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ravinderjeet

June 19th, 2012, 04:53 PM

में एक बात बुझना चाहूँ सु , भाइयां पे , अक जा किसान खुद ऐकले या सहयोगी संगठन बना के ने काम कर सके सें के ?
मेरे अनुसार आप मार्केटिंग करें ते दो फेदे सें ,
१) जो खेत अर बाजार भाव का १० गुना का अन्तर स ,उस का फेदा जमींदार द्वारा ठाया जा सके स |
२)जनता ने (एंड यूजर ) सस्ता सामान मिल सके स |
३) जमींदाराँ के बालक इंटरप्रेनर बण सकें सें |
इह में जा क़ानून की या फेर कोए ओर किहे ढाल की गलेट लाग्दी हो ते मन्ने कोणी बेरा, जिन्न भाइयां ने बेरा हो ते चानणा गेरिओ | यु तागा बहस करण खातर कोणी स बस ज्ञान लवण अर देवण खातर स ,ज्युकर जा कोए इह का किम्मे फेदा ले सके स ते ले लेवे |

phoolkumar

June 19th, 2012, 05:03 PM

ravinderjeet

June 19th, 2012, 05:15 PM

ज्युकर हर प्रोडक्ट पे "अधिकतम खुदरा मूल्य " लिखा होड़ हो स ,न्यू-ए जमींदार खुद आपणा उत्पादन , आप ऍम.आर.पि. लिख के क्यूँ नि बेच सकदा ? जब फेक्ट्री का मालिक आप रेट डिसाइड कर सके स अक उह ने आपणा सौदा कितने में बेचना स ते जमींदार क्यूँ नि कर सकदा ? जा मार्केटिंग की मुश्किल स ते फेर इह काम खातर हर जिले या तहशील स्तर पे केवल इस्से काम खातर कॉ.ओपरेटिव सोसाइटी क्यूँ नहीं बनाई जा सकदी ?

ravinderjeet

June 19th, 2012, 05:20 PM

एक छिम्बी खुद लात्त्यां की सीमाई फिक्स करे स | एक पोटाटो चिप्स बनानिया खुद उह का मार्केट का कम्पीटीशन देख के ने उह लिफ़ाफ़े की कीमत धरे स | एक जुते बणानिया आपने जुत्याँ की रेट खुद फिक्स करे स | ते जमींदार न्यू-ए सब क्यूँ नि कर सकदा ? के कारण स , अक जमींदार ने सारी हाण सरकार का मुंह देखणा पड़े स ,रेट फिक्सिंग खातर |

Dagar25

June 20th, 2012, 10:39 AM

agar kisaan price fix karega to kisi kisi area me to "cost of production" itni hai ak "MRP" bhaut jyada ho jaagaa......ultimately koi to suffer karega hi.......These kinds of schemes would benefit the big farmers....Farmers who have small land holding would not get induced for participating in this system........jinke pass jameen hi 10-15 beeegha hai..unhe jyada fark nahi padegaa........some agricultural products comes in essential commodies like rice & Wheat etc for which govt. can intervene in fixation of price...waise bhi govt. ne agriculture par koi income tax nahi lagaa rakhaa hai.....(Except corporates who do some agricultural activities for their product) agar aisa hua to tax bhi nischit taur par lagenge

Ravinder bhaisaab jo system aapne bataaya hai wo bade kisaano ke liye hi jyada faaaydamand hai.........Baaki aapka system bahut badiyaa hai ....mai to kahoonga ek tarah se Agriculture ka corporatisation hai.....

Note:- Agar Kisaan MRP fix kar lenge.........to Govt Ki umeede bhi badh jaayengi............aur agricultural sector par bhi bahut saare tax lag jaayenge......Result----Chhote kisaan ko jo thoda bahut bachegaa wo tax ke through nikal jaayega...

Dagar25

June 20th, 2012, 10:55 AM

I am surprised that such kinds of good threads are not getting enough response........i think reason is lack of Interest in agriculture....it also shows that Most of JLers are not involved in agriculture or not interested in discussing or sharing their knowledge if they know.......

