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maddhan1979
June 17th, 2014, 09:09 AM
Humans have come out of wild. There have been various phases starting from Hunters/food gatherers to organized Agriculturist. As all human activities heavily depended on nature, humans would create totems to recognize themselves. Besides that they heavily depended on animals to assist them to carry out their daily livelihood for this they domesticated or connected with different animals to carry out their daily activities often these animals formed totem for them to be recognized.

The very first humans were living in wild areas and were into pure hunting and food gathering from the wild.

So the progression goes something like this:

1. The very first Humans were into hunting and food gathering from wild: It has been proved in history that the first animal that humans domesticated was wolf. Humans who hunted with wolves or the very pure humans who were living in wild and depended on nature for food inform of hunting and food gathering recognized themselves with wolves and used the totem "wolf", as their recognition symbol, identity and totem. These were also the people of pure human instincts and origins.

2. The next progression of humans was in the form of animal domestication: The animals to be domesticated were sheep's, goats, so groups of people who moved out of "Hunting and food gathering", started rearing small animals. Sheep and goats were the main group of small animals that these people kept, this can be seen from the proliferation and extent of their spread. Where ever u look in ancient history or even in present day history, u find the concept of shepherds, which extends from the plains of central Asia to middle east and everywhere else. Such people recognized themselves with totem of sheep's, goats and other small animals, as their lives depended on such animals. As these animals were easy to domesticate and handle in human physical terms, they were the first to be domesticated.

As sheeps and goats and grazed over a vast area of land, often these sheep and goat grazing people will move the livestock in the middle of the night , they also used stars and moon for this navigation and these "Shepherds" were the root of "Moon and Star" totem, as moon and stars played an important role in their migration to newer grazing areas. This "Shephard root" carried on to "cattle rearing people", who carried the use of moon and star totems for migration and other purposes. Why i say "carried the use of moon and stars" because the start of these tribes was from hunting and gathering, then came shepherding and then came cattle rearing, all of these events happened as humans progressed from living life in jungles as hunters and gatherers to agriculturists. These shephard people will carry their rituals based on the location in space, size, shape of moon and stars. This can be seen from both Islam and Christianity. In Christianity we have "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem" and we know that Islam also follows the shape of "Moon" for the religious ceremonies.

Some, quality of sheep and goats made them successful for domestication by humans was their ability to graze in any kind of land from desert to lush green areas and their ability to breed prolifically. As in old times it was not possible to keep the wild predators away from the livestock, so humans depended on animals which breeded fast and provided them food at a fast pace.If we look at middle east there is always a talk of "Shepherds" from the very start of central Asian plains nomadic lifestyle to birth of Christ and beyond. There rarely mention of cows, people rearing cows and cattle herding.

3. The next progression of humans was in the form of domestication of bigger animals such as cows and other cattle. Some groups of people moved from domestication of sheep's, goats to cattle rearing. These people come late in history and their totem were cows and other cattle.

4. The next domestication was that of horses, which happened on the Eurasian plains.

5. In the last came the agriculture, domestication and use of Oxen and other agricultural animals.

It is probable that all these events happened on Eurasian plains which was also the cradle to IndoEuropean languages.


http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=1813&HistoryID=ab57&gtrack=pthc

So, the cow/cattle rearing and agriculture came very late in history and connects with "Fertile Crescent".

Domestication of Horses happened on central Asian plains, so the concept of "Han" might have started from the use and domestication of horses. This also relates with people and their movements, tribes which carried on the life of "Nomadic Shephards" lived on central Asian plains as their ancestors did and the tribes which used moved in middle east started rearing cattle and doing agriculture in later stages of history. This can be seen from the fact that the tribe "Mede" was still into "Shepherding" but moved to "North Western Iran in very late history". All the above stated facts have been archaeologically proven.

maddhan1979
June 17th, 2014, 09:30 AM
http://www.history.com/news/horse-domestication-happened-across-eurasia-study-shows

maddhan1979
June 18th, 2014, 08:34 AM
http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/plaintexthistories.asp?historyid=ab57

maddhan1979
June 19th, 2014, 06:12 AM
Humans have come out of wild. There have been various phases starting from Hunters/food gatherers to organized Agriculturist. As all human activities heavily depended on nature, humans would create totems to recognize themselves. Besides that they heavily depended on animals to assist them to carry out their daily livelihood for this they domesticated or connected with different animals to carry out their daily activities often these animals formed totem for them to be recognized.

