does discussion helps us in any ways??????

[dahiyarocks]

here i hav seen all kinda topics which r discussed but wat i wanna kno is tat does it helps us in any way or v r just trying to impress other persona by giving our views....


do v apply gud points in our life or r de only bol vachans????????

[Prikshit]

It surely helps if it is constructive. Some people just post or discuss honest others don't.
Many a times it is just to increase the post count or you can say showing the presence.


Sensible things coming out of discussions is you get different ideas, get to know different ways to keep your views, how to become a good listener, it really enhances the knowledge.
It expands the sphere of ones thinking, so for sure discussion are very vital if taken serious and discussed likewise.

At times they happen to be like more "BOL vachans" but if one out of all participants gains out of it than it is more than worth discussing.

Please correct me If said something irrelavant.

[dahiyarocks]

but if v r discussing sumthing den v shud conclude it.........

wat is the use if v dont conclude tat topic.........?????


n while concluding v shud list out all points for or againt tat topic so tat if a new user reads tat he is able to understand tat thing........

some posts hav more than 300 comments but i dont think everyone is able to follow wateva is said in earlier posts.........

even if u start reading it,its time consuming n may be reader can lose interest in tat topic......n if it happens den v r losing sumone's opinion---doesn't matter how vague his point could be nd in my opinion its nt gud for ny healthy discussion

n wat to do of bol vachans?????

i had many discussions on fb on many topic but wat i found was tat most of dem wer bol vachans......kehte kuch hai or real life mein karte kuch or hai.......

how does it helps us??????

[urmiladuhan]

......kehte kuch hai or real life mein karte kuch or hai....

It is eay to identify lies/fakeness in the discussions, as you yourself have figured it out too. There are still some people who write truthfully and write from their own experience - that is what makes the discussions worth reading.


p.s: Others may have different experiences as you can see in the replies of this thread.

[dahiyarocks]

There are still some people who write truthfully and write from their own experience


speaking is an art......some are good at it.....some or nt........

those hu are gud can make u feel like de r genuine n vice verse

n its not possible for everyone to figure out wats gud or wats bad...........

for ex: if a child is in company of some gamblers n will c dem making money,he will be tempted to gamble........
which is wrong.........

discussions are nt for me or u only...........many people read them n tats wat de r for............n some can get a wrong idea by these bol vachans...........

which should nt be outcome of a discussion

[Prikshit]

but if v r discussing sumthing den v shud conclude it.........

wat is the use if v dont conclude tat topic.........?????


n while concluding v shud list out all points for or againt tat topic so tat if a new user reads tat he is able to understand tat thing........

some posts hav more than 300 comments but i dont think everyone is able to follow wateva is said in earlier posts.........

even if u start reading it,its time consuming n may be reader can lose interest in tat topic......n if it happens den v r losing sumone's opinion---doesn't matter how vague his point could be nd in my opinion its nt gud for ny healthy discussion

n wat to do of bol vachans?????

i had many discussions on fb on many topic but wat i found was tat most of dem wer bol vachans......kehte kuch hai or real life mein karte kuch or hai.......

how does it helps us??????

See conclusion you can also make and or you can seek it by quoting it in a simple post that please let me know the conlcusion.

[saurabhjaglan]

Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है |

[urmiladuhan]

Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है |

By discussing, the less knowledgeable person may learn something from the more knowledgeable. No waste.

[dahiyarocks]

Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है |

iska matlb ki agar koe jyada samajhdar aadmi hai wo kam samajhdar ke sath bat hi na kre....kyoki usse kuch sikhne ko toh millega hi nhi

m i rite?????/

[dahiyarocks]

See conclusion you can also make and or you can seek it by quoting it in a simple post that please let me know the conlcusion.

in my post abt reluctance to leave north india, the conclussion is pretty much there....u can c it............from a vast topic it has been reduced to a few points....just by discussion

[saurabhjaglan]

इसके लिए एक समझदार इंसान का चुनाव किया जाये |अपनी शक्ति और ऊर्जा का साद्य्प्योग करके गुरु से ही वादविवाद किया जाये तो अच्छा रहता है |
अपनी ऊर्जा को हर किसी से साथ वाद विवाद मैं उलझा कर नष्ट नहीं करना चाहिए |

[dahiyarocks]

इसके लिए एक समझदार इंसान का चुनाव किया जाये |अपनी शक्ति और ऊर्जा का साद्य्प्योग करके गुरु से ही वादविवाद किया जाये तो अच्छा रहता है |
अपनी ऊर्जा को हर किसी से साथ वाद विवाद मैं उलझा कर नष्ट नहीं करना चाहिए |

i agree but if discussion is to learn only den y will more learned person hav a discussion wid a less learned one......

bcoz as u said "Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है | " den acc to it a more learned person is wasting time n if its so den the whole use of discussion is lost......

