Happy with Moderator(s)???????

[Prikshit]

Hi All,

This thread is started so as to know how satisfied we are with our Moderators. Moderator's job is a thankless job we agree, but don't you think there are limitations to everything?

In recent past we have seen a no. of JLanders have issues with moderators, which is one main reason less participation. If one or two person have some issues then it is a different thing, but when large number of JL members have same kinda issues, then it should be addressed at earliest.

Suggestions from you all are required that what should be done so as to ensure that members as well as the moderators should not go out of their limits.

I have been a member here from last 4 years, never ever observed such skewed participation on Jatland.

There is a huge scope of introspection for all the members, including the Moderators.

PS: Please see this thread is started in positive sense, and their is nothing personal in it. Also, it is not meant to
doubt the integrity of Moderators who have been constantly nurturing this forum.

[ashe]

I Hardly Have idea about this moderator stuff.. going on..

But All I can .. See is that.. JL is almost dead !!! 0 Participation..

[Malikpriya]

I Hardly Have idea about this moderator stuff.. going on..

But All I can .. See is that.. JL is almost dead !!! 0 Participation..Main reason for the less (zero) pariticipation is that ........Naye baalka ka JL me interest ni h ar Puraane baalak biyahe thiyahe ho ge....;):tongue::cool:

[malikdeepak1]

Came back after a long time and saw no active participation from members who used to be heart and soul of most of the discussions, be it in General talk or in humor section. People like RavinderJeet, Anil Sangwan, Vivek Pannu, Atish Mohan, VP Singh, Kapil Dalal who always made discussions interesting are nowhere to be seen. Feeble participation from likes of Vipin and Satender. People are leaving JL for some reason or other. RavinderJeet bhaissab ki baat yaad aa rahi hai "Roj Gheeya ki sabji khaan ne milegi to log nyu e bhajenge". So this Gheeya ki sabji can be from Moderators side or from people among us. Time to put this gheeya aside and revive JL once again!

Note: Kise ka naam na likhya ho manne to bura na maniyo.. Kayi din piche aaya hu, to bhool-chook leni deni :)

[Prikshit]

One major reason for less participation as quoted by many is "Too much indulgence from Moderator". Now its moderator's call to decide how to go about it. Its high time this platform should be revived.

1. Some members ignored this and reduced their participation.
2. Some of the members refrained from visiting this site.
3. Some of them fought here sometime back.
4. Too much of this and that and content deletion has led to current situation.

PS: It is everybody's portal, not limited to specific users. Saying this as the fun which used to happen at JL is almost lost.

[ravinderjeet]

Aaj FB fe jikar horyaa thaa, ak nyu-nyu JL pe bot padann laagri sein, makhaa re haryane me te meri bot s koni par JL pe te ger saku su, ek saal paachhe aayaa su bot gerann ar ger di, aaj te ek baat kahungaa ak "baandar ke haath me talwaar pakdaa raakhi s".

[Prikshit]

Aaj FB fe jikar horyaa thaa, ak nyu-nyu JL pe bot padann laagri sein, makhaa re haryane me te meri bot s koni par JL pe te ger saku su, ek saal paachhe aayaa su bot gerann ar ger di, aaj te ek baat kahungaa ak "baandar ke haath me talwaar pakdaa raakhi s".
Welcome back, you were missed high time. I request all JLanders to kindly contact fellow Jlanders who are in their contact and ask them to be more active.

PS: Moderators please take a note of voting pattern and suggestions. It would be humble if things relevant to most of the members are addressed timely. Desh me ache din aa rhe hai, Jatland pe ache din laane ke liye sarkar badlo ya sarkar ka raviaya badlo. Inqlab bolne walo ko ban karna koi solution nhi hai.

[ravinderjeet]

Main reason for the less (zero) pariticipation is that ........Naye baalka ka JL me interest ni h ar Puraane baalak biyahe thiyahe ho ge....;):tongue::cool:

ha ha ha haamne beraa s priya tu purani hogi.

[Prikshit]

ha ha ha haamne beraa s priya tu purani hogi.
Ek time tha jab har member ek moderator tha, ar apne apne section ke thekedar tha aur manoranjan ki mauj si rha karti. Aajkal ulta ho rha hai, moderator member ho rhe hai and section khali pade reh se. Post se faltu thread ho gye hai.

PS: We want a limited moderation,pls note this is not on personal grounds for anyone. This platform is meant for uniting Jats and discuss anything under sun, fun etc.

[ravinderjeet]

bjp ne bhi saare buddhe theekaane bithaa diye .jl pe bhi nyu-a honnaa chaahiye. aur bhi kai post aai dekhi aaj ,ghane bande dukhi se musse tein. manne laagge s aaj saanjh taahin u taaggaa band ho legaa ar ke ghankhri post udaa de jaawengi,ar k fer mere barge te ben ho jaawnge,kadwi goli se ,khaa le ar kimme bachri ho te izzat bachaa le, oon manne ih maanas ke baare me "labhakk litraa" taage me likhaa thaa ,waa nyu ki nyu hoi.
'

[ravinderjeet]

Ek time tha jab har member ek moderator tha, ar apne apne section ke thekedar tha aur manoranjan ki mauj si rha karti. Aajkal ulta ho rha hai, moderator member ho rhe hai and section khali pade reh se. Post se faltu thread ho gye hai.

PS: We want a limited moderation,pls note this is not on personal grounds for anyone. This platform is meant for uniting Jats and discuss anything under sun, fun etc.

sahi baat likhi prixit, u maanas" aapne munh miyaan mithu" aapne taage chalaawe s ,aape jabaab dewe s ,koye like ni kardaa ,ar unn ne koyr ni padhdaa,fer bhi bhaande jaawe s .jyukar haraamad lugaai hoyaa kare saabat dan kaam ke laaggi dikhe jaawegi ar kare kimme koni.wo-a haal ih kaa s.

[Prikshit]

I don not approve of naming anyone.

But yes I would say Moderator ko Bilkul lakeer khich ke nhi chalna chahiye. Apne kam ke sath members ke concern address karte hue example set karne chahiye. Maine pehle bhi kayi bar kaha hai yahan koi seeng fasane ya personal hone nhi aata, na hi hona chahiye. Spirit of the platform should be maintained at all levels.

[ravinderjeet]

I don not approve of naming anyone.

But yes I would say Moderator ko Bilkul lakeer khich ke nhi chalna chahiye. Apne kam ke sath members ke concern address karte hue example set karne chahiye. Maine pehle bhi kayi bar kaha hai yahan koi seeng fasane ya personal hone nhi aata, 8na hi hona chahiye. Spirit of the platform should be maintained at all levels.

teri baat theek s prixit par aade issaa bandaa ek-a s ar wo s rajpal jhnggu.ih me naam lenn me koye buraai nahi ,uh ki aade risaai nahi.paachhle 6 saal me ghane saare mod. aaye gaye par issa maanas koni dekhyaa.itni bhundi kahye paachhe bhi aade chipat ryaa s ,ar koye sudhaar bhi koni ih bande me ,te kasutaa chiknaa ghadaa s. bhunde nu te bhundaa kahnaa chaahiye ,chaahe mori maanh ke kAHNAA PADE.

[Prikshit]

teri baat theek s prixit par aade issaa bandaa ek-a s ar wo s rajpal jhnggu.ih me naam lenn me koye buraai nahi ,uh ki aade risaai nahi.paachhle 6 saal me ghane saare mod. aaye gaye par issa maanas koni dekhyaa.itni bhundi kahye paachhe bhi aade chipat ryaa s ,ar koye sudhaar bhi koni ih bande me ,te kasutaa chiknaa ghadaa s. bhunde nu te bhundaa kahnaa chaahiye ,chaahe mori maanh ke kAHNAA PADE.

Mere saare Jlanders se anurodh hai ki yahan participation me kami na aane de.

Frankly speaking this is a complete platform, GK achi hoti hai, politics ka poora gyan mil jaye, movie se leke badiya kitab ka bera patt ja se. Kochi te leke california tayi ka bera patt ja se. Gham guhand ar apne origin ka bera patt ja se. Shero-sharayi te tuqlagi farmaan bera patt ja se. Job portal se leke govt openings ka bera patt ja se.
Matrimonial te leke mughali saasan ka bera patt ja se.

Jio aur jeene do sab pe apply hota hai. Change is the only constant. So sabhi members thoda bahut change karle to overhaul ki jarurat nhi hai.

Sabse request hai apne apne section to punah jeevet kare, participation ko kam na hone de.

