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dahiyavijay7
February 29th, 2012, 02:14 PM
The History taught to us by the NCERT is the root cause of communalism and terrorism in India. The history does not talk about the current demography of India. The NCERT books gives the false perception that Muslims came to India from Afghanistan & Turkey during Mougal empire and the Christian comes from Britain during British raj. We people are fooled to believe that muslims and Christian are different species from Hindus.
The Hindu people are forced to read the NCERT curriculum, which in the name of secularism do not give ample weightage to the contribution made by Hindu philosophy, science, culture and art. The muslims and british Christians rulers were given the similar treatment as ancient Indian rulers. The contribution made by these foreign rulers is lauded by the NCERT books, so that the Hindu community could have tolerant and sympathetic outlook towards these brutal invaders. However, the minority institutions in India are free to teach their own history. The Madrasa in India teach the History of India which commences with the invasion of muslims in India and muslims regards it as the victory of their community over the kafirs (Indian Hindus). The brutal atrocities made to the Hindu public of India are taken with pride. The muslim fundamentalist use these teachings to further intolerant terror politics. The muslims in India consider themselves as earlier rulers and the fact did not get down well with the muslims that in democracy they are not ruling the majority Hindus. Due to these teachings the muslim leaders could spread hatred among the muslim that all the miseries of the ruler muslims is the democratic setup in which a majority hindu has more chance to get the post of Prime Minister. This is the reason the minorities have more loyalty towards Arab countries than India.
However, it is all rubbish. Our history did not tell the reality that 99.9% of the muslim and Christian population in India, Pakistan and Bangladesh did not come from foreign land but are converted under Muslim and British rule respectively due to repression and enticement meted by these rulers. Historical surverys conducted before independence suggests that most of the people who converted to Christianity belong to Hindu Shudra community. Who is Ahmed Patel, a close associate of Sonia Gandhi ? How a muslim coming from Afghanistan or Turkey could be a Patel? Patel is a Hindu Gotra. These fanatic minority votaries were actually Hindus in the past. Mohammad Iqbal, author of song “Sare Jahan Se Accha Hindustan Hamara”, who later became strong votary of separate Pakistan for Muslims, was earlier a Hindu Brahmin. Today the people, who feel pride in associating themselves with the earlier rulers (Mougal & British invaders), do not how their forefathers were brutally beaten or mothers raped to convert them to Muslim religion. Had our history taught this reality to the people, then the muslims would have hated these invaders and would have shown their loyalty towards the Indian culture and history.

ravinderjeet
February 29th, 2012, 02:53 PM
तेरी इह डाक खातर मेरी १००० लाइक्स भाई |

dahiyavijay7
February 29th, 2012, 03:00 PM
तेरी इह डाक खातर मेरी १००० लाइक्स भाई |

Thank You dear.

Hariom1972
February 29th, 2012, 09:22 PM
You posted the message today at 2.15 pm and by 9.30 pm, six persons have liked it, nice to see that we still have warm blooded tigers in our land.

dndeswal
March 1st, 2012, 12:01 AM
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On the website www.islam-watch.org there are many interesting articles. One of these is available on the following link Titled “Why I Left Islam”:

http://www.islam-watch.org/AliSina/why_I_left_Islam.htm.

Coming to the main topic, the following article by a foreigner criticizes authors of NCERT history books to an extent, even we do not imagine how these books are maligning our glorious past :

http://www.vigilonline.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=485&Itemid=62


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Hariom1972
March 6th, 2012, 07:24 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negationism_in_India:_Concealing_the_Record_of_Isl am

Koenraad Elst compares the negationists in India with the negationists in Europe:

"The number of victims of this persecution surpasses that of the Nazi crimes. ... The Islamic reports on the massacres of Hindus, destruction of Hindu temples, the abduction of Hindu women and forced conversions, invariably express great glee and pride. ... In my study of the Ayodhya (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayodhya) controversy, I noticed that the frequent attempts to conceal or deny inconvenient evidence were an integral part of a larger effort to rewrite India's history and to whitewash Islam. It struck me that this effort to deny the unpleasant facts of Islam's destructive role in Indian history is similar to the attempts by some European writers to deny the Nazi holocaust (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust). European negationists applaud Hitler's reign and deny its horrors. Indian negationists eulogize Islamic rule and deny its millionfold murders and the catastrophe it wrought in Indian cultural, political and religious life."

