Some nice thoughts...

[urmiladuhan]

“To learn more about science, turn off your electronic device and go outside and look around a bit. Nature is calling you. Go on. The internet will still be here.”
— Neil deGrasse Tyson

[urmiladuhan]

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=586592794734246&set=a.138766666183530.25347.138763606183836&type=1&relevant_count=1&ref=nf

It says: "give with no expectations"

[DrRajpalSingh]

Do good and forget !!!!!

[Prikshit]

Don't suffer before actual suffering

[urmiladuhan]

Do good and forget !!!!!

We always get the reward for doing something nice - the first and foremost being a good internal feeling, I think.

[Prikshit]

The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it but what they become by it.

[urmiladuhan]

The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it but what they become by it.

Very well said.

[urmiladuhan]

“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime.”
― Mark Twain, The Innocents Abroad/Roughing It
....................

I love to travel and meet/see interesting people/places and things.

[inderjeetsngh09]

"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".

[inderjeetsngh09]

I am thankful for all of those who said "NO" to me. Its because of them I’m doing it myself.

[inderjeetsngh09]

Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.

[urmiladuhan]

I am reminded this is an Albert Einstein quote :)


"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".

[urmiladuhan]

Great attitude I must say :)



I am thankful for all of those who said "NO" to me. Its because of them I’m doing it myself.

[urmiladuhan]

Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.

I don't think I agree with this one. There are empathetic people called friends :)

[urmiladuhan]

The purpose of life is to leave it in a better state than what one found it to be in. - Urmila Duhan.

[inderjeetsngh09]

Well, everyone in this world is not the same and people differ from one to another. However; the above mentioned statement can just not be lay aside.

[rkumar]

“To learn more about science, turn off your electronic device and go outside and look around a bit. Nature is calling you. Go on. The internet will still be here.”
— Neil deGrasse Tyson

Nature is the biggest science laboratory. Newton got his ideas while watching falling apples and Raman got it watching blue color of ocean water. Indian philosophers had been talking of mass-energy concept muc before Einstein. Most of the medicines were discovered while watching wild animals and plants. In act lot can be understood even looking inwards. Our own body and thought process is also a big laboratory. We have to just learn how to perceive our finer senses. Lot can be learned from the feedback process between our body and thought process.

RK^2

[rkumar]

The highest reward for a person's toil is not what they get for it but what they become by it.

Becoming is getting.

RK^2

[rkumar]

The purpose of life is to leave it in a better state than what one found it to be in. - Urmila Duhan.

What is better state is the most difficult question. Any thoughts on how to define it ?

RK^2

[rkumar]

Do good and forget !!!!!

How to do it ? Any simple method ?

RK^2

[rkumar]

Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.

Ever thought why it is so and how to reach to a level to do so ? By the way a good part of answer is in your own quote; "I am thankful for all of those who said "NO" to me. Its because of them I’m doing it myself."
RK^2

[rkumar]

“............I love to travel and meet/see interesting people/places and things.

My observation is; " Every person, every living being is unique and interesting and so is every place". Issue is to cultivate our senses to the level that everything starts looking interesting. I have posted a video under another thread on Jatland. I am posting it here again. Watch the faces of people in the video how interesting they look. Every face tells a story;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHsLlLZiHgM

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Nature is the biggest science laboratory. Newton got his ideas while watching falling apples and Raman got it watching blue color of ocean water. Indian philosophers had been talking of mass-energy concept muc before Einstein. Most of the medicines were discovered while watching wild animals and plants. In act lot can be understood even looking inwards. Our own body and thought process is also a big laboratory. We have to just learn how to perceive our finer senses. Lot can be learned from the feedback process between our body and thought process.

RK^2

I suppose this is what meditation is about.

[urmiladuhan]

I suppose, be the change you want to see. That, I suppose, is a better state.


What is better state is the most difficult question. Any thoughts on how to define it ?

RK^2

[rkumar]

I suppose, be the change you want to see. That, I suppose, is a better state.

As we know, such topics can lead to almost unending debates. This has been debated all through history by philosophers and other thinkers. As expected there is no unique answer. The reason is that there is no situation in life which can be defined by a linear mathematical equation. Even simplest situations have multiple variables and therefore a polynomial equation. In most cases there are no exact solutions. One gets multiple approximate solutions to all such equations.

When one talks of change, simplest possible model one can think of is the person himself and his surroundings. Surrounding and self, both are dynamic variables. It is next to impossible to solve such problems without simplifications and approximations. This is where the understanding comes into play. One has to know about self and surrounding both. Ideal would be to look for a solution which is surrounding independent and this is what a Yogi aspires for. He gives up everything or choses a life path which is independent of surroundings. Lesser yogis try to optimize their life by removing parts of surroundings.