I think if farming is done on a large scale, with latest technology and with right marketing as suggested by ravinderjeet bhaisaab.....is a very good profession.....there is natural tendency among all for doing a job.....that has to be changed...this is most common in Jats....that's why we are far behind in corporate race.......

Yes I am totally agreed it is a good opportunity for jats to become an entrepreneur.........

DrRajpalSingh

June 20th, 2012, 10:56 AM

Dear brother, to me to do this kind of endeavor, farmers need to have the right of deciding the cost of his produce in his hands.

And this can be easily achieved if our Khaps and Society both got united to pressurise politicians to get this right for them. And no party or politician have dare to deny their this demand.

But misfortune is that we always stay busy in discussing Honor Killing and similar issues which are neither in control of goverment nor Khaps.

I hope some Khap leader would be reading it....and could think on this idea.

Other than this Ravinder Bhai Ji, your points are absolutely strong and innovative but base is the right to decide the price of our products.

Farmers can do it on individual basis too but for that we need big committements, dedicated groups and top to bottom and bottom to top understanding of such fundas.

I think we can further dicuss on building understanding on how to do these things.

I think, the khap panchyats are limited to a certain region of the country, they cannot play effective role at all India level in the matter.

So long Aratiyas [middlemen engaged in food-grains business] are involved in procurement of farm producee, the toiling peasant would continue to suffer. Even the government procuring agencies like FCI, Hafed , Confed, Markfed and others do not make direct purchases from the farms; then how one can hope that the lot of the farmers is going to improve by putting a tag on their farm produce! You are right to suggest that further more pragmatic suggestions must come forward through discussion among the stake holders and all the parties involved in this gamut of price fixation!
Thanks

DrRajpalSingh

June 20th, 2012, 11:08 AM

vicky84

June 20th, 2012, 11:28 AM

Bahut achha vichar hai. Yah tabhi sambhava ho sakata hai Jab sare desh ke kisanon mein aise achhe vichoron ko falane aur unmein jagiti paida karane ke liya koi samane aaye.
Bhartiya Kisan Union ka kya hua? Abhi tak jo Kisan Union bani hain..Unhone kya achieve kiya hai..Shayad usse humme bahut kuch sikhne ko mil sakta hai.. Ki ye Union "Safal" kyon nahi ho sakin.

vicky84

June 20th, 2012, 11:34 AM

Mere vichar se,, Kisaon ko behtar mulaye jabhi mil sakta hai, jab "Market" mei competition ho.. India ki retail market mei abhi itna competition nahi hai..Aur rahi baat agriculture ki,,,, to is time pe India mei zameen kaam hai,,, aur logon ko rozgaar sirf industrialisation se mil sakta hai..Kheti mei jitne logg abhi laage hue hain..utne logon ki wahan jaroorat nahi hai..iska sidha solution hai,, kheti se log bahar nikalo aur unko kisi aur rozgaar mei fit karo... But apne desh mei jo sarkari tantra hai usme bahut badlaav ki jaroorat hai..uske bina ye sab kuch sambhav nahi hai.

vicky84

June 20th, 2012, 12:05 PM

Excerpt from Wiki:

Until 2010, intermediaries and middlemen in India have dominated the value chain. Due to a number of intermediaries involved in the traditional Indian retail chain, norms are flouted and pricing lacks transparency. Small Indian farmers realize only 1/3rd of the total price paid by the final Indian consumer, as against 2/3rd by farmers in nations with a higher share of organized retail.[11] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-kpmg2010a-10) The 60%+ margins for middlemen and traditional retail shops have limited growth and prevented innovation in Indian retail industry.

India has had years of debate and discussions on the risks and prudence of allowing innovation and competition within its retail industry.[12] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-11) Numerous economists repeatedly recommended to the Government of India that legal restrictions on organized retail must be removed, and the retail industry in India must be opened to competition. For example, in an invited address to the Indian parliament in December 2010, Jagdish Bhagwati (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jagdish_Bhagwati), Professor of Economics and Law at the Columbia University analysed the relationship between growth and poverty reduction, then urged the Indian parliament to extend economic reforms by freeing up of the retail sector, further liberalisation of trade in all sectors, and introducing labor market reforms. Such reforms Professor Bhagwati argued will accelerate economic growth and make a sustainable difference in the life of India's poorest.,[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-12)[14] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-13)

vicky84

June 20th, 2012, 12:13 PM

So long Aratiyas [middlemen engaged in food-grains business] are involved in procurement of farm producee, the toiling peasant would continue to suffer.
Thanks

That's the bottom line!