[ssgoyat]

sahi baat likhi prixit, u maanas" aapne munh miyaan mithu" aapne taage chalaawe s ,aape jabaab dewe s ,koye like ni kardaa ,ar unn ne koyr ni padhdaa,fer bhi bhaande jaawe s .jyukar haraamad lugaai hoyaa kare saabat dan kaam ke laaggi dikhe jaawegi ar kare kimme koni.wo-a haal ih kaa s.

म्*नने एक बात भोत भुंडी लाग्या करे मॉडारेटर ब्रदर की, कोए हो खबर अख़बार मे पढ़ के आढे चेप दे सें, नया तागा चलान के लमबर बटोरण ताही..... अक इसपे अपने विचार व्यक्त करो

कोए न्यू केहन आला हो अक अख़बार सारे पढ़े से आढे, जिनके जवाब/विचार व्यक्त करना उस न्यूज़ वेबसाइट के फोरम पर प्रकट करना ज्यादा व्यवहारिक लगेगा। जो की नीरस ही प्रतीत होती हैं जॅटलॅंड के संदर्भ मे
कोए जाट-लैंड (पंजाब, हरयाणा, राजस्थान, पश्चिमी यू पी इत्यादि) की, अक जाटा की खबर हो, तब तो कीमे ताग्गा खोल्लन का मतलब भी बने।..बे फालतू की भसड़ ना मचाये.

In short: The essence of this website should not be diluted.

खासकर एड्मिशन नोटीस और रोजगार समाचार.... मेरे खयाल मे सिर्फ वही रोजगार पोस्ट किये जाने चाहिये जहां हम कुछ मदद कर सकें आपस मे, नहीं तो इन सब चीज़ों के लिये भातेरी "स्पेसिफिक" बढिया वेबसीटे हैं . और टार्गेट audience के पास जाट-लेंड के अलावा भी वेबसाइट खुलती हैं ..

अगर आपको बेमतलब की चीज़ों (इन जतलंड कॉंटेक्स्ट) के बारे मे जान ना है, तो आप गूगले का प्रयोग कर सकते हैं, बजाये यहाँ के मेंबरो से ही जान ने के बजाये .आप इसे लाइब्ररी/adhuri encyclopedia का मेनू ना बनाये .

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एक भाई इसने फेसबूक की ढाल किम्मे हो चेप के ने तागा खोल दे से, खामखा का ....

[ssgoyat]

वो तो आड़े प्रोफाइल डेलीट मारण का ऑपसन कोन्या, ना ते आड़े ३०-४० ते फालतू लोग ना बचे पावे जे न्यू ए हाल रहय तो ....

मॅट्रिमोनियल मे पोस्ट कारण आला की मजबूरी से , अक रेजिस्ट्रेशन करना पड़े से।. ज्याः ते मेंबर की संख्या बढ़ती दिक्खी जाया करे, और इसमे बड़ाई अली बात कोनी...

नरवाल, राका, पन्नू, रविंदेरजीत, ब्रह्*म तेवतिया, dnd देशवाल , अनिल संगवान इत्यादि जिसे आंडी मेम्बरान की भी जरूरत से दोबारा इस साइट ने रिवाइव कारण खात्तर....:livid:

[ravinderjeet]

ram ramAaj mai bhi bahut time k, baad koi post kar raha hu..waise to aab jatland dheelee ki nahi rahi..aaj tak mujhe ban kiya hua hai....pehle , re post moderator approve karega to wee post howenge....maaane apne vichaar rakhne ke liye kisso 2kodi ke moderator ki zaroort nahi hai..saale aanpadh log moderator bana rakhe hai...jihnee samajh mai koi jaaanta nahi..pher yee kaadee kaadee kuch zeyada hi secular wadi ban jaa hai n congresssi bhi..jatland to mere hisaab mai ibbbaand kar deni chahiye..phir kuch desijat jisse bowli poch se jo internet ki duniya ke behtaaz badshah hai n asal zindagi mai unhe kutta bhi koni jaaanta..maane jatland ye sooch ke join kari thi ke apne biradari ke logo se milna laga rahega..lekn yaha ke jaat milne se darte hai kaadee unki asliyat khool ja...aadee to saaaree apne app ne number 1batawee hai..baki jatland se kuch bahut ache dost bhi baane..


Cutejat sandeep ki bheji hod post s, uh pe ben laa raakhi s,pahlam musse dhore aprove karwaani pade s jyaan tein manne karni pade s, aur bhi sein we fer post karungaa

U uppar aalaa sandeshaa mere dhore aayaa s, cutejatsandeep kaa, uh pe post ben laa raakhi s,pahlam musse dhore aprove karwaani pade s jyaan tein ,


U uppar aalaa sandesh ,

[ravinderjeet]

वो तो आड़े प्रोफाइल डेलीट मारण का ऑपसन कोन्या, ना ते आड़े ३०-४० ते फालतू लोग ना बचे पावे जे न्यू ए हाल रहय तो ....

मॅट्रिमोनियल मे पोस्ट कारण आला की मजबूरी से , अक रेजिस्ट्रेशन करना पड़े से।. ज्याः ते मेंबर की संख्या बढ़ती दिक्खी जाया करे, और इसमे बड़ाई अली बात कोनी...

नरवाल, राका, पन्नू, रविंदेरजीत, ब्रह्*म तेवतिया, dnd देशवाल , अनिल संगवान इत्यादि जिसे आंडी मेम्बरान की भी जरूरत से दोबारा इस साइट ने रिवाइव कारण खात्तर....:livid:


Revive te jibb hovegi naa jibb u mussaa kimme likhann dewegaa

[ssgoyat]

Revive te jibb hovegi naa jibb u mussaa kimme likhann dewegaa

Inke dhore 10-12 akhbaar aur luvaa dyaa, (filhaal to "The tribune" ne tadke e gande ke chhollak ki dhaal choos ke baga de sein) ar ek-do library ki membership diva dya..... sara din use me ji lagya rehga..

ar ke fer koe chhora in ne inka khud ka blog likhna sikha dyo... ude bhaandi jaao fer aapni jaan me kimme bhi... koe rokkaniya-tokkaniya koni.... hude blog pe moderation laa do, reply karan alyaan ki :-)

jadd e raand kat sake se...

[sanjeev1984]

bahot din baad koi thread padhne mai maja aaya... :) saari 19 post padh li... laage raho....

eeb... 20 ;)

[ssgoyat]

ke fer in ne JL Matrimonial section ke moderator ka jimma lya dyaa.... ar usne paid section bana dya..50-50 rapiye ek faaram ke.
Unki degree, phottu, pehchaan pattar, umar, passport, visa, naukari parmaan pattar, incometax return, form 16 ityadi...... check kare pachche e unka faraam dikhna chahiye yhaade...;)

Unn bhi kai be shikayat aa li ak hude farji profile aan laag gayi ghani e, mere yaad se ek chhori farji NRI profile baddal birdaave thi..byahe pachche

Taau ke akhbaara ka kharcha bhi likad jyaaga arr gunthi ar kaambbal bhi.... jadde aan ne ho rahe se ;-)

.....kimme to kaam aavenge, raandya ka byah karvana to punn ka kaam ho se.... teen-chaara ki dabi hodi file nipat jya, to fer haam in ne maaf kar saka sa..arr fer moderator ke election me inki parchi gedan ki haan bhar saka sa...:tears_of_joy:

[ssgoyat]

.......

U uppar aalaa sandeshaa mere dhore aayaa s, cutejatsandeep kaa, uh pe post ben laa raakhi s,...

U uppar aalaa sandesh ,

yo to galat kaam kar diya mamme tanne, eeb iska ban kade nahi hattan ka...

cutesandeep ki cute baatein aapne jag-jaahir kar di..:tongue:

[login4vinay]

कुछ बेमतलब (नान रेलेवन्त इन जतलंड कॉंटेक्स्ट थ्रेड हैं)

- What went wrong with Indian Cricket Team
- Indian Higher Education Institutes in Global Perspective
- Would Wi-Fi be replaced by Li-Fi
- Role of India in S A A R C
- How to make Education an instrument to check unemployment
- 13 out of 20 Worst Cities in the World are in India with Delhi at number one
- Should Helmet Wearing be made Mandatory for Woman driving two wheelers
- Save Bird Habitats : Save Birds
- How to avert looming large problem of food shortage
- Political Impact of 16th Lok sabha Elections on various Political Parties
- Malaria Resurfaces in Haryana
-Land Acquisition case in Gurgaon reaches Supreme Court of India.
- What will be structure of Agency/Organisation in place of Planning Commission -
- Election Eve Stone Laying Spree and announcement of incentives - Haryana style
- Happy Janmashtami
- 21st Century India in the eyes of a Poet
- How India Can Attain Position of Super Power in the World
- Happy Raksha Bandhan
- Governors start to Resign their Posts
- Human Development Performance Report and India
- When would Delhi Get Popular Government
- Black Money: Supreme Court Rejects Centre's Plea against appointment of SIT
- Congress Sweeps Uttrakhand Assembly byelection
- B R I C S Becomes Operative - Welcome Development in International Polity
- Climate Change - Everyone will feel the Heat



एक भाई इसने फेसबूक की ढाल किम्मे हो चेप के ने तागा खोल दे से, खामखा का ....

