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rkumar
September 12th, 2013, 05:28 AM
Name Kanishka is more common among Afghans even today than Indians. I was listening to speech by AB Vajpayee who mentioned about his experience of name Kanishka during a visit to Afghanistan. I then googled for the name and came across so many of them on LinkedIn;

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Kanishka/+/af-0-Afghanistan/

rsdalal
September 12th, 2013, 06:46 AM
Interesting, may be you can post the link to the speech as well if it worth.
Welcome back Kalkhande Sahab to JL after a long time


Name Kanishka is more common among Afghans even today than Indians. I was listening to speech by AB Vajpayee who mentioned about his experience of name Kanishka during a visit to Afghanistan. I then googled for the name and came across so many of them on LinkedIn;

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Kanishka/+/af-0-Afghanistan/

swaich
September 12th, 2013, 09:24 AM
Name Kanishka is more common among Afghans even today than Indians. I was listening to speech by AB Vajpayee who mentioned about his experience of name Kanishka during a visit to Afghanistan. I then googled for the name and came across so many of them on LinkedIn;

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Kanishka/+/af-0-Afghanistan/


I did the same and I found more Indians than Afghans. Though Kanishka and the Kushans must have had strong connections with Afghanistan, I think not many current day Afghans would be called Kanishka due to it being a non-Islamic name.

urmiladuhan
September 12th, 2013, 10:20 AM
Interesting.


Name Kanishka is more common among Afghans even today than Indians. I was listening to speech by AB Vajpayee who mentioned about his experience of name Kanishka during a visit to Afghanistan. I then googled for the name and came across so many of them on LinkedIn;

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Kanishka/+/af-0-Afghanistan/

rkumar
September 12th, 2013, 07:51 PM
How about Damyanti of Nal Damyani fame, Urmila of Lakshman Urmila ( & ofcourse Urmila Duhan) fame ? Here is a Damyanti and a Urmila from Afghanistan;

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authToken=-bKA&authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_244143987_*1_*1_name_*5bKA_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1 _*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=in_ID&id=244143987
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_128987099_*1_*1_name_D69k_*1_*1_*1_* 1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=en_US&id=128987099&authToken=D69k

Hope to fnd more of such names and post here

RK^2

DrRajpalSingh
September 15th, 2013, 07:00 PM
How about Damyanti of Nal Damyani fame, Urmila of Lakshman Urmila ( & ofcourse Urmila Duhan) fame ? Here is a Damyanti and a Urmila from Afghanistan;

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authToken=-bKA&authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_244143987_*1_*1_name_*5bKA_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1 _*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=in_ID&id=244143987
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_128987099_*1_*1_name_D69k_*1_*1_*1_* 1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=en_US&id=128987099&authToken=D69k

Hope to fnd more of such names and post here

RK^2

Kumar Sahib,

Are the names mentioned in the post under reference have some connection with Kanishaka or not ?

Thanks.

urmiladuhan
September 15th, 2013, 07:30 PM
:).

There is lake Urmia (rhyming with my name Urmila) on the border of Iran and Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Urmia

How about Damyanti of Nal Damyani fame, Urmila of Lakshman Urmila ( & ofcourse Urmila Duhan) fame ? Here is a Damyanti and a Urmila from Afghanistan;

http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authToken=-bKA&authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_244143987_*1_*1_name_*5bKA_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1 _*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=in_ID&id=244143987
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/view?authType=name&goback=%2Enpv_128987099_*1_*1_name_D69k_*1_*1_*1_* 1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_ *1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1_*1&locale=en_US&id=128987099&authToken=D69k

Hope to fnd more of such names and post here

RK^2

rkumar
September 15th, 2013, 09:46 PM
:).

There is lake Urmia (rhyming with my name Urmila) on the border of Iran and Turkey.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Urmia

Interesting. History section of the link quoted by you mentions; " One of the early mentions of Lake Urmia is from the Assyrian records from 9th century BCE. There, in the records of Shalmaneser III (reign 858–824 BCE), two names are mentioned in the area of Lake Urmia: Parsuwash and Matai. It is not completely clear whether these referred to places or tribes or what their relationship was to the subsequent list of personal names and "kings". But Matais were Medes and linguistically the name Parsuwash matches the Old Persian word pārsa". Words Shalmaneser and Parsuwash attracted my attention. Shalmaneser sounds like our Maneser and Parsuwash might have some correlation wit Parsuram. May be name Persia for Iran has its origin in name Persuwash and Parsuram.

RK^2

DrRajpalSingh
October 27th, 2013, 07:34 AM
Has someone something more to add on Kanishka, the theme of the thread.