Excerpt from Wiki:

Farmer groupsVarious farmer associations in India have announced their support for the retail reforms. For example:

Shriram Gadhve of All India Vegetable Growers Association (AIVGA) claims his organization supports retail reform. He claimed that currently, it is the middlemen commission agents who benefit at the cost of farmers. He urged that the retail reform must focus on rural areas and that farmers receive benefits. Gadhve claimed, "A better cold storage would help since this could help prevent the existing loss of 34% of fruits and vegetables due to inefficient systems in place." AIVGA operates in nine states including Maharashtra, Andhra Pradesh, West Bengal, Bihar, Chattisgarh, Punjab and Haryana with 2,200 farmer outfits as its members.[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-fe12a-63)
Bharat Krishak Samaj, a farmer association with more than 75,000 members says it supports retail reform. Ajay Vir Jakhar, the chairman of Bharat Krishak Samaj, claimed a monopoly exists between the private guilds of middlemen, commission agents at the sabzi mandis (India's wholesale markets for vegetables and farm produce) and the small shopkeepers in the unorganized retail market. Given the perishable nature of food like fruit and vegetables, without the option of safe and reliable cold storage, the farmer is compelled to sell his crop at whatever price he can get. He cannot wait for a better price and is thus exploited by the current monopoly of middlemen. Jakhar asked that the government make it mandatory for organized retailers to buy 75% of their produce directly from farmers, bypassing the middlemen monopoly and India's sabzi mandi auction system.[64] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-fe12a-63)
Consortium of Indian Farmers Associations (CIFA) announced its support for retail reform. Chengal Reddy, secretary general of CIFA claimed retail reform could do lots for Indian farmers. Reddy commented, “India has 600 million farmers, 1,200 million consumers and 5 million traders. I fail to understand why political parties are taking an anti-farmer stand and worried about half a million brokers and small shopkeepers.” CIFA mainly operates in Andhra Pradesh, Karnataka and Tamil Nadu; but has a growing members from rest of India, including Shetkari Sanghatana in Maharashtra, Rajasthan Kisan Union and Himachal Farmer Organisations.
Prakash Thakur, the chairman of the People for Environment Horticulture & Livelihood of Himachal Pradesh, announcing his support for retail reforms claimed FDI is expected to roll out produce storage centers that will increase market access, reduce the number of middlemen and enhance returns to farmers.[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-TT212-64) Highly perishable fruits like cherry, apricot, peaches and plums have a huge demand but are unable to tap the market fully because of lack of cold storage and transport infrastructure. Sales will boost with the opening up of retail. Even though India is the second-largest producer of fruits and vegetables in the world, its storage infrastructure is grossly inadequate, claimed Thakur.
Sharad Joshi, founder of Shetkari Sangathana (farmers association), has announced his support for retail reforms.[66] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-65) Joshi claims FDI will help the farm sector improve critical infrastructure and integrate farmer-consumer relationship. Today, the existing retail has not been able to supply fresh vegetables to the consumers because they have not invested in the backward integration. When the farmers' produce reaches the end consumer directly, the farmers will naturally be benefited. Joshi feels retail reform is just a first step of needed agricultural reforms in India, and that the government should pursue additional reforms.