I feel for scientifically and mathematically minded people it should by much easier to understand and then find an optimum state. In my view an ideal state would be the most stable state. Most stable states are the one which have lowest energy levels and which indirectly translates to cutting down the effects of surroundings on one's life.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Fabulous answer! Rajendra ji, you are very learned in my humble opinion :)


As we know, such topics can lead to almost unending debates. This has been debated all through history by philosophers and other thinkers. As expected there is no unique answer. The reason is that there is no situation in life which can be defined by a linear mathematical equation. Even simplest situations have multiple variables and therefore a polynomial equation. In most cases there are no exact solutions. One gets multiple approximate solutions to all such equations.

When one talks of change, simplest possible model one can think of is the person himself and his surroundings. Surrounding and self, both are dynamic variables. It is next to impossible to solve such problems without simplifications and approximations. This is where the understanding comes into play. One has to know about self and surrounding both. Ideal would be to look for a solution which is surrounding independent and this is what a Yogi aspires for. He gives up everything or choses a life path which is independent of surroundings. Lesser yogis try to optimize their life by removing parts of surroundings.

I feel for scientifically and mathematically minded people it should by much easier to understand and then find an optimum state. In my view an ideal state would be the most stable state. Most stable states are the one which have lowest energy levels and which indirectly translates to cutting down the effects of surroundings on one's life.

RK^2

[rkumar]

Fabulous answer! Rajendra ji, you are very learned in my humble opinion :)

Thank you very much for the compliments. I would call it more like an experienced driver who knows the condition of his car, the road , type of traffic expected and the distance to be travelled. Being a student of science, I try to model my day to day issues. Almost every situation in life can be compared to a concept in science. Let me share one very interesting concept of computer science which I adopted many years back in my daily life. In a computer we have an accumulator and a processor. Accumulator keeps track of events in processor. Some how I learned to divide my brain into two parts on the same concept. Small part of my brain just tracks what is going on in my brain. This way I can very distinctly identify the moments responsible for my being high or low and the associated causes. This concept has been a great navigational tool for me.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Thank you very much for the compliments. I would call it more like an experienced driver who knows the condition of his car, the road , type of traffic expected and the distance to be travelled. Being a student of science, I try to model my day to day issues. Almost every situation in life can be compared to a concept in science. Let me share one very interesting concept of computer science which I adopted many years back in my daily life. In a computer we have an accumulator and a processor. Accumulator keeps track of events in processor. Some how I learned to divide my brain into two parts on the same concept. Small part of my brain just tracks what is going on in my brain. This way I can very distinctly identify the moments responsible for my being high or low and the associated causes. This concept has been a great navigational tool for me.

RK^2

I think I am familiar with the specifically underlined experience :). Very helpful, I must say, to have this kind of understanding about oneself.

[rkumar]

Relationships are like books. Some are for one time reading, some for just title reading, some to be avoided, some for rereading, some for reading, understanding and then analyzing, only few are sacred like Geeta, Quran and Guru Garanth Sahib. As we grow older, we are left with only last category of relationsips.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Did you write this quote, kumar ji? It is indeed very profound in meaning.


Relationships are like books. Some are for one time reading, some for just title reading, some to be avoided, some for rereading, some for reading, understanding and then analyzing, only few are sacred like Geeta, Quran and Guru Garanth Sahib. As we grow older, we are left with only last category of relationsips.

RK^2

[rkumar]

Did you write this quote, kumar ji? It is indeed very profound in meaning.

This I wrote with my own personal experience.

RK^2

[Samarkadian]

''People are only honest, when they are pissed off.''

[rkumar]

''People are only honest, when they are pissed off.''

that's a good one.. We should ensure that our politicians are always pissed off.....lol

RK^2

[soniadabas]

No matter how bad someone treats you, never drop to there level, just know that you are better and walk away.

[Prikshit]

No matter how bad someone treats you, never drop to there level, just know that you are better and walk away. To add to it "They will beat you with their experience" so better avoid that.

[rkumar]

No matter how bad someone treats you, never drop to there level, just know that you are better and walk away.

I will apply this only selectively and not universally as every case is different. Walking away from such people all the time is not the best solution.

RK^2

[desijat]

I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.

Mahatma Gandhi

And this can be applied to today's crusaders of any religion

[urmiladuhan]

No matter how bad someone treats you, never drop to there level, just know that you are better and walk away.

That requires high level of understanding about what is going on, I suppose.

[urmiladuhan]

"Do not judge each day by what you reap, but judge by the seeds you plant". - Robert Louis Stevenson.

[rkumar]

"Do not judge each day by what you reap, but judge by the seeds you plant". - Robert Louis Stevenson.