Bhai ye to kuch h matlab k h bhi.. arr facebook p te koi bhi baat uthakre bina verify kiya naya thaga suru.. :victorious:

अल जज़ीरा चैनल एवँ शोले के वीरू-जय !

[sanjeev_balyan]

aaj ji sa aaya kuch
na te kati marghat si hori hai Jatland
welcome back ravinder bhai

[anilsangwan]

There is a moderator here who pokes his nose in everything !! He decides which thread and post will stay and which will be deleted. I attribute low activity to him to a large extent in last few months.

why not make this as bit liberal site ! We dont need environment like "JBT" masters with "Danda" in their hands!! Save this site !

samajh te tham gaye hoge !! ��

[ssgoyat]

Main reason for the less (zero) pariticipation is that ........Naye baalka ka JL me interest ni h ar Puraane baalak biyahe thiyahe ho ge....;):tongue::cool:


ha ha ha haamne beraa s priya tu purani hogi.


kadde nyu to nahi bera unnana chaahndi ak ya bhi balak na rahi, suvassan ho li.....:tongue::tongue:

[ssgoyat]

There is a moderator here who pokes his nose in everything !! He decides which thread and post will stay and which will be deleted. I attribute low activity to him to a large extent in last few months.

why not make this as bit liberal site ! We dont need environment like "JBT" masters with "Danda" in their hands!! Save this site !

samajh te tham gaye hoge !! ��

Ek JLfauji tahi dusare JLfauji ne samjhaayi thi aade.... akk you should hang your boots now, if you want to gain respect.

same way, the 'JBT' master should throw away his 'danda' now...

[rkumar]

one more Dr Rajpal Singh ki waja se website chod raha hu me bhi
Hellooooooooooooooo dosto. I am leaving thsi website due to this b$$$w$ dr rajpal janghu. he has been deleting all good posts from me. this mod thinks as if he has become barack obama and he has all powers in this world. every post from every member he attacks sarcastically always. he wants his virew to be supreme. because of him, many worthy members r not coming to this site. this "$$$$$$$$$$$" has done a 'kabja' on this website.

every post u write this "$$$$$$$$" comes and puts his sarcastic comments as if this site is made by his father and only we have to write his way only. today he deleted many good posts from me.

rajpal - tu khush reh. tere liye ye mod wali bahot badi post hai. chodna mat isko


ha ha ha ha ha ha

aaj log in karyaa te u message milyaa, itni bhundi bezati kare paachhe bhi itne umardaraaj maanas se modretorship hi nahi jatland chhod deni chaahiye.

asal me "musse nu mili soonth ki gaanth ,pansaari bann bethyaa."


Full sympathy with your anguish. However, I would request you to kindly delete the words like "B$$$w$" et.... please.

RK^2

[malikdeepak1]

Aaj te majma sa baith rhya se JL pe.. Ya bani na kime baat si :applause:

[anilsangwan]

Looks like sunny had raised the right issue long back but no action was taken. I feel he had given up after lot of trouble by master ji and i emphathise with him except his selection of words!

hope satyeshwar takes some decision about this now even if masterji is not ready to quit ! Kamla Beniwal er sheila dikshit ke sehaj si maani thi - manayi gayi thi !!

[anilsangwan]

Aaj te majma sa baith rhya se JL pe.. Ya bani na kime baat si :applause:
Ram ram bhai ! Katwa do rogg aaj !!

[Prikshit]

Full sympathy with your anguish. However, I would request you to kindly delete the words like "B$$$w$" et.... please.

RK^2
Right hamare ladai vichardhara se hai vyakti visesh se nhi. We have high regard for our elders, such words demean us. There are better ways to say things.

[ssgoyat]

Full sympathy with your anguish. However, I would request you to kindly delete the words like "B$$$w$" et.... please.

RK^2

You're right Uncleji,

There are lots of $$$ signs that should have been put in place (thought it was a PM)
But anyways, let's leave the judgement to our Moderator brother and his crystal ball.

No wonder, how many members get banned now because of this revolt. I see myself at the No. 1 slot now.:angel:

[ayushkadyan]

Hi All,

This thread is started so as to know how satisfied we are with our Moderators. Moderator's job is a thankless job we agree, but don't you think there are limitations to everything?

In recent past we have seen a no. of JLanders have issues with moderators, which is one main reason less participation. If one or two person have some issues then it is a different thing, but when large number of JL members have same kinda issues, then it should be addressed at earliest.

Suggestions from you all are required that what should be done so as to ensure that members as well as the moderators should not go out of their limits.

I have been a member here from last 4 years, never ever observed such skewed participation on Jatland.

There is a huge scope of introspection for all the members, including the Moderators.

PS: Please see this thread is started in positive sense, and their is nothing personal in it. Also, it is not meant to
doubt the integrity of Moderators who have been constantly nurturing this forum.

I might not be a suitable person to give suggestion on this issue but sharing my views which I've observed since I joined JL:

==> My first question is that why we need moderator when we all feel that we are educated and sophisticated enough on our thought process.
==> I don't know what kind of agenda moderators/site administrator are following but know one thing that people try to prove right themselves in every situation.
==> It's quite natural to see difference of opinion when people come together which lead to a conflict. Ultimately people try to protect their interest.
==> It's a public forum so no one wants to be proved wrong in front of others whether it's moderator or a normal JL user.
==> Everyone has right to express their views but no one can decide what is right or what is wrong. It's a matter of one's perception and attitude towards the things.
==> I've seen so many time a normal discussion become turns into a personal matter. In most of cases it's related to the political interest/views.


At the end I would suggest if people start accepting the views of others than the role of moderator can be minimized in case of conflicts. Also moderator are not exception of this thing.
If our site moderator could work in true spirit by raising their level of accepting the members views then we can be witness of a more enthusiastic participation of our existing forum members in discussions. Also this will give a better picture to new users.

[Prikshit]

This thread was not started to target someone personally, I apologize for the bad words used by anyone including me. We don't want anyone to go but to change thier style of working. I request all to kindly remove $$$$ content from your individual posts.

[ravinderjeet]

Full sympathy with your anguish. However, I would request you to kindly delete the words like "B$$$w$" et.... please.

RK^2
Sir ji wo mere shabd nahi hein, jisne likhe hein, wo jl chhod ke jaa chukaa he.

[ssgoyat]

This thread was not started to target someone personally, I apologize for the bad words used by anyone including me. We don't want anyone to go but to change thier style of working. I request all to kindly remove $$$$ content from your individual posts.

Agreed. but

इब तो तगार बन लिया खाँचे का.... सेड दे सी ने नीम भर ल्यो अर कांध काड ल्यो

[ravinderjeet]

Aaj te majma sa baith rhya se JL pe.. Ya bani na kime baat si :applause:

Mussey pe soonth ki gaanth khoss ke maanoge!!!!!!!!!!!

[desijat]

..phir kuch desijat jisse bowli poch se jo internet ki duniya ke behtaaz badshah hai n asal zindagi mai unhe kutta bhi koni jaaanta..maane jatland ye sooch ke join kari thi ke apne biradari ke logo se milna laga rahega..lekn yaha ke jaat milne se darte hai kaadee unki asliyat khool ja...aadee to saaaree apne app ne number 1batawee hai..baki jatland se kuch bahut ache dost bhi baane..

Pahle to bhai sab welcome back. We may have had differences of opinion, but I did miss not having you around for long.

On the post, it is precisely this reason people are not coming to Jatland. People take things too personally and get too personal. Sandeep bhai yahan sab kuch banane aaye honge, par dost nahi. It should not surprise anyone that this james bond called me to threaten me with life for retaliating his posts against modi, and I am sure no person in sane mind will support that. Then he sent me PMs full of BS that were not responded too. Instead of responding, I took up this matter with Satyeshwar and he made the right decisions.