The very first humans were living in wild areas and were into pure hunting and food gathering from the wild.

So the progression goes something like this:

1. The very first Humans were into hunting and food gathering from wild: It has been proved in history that the first animal that humans domesticated was wolf. Humans who hunted with wolves or the very pure humans who were living in wild and depended on nature for food inform of hunting and food gathering recognized themselves with wolves and used the totem "wolf", as their recognition symbol, identity and totem. These were also the people of pure human instincts and origins.

2. The next progression of humans was in the form of animal domestication: The animals to be domesticated were sheep's, goats, so groups of people who moved out of "Hunting and food gathering", started rearing small animals. Sheep and goats were the main group of small animals that these people kept, this can be seen from the proliferation and extent of their spread. Where ever u look in ancient history or even in present day history, u find the concept of shepherds, which extends from the plains of central Asia to middle east and everywhere else. Such people recognized themselves with totem of sheep's, goats and other small animals, as their lives depended on such animals. As these animals were easy to domesticate and handle in human physical terms, they were the first to be domesticated.

As sheeps and goats and grazed over a vast area of land, often these sheep and goat grazing people will move the livestock in the middle of the night , they also used stars and moon for this navigation and these "Shepherds" were the root of "Moon and Star" totem, as moon and stars played an important role in their migration to newer grazing areas. This "Shephard root" carried on to "cattle rearing people", who carried the use of moon and star totems for migration and other purposes. Why i say "carried the use of moon and stars" because the start of these tribes was from hunting and gathering, then came shepherding and then came cattle rearing, all of these events happened as humans progressed from living life in jungles as hunters and gatherers to agriculturists. These shephard people will carry their rituals based on the location in space, size, shape of moon and stars. This can be seen from both Islam and Christianity. In Christianity we have "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem" and we know that Islam also follows the shape of "Moon" for the religious ceremonies.

Some, quality of sheep and goats made them successful for domestication by humans was their ability to graze in any kind of land from desert to lush green areas and their ability to breed prolifically. As in old times it was not possible to keep the wild predators away from the livestock, so humans depended on animals which breeded fast and provided them food at a fast pace.If we look at middle east there is always a talk of "Shepherds" from the very start of central Asian plains nomadic lifestyle to birth of Christ and beyond. There rarely mention of cows, people rearing cows and cattle herding.

3. The next progression of humans was in the form of domestication of bigger animals such as cows and other cattle. Some groups of people moved from domestication of sheep's, goats to cattle rearing. These people come late in history and their totem were cows and other cattle.

4. The next domestication was that of horses, which happened on the Eurasian plains.

5. In the last came the agriculture, domestication and use of Oxen and other agricultural animals.

It is probable that all these events happened on Eurasian plains which was also the cradle to IndoEuropean languages.


http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=1813&HistoryID=ab57&gtrack=pthc

So, the cow/cattle rearing and agriculture came very late in history and connects with "Fertile Crescent".

Domestication of Horses happened on central Asian plains, so the concept of "Han" might have started from the use and domestication of horses. This also relates with people and their movements, tribes which carried on the life of "Nomadic Shephards" lived on central Asian plains as their ancestors did and the tribes which used moved in middle east started rearing cattle and doing agriculture in later stages of history. This can be seen from the fact that the tribe "Mede" was still into "Shepherding" but moved to "North Western Iran in very late history". All the above stated facts have been archaeologically proven.




http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/plaintexthistories.asp?historyid=ab57

maddhan1979
June 19th, 2014, 06:19 AM
Humans have come out of wild. There have been various phases starting from Hunters/food gatherers to organized Agriculturist. As all human activities heavily depended on nature, humans would create totems to recognize themselves. Besides that they heavily depended on animals to assist them to carry out their daily livelihood for this they domesticated or connected with different animals to carry out their daily activities often these animals formed totem for them to be recognized.

The very first humans were living in wild areas and were into pure hunting and food gathering from the wild.