[saurabhjaglan]

मित्र ,

मेरा तात्पर्य ये नहीं है |
एक समझदार गुरु को अपने शिष्य का चुनाव भी करना चाहिए |
क्या वह इस लायक है की गुरु की बातों का उदंडता से अपमान तो नहीं करेगा |
उसे यह भी देखना चाहिए की कहीं यह शिष्य समाज में उसकी बातो को गलत तरह से पेश तो निः करेगा.|तब जाकर उसे अपना बनाना चाहिए |
और अपना ज्ञान सिर्फ उन लोगो के साथ बाटें जो उसे समझ और अपना सके |


तब किसी भी प्रकार का "Discussion ",वार्तालाप या वाद् विवाद "conctructive " और समाज की भलाई के लिए होता है. |



i agree but if discussion is to learn only den y will more learned person hav a discussion wid a less learned one......

bcoz as u said "Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है | " den acc to it a more learned person is wasting time n if its so den the whole use of discussion is lost......

[dahiyarocks]

मित्र ,

मेरा तात्पर्य ये नहीं है |
एक समझदार गुरु को अपने शिष्य का चुनाव भी करना चाहिए |
क्या वह इस लायक है की गुरु की बातों का उदंडता से अपमान तो नहीं करेगा |
उसे यह भी देखना चाहिए की कहीं यह शिष्य समाज में उसकी बातो को गलत तरह से पेश तो निः करेगा.|तब जाकर उसे अपना बनाना चाहिए |
और अपना ज्ञान सिर्फ उन लोगो के साथ बाटें जो उसे समझ और अपना सके |

तब किसी भी प्रकार का "Discussion ",वार्तालाप या वाद् विवाद "conctructive " और समाज की भलाई के लिए होता है. |

ye walli bat puri tarah man li gao hai bhai

per yaha virtual world mein ye chunav kar panna bahut muskil hai

[Prikshit]

iska matlb ki agar koe jyada samajhdar aadmi hai wo kam samajhdar ke sath bat hi na kre....kyoki usse kuch sikhne ko toh millega hi nhi

m i rite?????/

Sumit ji Please try to understand the point made by him. There would be many people posting in different discussions.
The best thing one can do is to gain maximum out of it.
If you are more intelligent it is your onus to keep your views and guide less knowledgeable people. Samajdar here means the one who takes positive out of everything, as all are blessed with same brain, utilization of it varies from person to person.
I hope I have made it clear. Please do think over it, always take time before you reply.

[dahiyarocks]

Sumit ji Please try to understand the point made by him. There would be many people posting in different discussions.
The best thing one can do is to gain maximum out of it.
If you are more intelligent it is your onus to keep your views and guide less knowledgeable people. Samajdar here means the one who takes positive out of everything, as all are blessed with same brain, utilization of it various with person to person.
I hope I have made it clear. Please do think over it, always take time before you reply.

i hav agreed to his points..........or aapki samajhdar walli defentation bhi sahi hai.......

tat statement made by him was confusing.........if i havnt cleared tat point wid him den sumone else cud hav misunderstood his point.......afterall everyone's grasping n understanding power is diff.......

n he cleared it in a gud way by his guru shishya point......

u also said same thing in "If you are more intelligent it is your onus to keep your views and guide less knowledgeable people"

ar bhai yo ji mat lga.....umar mein bahut chota hu tham sabte..........