I agree moderation should not be very extensive but some members here do need to be told what to do. We may have differences of opinions, but it should never go to personal extent.

[ravinderjeet]

Ram ram bhai ! , katwa do rogg aaj !!

U jatland ke laaggyaa hod cip-chipaa al s , kihe nu te haath dhanswaane padenge, naa te jatland rupi eenkh sookh jaawegaa

[ravinderjeet]

You are right Uncleji,

There are lots of $$$ signs that should have been put in place (thought it was a PM)
But anyways, let's leave the judgement to our Moderator brother and his crystal ball.

No wonder, how many members get banned now because of this revolt. I see myself at the No. 1 slot now.:angel:

Oon bhi ban baraabar the ,Aapaan kad aawaan the aade ek saal tein

[rkumar]

I have a suggestion for the administrators of Jatland on moderation of posts;

How about adopting a democratic method of moderation. If people find some post or parts of it offensive, they can write to moderator. Moderator acts only if he/ she receives complaints. Let him then examine if complaints have any substance. Only abusive words should be removed from the posts and nothing else. Social websites like Jatland have massive competition from facebook. To remain relevant, Jatland will have to evolve. This of couse needs funding and is not so easy.

RK^2

[ravinderjeet]

Pahle to bhai sab welcome back. We may have had differences of opinion, but I did miss not having you around for long.

On the post, it is precisely this reason people are not coming to Jatland. People take things too personally and get too personal. Sandeep bhai yahan sab kuch banane aaye honge, par dost nahi. It should not surprise anyone that this james bond called me to threaten me with life for retaliating his posts against modi, and I am sure no person in sane mind will support that. Then he sent me PMs full of BS that were not responded too. Instead of responding, I took up this matter with Satyeshwar and he made the right decisions.

I agree moderation should not be very extensive but some members here do need to be told what to do. We may have differences of opinions, but it should never go to personal extent.

Bhaai teri baat theek s,ghanaa personal nahi honaa chaahiye ,par taali te jibbe baajegi jibb donu hatheli bhidengi

[spdeshwal]

I have a suggestion for the administrators of Jatland on moderation of posts;

How about adopting a democratic method of moderation. If people find some post or parts of it offensive, they can write to moderator. Moderator acts only if he/ she receives complaints. Let him then examine if complaints have any substance. Only abusive words should be removed from the posts and nothing else. Social websites like Jatland have massive competition from facebook. To remain relevant, Jatland will have to evolve. This of couse needs funding and is not so easy.

RK^2
I agree with yours views in toto RK ji! Although I wouldn't agree with the irrational moderation but same time would like the members not to use inappropriate language against any member including the moderator! His style of functioning may be harsh and autocratic but doesn't deserve the kind of words used to address him!
RK ji let us try to bring back our older members who are in touch through personal relations, FB or any other sources!

RK ji you are our senior member and I would request you to start a campaign to bring back our older members ! That could be to start a thread in General Section by appealing to participate ! Lets revive Jatland and bring it to older, I would say glorious level!

Cheers

[anilsangwan]

Pehlam to dande aale master ka hisaab karo - fer e shayad member ulte aawenge !

[rkumar]

I agree with yours views in toto RK ji! Although I wouldn't agree with the irrational moderation but same time would like the members not to use inappropriate language against any member including the moderator! His style of functioning may be harsh and autocratic but doesn't deserve the kind of words used to address him!
RK ji let us try to bring back our older members who are in touch through personal relations, FB or any other sources!

RK ji you are our senior member and I would request you to start a campaign to bring back our older members ! That could be to start a thread in General Section by appealing to participate ! Lets revive Jatland and bring it to older, I would say glorious level!

Cheers

Agreed. Let us work all together to request as many members as we can to bring them back. I will write personally to as many as I can. Its our platform and we should work to keep alive and full of life. In fact I will like this website to be the happening place for anything and everything for Jats. Let people even openly ask to support a political party by declaring their political affiliations. I see no harm if representatives of political parties start their own threads to seek support and members engage with them directly. Except abusive and sexually explicit language, everything should be allowed. I am sure we can energize it again.

RK^2

[desijat]

Good initiative uncleji. I believe a lot of old members still come and check threads but do not post, for what ever reasons. I have seen a couple of them online.
Agreed. Let us work all together to request as many members as we can to bring them back. I will write personally to as many as I can. Its out platform and we should work to keep alive and full of life.

RK^2

[anilsangwan]

Good initiative uncleji. I believe a lot of old members still come and check threads but do not post, for what ever reasons. I have seen a couple of them online.


Election paachhe post to teri bhi kamm hogi .... Isa e kuchh unke saath hoya hoga bhai !

[ssgoyat]

I agree with yours views in toto RK ji! Although I wouldn't agree with the irrational moderation but same time would like the members not to use inappropriate language against any member including the moderator! His style of functioning may be harsh and autocratic but doesn't deserve the kind of words used to address him!
RK ji let us try to bring back our older members who are in touch through personal relations, FB or any other sources!

RK ji you are our senior member and I would request you to start a campaign to bring back our older members ! That could be to start a thread in General Section by appealing to participate ! Lets revive Jatland and bring it to older, I would say glorious level!

Cheers

Very true Deshwal bade bhaisabji,

Difference of opinion shouldn't short circuit with jat brotherhood.

We should more promote/encourage face to face interactions and meetings. And that works.....

I've had many online short circuits with quite a couple of members, but when i got to meet them & talk to them in depth. I found them sober and sensible otherwise. Face to face interaction promotes harmony and a sense of belonging ness to brotherhood.

I still remember my first JL meet, 8~9 year back organized by Sh. Rajendra kalkhande ji in faridabad. And have made very good friends for life. And tried to organize meets in Delhi/Pune since then.

All i could say is..... the more we meet face to face, more we get to know each other and be harmonious.

In my opinion, we should bring out a list of previously active members (on basis of eg. post count) and personally invite them to be present once again, irrespective of our/their differences.

[desijat]

I may not post but I do come and see, I lost interest a little before elections for multiple reasons shared by me, and few more members in the forum.



Election paachhe post to teri bhi kamm hogi .... Isa e kuchh unke saath hoya hoga bhai !

[rkumar]

I may not post but I do come and see, I lost interest a little before elections for multiple reasons shared by me, and few more members in the forum.

Never loose interest. keep posting. Look at me. I have been a real "Dheeth" on Jatland. Except for a brief period for personal reasons, I never gave up. I had many fights on Jatland. However, no ill will towards anyone. I remember, once a member go so agitated that he wanted to thresh me physically. I took the challenge and asked him to decide the place and time where we should meet. Never heard from him and that was the end of story. I don't think we should worry about all these things. If you are active, there will be such situations. Handle them as and when u face them.

RK^2

[ravinderjeet]

Pehlam to dande aale master ka hisaab karo - fer e shayad member ulte aawenge !

Sahi baat, u ni hatlegaa itne koye fedaa naa se,kade khaamkhaa khubaat karo.

[rkumar]

....................
I still remember my first JL meet, 8~9 year back organized by Sh. Rajendra kalkhande ji in faridabad. And have made very good friends for life. .......................

I was just thinking of the same. That was a great meeting. We had almost 40-50 members, drinks and dance. Let us plan a similar meeting again at the same place. How about meeting in October this year?

RK^2

[ravinderjeet]

[QUOTE=rkumar;366810]Never loose interest. k,eep posting. Look at me. I have been a real "Dheeth" on Jatland. Except for a brief period for personal reasons, I never gave up. I had many fights on Jatland. However, no ill will towards anyone. I remember, once a member go so agitated that he wanted to thresh me physically. I took the challenge and asked him to decide the place and time where we should meet. Never heard from him and that was the end of story. I don't think we should worry about all these things. If you are active, there will be such situations. Handle them as and when u face them.


Sir ji u maanas jibb kimme likhann koni dewe , te intrest kithon aawegaa, u te kejriwaal horyaa se, sab kyan pe jhaadu maare jaawe s,bas ih ki post aani chaahiye chaahe kitnaa- kudaa ho unme

[ravinderjeet]

I was just thinking of the same. That was a great meeting. We had almost 40-50 members, drinks and dance. Let us plan a similar meeting again at the same place. How about meeting in October this year?

RK^2

Sir ji pahlam leele aali baat pe dhyaan dyo, party te ho jaawegi, drinks kaa khrchaa meraa.rotiyaa kaa aap dekh lio,par pahlam ih deemak kaa kaam honaa chaahiye.