Hariom1972
March 6th, 2012, 07:29 AM
Koenraad Elst (http://www.hinduwisdom.info/quotes201_220.htm#Q212)(1959 -) born into a Flemish (i.e. Dutch-speaking Belgian) Catholic family. He graduated in Philosophy, Chinese Studies and Indo-Iranian Studies at the Catholic University of Leuven. He has pointed out:
"Hindus too experienced this treatment at the hands of Islamic conquerors, e.g. when Mohammed bin Qasim conquered the lower Indus basin in 712 CE. Thus, in Multan, according to theChach-Nama, "six thousand warriors were put to death, and all their relations and dependents were taken as slaves". This is why Rajput women committed mass suicide to save their honour in the face of the imminent entry of victorious Muslim armies, e.g. 8,000 women immolated themselves during Akbar's capture of Chittorgarh in 1568 (where this most enlightened ruler also killed 30,000 non-combatants).
"Hindu Society has been suffering a sustained attack from Islam since the 7th century, from Christianity since the 15th century, and this century also from Marxism. The avowed objective of each of these three world-conquering movements, with their massive resources, is the replacement of Hinduism by their own ideology, or in effect: the destruction of Hinduism. This concern is not at all paranoid (as the spokespersons of these aggressors would say), even if the conversion squads are remarkably unsuccessful in India. Consider the situation in Africa: in 1900, 50 % of all Africans practiced Pagan religion; today Christian and Islamic missionaries have reduced this number to less than 10 %. That is the kind of threat Hinduism is up against. "

ravinderjeet
March 6th, 2012, 05:17 PM
"Hindus too experienced this treatment at the hands of Islamic conquerors, e.g. when Mohammed bin Qasim conquered the lower Indus basin in 712 CE. Thus, in Multan, according to theChach-Nama, "six thousand warriors were put to death, and all their relations and dependents were taken as slaves". This is why Rajput women committed mass suicide to save their honour in the face of the imminent entry of victorious Muslim armies, e.g. 8,000 women immolated themselves during Akbar's capture of Chittorgarh in 1568 (where this most enlightened ruler also killed 30,000 non-combatants).

हरिओम भाई इसवी सन ७१२ में राजपूत नामक कोई जाती नहीं होती थी दुनिया में ,इनका नामकरण ११७० इसवी सन में किया गया हे ब्राह्मणों द्वारा | शायद लेखक को इस तथ्य का अभिज्ञान नहीं होगा |

Hariom1972
March 6th, 2012, 09:17 PM
Hi Ravinder, The author is talking about two different periods here, In 712 CE he talking about a incident in Multan, which had hindu population at that time and the second incident is in 1568 in Chitorgarh, I just did a cut, copy paste from wikipedia.
Regards

Moar
March 7th, 2012, 12:17 AM
Please Read: http://www.jatland.com/home/Gotra

Hariom1972
March 8th, 2012, 09:39 AM
http://www.francoisgautier.com/en-art/

http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/16francois.htm

The truth about Aurangzeb

As written By Francois Gautier


FACT, the Trust which I ( François Gautier) head, is holding an exhibition on 'Aurangzeb as he was according to Mughal documents', from February 16 to 20 at New Delhi's Habitat Center, the Palm Court Gallery, from 10 am to 9 pm.
Why an exhibition on Aurangzeb, some may ask. Firstly, I have been a close student of Indian history, and one of its most controversial figures has been Aurangzeb (1658-1707). It is true that under him the Mughal empire reached its zenith, but Aurangzeb was also a very cruel ruler – some might even say monstrous.
What are the facts? Aurangzeb did not just build an isolated mosque on a destroyed temple, he ordered all temples destroyed, among them the Kashi Vishwanath temple, one of the most sacred places of Hinduism, and had mosques built on a number of cleared temple sites. Other Hindu sacred places within his reach equally suffered destruction, with mosques built on them. A few examples: Krishna's birth temple in Mathura; the rebuilt Somnath temple on the coast of Gujarat; the Vishnu temple replaced with the Alamgir mosque now overlooking Benares; and the Treta-ka-Thakur temple in Ayodhya. The number of temples destroyed by Aurangzeb is counted in four, if not five figures. Aurangzeb did not stop at destroying temples, their users were also wiped out; even his own brother Dara Shikoh was executed for taking an interest in Hindu religion; Sikh Guru Tegh Bahadur was beheaded because he objected to Aurangzeb's forced conversions.


Yet, Percival Spear, co-author with Romila Thapar of the prestigious A History of India [ Images ] (Penguin), writes: 'Aurangzeb's supposed intolerance is little more than a hostile legend based on isolated acts such as the erection of a mosque on a temple site in Benares.' L'histoire de l'Inde moderne (Fayard), the French equivalent of Percival Spear's history of India, praises Aurangzeb and says, 'He has been maligned by Hindu fundamentalists'. Even Indian politicians are ignorant of Aurangzeb's evil deeds. Nehru might have known about them, but for his own reasons he chose to keep quiet and instructed his historians to downplay Aurangzeb's destructive drive and instead praise him as a benefactor of arts.