[saurabhjaglan]

भाई सुमित,

वैसे यहाँ ज्यादातर सभी लोग अच्छे हैं परन्तु इनमें से मुझे अब तक कुछ ही लोगो से वार्तालाप करने का अवसर प्राप्त हुआ है :
ये हैं :-


सीमा मालिक
बुरडक जी
भाई परीक्षित
नीतू सहरावत
नेहा जी
नवीन गुलिया जी
बिशन जी
advocate सतबीर सिंह जागलान जी

[dahiyarocks]

भाई सुमित,

वैसे यहाँ ज्यादातर सभी लोग अच्छे हैं परन्तु इनमें से मुझे अब तक कुछ ही लोगो से वार्तालाप करने का अवसर प्राप्त हुआ है :
ये हैं :-


सीमा मालिक
बुरडक जी
भाई परीक्षित
नीतू सहरावत
नेहा जी
नवीन गुलिया जी
बिशन जी
advocate सतबीर सिंह जागलान जी

bhai mera te issa impression pada kare se logga pe ke dur te e ram ram kar de se merte te..........

[saurabhjaglan]

सुमित ,


शुरू में सब एक जैसे ही होते है|


नवजात शिशु चाहे कोई भी हो वो चल नहीं सकता| चलने के लिए उसे सिखाना पड़ता है, और खुद उसकी लगन भी काम आती है |


हम सभी एक नवजात शिशु की भांति हैं | कुछ भी नया करने से पहले हमें अपनी "Present state " का ज्ञान होना ज़रूरी है |


तुम जानते हो तुम कैसे हो |और जो अपने आप को जल्दी जान लेता है ,ऐसा इंसान अपने आप को उतनी ही जल्दी से बदलने की काबिलियत भी रखता है |

[dahiyarocks]

bhai abhi toh khud ti hi khoj chal rahi hai..........

jis din ho jayegi us din duniya badal ja gi

or jab tak nhi hoti toh tab tak apne aap ko bura present karta hu..........wo roop pasand aa jayega toh jo mein hu use accept karne mein bhi kissi ko dikat nhi hogi or koi mere upper ungli bhi nhi utha apyega ki tum juthe ho ya fake ho

[Prikshit]

भाई सुमित,

वैसे यहाँ ज्यादातर सभी लोग अच्छे हैं परन्तु इनमें से मुझे अब तक कुछ ही लोगो से वार्तालाप करने का अवसर प्राप्त हुआ है :
ये हैं :-


सीमा मालिक
बुरडक जी
भाई परीक्षित
नीतू सहरावत
नेहा जी
नवीन गुलिया जी
बिशन जी advocate सतबीर सिंह जागलान जी To add on few more names who always talk sense

Renu joon
Fateh ji
Samar kadyan

[bls31]

possibly for some acts as a safety valve to release for inner frustrations, pressures and tensions

[vijay]

Obviously .... it does a great help to understand a person.

Any psychiatric can do a successful research here.

[annch]

Yeah! better be a man/woman of few words!..:)

Obviously .... it does a great help to understand a person.

Any psychiatric can do a successful research here.

[vicky84]

here i hav seen all kinda topics which r discussed but wat i wanna kno is tat does it helps us in any way or v r just trying to impress other persona by giving our views....


do v apply gud points in our life or r de only bol vachans????????

Discussions help in refining knowledge. Good discussions help people understand a topic from different perspective. More people engaged in a discussion means more ideas and knowledge sharing. Not sure about the implementations of the ideas but yes it may change one's perception!

[dahiyarocks]

Discussions help in refining knowledge. Good discussions help people understand a topic from different perspective. More people engaged in a discussion means more ideas and knowledge sharing. Not sure about the implementations of the ideas but yes it may change one's perception!

all points taken except "Not sure about the implementations of the ideas but yes it may change one's perception!"

bcoz how can u change ur perception without implementing that thing?

[dahiyarocks]

possibly for some acts as a safety valve to release for inner frustrations, pressures and tensions

wells its one things which applies 100 percent on me :)

[urmiladuhan]

i agree but if discussion is to learn only den y will more learned person hav a discussion wid a less learned one......

bcoz as u said "Discussion का फ़ायदा तब है जब आप अपने से समझदार इंसान के साथ करे,उस से कुछ सीखने को मिले, अन्यथा समय की बर्बादी है | " den acc to it a more learned person is wasting time n if its so den the whole use of discussion is lost......

Teaching is considered a noble profession - not for nothing!