[agodara]

Sir ji wo mere shabd nahi hein, jisne likhe hein, wo jl chhod ke jaa chukaa he.
Bhai sahab
shabd aapke nahi hai per post to aapki hai.aap edit ker sakte hai.sab ne padh liya.bhai sahab please
yaha jatland 2 members online hote hai to 99 guests wo kya feel karenge.aage aaap ki marzi

[rkumar]

Sir ji pahlam leele aali baat pe dhyaan dyo, party te ho jaawegi, drinks kaa khrchaa meraa.rotiyaa kaa aap dekh lio,par pahlam ih deemak kaa kaam honaa chaahiye.

Dost, sirf aap dharshan den, baaki hum dekh lenge.. khana peena sabka intzaam ho jayega.. Sirf tasreef le aaiyega janab.

RK^2

[ssgoyat]

I was just thinking of the same. That was a great meeting. We had almost 40-50 members, drinks and dance. Let us plan a similar meeting again at the same place. How about meeting in October this year?

RK^2

Dear Uncleji,

In present circumstances, we have many hurdles in Delhi NCR meet. I've had bitter experiences in the last Delhi Jat Meet. But that won't disappoint me down.
First priority is to bring all good old members back to JL & hence the meet, irrespective of so called 'differences of opinions'.
We must first understand, differences are of opinions & not of individuals.

Lets bring out a list of individuals who we feel should be invited back again at JL. And bring the old times back.

[rkumar]

Dear Uncleji,

In present circumstances, we have many hurdles in Delhi NCR meet. I've had bitter experiences in the last Delhi Jat Meet. But that won't disappoint me down.
First priority is to bring all good old members back to JL & hence the meet, irrespective of so called 'differences of opinions'.
We must first understand, differences are of opinions & not of individuals.

Lets bring out a list of individuals who we feel should be invited back again at JL. And bring the old times back.

I have started writing to old members. Hopefully we will be sing them soon.. I am sure Jatland will be a happening place once again.

RK^2

[VirJ]

I can possibly make it if the meet is Late Nov/Early Dec in or around New Delhi.

[VirJ]

Please don’t target individual moderator. People here were never happy with any moderator, not even with me.

Moderators have a job in hand and sometime they take it too seriously. I remember there was a time when they decided no moderation or minimum moderation and few members left because what followed was abuses, propaganda news, BJP, RSS and Congress followers posting fake news/adds, few members forming group and targeting others. I used to delete Hindu/Muslim or Propaganda threads but I was told not to and I moved on. In my opinion, this site is not a place to throw that junk here.

There is a fine line when we do moderation and to balance self on that line is very hard. Given that the moderation is an unpaid work the only motivation moderator has is ‘love for community and this site’. Another thing is sometime members don’t see the full picture as to why a post is being deleted. Your post might be indirectly related to the issue. There are also some members who often complain to Moderators and/or Owners and Mods feel pressure to act. In such cases members might think that Mods favour a particular person. Having said that yes I have seen Mods playing politics as well however it doesn’t happen now because there is only one active Mod.

Moderators are hired by the administrators of the site. So the ultimate responsibility lies with them. Moderators are probably doing their job in the manner they are asked to do or they think is best to do. Think it this way, someone has to do the job and before we ask for a change in moderation do we have a replacement in mind? Or are we our self ready to take the responsibility? What is the use of changing person if way of working doesn’t change?

[spdeshwal]

[QUOTE=rkumar;366810]Never loose interest. k,eep posting. Look at me. I have been a real "Dheeth" on Jatland. Except for a brief period for personal reasons, I never gave up. I had many fights on Jatland. However, no ill will towards anyone. I remember, once a member go so agitated that he wanted to thresh me physically. I took the challenge and asked him to decide the place and time where we should meet. Never heard from him and that was the end of story. I don't think we should worry about all these things. If you are active, there will be such situations. Handle them as and when u face them.


Sir ji u maanas jibb kimme likhann koni dewe , te intrest kithon aawegaa, u te kejriwaal horyaa se, sab kyan pe jhaadu maare jaawe s,bas ih ki post aani chaahiye chaahe kitnaa- kudaa ho unme

Jab taq yo moderation aala rolla mite, tab taq aapna favourite thread ne chaloo karde! I mean Albaadiyan aala thread! I don't think mod sahab will have any problem with that!

Cheers!

[Prikshit]

A positive out come of thread, we see a number of members who were not active lately. I hope things will improve from moderator's end, but in the meantime revival can happen. Rk uncle ji has already taken the initiative. So everyone take the onus and try from their end to bring it to the notice of all Jlanders in your circle.

[DrRajpalSingh]

I have gone through the posts with interest and found that some of the members are feeling disgusted with the intervention of the moderators in the functioning of the Jat Land site !

I neither deny nor accept the charges levelled against me by some of friends in their posts, but use of inappropriate words in the posts I do not accept leaving them as they are as proud possession of those who have posted them. If the use of this type of unbecoming language is not allowed to be touched, I leave it to be decided by the concerned members themselves.

I congratulate the eagerness of participants who have desired to carry forward the site on the ladder of further progress and popularity. Hope that they will sustain their present 'Josh' and efforts !

[DrRajpalSingh]

I have contributed a bit to do full justice with the job in hand without fear/favour or prejudice.


Kindly note that the members have themselves requested the moderators to intervene for more than one and a half thousand times to the moderators by complaining against one another.

In the present heat of attacks on moderation and moderator also come up with suggestion to reconcile the two paradoxical situations :


One side does not like the posts in their original form and on the other side are those who are against the intervention of editors/moderators.

Kindly suggest to the administrators of the Site unanimously a name of some member who is willing to accept the responsibility as Editor/moderator.

[Romar]

Another thing is sometime members don’t see the full picture as to why a post is being deleted.
Agar aap kaaran likh dein ki koi nirnaya kisliye liya gaya hai to sab jaan jayenge ki kya hua.

[DrRajpalSingh]

I have gone through the posts with interest and found that some of the members are feeling disgusted with the intervention of the moderators in the functioning of the Jat Land site !

I neither deny nor accept the charges levelled against me by some of friends in their posts, but use of inappropriate words in the posts I do not accept leaving them as they are as proud possession of those who have posted them. If the use of this type of unbecoming language is not allowed to be touched, I leave it to be decided by the concerned members themselves.

I congratulate the eagerness of participants who have desired to carry forward the site on the ladder of further progress and popularity. Hope that they will sustain their present 'Josh' and efforts !


To put the record straight, this is to bring to the notice of the participants that I have not imposed ban on any of the members since the time I took over as moderator/editor. Hence unfounded canard that I am banning the members.

Secondly, two/three very enthusiastic complainants against me hurling unfounded allegations of depriving them opportunity to post their threads/posts must substantiate their point of view before the administrators if they have genuine problem.

Perhaps calling names to a person on public site is unacceptable in every civilised society. At least, I am not going to retaliate and join the edging out bullying of the fellow Jatlanders as some of us are aiming at through this thread. The use of Banned members posts [with whom I had no role to ban] on the thread for partisan interests is quite unacceptable proposition !

All in all, every member is invited to contribute to make their constructive cooperation to take the site to greater heights in the days ahead.

Thanks and regards;

and best wishes for happy future for the site with amiable participation of one and all !

[Romar]

I have gone through the posts with interest and found that some of the members are feeling disgusted with the intervention of the moderators in the functioning of the Jat Land site !

I neither deny nor accept the charges levelled against me by some of friends in their posts, but use of inappropriate words in the posts I do not accept leaving them as they are as proud possession of those who have posted them. If the use of this type of unbecoming language is not allowed to be touched, I leave it to be decided by the concerned members themselves.

I congratulate the eagerness of participants who have desired to carry forward the site on the ladder of further progress and popularity. Hope that they will sustain their present 'Josh' and efforts !
aapke k saath mera bhi kain baar vivaad hua per meri najariye mein aap ek bahut buddhiman aur pade likhe insaan hain aur aapse seekhne ka bahut acha avsar milta hai.

Aisi aapne kaus se lekh ko hata diya jisse bhai naaraz ho gaye?

