photu kit se??????

[urmiladuhan]

e mein photu kit se??????

I can see it (Preeti's photo). You can't? Maybe you can see it on her profile page.

[urmiladuhan]

Regarding the Army culture....Oh!!

Beware, all charming ladies, there is a difference between encouragement, appreciation and "practice".

I am taking an overall sort of view. There may be deviations, of course.

[dahiyarocks]

I can see it (Preeti's photo). You can't? Maybe you can see it on her profile page.

ache kaam kar ri so........

photu ka comment hadde kham kha mein chep diya......

visitor msg kar dete

[urmiladuhan]

ache kaam kar ri so........

photu ka comment hadde kham kha mein chep diya......

visitor msg kar dete

It is a positive comment - what's wrong with sharing with everybody?

[urmiladuhan]

It is a positive comment - what's wrong with sharing with everybody?

O.K I have to go now - work in the office is waiting for me. See you all later!

[dahiyarocks]

It is a positive comment - what's wrong with sharing with everybody?


galat te kime na se.........per nu se ke hadde ji tai comment kara wo pade ya na pade..........

visitor msg bhi sab ne dikhya kare se..........ar ude kam te kam g tai comment kara se wo te pad lega

[urmiladuhan]

galat te kime na se.........per nu se ke hadde ji tai comment kara wo pade ya na pade..........

visitor msg bhi sab ne dikhya kare se..........ar ude kam te kam g tai comment kara se wo te pad lega

You are right.

[rajneeshantil]

Great urmila ji, either make a choice or love the choice made for you.

[Moar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tixIb21MO5U

[rajneeshantil]

Love is a game, played by two idiots.

[urmiladuhan]

Love is a game, played by two idiots.

Are you speaking from personal experience?

[vicky84]

Love is a game, played by two idiots.

Vichar prakat karan ka matlab nyu na sai ke kimme ho likh dyo..

[rajneeshantil]

Are you speaking from personal experience?

no Ma'm, i am saying it on the basis of other's experience. some experience can be gained from observing other's misery.

[Fateh]

Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty or selfish or rude, love doesnot demand its own way. It is not irritable or touchy. It doesnot hold grudges and will hardly notice when other do it wrong, it is never glade about injustice but rejoices when ever truth wins out. If you love some one you will be loyal to him, no matter what the cost.You will always believe in him, always expect the best of him and always stand your ground in defending him. All the special gifts of God will some day come to an end but love goes on forever.love recognises no barriars of society, legal, economical, political, area, or recognises no colour/beauty, religion/caste, small/big, rich/poor, strong/weak, healthy/unhealthy, male/female/age, profit/loss, etc.

[urmiladuhan]

Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty or selfish or rude, love doesnot demand its own way. It is not irritable or touchy. It doesnot hold grudges and will hardly notice when other do it wrong, it is never glade about injustice but rejoices when ever truth wins out. If you love some one you will be loyal to him, no matter what the cost.You will always believe in him, always expect the best of him and always stand your ground in defending him. All the special gifts of God will some day come to an end but love goes on forever.love recognises no barriars of society, legal, economical, political, area, or recognises no colour/beauty, religion/caste, small/big, rich/poor, strong/weak, healthy/unhealthy, male/female/age, profit/loss, etc.

oh my god! reading it brought tears to my eyes. thank you :)

[Fateh]

oh my god! reading it brought tears to my eyes. thank you :)
Urmilaji, thanks , regards

[riyaa]

Love is a Good Time, Its depends on you, how you live it...happily or sadly..and at the end what we get becomes our opinion about Love....

Conclusion : Love is topic which has no End...yeah if you guys are sharing your bad n good experiences of being in love that is different, and please proceed, but discussing love..will take you no where..

[sweetykaur]

Nice one like the way its rhyming