Suryamurthy, in an article in The Telegraph (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Telegraph_(Kolkata)), claims farmer groups across India do not support status quo and seek retail reforms, because with the current retail system the farmer is being exploited. For example, the article claims:[65] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-TT212-64)

Indian farmers get only one third of the price consumers pay for food staples, the rest is taken as commissions and markups by middlemen and shopkeepers
For perishable horticulture produce, average price farmers receive is barely 12 to 15% of the final price consumer pays
Indian potato farmers sell their crop for Rs. 2 to 3 a kilogram, while the Indian consumer buys the same potato for Rs. 12 to 20 a kilogram.[67] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retailing_in_India#cite_note-66)

akshaymalik84

June 20th, 2012, 12:44 PM

vicky84

June 20th, 2012, 01:32 PM

आतिश ...भाई अपनी इन पोस्ट ने कित्ते ते कॉपी पेस्ट की बजाये संक्षेप में लिख दिया कर ......इतनी बड़ी पोस्ट कोणी पढ़ी जाती, बीच में ऐ इंटेरेस्ट ख़तम हो ले है ....

अर इस गूगल अर्र विकी के इतना लठ मत देवे.......थोड़े दिन में गूगल सर्च में जाटलैंड की पोस्ट दिखया करेंगी

एक बै जाटलैंड के पन्ने पलट कै देख ले..भतेरे प्रस्ताव लिख राखे सें! अर्र रही बात कॉपी पेस्ट की, तै किम्मे टोपिक तै मिलै सै. आड़े दुनिया बेर न के लिख दे सै.. वो तन्ने दिखदा कोणी..घणे कानून मन्ना छांट,,

akshaymalik84

June 20th, 2012, 02:37 PM

एक बै जाटलैंड के पन्ने पलट कै देख ले..भतेरे प्रस्ताव लिख राखे सें! अर्र रही बात कॉपी पेस्ट की, तै किम्मे टोपिक तै मिलै सै. आड़े दुनिया बेर न के लिख दे सै.. वो तन्ने दिखदा कोणी..घणे कानून मन्ना छांट,,

अरे खसम वाए ते कहू सू किम्मे ते टोपिक मिले स ढंग का अर उसने इतना काम्प्लेक्स बना दे स .....थोडा संक्षेप में लिख दे ते क हो जागा.

I wrote previous post in good taste but ........

VirJ

June 20th, 2012, 03:15 PM

भाई रविंदर खेत हर आस पास के बाजार के भाव में एक ही दिन में इतना बड़ा अंतर नहीं होता. सटोरिये पैसा कमाते हे सट्टे में इसमें नुकसान भी हो सकता हे और फायदा भी. committee या co -operative सोसाइटी का सुझाव अछा हे. संगठन में ताकत हे जितना बड़ा संगठित छेत्र होगा उतनी ही उसकी ताकत होगी. रही बात कीमत नियंतरण की तो ये बड़ा पेचीदा मसला हे. सर्कार subsidy भी देती हे खाद और अन्य उपकरण पर बिजली और पानी पर और कर में भी छुट देती हे. यहाँ पर भाई फूल कुमार की P & L Analysis शीट में देखन पड़ेगा इसमें कितना फायदा और कितना नुकसान हे.
यहाँ भी फायदेमंद बड़े किसान के लिए जयादा होगी. खेती इतना लाब्दायक वयापार नहीं रहा हे बाकि धन्दों की तुलना में, धीरे धीरे अपनी बिरादरी को दुसरे लाब्दायक धन्दों की तरफ निवेश करना चाहिए. हमारी ६०% जनता खेतों में काम करके पुरे देश के कुल उत्पादन में सिर्फ १४% हिसा देती हे

rakeshsehrawat

June 20th, 2012, 03:50 PM

phoolkumar

June 20th, 2012, 04:31 PM

Covering taxes in cost of production is not a big deal....every big to small company do the same....otherwise how could they survive in market......also don't take me here as if I was promoting the burglering on the name of taxes but with this system atleast there will be transparency....moreover in case of having the right of deciding the price of product in own hands, the 2/3rd money which middleman grabs as commissions will be in direct hand of farmers. And in comparison of tax to be paid, 2/3rd is much more....which will not only cover the taxes but more than half of it will come in direct to farmer.

Above all this, I had started a discussion, in which had tried to highlight and importance of getting price right in own hand on this thread: "Balance Sheet (P & L Account) of a five acres land farmer - isn't a white elephant?" (http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?34352-Balance-Sheet-(P-amp-L-Account)-of-a-five-acres-land-farmer-isn-t-a-white-elephant ).