[Prikshit]

1. I guess no has any issue upon removal of unacceptable content.
2. If something is deleted, it should be brought to the notice of that person.
3. Banning/removing ban: Who is in charge, if possible that should be made public, where people can have their views.
4. At times people deviate from the essence of ongoing thread, that is not good but 5-10% deviation should be tolerated and removal of content should not be immidiete.
5. I myself refrain from posting when I feel ab jyada ho rha hai, every single Post need not be answered (For both members and moderators).
6. Understanding should be in place from both the parties(Mod as well as Members).
7. If some issues, common to many is raised then that should be addressed and the resolution can be made public if possible.
8. Whosoever, happy or unhappy pls refrain from using abusive words, "Euphemism" can do.
9. Since both the parties have kept their views, so a middle way path which maintains the integrity of this portal should be carved out.
10. Members should also understand a content which can be challenged on any grounds may be religious or individaul should not be pasted. (Specifically secularism stuff, there are many better ways and we have learned people here, bat keh do aur kisse ka nam na lo aisa karna better rehta hai)

PS: Ek grievences can thread shuru karlo, and all the caretakers of this site should take a note and act in the interest of this portal.

[vk23]

I have contributed a bit to do full justice with the job in hand without fear/favour or prejudice.


Kindly note that the members have themselves requested the moderators to intervene for more than one and a half thousand times to the moderators by complaining against one another.

In the present heat of attacks on moderation and moderator also come up with suggestion to reconcile the two paradoxical situations :


One side does not like the posts in their original form and on the other side are those who are against the intervention of editors/moderators.

Kindly suggest to the administrators of the Site unanimously a name of some member who is willing to accept the responsibility as Editor/moderator.

Don't be that smart. You have been very biased person. You edit my post without my consulation. You never reply to my questions. So many people write offtopic but never do anything about it but you scruitnise my posts like anything. For God sake, leave this website. If you need proofs, I will prove right here on this thread about my claims. But i know you would never allow.

[Samarkadian]

No doubt you are doing a wonderful job but I think in general Jatland members like to be un-moderated. By very nature of jats, they dont like anyone's superiority. Further only issue I can see with you and these frequent fingers on you is because of ''feel''. Jatland members usually like to connect and feel with moderators. They search for that 'jat connect or feel'. In my opinion that is missing somewhere. It might be because of your ''always political correct'' approach in responses.

To the original post, I disagree that all users can be happy at a given time with moderation irrespective of who is doing it. We all are educated members here so lets raise our voice without hitting below the belt in brethren.

My 25 paise of constructive cooperation.

Boa Sorte.


To put the record straight, this is to bring to the notice of the participants that I have not imposed ban on any of the members since the time I took over as moderator/editor. Hence unfounded canard that I am banning the members.

Secondly, two/three very enthusiastic complainants against me hurling unfounded allegations of depriving them opportunity to post their threads/posts must substantiate their point of view before the administrators if they have genuine problem.

Perhaps calling names to a person on public site is unacceptable in every civilised society. At least, I am not going to retaliate and join the edging out bullying of the fellow Jatlanders as some of us are aiming at through this thread. The use of Banned members posts [with whom I had no role to ban] on the thread for partisan interests is quite unacceptable proposition !

All in all, every member is invited to contribute to make their constructive cooperation to take the site to greater heights in the days ahead.

Thanks and regards;

and best wishes for happy future for the site with amiable participation of one and all !

[amankadian]

Happy With Moderators?

Yes I am happy. I voted for yes.

Dr.Rajpal ji is only active forum moderator. I just want to say him Thanks for his valuable time. Appreciated Job!

[prashantacmet]

Yaha par kuch buddhijeevi members bhi hai...jo apne gyana ke bojh ke neeche dabe hue hai....agar koi unse jawaab-talab kare to unke ahankaar ko thesh lagti hai...........abhi kuch din pehle ek sahab laal-peele ho gaye the..he did not want to learn anything from Israel..;)

[sanjeev_balyan]

Rajpalji's language is polished, polite, soft, intellectual, etc and he wants the same from members. I dont have any disrespect / ill feeling about him.

but most of the members come here to get the KHUSBU of Jat culture / lingo / attitude / etc,

his style of moderating may be good but JL is turning into a boring site. 2/4 post delete hote hi har kisi ki himmat jabab de jati hai

JL basic motto in my opinion is that each post should give the impression that it has been written by a JAT.

asal m Pujay Rajpalji JL ke babuji Aloknath hai,

[vk23]

Rajpalji's language is polished, polite, soft, intellectual, etc and he wants the same from members. I dont have any disrespect / ill feeling about him.

but most of the members come here to get the KHUSBU of Jat culture / lingo / attitude / etc,

his style of moderating may be good but JL is turning into a boring site. 2/4 post delete hote hi har kisi ki himmat jabab de jati hai

JL basic motto in my opinion is that each post should give the impression that it has been written by a JAT.

asal m Pujay Rajpalji JL ke babuji Aloknath hai,


YES my friend. Imagine if all of your post await a moderator approval. And many times a moderator takes 1-2 days to approve your post. Imagine if you can't edit your post after submitting it. Imagine if your posts don't get approved. Imagine if a moderator attacks you sarcastically instead of contributing. I tried to submit my grievience on some other thread but some moderator does not want any sort of criticism.

I haven't come across a social forum which is so heavily moderated and intensely biased on very small opinions.

[vikasJAT]

mane 2010 me join kra tha........sari hann JL per e raha krta..........per aajkal aade kuch b ni h.
Kuch post kro to vo delete...

EK baat samajh ni aayi ki aade moderator kis base per banaye ja hain?

JL 2010 me b vohi thi aur aaj b vohi h.....kuch to change kro, thoda attractive banao.

Baki rahi baat 0 participation ki to vo to hogi he.......duniya bhar ki ladai.......joke k section me political message ye sab dekhan khater kun apna time waste krega.

[Prikshit]

One thing is clear people are not averse to participating, but they are looking for a conducive atmosphere. Some relaxation and flexibility is of upmost importance for revival. Instead of justification we need justice

[Prikshit]

Happy With Moderators?

Yes I am happy. I voted for yes.

Dr.Rajpal ji is only active forum moderator. I just want to say him Thanks for his valuable time. Appreciated Job!On a lighter note, we see a moderator in you :p

[akshaymalik84]

Samar - Teri Chawwani(25 Pisse) ib bhi chal rhi s?? :tongue:

[ravinderjeet]

ek response u bhi s ,me kihe kaa naa loni likhu ,par ih bande ke baare me jo bhi mere dhore PM aaye sein we chhaapungaa , jibb taahin chhaappan dewenge-----------------------



Hey buddy,

I did send this message to moderator Jangoo earlier but he never learned anything from my feedback:

GM, if you allow free flow of ideas then participation of members will increase. Also may be new members can try to be a part of this website. At the moment, website looks extremely dull and uninteresting. Let the free flow of voice and expression. The way you have blocked and controlled my freedom, looks like other members would have received the same treatment and they have slowly left this website. Only a handful of my posts shown on the website. While rest get deleted by you. Don't be a such an authoritarian regime. I want to be free of your clutches around me. Also don't write dull and boring generic responses to me. Trust me, if you won't change your style of moderator ship, more will leave this website and then doomsday is not far for this website.


I did not know before that other members are also facing same heat. Unbelievable. I wonder how come this man is allowed to moderate this website so heavily and so unaccountable!

[ravinderjeet]

ek u bhi s ,kise kise udgaar vayakr kare sein dekh lyo-----


I am also suffering from this jacka$$, cunning moderator rajpal jangoo. He is a very arrogant and very clever person. He gathers sympathy from people here by writing general statements. He has put me on moderation list because he does not like my views. I did not break any rules but this person still put me on moderation list like other few members. I can prove my claim easily if this b@stard accept my challenge and allow me to put my point forward. But he would never do that because I can expose him easily. My friend, everyone will suffer until he steps down from moderator ship. Lets collectively raise voice against this idiot.

[ravinderjeet]

khongress ki to band baj gai par jhangu ki nahi baji abhi tak----------


Ravinder ji,

Yeh bhaut hee unfortunate hoga agar aap jaise puraane aur senior members ko aise chup karwaya jayega - sirf iss liye kee aap seedhi sateek aur spasht baat likhate hain.

Kitne aise members hain including VP ji jo khule mein Khangress ka samarthan karte hain auron ko bhala bura bol kar aur phir moderators ko doosron ke liye openly complaint karte hain.

I would request you not to quit Jatland. Jeet akhir sachayee kee hee hoti hae sooner or later. Humein thodi si aur pratiksha karni hogi elections tak jab Khangressiyon ka voters band bajayenge.