Since then six generations of Marxist historians have done the same and betrayed their allegiance to truth. Very few people know for instance that Aurangzeb banned any kind of music and that painters had to flee his wrath and take refuge with some of Rajasthan's [ Images ] friendly maharajahs.
Thus, we thought we should get at the root of the matter. History (like journalism) is about documentation and first-hand experience. We decided to show Aurangzeb according to his own documents. There are an incredible number of farhans, original edicts of Aurangzeb hand-written in Persian, in India's museums, particularly in Rajasthan, such as the Bikaner archives. It was not always easy to scan them, we encountered resistance, sometimes downright hostility and we had to go once to the chief minister to get permission. Indeed, the director of Bikaner archives told us that in 50 years we were the first ones asking for the farhans dealing with Aurangzeb's destructive deeds. Then we asked painters from Rajasthan to reproduce in the ancient Mughal style some of the edicts: the destruction of Somnath temple; the trampling of Hindus protesting jaziya tax by Aurangzeb's elephants; or the order from Aurangzeb prohibiting Hindus to ride horses and palanquins; or the beheading of Teg Bahadur and Dara Shikoh.

mandeep333
March 16th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Dear Sh. Hariom singh Dahiya ji
I must congratulate you for your efforts to unearth the facts which people with vested interests would never wish that such facts be placed in public domain!

ravinderjeet
March 16th, 2012, 06:27 PM
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या भी एक सच्चाई स |यु शोभा सिंह खुशवंत सिंह का बाप था |

JSRana
March 16th, 2012, 07:39 PM
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या भी एक सच्चाई स |यु शोभा सिंह खुशवंत सिंह का बाप था |

Very disheartening state of affairs Ravinder Ji.

cutejaatsandeep
March 16th, 2012, 10:03 PM
vijender bhai ji yee jo bhi kuch hua sab ki jadd to hum hindu hi hai...chahee mughal ho ya angrez koi bhi hum par kabzaa nahi kar saktaa tha without our willll...hum hindu kabhi united nahi hue...rajputo ne apni beti mullo kee byaad di jaato ko haranee ke liyee..aaj bhi kitne aise hindu hai jooo mullo ke baare mai kuch galat nahi sun saktee.....aisaa kyoo..kya unko nahi pata ke unkee poorvajj innn mulloo kee ladkee maaree haii...hum saale hindu hotee hi fudddu hai....deshh mai 80% hindu hai to kyo hum narender modi jaise insaan ko desh ka prime minister nahi banatee..baaat to hum itni karte hai but kabhi unko implemtnt nahi karte...yaha jatland pur kitne aise member hai jo kattarr hindu hai bataoo mujhee...kissi mullee ko gaali de doo to moderator to thread hi delete kar dete hai....kabhi kissi mulloo ki site pur jaoo moderatorss waha kya kya leekha hota hai hindu deti devtaoo ke liyee..kabhi kabhi zeyada education bhi dharam n jaati ka naash kar deti hai jaise aaj hindonn ka n jaato ka ho raha hai...hum saale jiss gandhi ki photo har jagahh laga kee rakhte hai uskee khudd ke beete harilal gandi ne islamm kabool kar liya thaa...kitne sharam ki baat hai ye hamare liyee..doosri baat aur christians banane mai haath hum hindus ka hi hai....kyo hum inn saale pandatoo ke kehne mai chalte hai kyo hum sc,bc ko apne se alagg maante hai can u tel me....yee shudra kshatriya vaishyaa jaati kisne banayee hai....inn haamri pandatoo ne....sc,bc haridwar jakarr kawadd lekar aate hai n hum hindus unhe mandir mai ghoosne nahi detee....jab hum unhee hindus maante nahi to woo kyo hindu rahe phirr...inn pandatoo ne iss desh n dharam ka naash kiya hua hai....we hidnus ka too soft...1500muslim gujarat mai mar diye dangoo ne bahut acha kiya woo bhi tab jab mullo ne hindus se bhari eek train compartment mai aag laga di thi...saaab saale modi saaa ke peeche paade hai...aab ye bataoo 1980 se 2000 tak 500000 kashmiri hindu maare gayee unkaa kya waha ke CM se koi lena dena nahi hai....1500 marne pur media wale itni news deekhate hai n 500000 maare gayee unki koi news nahi aati...waha jk kE CM pur to koi case nahi chala..dis shown how weak we r...we need a man lik narender bhai modi....mai to uske paoo chuna chahta hu....waise i know mere ye comment bhi delete ho jayenge to wish yehi karta hu ki sabke padne ke baad hi delete ho...thanx