Dagar ji go through this thread....in addition to above said points, I hope this thread may make the necessity of pricing rights more clearer.

Now as far as small farmer with lands in "Beega" is concerned, they will produce vegetable and perishable products with more confidence. With current situations they are unable to dare on such crops because profits generated from their small land holdings are almost equal in both cases...whether they sow wheat/rice or vegetable.

And when they will see this kind of options, probaility is higher that such small farmers may get united by seeing that their own efforts can get them this much huge benefits.

Note: Please don't forget to read from above link about how farmer current and coming generation will get induce in learning process of economy...which is far away dream with current system.

agar kisaan price fix karega to kisi kisi area me to "cost of production" itni hai ak "MRP" bhaut jyada ho jaagaa......ultimately koi to suffer karega hi.......These kinds of schemes would benefit the big farmers....Farmers who have small land holding would not get induced for participating in this system........jinke pass jameen hi 10-15 beeegha hai..unhe jyada fark nahi padegaa........some agricultural products comes in essential commodies like rice & Wheat etc for which govt. can intervene in fixation of price...waise bhi govt. ne agriculture par koi income tax nahi lagaa rakhaa hai.....(Except corporates who do some agricultural activities for their product) agar aisa hua to tax bhi nischit taur par lagenge

Ravinder bhaisaab jo system aapne bataaya hai wo bade kisaano ke liye hi jyada faaaydamand hai.........Baaki aapka system bahut badiyaa hai ....mai to kahoonga ek tarah se Agriculture ka corporatisation hai.....

Note:- Agar Kisaan MRP fix kar lenge.........to Govt Ki umeede bhi badh jaayengi............aur agricultural sector par bhi bahut saare tax lag jaayenge......Result----Chhote kisaan ko jo thoda bahut bachegaa wo tax ke through nikal jaayega...

phoolkumar

June 20th, 2012, 04:41 PM

Doctor Sir,

Doctor Sir,

Question is not on how much area they control. Question is that their penetration among so called Jatland or Khapland still goes impacable. Media tried to diminish it but hardly of any success.

It can be other equivalent bodies in other areas, where Khaps doesn't exist.

I think, the khap panchyats are limited to a certain region of the country, they cannot play effective role at all India level in the matter.

So long Aratiyas [middlemen engaged in food-grains business] are involved in procurement of farm producee, the toiling peasant would continue to suffer. Even the government procuring agencies like FCI, Hafed , Confed, Markfed and others do not make direct purchases from the farms; then how one can hope that the lot of the farmers is going to improve by putting a tag on their farm produce! You are right to suggest that further more pragmatic suggestions must come forward through discussion among the stake holders and all the parties involved in this gamut of price fixation!
Thanks

swaich

June 20th, 2012, 05:31 PM

I always wondered why farmers couldnt organize themselves into cooperatives. Dairy farming is a successful example of farmer cooperatives. Cooperatives would allow them to get united and negotiate better terms with arhtiyas.

vicky84

June 21st, 2012, 09:47 AM

I wrote previous post in good taste but ........

Thik sai,,,pher aan de kimme tere bhi inputs is topic pai.. Short and Crisp

Rakesh ki 45 panne ki report ka abstract usnai likh rakha sai aadee... ustai bhi kaafi kuch sikha ja sakai sai :victorious:

DrRajpalSingh

June 21st, 2012, 10:49 AM

Bhartiya Kisan Union ka kya hua? Abhi tak jo Kisan Union bani hain..Unhone kya achieve kiya hai..Shayad usse humme bahut kuch sikhne ko mil sakta hai.. Ki ye Union "Safal" kyon nahi ho sakin.

There is no place for despondency.

Ek asafalta anek naye aur pahle se achhe vikalapon ke baare mein sochane ka mauka deti hai, na ki sachai se bhagane ki.

Remember the short story we all have read about 'King Bruce and the Spider' urging us not to loose heart; TRY, TRY AGAIN, AND YOU ARE SURE TO SUCCEED AT THE END OF THE DAY!!

