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bls31
October 13th, 2011, 09:43 AM
What one would like to live with :

Corruption in system but freedom of speech and action or corruption free system under a Dictator controlling all facets of one's life

bls31

vicky84
October 13th, 2011, 09:47 AM
What one would like to live with :

Corruption in system but freedom of speech and action or corruption free system under a Dictator controlling all facets of one;s life

bls31

Dictatorship can be turned into absolute corruption :)

More concentrated power (Centralised Power) can cause serious corruption.

Example: IAS, IPS etc. The decentralisation of power is must in order to curb the corruption. In India we need more reforms in public sector. Without it, we cannot get rid of corruption.

vicky84
October 13th, 2011, 10:07 AM
What one would like to live with :

Corruption in system but freedom of speech and action or corruption free system under a Dictator controlling all facets of one's life

bls31

And please do not associate freedom of speech,action, democracy with corruption! I think it has been discussed earlier in one of the thread.

Prikshit
October 13th, 2011, 10:23 AM
I think more or less we are observing both under the rule of present government.

Centralization of power may go both way, it may come out to be good or may become worse than the present situation.

The need of the hour is to find out venerated rational people who can make things happen, who can act as Ombudsman to keep a check.


The very idea to privatization is good upto a level in its approach because people are accountable for the work.
If we can inculcate this in Government sectors things will get much much better.

Every individual knows the present situation of law and order. The people in power have paralysed the system.
Which has to be look into to bring in major reforms required.

A must is that every individual should realize their responsibility and act accordingly.
Blaming others won't be of much help.

Fateh
October 13th, 2011, 12:13 PM
We have all powers cocentrated in sonia you may call her director, similarly party heads are most powerful in other political parties. concentration of powers, etc donot help in cotrolling corruption., Attitude of people has to change through proper spiritual & morale education, rule of law has to be established, political reforms, service reforms including corruption free enrolment, no reservation for anybody in jobs, allotment of quottas/work etc, Religion/caste/area has to be kept away from all official matters, media, judiciary, executive and legislative must be independent in real sense, relook on our constitution and judicial system, various acts & rules and the present clerical control of executive, is must. Nationalism has to be developed, national interest has to be suprime, social, ecconomical and physical security has to be assured to all, by the govt, concertration of wealth in few hands has to be stopped, any dealing with other nations by any individual/organisation/state has to be stopped, all such dealings has to be through the central govt, no money transfer to other country/bank out side, income tax laws need immediate change. For today only above rest lateron, regards

thukrela
October 13th, 2011, 09:37 PM
i would prefer military dictatorship over democracy

Fateh
October 14th, 2011, 07:27 AM
​Brother, Defence personnel also come from the same greedy and corrupt society, secondly we are ruled by dictetors only, there is no democracy in our country

bls31
October 16th, 2011, 01:36 PM
The ethos of Indian military is to remain an instrument of the government for the safety and security of the country.
As a retired army-man, I can say , with some conviction, that it would be a sad day for both the Country, it's People and the Military itself , if comes to pass.

See what happened to Pakistan, having burn it's finger more than once the military, NOW, is reluctant to take over once again. And what about the Jasmin wave, currently, over the middle east. BLS31

ravinderpannu
October 16th, 2011, 02:12 PM
i would prefer military dictatorship over democracy
Thukrele,, tu hamesha e ek line k answer deve hai (u prefer single line answers),, Mereyaar kime sahara b laa de is line k, ak kyu prefer kare hai (frnd, pls explain also y u prefer militry dictatorship)//

As we have seen numerous examples of MILITARY RAJ in many countries and have also seen there degredation in terms of country's health or wealth. Africa is full of such examples,, y going far check our dear ''PAKISTAN'' and MYANMAR,, look at their conditions. And if u look at the Globe and the countries which young people prefer to go are all democracies, so it simply indicates that there is no problem with democracy only if the same rule is for all. Justice should not be denied and should not differentiate rich ,poor,colour,caste etc etc which is happening in India.