Thanks and regards

vdhillon
October 27th, 2013, 10:05 AM
@DrRajpalSingh
Doc, with due respect, I do not think the theme is limited to the KANISHKA alone, the essence of the thread is about similarities in the names in Afghanistan and India, despite religious differences. Kanishka is just being used an example for the elaboration.

@Rkumar: BTW, nice explanation sir jee. Thanks for sharing :)


Has someone something more to add on Kanishka, the theme of the thread.

Thanks and regards

dndeswal
October 27th, 2013, 02:11 PM
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Anita (अनीता) is a common name in Germany. This is also the name of the daughter of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose who had married a German girl during his stay there. Her profile can be seen on this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Bose_Pfaff

During my days in Russia, I found that some ladies had their name as Meera. In Russian language, the word Meera (or Mira) means "peace" (शान्ति). Such similarities in names are found everywhere. But in the case of Afghanistan, word Kanishka is so common because of our past connections.

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DrRajpalSingh
October 27th, 2013, 02:20 PM
@DrRajpalSingh
Doc, with due respect, I do not think the theme is limited to the KANISHKA alone, the essence of the thread is about similarities in the names in Afghanistan and India, despite religious differences. Kanishka is just being used an example for the elaboration.

@Rkumar: BTW, nice explanation sir jee. Thanks for sharing :)

Thanks now add something substantial to carry forward the discussion.

rkumar
October 27th, 2013, 07:02 PM
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Anita (अनीता) is a common name in Germany. This is also the name of the daughter of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose who had married a German girl during his stay there. Her profile can be seen on this page - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anita_Bose_Pfaff

During my days in Russia, I found that some ladies had their name as Meera. In Russian language, the word Meera (or Mira) means "peace" (शान्ति). Such similarities in names are found everywhere. But in the case of Afghanistan, word Kanishka is so common because of our past connections.

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Anita is a very common name among Christians world over. Meera is an interesting name and even Muslims in Pakistan use it. Meera is a well known Pakistani actress.

RK^2

rkumar
October 29th, 2013, 09:38 PM
How about these "Tomars" from Turki "

1. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/barbaros-tomar/55/7b9/7a3
2. http://www.touchtalent.com/artist/63669/mehmet-tomar

RK^2

DrRajpalSingh
October 30th, 2013, 07:09 AM
How about these "Tomars" from Turki "

1. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/barbaros-tomar/55/7b9/7a3
2. http://www.touchtalent.com/artist/63669/mehmet-tomar

RK^2

For Kind attention of Wiki Editors.

urmiladuhan
November 4th, 2013, 03:03 PM
Interesting. History section of the link quoted by you mentions; " One of the early mentions of Lake Urmia is from the Assyrian records from 9th century BCE. There, in the records of Shalmaneser III (reign 858–824 BCE), two names are mentioned in the area of Lake Urmia: Parsuwash and Matai. It is not completely clear whether these referred to places or tribes or what their relationship was to the subsequent list of personal names and "kings". But Matais were Medes and linguistically the name Parsuwash matches the Old Persian word pārsa". Words Shalmaneser and Parsuwash attracted my attention. Shalmaneser sounds like our Maneser and Parsuwash might have some correlation wit Parsuram. May be name Persia for Iran has its origin in name Persuwash and Parsuram.

RK^2

You mean records assigned to 9 B.C.E and not necessarily created in 9 B.C.E. As far as I know, there are no deciphered script records from anywhere in the world that are that old.

urmiladuhan
November 4th, 2013, 03:04 PM
Interesting. History section of the link quoted by you mentions; " One of the early mentions of Lake Urmia is from the Assyrian records from 9th century BCE. There, in the records of Shalmaneser III (reign 858�824 BCE), two names are mentioned in the area of Lake Urmia: Parsuwash and Matai. It is not completely clear whether these referred to places or tribes or what their relationship was to the subsequent list of personal names and "kings". But Matais were Medes and linguistically the name Parsuwash matches the Old Persian word pārsa". Words Shalmaneser and Parsuwash attracted my attention. Shalmaneser sounds like our Maneser and Parsuwash might have some correlation wit Parsuram. May be name Persia for Iran has its origin in name Persuwash and Parsuram.

RK^2

You mean records assigned to 9 B.C.E and not necessarily created in 9 B.C.E. As far as I know, there are no deciphered script records from anywhere in the world that are that old.

DrRajpalSingh
November 19th, 2013, 03:37 PM
You mean records assigned to 9 B.C.E and not necessarily created in 9 B.C.E. As far as I know, there are no deciphered script records from anywhere in the world that are that old.