DrRajpalSingh

June 21st, 2012, 10:58 AM

भाई रविंदर खेत हर आस पास के बाजार के भाव में एक ही दिन में इतना बड़ा अंतर नहीं होता. सटोरिये पैसा कमाते हे सट्टे में इसमें नुकसान भी हो सकता हे और फायदा भी. committee या co -operative सोसाइटी का सुझाव अछा हे. संगठन में ताकत हे जितना बड़ा संगठित छेत्र होगा उतनी ही उसकी ताकत होगी. रही बात कीमत नियंतरण की तो ये बड़ा पेचीदा मसला हे. सर्कार subsidy भी देती हे खाद और अन्य उपकरण पर बिजली और पानी पर और कर में भी छुट देती हे. यहाँ पर भाई फूल कुमार की P & L Analysis शीट में देखन पड़ेगा इसमें कितना फायदा और कितना नुकसान हे.
यहाँ भी फायदेमंद बड़े किसान के लिए जयादा होगी. खेती इतना लाब्दायक वयापार नहीं रहा हे बाकि धन्दों की तुलना में, धीरे धीरे अपनी बिरादरी को दुसरे लाब्दायक धन्दों की तरफ निवेश करना चाहिए. हमारी ६०% जनता खेतों में काम करके पुरे देश के कुल उत्पादन में सिर्फ १४% हिसा देती हे

Aaapne bilkul sahi baat kahi ki Kheti ab labhdayak vyavsay nahin raha. Yah baat chhote aur majhale darje ke kastakaron pe to puri tarah lagu ho rahi hai.

vicky84

June 25th, 2012, 04:21 AM

Aaapne bilkul sahi baat kahi ki Kheti ab labhdayak vyavsay nahin raha. Yah baat chhote aur majhale darje ke kastakaron pe to puri tarah lagu ho rahi hai.

Watched Satyamev Jayate yesterday. Amir Khan discussed about the uncontrolled use of pesticide in agriculture and its effect on the health of humans. He cited example of farmers in Punjab where agricultural produce has become very toxic. Health of people in Punjab is deteriorating and may be in whole nation. So Amir Khan insisted for organic farming.

In my personal opinion, the episode was fully sponsored by businesses engaged into organic farming. Middle class in India has the money and willing to spend on organic products. Businesses engaged into organic farming are trageting middle class. So I think there is a great opportunity for farmers to make the profits by opting for organic farming. Read in an article( almost a year back), organic products cost more than double the price and people are ready to spend. There is a growing demand in India as people are becoming more health conscious. So its a great opportunity for farmers to reap the benefits.

vicky84

June 25th, 2012, 04:54 AM

Watched Satyamev Jayate yesterday. Amir Khan discussed about the uncontrolled use of pesticide in agriculture and its effect on the health of humans. He cited example of farmers in Punjab where agricultural produce has become very toxic. Health of people in Punjab is deteriorating and may be in whole nation. So Amir Khan insisted for organic farming.

In my personal opinion, the episode was fully sponsored by businesses engaged into organic farming. Middle class in India has the money and willing to spend on organic products. Businesses engaged into organic farming are trageting middle class. So I think there is a great opportunity for farmers to make the profits by opting for organic farming. Read in an article( almost a year back), organic products cost more than double the price and people are ready to spend. There is a growing demand in India as people are becoming more health conscious. So its a great opportunity for farmers to reap the benefits.

Dead hands of Indian bureaucracy could ruin this business. Without reforms in the bureaucracy, I do not think any idea could sustain in India. Kick out inefficient public servants. No automated promotions. No stability. Remove paper shufflers from the government offices.

ygulia

June 25th, 2012, 07:01 AM

You are trying to divert the topic, Satyamev Jayate (yesterday) was on issue of organic agriculture and use of pesticides. Please do not beat around the bush........

Watched Satyamev Jayate yesterday. Amir Khan discussed about the uncontrolled use of pesticide in agriculture and its effect on the health of humans. He cited example of farmers in Punjab where agricultural produce has become very toxic. Health of people in Punjab is deteriorating and may be in whole nation. So Amir Khan insisted for organic farming.