Watch the soil before you plant the seeds.

RK^2

[rkumar]

Seeds of life are everywhere in universe. It takes a Earth like planet to bring them to full bloom. .. (RK)

RK^2

[Prikshit]

Seeds of life are everywhere in universe. It takes a Earth like planet to bring them to full bloom. .. (RK)

RK^2
Too good !!!!!

[desijat]

It seemed the world was divided into good and bad people. The good ones slept better while the bad ones seemed to enjoy the waking hours much more.
Woody Allen

[rkumar]

It seemed the world was divided into good and bad people. The good ones slept better while the bad ones seemed to enjoy the waking hours much more.
Woody Allen

Sounds like a film dialogue without any depth.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Any practical example that fits the quote? Please share your wisdom :)



Watch the soil before you plant the seeds.

RK^2

[Samarkadian]

''Some days you are the pigeon and some days you are the statue.'' - Dilbert


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[desijat]

I have often found film dialogues to make very good quotes which inspire one beyond the regular ones. e.g.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmicfGmQZ9s

Sounds like a film dialogue without any depth.

RK^2

[rkumar]

Any practical example that fits the quote? Please share your wisdom :)

Like seeds are to the soil, thoughts/ ideas are to the human being. Seeds/ thoughts/ideas can not be implanted without preparing the soil/ person. Then one has to give due consideration to the climate/ environment also for the seed/ thought/ idea to germinate and then gloom into a plant/ personality. It matters a great deal when , where and how you throw the seed/ idea/thought. Same idea/thought implanted in two different persons living in different environments can lead to very different and often conflicting results. How far the person implanting the thought/ idea supervises also matters a great deal. Its a very interesting topic and can be expanded to any extent. There is a very interesting story which was taught to us in our Sanskrit book;

" Four Brahmin boys went to Kashi for their education. They were taught the technique of bringing back the dead to life again. After their education they were returning home through the jungle where they saw the bones of some dead animal. They decided to test their skill on the dead animal's bones. As they were proceeding, they realized that its going to be lion. One of them asked to stop there as lion might kill them. Three did not agree as they wanted to complete the experiment to the last stage. The intelligent Brahmin boy told them to hold on till he climbed the tree. As expected, lion came t life and killed all the three on the ground"

Moral of the story is that same seed/ thought/ idea implanted in different people can bring very different results.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Please allow me to share my take: every person may not be able to get the essence of education given to them. Some may blossom beautifully and become better people because of it while others may not be able to make much stride in life. Therefore it is up to the teacher to select appropriate students for a class as all and everybody may not be up to it. I hope I am making some sense at least :)




Any practical example that fits the quote? Please share your wisdom :)

[urmiladuhan]

]Seeds of life are everywhere in universe. It takes a Earth like planet to bring them to full bloom. .. (RK)[/B]

RK^2
I am not sure scientifically it can be said that seeds (i.e., DNA) are every where.

[rkumar]

I am not sure scientifically it can be said that seeds (i.e., DNA) are every where.

I was student of Astrophysics for a year or so. During this period I got exposed to many interesting things and one was "Origin of Life". Without getting into too many details, I am posting the links below which will give some idea of the subject;

1. http://www.kurzweilai.net/dna-and-amino-acid-precursor-molecules-discovered-in-interstellar-space
2. http://www.springer.com/earth+sciences+and+geography/geophysics/book/978-0-7923-4597-8
3. http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/latest-news/publication-of-the-week-professor-chandra-wickramasinghe-4/

There are quite a few books on the subject.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

Interesting stuff. One of the links mentions that origin of life may not be terrestrial as on earth and this possibility should be included when analysing clues of extra terrestrial life. I suppose these days telescopes come fitted with radio wave analysers as another link mentions. Interesting stuff indeed.




I was student of Astrophysics for a year or so. During this period I got exposed to many interesting things and one was "Origin of Life". Without getting into too many details, I am posting the links below which will give some idea of the subject;

1. http://www.kurzweilai.net/dna-and-amino-acid-precursor-molecules-discovered-in-interstellar-space
2. http://www.springer.com/earth+sciences+and+geography/geophysics/book/978-0-7923-4597-8
3. http://www.buckingham.ac.uk/latest-news/publication-of-the-week-professor-chandra-wickramasinghe-4/

There are quite a few books on the subject.

RK^2

[rkumar]

Interesting stuff. One of the links mentions that origin of life may not be terrestrial as on earth and this possibility should be included when analysing clues of extra terrestrial life. I suppose these days telescopes come fitted with radio wave analysers as another link mentions. Interesting stuff indeed.