[ravinderjeet]

ek ye dekhiye-----

bhai saaab meraa bhi aap waala haal hai.....yeee saaalee moderator meri bhi koi post dalte nahi hai....jo dalte hai woo bhi aadhe aadhe ......mujhe to yee sabhi hawa singh sangwan n congress ke gulamm lagte hai....issaaa keee too juttt bajaaa doooo

[ravinderjeet]

Ravinder Ji ,

Aap bade ho aap namaste mat kaho , yahan ye hai log ban aur moderation pe daale jaate hai sab ko man mutabik likhne ki ijajat honi chahiye , moderatos open discussion nahi karte ... vo thread jo opne kiya tha vo sab ke liye hi tha ... mein koi Vikas ka supporter nahi hoan bas dikkat uss tarh ki restrictions se .. aur aap ko moderation pe daalna galat hai bilkul galat hai.

[ravinderjeet]

Ravindrajeet bhai,

namaste !

bahut dukh hua hai.
meri post bhee picchle 1 varsh se direct post nahi hoti hai, pahle moderator check karta hain aur aadhi se jyaadaa post karte hee nahi hai.
mai aapke saath hoon. mai aapke liye kya kar sakta hoon. pls mujhe batayen.
God bless.

your friend

[ravinderjeet]

jinki post mene uppar daali hein ,ye yaa to bilkul jl chhod chuke hein ,yaa likhnaa banmd kar chuke hein,ye rajpal jhangu ki den he iss jatland site ko , me ek baat kahungaa ki rajpal jhangu "jahar bujhi mitthi chhuri " hein shabdon se vaar nahi karte , log samjhte rahte hein ki meethaa boltaa he aadmi achhaa hogaa ,inkaa charitr ,bhaamn aur rifuji bhaappon se puri tarah mel khaataa he, isne kisi JL member kaa utnaa nuksaan nahi kiyaa jitnaa jatland kaa kiyaa he ,jatland kaa "math maar" ke dhar diyaa.

[ravinderjeet]

I have contributed a bit to do full justice with the job in hand without fear/favour or prejudice.


Kindly note that the members have themselves requested the moderators to intervene for more than one and a half thousand times to the moderators by complaining against one another.

In the present heat of attacks on moderation and moderator also come up with suggestion to reconcile the two paradoxical situations :


One side does not like the posts in their original form and on the other side are those who are against the intervention of editors/moderators.

Kindly suggest to the administrators of the Site unanimously a name of some member who is willing to accept the responsibility as Editor/moderator.


jab aap apni galti maanoge hi nahi ,to sudhaar ki gunjaaish khatam ho jaati he !!!!!!!!!!vese bhi iss umar me sudhaar ki umeed nahi rakhni chaahiye.
aap kaa naam bhi kisi ne sujhaayaa thaa kyaa????

[dndeswal]

वो तो आड़े प्रोफाइल डेलीट मारण का ऑपसन कोन्या, ना ते आड़े ३०-४० ते फालतू लोग ना बचे पावे जे न्यू ए हाल रहय तो ....

मॅट्रिमोनियल मे पोस्ट कारण आला की मजबूरी से , अक रेजिस्ट्रेशन करना पड़े से।. ज्याः ते मेंबर की संख्या बढ़ती दिक्खी जाया करे, और इसमे बड़ाई अली बात कोनी...

नरवाल, राका, पन्नू, रविंदेरजीत, ब्रह्*म तेवतिया, dnd देशवाल , अनिल संगवान इत्यादि जिसे आंडी मेम्बरान की भी जरूरत से दोबारा इस साइट ने रिवाइव कारण खात्तर....:livid:

Dear all,

I am a little bit inactive now-a-days because of being too busy in personal affairs, frequent travels etc. But whenever I am on Internet, I do try to read all new posts. Right now, I am writing this post from a friend's PC, in New Delhi. Please give me some more time - I would be as active as before.

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[ravinderjeet]

To put the record straight, this is to bring to the notice of the participants that I have not imposed ban on any of the members since the time I took over as moderator/editor. Hence unfounded canard that I am banning the members.
( dekh liyaa ,ki kitno ko problem ho rahi thi post karne me ,me khud 3 mahine tak post nahi kar paa rahaa thaa ,tab aakhir me ,aanaa band kiyaa thaa ,rajpal jhangu ,ye jhuth aur kahin bataanaa ,ham jat hein ,munh par kahnaa jaante hein ,abhi toh aur logon ko pataa chalegaa rab we aur likhenge aap ke virodh me )

Secondly, two/three very enthusiastic complainants against me hurling unfounded allegations of depriving them opportunity to post their threads/posts must substantiate their point of view before the administrators if they have genuine problem.
( administrstors ko time hotaa toh ab tak jabaab nahi aataa ? bandar ke haath me talwaar de ke we toh chale gaye, pataa nahi kab aayenge)

Perhaps calling names to a person on public site is unacceptable in every civilised society. At least, I am not going to retaliate and join the edging out bullying of the fellow Jatlanders as some of us are aiming at through this thread. The use of Banned members posts [with whom I had no role to ban] on the thread for partisan interests is quite unacceptable proposition !
( agar gadhe ko gadhaa nahi toh kyaa public site par haathi kahnaa chaahiye,jab aap kuchh galat karte hein ,toh sunane ki bhi himmat rakho ,abhi toh bahut kuchh aanaa baaki he ,logon ko jese-jese pataa lagegaa we aur likhenge ,vese aap chikne ghade hein ,aap ko kuchh farak nahi padegaa )

All in all, every member is invited to contribute to make their constructive cooperation to take the site to greater heights in the days ahead.
( aur kihe nu kimme likhann dewegaa jibbe likhenge naa ,jatland ki kurdi te aap khud banaa di )

Thanks and regards;

and best wishes for happy future for the site with amiable participation of one and all !

( aur kihe nu kimme likhann dewegaa jibbe likhenge naa ,jatland ki kurdi te aap khud banaa di )

[DrRajpalSingh]

jinki post mene uppar daali hein ,ye yaa to bilkul jl chhod chuke hein ,yaa likhnaa banmd kar chuke hein,ye rajpal jhangu ki den he iss jatland site ko , me ek baat kahungaa ki rajpal jhangu "jahar bujhi mitthi chhuri " hein shabdon se vaar nahi karte , log samjhte rahte hein ki meethaa boltaa he aadmi achhaa hogaa ,inkaa charitr ,bhaamn aur rifuji bhaappon se puri tarah mel khaataa he, isne kisi JL member kaa utnaa nuksaan nahi kiyaa jitnaa jatland kaa kiyaa he ,jatland kaa "math maar" ke dhar diyaa.




Shri Ravinderjeet singh is a veteran Jat Lander and I can well imagine his concern for the welfare of the site !


I might have failed to understand mind of every participant in the discussions and other forums but you all will appreciate to err is human.

When full assessment of the moderator issue by all the members will be complete on this page by the stipulated date given by Mr. Prikshit,

the editors/moderators will definitely be benefited by picking up good points to be followed.


Humble Appeal : I am a humble person interested in noble causes not damaging anyone !

So all the members are requested to make assessment of the editorship/moderation, no tirade on my person, please.

[ravinderjeet]

Happy With Moderators?

Yes I am happy. I voted for yes.

Dr.Rajpal ji is only active forum moderator. I just want to say him Thanks for his valuable time. Appreciated Job!

ha ha ha ha ,kade kimme likhdaa te koni dekhyaa haamne ,fer kyaan me happy ho gyaa ,paachhle ek saal me kimme likhyaa ho te beraa naa padhnaa padegaa toh ke ne.oon isse maansaan ke samarthak bhi inne jisse hoyaa karein.

[ravinderjeet]

Shri Ravinderjeet singh is a veteran Jat Lander and I can well imagine his concern for the welfare of the site !


I might have failed to understand mind of every participant in the discussions and other forums but you all will appreciate to err is human.

When full assessment of the moderator issue by all the members will be complete on this page by the stipulated date given by Mr. Prikshit,

the editors/moderators will definitely be benefited by picking up good points to be followed.


Humble Appeal : I am a humble person interested in noble causes not damaging anyone !

So all the members are requested to make assessment of the editorship/moderation, no tirade on my person, please.

manmohan bhi nyu-a kahyaa kardaa , ak manne kimme naa karyaa wo te pardhanmantri ne karyaa s ,uh me meraa k kasoor.mere khyaal me ,aap ne bhi beraa hogaa ak manmohan kaa k hoyaa ,1-2 saal aur rukk jaao fer dekhio k k hovegaa.

[ravinderjeet]

Yaha par kuch buddhijeevi members bhi hai...jo apne gyana ke bojh ke neeche dabe hue hai....agar koi unse jawaab-talab kare to unke ahankaar ko thesh lagti hai...........abhi kuch din pehle ek sahab laal-peele ho gaye the..he did not want to learn anything from Israel..;)


inn budhijeeviyaan ne desh kaa math maar diyaa ,ar iss site kaa bhi maarann laagre sein.