[dahiyarocks]

Teaching is considered a noble profession - not for nothing!

well its a business now a days

[urmiladuhan]

अपनी शक्ति और ऊर्जा का साद्य्प्योग करके गुरु से ही वादविवाद किया जाये तो अच्छा रहता है |
अपनी ऊर्जा को हर किसी से साथ वाद विवाद मैं उलझा कर नष्ट नहीं करना चाहिए |

Well said. Kindly clarify if "vad veevad" is same as "argument - counterargument"? If so, "vad veevad" may not be the same thing as "discussion".

[urmiladuhan]

well its a business now a days

Yes, largely. There are still some good teachers. Saara hee kalyug konee - thank god!

[dahiyarocks]

Well said. Kindly clarify if "vad veevad" is same as "argument - counterargument"? If so, "vad veevad" may not be the same thing as "discussion".

i think वाद विवाद is debate but a word can have different meanings

[dahiyarocks]

Yes, largely. There are still some good teachers. Saara hee kalyug konee - thank god!

its d good ones hu hav made it a business...........

[urmiladuhan]

its d good ones hu hav made it a business...........

Right. I think one factor is too many students and too few good teachers.

[urmiladuhan]

i think वाद विवाद is debate but a word can have different meanings

Then discussion is not the same thing as vad veevad (it is closer in meaning to debate). I think discussion is done in a friendly environment while debate/ vaad veevad is akin to verbal fighting to win - which is what happens on JL most of the time - to win whatever it may take - peace, harmony, respect for fellow people... that drains energy. A discussion, on the other hand is meant to be invigorating.

[dahiyarocks]

Then discussion is not the same thing as vad veevad (it is closer in meaning to debate). I think discussion is done in a friendly environment while debate/ vaad veevad is akin to verbal fighting to win - which is what happens on JL most of the time - to win whatever it may take - peace, harmony, respect for fellow people... that drains energy. A discussion, on the other hand is meant to be invigorating.

a word has many meanings

in an english to hindi dictionary ,discussion means-चर्चा ,बहस,आलोचनाआ,परिचर्चा,वाद विवाद,शास्त्रार्थ,वितर्क,परीक्षा

[Fateh]

Every one from every moment, every event, every other person, every experience, every incident, every discussion etc,may be good/bad, concluded/uncluded, learns many things knowingly/unknowingly ofcourse the degree may vary from person to person dependingupon his keenness, ability to understand etc.Yes, I agree that we must discuss all topics seriously, reach to some conclusion if possible.

[Prikshit]

A Glass is half full or half empty it depends upon how we look at it.
Some people always find good out of things or words and others do the opposite.
Best one can do is work on his/her conduct to make it good.

[urmiladuhan]

Obviously .... it does a great help to understand a person.

Any psychiatric can do a successful research here.

I think you meant "psychologist" (he/she reflects on psychology of a person) instead of a psychiatrist (he/she treats disorders).

[urmiladuhan]

a word has many meanings

in an english to hindi dictionary ,discussion means-चर्चा ,बहस,आलोचनाआ,परिचर्चा,वाद विवाद,शास्त्रार्थ,वितर्क,परीक्षा

As per my limited knowledge, I beg to disagree. I think "behas" is argument in english and not discussion.
I also think pariksha is examination.

[urmiladuhan]

As per my limited knowledge, I beg to disagree. I think "behas" is argument in english and not discussion.
I also think pariksha is examination.

Which dictionary are you using?

[dahiyarocks]

As per my limited knowledge, I beg to disagree. I think "behas" is argument in english and not discussion.
I also think pariksha is examination.

kirpya is link pe ja ke khud dekh le

http://shabdkosh.raftaar.in/Hindi-Dictionary/Meaning/discussion

[urmiladuhan]

kirpya is link pe ja ke khud dekh le

http://shabdkosh.raftaar.in/Hindi-Dictionary/Meaning/discussion

One example of its (discussion = pareksha) usage on the website is :

पुनर्विचार या परीक्षा करना. I don't see how this could mean discussion. All it means is : rethink

Anyway. No big deal. Carry on...

[dahiyarocks]

One example of its (discussion = pareksha) usage on the website is :

पुनर्विचार या परीक्षा करना. I don't see how this could mean discussion. All it means is : rethink

Anyway. No big deal. Carry on...

examination by argument