In my personal opinion, the episode was fully sponsored by businesses engaged into organic farming. Middle class in India has the money and willing to spend on organic products. Businesses engaged into organic farming are trageting middle class. So I think there is a great opportunity for farmers to make the profits by opting for organic farming. Read in an article( almost a year back), organic products cost more than double the price and people are ready to spend. There is a growing demand in India as people are becoming more health conscious. So its a great opportunity for farmers to reap the benefits.

ygulia

June 25th, 2012, 07:04 AM

The shortest and easiest answer is to blame the bureacracy and politicians. You are also part of it because you elected the people who govern these bureaucrats...........then who is the real culprit????????????

Dead hands of Indian bureaucracy could ruin this business. Without reforms in the bureaucracy, I do not think any idea could sustain in India. Kick out inefficient public servants. No automated promotions. No stability. Remove paper shufflers from the government offices.

vicky84

June 25th, 2012, 07:15 AM

I am not shooting the breeze. I wrote that post because its relevant to this thread. Kindly read this thread and understand what we are discussing here. Do not jump to your conclusion without reading what we are discussing here.

You are trying to divert the topic, Satyamev Jayate (yesterday) was on issue of organic agriculture and use of pesticides. Please do not beat around the bush........

vicky84

June 25th, 2012, 07:22 AM

So many businesses complain about arrogant, corrupt and lethargic bureaucracy. I remember in other thread, you were praising inefficient public servants(Indian Judicial System). It is quite evident that how much damage these people are doing to the country. Job security, automated promotion for no reason. No developed country in the world give such perks to the public servants.

The shortest and easiest answer is to blame the bureacracy and politicians. You are also part of it because you elected the people who govern these bureaucrats...........then who is the real culprit????????????

VikrantChodhary

July 1st, 2012, 12:08 PM

Farmer can be uplifted if instead of all subsidies.........on bijli bill , diesel , urea , taxes etc.......

By declaring 'Farming' as GOVERNMENT JOB.

Construct a COMMISSION comprising of 100 Members of Parliament* who will supervise.
(Those who won by defeating their rivals by above 25% of votes or any other such criteria but above political party lines)

Farmer will work in their fields as usual but produce will be wholly of Government-of-India.
Farmer will be paid salary (monthly) as per slab like....grade pay of 4200 for owners upto 2 acres......grade pay of 4800 for owners upto 2 to 5 acres & likewise

TAXES will be deducted as per salaried persons. There will be no SUBSIDY on any item.........Mainly DIESEL.........Electric Bills ...........Irrigation WATER.

PRODUCTION will be supervised by panel of farmers themselves - An Elected body at Village Level.

rameshlakra

July 1st, 2012, 09:41 PM

Good idea .....

Farmer can be uplifted if instead of all subsidies.........on bijli bill , diesel , urea , taxes etc.......

By declaring 'Farming' as GOVERNMENT JOB.

Construct a COMMISSION comprising of 100 Members of Parliament* who will supervise.
(Those who won by defeating their rivals by above 25% of votes or any other such criteria but above political party lines)

Farmer will work in their fields as usual but produce will be wholly of Government-of-India.
Farmer will be paid salary (monthly) as per slab like....grade pay of 4200 for owners upto 2 acres......grade pay of 4800 for owners upto 2 to 5 acres & likewise

TAXES will be deducted as per salaried persons. There will be no SUBSIDY on any item.........Mainly DIESEL.........Electric Bills ...........Irrigation WATER.

PRODUCTION will be supervised by panel of farmers themselves - An Elected body at Village Level.

sunillore

July 1st, 2012, 11:37 PM

45 panne ki report hai aake padh lena

Waise inspite of selling raw produce farmer should add values to his produce like
Selling Pickles
Oat meal
Bakery products
Rice products (Papad etc.)

Problem is most of farmers are not working they are getting everything done by labour.
Life standard is improved and farming is treated as a blue collar job.
Most of our young farmers rub almond oil in their hairs, kick their bikes and take round of village while chasing girls.

A lot of things are needed to be changed and this can be done by making farming a lucrative profession by adding little value to your produce you can earn many fold profits.

Go for organic farming declare your produce is organic and sell it on highways like people sell guava make nice beautiful kiosks and people will buy. No body stops you to do that but it is scorching sun.

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