So the progression goes something like this:

1. The very first Humans were into hunting and food gathering from wild: It has been proved in history that the first animal that humans domesticated was wolf. Humans who hunted with wolves or the very pure humans who were living in wild and depended on nature for food inform of hunting and food gathering recognized themselves with wolves and used the totem "wolf", as their recognition symbol, identity and totem. These were also the people of pure human instincts and origins.

2. The next progression of humans was in the form of animal domestication: The animals to be domesticated were sheep's, goats, so groups of people who moved out of "Hunting and food gathering", started rearing small animals. Sheep and goats were the main group of small animals that these people kept, this can be seen from the proliferation and extent of their spread. Where ever u look in ancient history or even in present day history, u find the concept of shepherds, which extends from the plains of central Asia to middle east and everywhere else. Such people recognized themselves with totem of sheep's, goats and other small animals, as their lives depended on such animals. As these animals were easy to domesticate and handle in human physical terms, they were the first to be domesticated.

As sheeps and goats and grazed over a vast area of land, often these sheep and goat grazing people will move the livestock in the middle of the night , they also used stars and moon for this navigation and these "Shepherds" were the root of "Moon and Star" totem, as moon and stars played an important role in their migration to newer grazing areas. This "Shephard root" carried on to "cattle rearing people", who carried the use of moon and star totems for migration and other purposes. Why i say "carried the use of moon and stars" because the start of these tribes was from hunting and gathering, then came shepherding and then came cattle rearing, all of these events happened as humans progressed from living life in jungles as hunters and gatherers to agriculturists. These shephard people will carry their rituals based on the location in space, size, shape of moon and stars. This can be seen from both Islam and Christianity. In Christianity we have "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_of_Bethlehem" and we know that Islam also follows the shape of "Moon" for the religious ceremonies.

Some, quality of sheep and goats made them successful for domestication by humans was their ability to graze in any kind of land from desert to lush green areas and their ability to breed prolifically. As in old times it was not possible to keep the wild predators away from the livestock, so humans depended on animals which breeded fast and provided them food at a fast pace.If we look at middle east there is always a talk of "Shepherds" from the very start of central Asian plains nomadic lifestyle to birth of Christ and beyond. There rarely mention of cows, people rearing cows and cattle herding.

3. The next progression of humans was in the form of domestication of bigger animals such as cows and other cattle. Some groups of people moved from domestication of sheep's, goats to cattle rearing. These people come late in history and their totem were cows and other cattle.

4. The next domestication was that of horses, which happened on the Eurasian plains.

5. In the last came the agriculture, domestication and use of Oxen and other agricultural animals.

It is probable that all these events happened on Eurasian plains which was also the cradle to IndoEuropean languages.


http://www.historyworld.net/wrldhis/PlainTextHistories.asp?groupid=1813&HistoryID=ab57&gtrack=pthc

So, the cow/cattle rearing and agriculture came very late in history and connects with "Fertile Crescent".

Domestication of Horses happened on central Asian plains, so the concept of "Han" might have started from the use and domestication of horses. This also relates with people and their movements, tribes which carried on the life of "Nomadic Shephards" lived on central Asian plains as their ancestors did and the tribes which used moved in middle east started rearing cattle and doing agriculture in later stages of history. This can be seen from the fact that the tribe "Mede" was still into "Shepherding" but moved to "North Western Iran in very late history". All the above stated facts have been archaeologically proven.


The concept of people identifying themselves with wolves or any other animal can be best seen by the example of people living in Jungles, who identify themselves with some animal like wolf or with some other animal. Most of the stories about life told by people living close to nature, are told in the form of animals, land, water, air, etc. Often people living close to nature will explain any event in life through natural forces and elements of nature.

DrRajpalSingh
June 27th, 2014, 09:12 AM
The concept of people identifying themselves with wolves or any other animal can be best seen by the example of people living in Jungles, who identify themselves with some animal like wolf or with some other animal. Most of the stories about life told by people living close to nature, are told in the form of animals, land, water, air, etc. Often people living close to nature will explain any event in life through natural forces and elements of nature.

Very interesting interpretation, kindly elaborate further the theme of the thread !