There are many; for one example Edicts of Maurya Emperor Asoka.

urmiladuhan
November 20th, 2013, 09:29 AM
Kindly read 9 th century B.C.E instead of 9 B.C.E as also mentioned in the original post. Hope this removes the confusion.



There are many; for one example Edicts of Maurya Emperor Asoka.

DrRajpalSingh
November 20th, 2013, 04:24 PM
Kindly read 9 th century B.C.E instead of 9 B.C.E as also mentioned in the original post. Hope this removes the confusion.

Some older than this dateline records of ancient 'Aryan kings' have been deciphered in Asian countries where names of some gods sworn by the kings signing the agreement have come to light. Exact dateline of these and Bogze Kooie inscriptions would be shared after their exact verification !

urmiladuhan
November 21st, 2013, 02:07 PM
I disagree.
Perhaps you can start a new thread on the topic for further discussion.



Some older than this dateline records of ancient 'Aryan kings' have been deciphered in Asian countries where names of some gods sworn by the kings signing the agreement have come to light. Exact dateline of these and Bogze Kooie inscriptions would be shared after their exact verification !

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 06:16 PM
I disagree.
Perhaps you can start a new thread on the topic for further discussion.

Any reason for disagreement and logic for opening new thread please !

Thanks and regards,

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 07:45 PM
I disagree.
Perhaps you can start a new thread on the topic for further discussion.

For older inscriptions, some links are:

http://www.livescience.com/38079-canaanite-inscription-found-near-temple-mount.html

http://www.cais-soas.com/News/2007/November2007/05-11.htm

http://members.bib-arch.org/publication.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=36&Issue=02&ArticleID=09

and there are many more.

thanks

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 07:51 PM
Some older than this dateline records of ancient 'Aryan kings' have been deciphered in Asian countries where names of some gods sworn by the kings signing the agreement have come to light. Exact dateline of these and Bogze Kooie inscriptions would be shared after their exact verification !

For example see the below description:

.Boghaz-keui Inscriptions [1360 B C] record a treaty between the Hittite king and the Mitanni king who was defeated in a battle. The Mitanni gods [Indra, Uruwna or Aruna, Miittra, Nasaattiia] alongwith Babylonian deities are invoked to protecgt the treaty. There is another document from Bogha-keui which deals with horse breeding manual and contains a series of Aryan numerals-aika, teras, panzas, satta, nav. It may be noted that the words do not exhibit the changes which distinguish Iranians from the Indian forms, indicating that the words were borrowed either from the Indians or from their ancestors before bifurcation into Indians and Iranians.

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 07:53 PM
Still another older than the Boghaz keui inscription reads:

2. Tel-el-Amarna tablets [c. 1460 B.C.] refer to the rulers among the Mitanni on the Upper Euphrates who bore names like Atatama, Suttarna, Dusratta, which are Aryan.

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 07:55 PM
Still another older than the Boghaz keui inscription reads:

2. Tel-el-Amarna tablets [c. 1460 B.C.] refer to the rulers among the Mitanni on the Upper Euphrates who bore names like Atatama, Suttarna, Dusratta, which are Aryan.

The oldest of the three is :

Kassite Documents [c. 1760 B.C.] which shows names of Indo-Aryan dieties like Surias, Marutas, Bugas.
Moreover, it is found that these Kassites introduced the use of horse for drawing the chariots in Babylonia.

DrRajpalSingh
November 21st, 2013, 08:05 PM
A 3000 B.C. inscription reported from Israel:

http://www.nbcnews.com/science/inscription-dates-back-king-david-what-does-it-say-6C10593636

Yes, it is yet to be read.

urmiladuhan
November 21st, 2013, 08:58 PM
This is not the topic of the thread. I shall not reply to it in this thread.



For older inscriptions, some links are:

http://www.livescience.com/38079-canaanite-inscription-found-near-temple-mount.html

http://www.cais-soas.com/News/2007/November2007/05-11.htm

http://members.bib-arch.org/publication.asp?PubID=BSBA&Volume=36&Issue=02&ArticleID=09

and there are many more.

thanks

urmiladuhan
November 21st, 2013, 09:03 PM
Kindly read 9 th century B.C.E instead of 9 B.C.E as also mentioned in the original post. Hope this removes the confusion.

Typing error. The highlighted portion should be read as millenium.

DrRajpalSingh
November 22nd, 2013, 08:56 AM
Typing error. The highlighted portion should be read as millenium.

Thanks, The problem stands solved !