thukrela
October 16th, 2011, 11:49 PM
रविन्द्र जी

सबसे पहले तोह में आपसे ये अनुरोध करना चाहूँगा की कृपया हरयाणवी का इंग्लिश में अनुवाद कर मुझे शर्मिन्दा ना करें
मै हरयाणवी समजने में शक्षम हूँ, बस कभी कभार मुझे दिक्कत आती है


अब मै अपनी कही बात को ज़रा स्पष्ट कर दु


सबसे पहले तोह मै दो तथ्य सबके सामने रखना चाहूंगा, उसपर हम आगे चर्चा करेंगे
1. भ्रस्टाचार, या कहे की अधर्म का कभी भी पुर्णतः विनाश नहीं हो सकता, ये किसी ना किसी स्वरुप मे हमेशा जिंदा रहता है
2.अंग्रेजी की कहावत है power brings corruption


मै Military Dictatorship की वकालत क्यों करता हूँ :
1, ताकत उसी के साथ अच्छी लगती है जो उसे सँभालने की शमता रखता है. भारत सांप्रदायिक, संस्कृतिक व धार्मिक आर्थो मे अन्य सभी देशो से बोहत भिन्न है अर्थात इसकी तुलना किसी और देश ने नहीं की जा सकती है.
आजादी के बाद भी भारत मे कुछ नहीं बदला, धर्म, मान्यताए,आदि. परन्तु एक चीज़ बदल गयी, जातिवाद! जो भारत की अर्थ व्यवस्ता की रीड थी, तोड़ दी गई, बिना किसी गहन विचार के की नयी अर्थव्यवस्था कैसी होगी और कैसे चलेगी. जंगले का राजा भेड़ को बना दिया गया, परीनाम्वर्ष आज भारत की बत्तर स्तिथि हो चुकी है. [स्मरण रखे की आजादी के बाद अमीर और अमीर होते चले गए और गरीब आदमी और गर्त मे उतरता गया]


2. मै प्रकर्ति से सीखना पसंद करता हूं, मैंने ये सीखा है की ताकतवर हमेशा कमज़ोर को दबाता है, सत्ता सेना के हाथ मै हो या आम आदमी के,कुछ फरक नहीं पड़ता, ये तोह होना ही है.
मेरे पिता श्री police officer है और इसके उद्धरण मे आयेदिन देखता रहता हूं.


3. लट्ठ के आगे भूत भी भागता है, जब तक खोफ ना हो, नीयम कायदे कोई नहीं मानता


4. हिन्दुस्तानियों को मैंने पढ़ा है, उनमे आत्मसम्मान जैसी कोई चीज नहीं[कुछ लडाका कौमो को छोड़ दिया जाये तोह] हर बार Olympics मे जाते है और मुह काला करा के आते हैं.
विदेशी मजाक बनाते है हमारा! कहते है ''ये हुन्दुस्तानी वैसे तोह भीम और अर्जुन की बातें करते हैं और एक मेडल तोह निकलता नहीं''.
पाक और चीन दोनों तरफ से कश्मीर मै घुसे बैठे हैं और हमें कोई शर्म नही.आतंकवादी देश मै घुस हमें कुत्तो की मौत मारते है हमें कोई शर्म नहीं.


5. जब भी देश मे किसी किसान के आत्महत्या करने की खबर आती है या बोडर पर कोई शहीद होता है तोह मेरी छाती पर साप लोट जाते हैं
आगे भी अगर जंग छिड़ी, तोह फिर हम ही मरेंगे, बनिए बामनो का कुछ नही जाता, वे अगर आज हमें सलाम करते है तोह केवल हमारे डर से
कल को अगर जंग हर गए, तोह चीन और पाकीयो को भी नमन कर लेंगे, मुझे मेरे जाटो की चिंता है

drkarminder
October 17th, 2011, 12:44 AM
.....Corruption is nature's way of restoring our faith in democracy.....