In my view we understand very little about the early formation of life on Earth. Life might have evolved on Earth for sure, but basic building block biomolecules were trapped from outer space. Many of the bacteria found in ocean sediments are found in the interstellar dust as well.

http://news.discovery.com/space/astronomy/ocean-bacteria-hint-at-an-ancient-supernova-130514.htm

Whole Darwin theory is going to fall flat on its face sooner or later.

RK^2

[urmiladuhan]

In my view we understand very little about the early formation of life on Earth. Life might have evolved on Earth for sure, but basic building block biomolecules were trapped from outer space. Many of the bacteria found in ocean sediments are found in the interstellar dust as well.

http://news.discovery.com/space/astronomy/ocean-bacteria-hint-at-an-ancient-supernova-130514.htm

Whole Darwin theory is going to fall flat on its face sooner or later.

RK^2

It is just a theory albeit it appears to be true in some cases. Whether it is universal, only time will tell.

[singhvp]

“To learn more about science, turn off your electronic device and go outside and look around a bit. Nature is calling you. Go on. The internet will still be here.”
— Neil deGrasse Tyson
Tyson साहब भोत स्याणा माणस था/है, 4 G कनेक्सन आण तैं पह्ल्याँ बता दिया कि इसका नेटवर्क खेत मै भी काम करैगा I

[inderjeetsngh09]

Is it true ?


No matter how bad someone treats you, never drop to there level, just know that you are better and walk away.

[urmiladuhan]

Is it true ?

I suppose, sometimes it is true :)

[rkumar]

It seemed the world was divided into good and bad people. The good ones slept better while the bad ones seemed to enjoy the waking hours much more.
Woody Allen

This Woody Allan refused to release his film Blue Jasmine in India because of some censorship requirements on smoking.

http://health.india.com/diseases-conditions/indian-cancer-surgeons-open-letter-to-mr-woody-allen/

RK^2

[desijat]

I have seen the film, quite good
This Woody Allan refused to release his film Blue Jasmine in India because of some censorship requirements on smoking.

http://health.india.com/diseases-conditions/indian-cancer-surgeons-open-letter-to-mr-woody-allen/

RK^2

[inderjeetsngh09]

For Mr. Rkumar!

Sir, there is something that I would like to know only if you won't mind that how much of your time you generally spend on this website!
As I've seen plenty of your posts and you've also formed some of the groups on this website. :)

[rkumar]

For Mr. Rkumar!

Sir, there is something that I would like to know only if you won't mind that how much of your time you generally spend on this website!
As I've seen plenty of your posts and you've also formed some of the groups on this website. :)

I spend good amount of time surfing internet for the topics of my interest. This to me is like reading the books of my interest. Anything interesting I try to share with Jatland community. I have not formed any group on Jatland. I don't spend much time on other social media sites as I find them waste of time.

Now let me ask you a counter question if you wish to answer honestly? Did you find my presence on Jatland irritating that you asked me this question? Please try to answer as honestly as you can as that will help me a great deal to mend my approach.

RK^2

[inderjeetsngh09]

I spend good amount of time surfing internet for the topics of my interest. This to me is like reading the books of my interest. Anything interesting I try to share with Jatland community. I have not formed any group on Jatland. I don't spend much time on other social media sites as I find them waste of time.

Now let me ask you a counter question if you wish to answer honestly? Did you find my presence on Jatland irritating that you asked me this question? Please try to answer as honestly as you can as that will help me a great deal to mend my approach.



No Sir, Not at All!
I didn't mean that.

[desijat]

You really have not lived until you have done something for someone who can never repay you

[DrRajpalSingh]

Do good and forget !

[rkumar]

During last one year or so I have realized the following;

1. Of late western countries practice more leftist ideology than Russia and China.
2. Majority of educated people and intellectuals tend to be leftists than rightists and preach freebees.
3. Development is as much a political tool as keeping people backward.
4. Leaders of political parties are like Messiahs and talking anything against them becomes blasphemous for their supporters.
5. Most religious heads are nothing but extensions of one or the other political party.
6. Leftists and rightists are akin to Bear and Bull respectively in a stock market.

RK^2

[DrRajpalSingh]

During last one year or so I have realized the following;

1. Of late western countries practice more leftist ideology than Russia and China.
2. Majority of educated people and intellectuals tend to be leftists than rightists and preach freebees.
3. Development is as much a political tool as keeping people backward.
4. Leaders of political parties are like Messiahs and talking anything against them becomes blasphemous for their supporters.
5. Most religious heads are nothing but extensions of one or the other political party.
6. Leftists and rightists are akin to Bear and Bull respectively in a stock market.

RK^2

Nicely summed up !

[rkumar]

Some relations are like paintings. Though not of much practical use, but good for decorating the living rooms.

RK^2