[ravinderjeet]

mane 2010 me join kra tha........sari hann JL per e raha krta..........per aajkal aade kuch b ni h.
Kuch post kro to vo delete...

EK baat samajh ni aayi ki aade moderator kis base per banaye ja hain?

JL 2010 me b vohi thi aur aaj b vohi h.....kuch to change kro, thoda attractive banao.

Baki rahi baat 0 participation ki to vo to hogi he.......duniya bhar ki ladai.......joke k section me political message ye sab dekhan khater kun apna time waste krega.

chamchaagiri ke base pe( kam tein kam jo ibb se wo te pakkam issa-a s )

[ravinderjeet]

On a lighter note, we see a moderator in you :p

haan badhiyaa s , fer 2-4 aawein sein we bhi aane band ho jyaange.

[ravinderjeet]

Samar - Teri Chawwani(25 Pisse) ib bhi chal rhi s?? :tongue:

ih ki chavanni ,shole ke jay-veeru ke siikke jisi se,kite ho kaadh ke khadaa ho jaa s ,feslaa karan khaatar.

[amankadian]

ha ha ha ha ,kade kimme likhdaa te koni dekhyaa haamne ,fer kyaan me happy ho gyaa ,paachhle ek saal me kimme likhyaa ho te beraa naa padhnaa padegaa toh ke ne.oon isse maansaan ke samarthak bhi inne jisse hoyaa karein.

Aap or rekesh serhwat JL ki Shaan ho. Ap log kitne active rhe ho last ek Saal main

50-60 log to apki post padn aya karte roz

[DrRajpalSingh]

Dear Friends,

My association with the Site as member/editor is a open book and I have no new points to present here to justify my role or reply every bit of questions raised by some of the active members and others .

I suggest to the administrators name of Mr. Ravinderjeet Singh, a veteran Jat and seasoned member of the site, for their consideration for appointment to the team of editors.

I have already devoted enough time on the site to this job and am ready to give walk over in favour of him or anybody else for editor's post.

Kindly come up !

Thanks and regards

[Prikshit]

Dear Friends,

My association with the Site as member/editor is a open book and I have no new points to present here to justify my role or reply every bit of questions raised by some of the active members and others .

I suggest to the administrators name of Mr. Ravinderjeet Singh, a veteran Jat and seasoned member of the site, for their consideration for appointment to the team of editors.

I have already devoted enough time on the site to this job and am ready to give walk over in favour of him or anybody else for editor's post.

Kindly come up !

Thanks and regards Dear Uncle, It is not about blaming anyone on personal grounds. Only a simple question; why such a large number of jatlanders are dis-satisfied? Don't take it on you, but we would like to know why post deletion/delay in posting is happening? I appreciate your cool and humbleness in replying here, but anyone replying to each and every post is bit irritating. You are a learned person, we can see that with the way you write, people here also want to write their views tough not in english as good as you can write. Its not about giving away a post, we need a solution to the problem. I may be wrong in interpreting your good work, but you will agree to me that something has gone wrong with the functioning which led to decrease in participation.

[cooljat]

.

With due respect but Dr Rajpal Ji poll results clearly shows JL janta is not happy with your way of moderation.
So you must take the moral responsibility and step down.
I might sound a bit harsh but that's the fact before Satyeshwer asks you to resign do it yourself.

Nothing personal here.

Cheers!

[malikdeepak1]

Dear Friends,

My association with the Site as member/editor is a open book and I have no new points to present here to justify my role or reply every bit of questions raised by some of the active members and others .

I suggest to the administrators name of Mr. Ravinderjeet Singh, a veteran Jat and seasoned member of the site, for their consideration for appointment to the team of editors.

I have already devoted enough time on the site to this job and am ready to give walk over in favour of him or anybody else for editor's post.

Kindly come up !

Thanks and regards


Jan-Jan ki yehi pukar,
RavinderJeet Singh abki baar!! :very_drunk:

[ravinderjeet]

Jan-Jan ki yehi pukar,
RavinderJeet Singh abki baar!! :very_drunk:

naa bhaai naa ,meraa naam mat chalaao ,aur bhatere badhiyaa manas sein ,jo theek thaak sudhaarak kaa kaam kar sake sein.me te likhann me raajji su ,jaa koye likhann dewegaa te.

[malikdeepak1]

naa bhaai naa ,meraa naam mat chalaao ,aur bhatere badhiyaa manas sein ,jo theek thaak sudhaarak kaa kaam kar sake sein.me te likhann me raajji su ,jaa koye likhann dewegaa te.

Jya e te naam chalaya se ak log-bag sukh te likh lenge ;)

[DrRajpalSingh]

.

With due respect but Dr Rajpal Ji poll results clearly shows JL janta is not happy with your way of moderation.
So you must take the moral responsibility and step down.
I might sound a bit harsh but that's the fact before Satyeshwer asks you to resign do it yourself.

Nothing personal here.

Cheers!


Thanks for the concern shown !

I must not abdicate my duty at this critical hour when daggers are drawn by a few of friends against the system of moderation and cause harm to the site by running away to avoid personal criticism! It is part and parcel of public life that none can please everyone !

Yes, Let someone come forward to take over from me and as earlier stated I will be the happiest person to welcome the change.

Would it be possible for to join immediately as team member of editors/moderators of the site ! If yes, the matter could be forwarded to concerned authorities for their consideration.

If it is not acceptable to you, then suggest some name for the assignment so that vacuum could be filled in immediately.

Thanks and regards

[singhvp]

ओहो, जाट कसूते लट्ठम लट्ठा हो रे सैं भाई I और जैसा कि मानव स्वभाव है, इस लट्ठम-लट्ठा युद्ध ने मुद्दत से सुनसान मोहल्ले में काफ़ी कुतूहल पैदा कर दिया है, जिसका भरपूर आनंद तमाशबीन टोली खूब उड़ाती नज़र आ रही है I नज़ारा कुछ यूं लगता है जैसे मोहल्ले के निठल्ले लोग सर्दी की धूप में दो मुरगों की लड़ाई का लुत्फ़ उठा रहे हों, और मोहल्ले के दादा कल्लू उस्ताद के मुर्ग़े के हर वार पर ताली पर ताली बजा रहे हों, ताकि कल्लू उस्ताद के खौफ और सींग फसाई से बचे रहें I

मुद्दे की बात करें तो मुद्दा कोई ख़ास है ही नहीं I हालांकि राजपाल जी की मोडेटरशिप उनके कार्यकाल के आखरी दिनों में मुझे भी अधिक प्रभावित नहीं कर पाई, परन्तु ऐसी कोई गंभीर शिकायत मुझे उनसे कभी नहीं रही, बावजूद इसके कि उन्होंने मेरी कुछ झरीटों पर भी थोड़ी बहुत लीपा पोती की I दूसरी बात यह है की इतने लम्बे अरसे तक बिना तनखाह के मोलड़ पंचायत की प्रधानता करना अपने आप में कोई कम महत्वपूर्ण कार्य नहीं I अगर किसी भाई की बहुमूल्य लिखतम पर उन्होंने कभी पोचा मार भी दिया तो उसकी शिकायत Administrator महोदय से करने का एक विकल्प उपलब्ध है I इस प्रकार की टीका टिप्पणी और अभद्र भाषा के खुले प्रचार प्रसार से जाट समुदाय की शान में कोई बढ़ोतरी होने वाली नहीं है I एक तरफ तो हम जाट भाईचारे का राग अलापते नहीं थकते और दूसरी तरफ अपने ही समुदाय के सीनियर और शिक्षित भाइयों के प्रति अभद्रता और अशिष्टता करने में मर्दानगी समझते हैं जो काफी निंदनीय है I यह तो वही बात हुई कि मोहल्ले में दादा टाइप लोग किसी को कुछ भी उल्टा सीधा कहे और मोहल्ले की पंचायत को टोका टोकी का हक़ ना हो I मुझे पता है इस पोस्ट के बाद मुझे भी काफी अभद्र टिप्पणियों का सामना करना पड़ सकता है परन्तु अपने आँगन का कूड़ा तूड़े आले कोठे की पछीत मैं सरकाना भी ठीक नहीं I

उपरोक्त कथन के बाद मैं यह अवश्य कहना चाहूँगा क़ि मॉडरेटर को हटाने के हक़ में ज्यादा लोगों के मत दान के मध्य नज़र अब राजपाल जी को मॉडरेटर बने रहने का कोई नैतिक अधिकार नहीं है I वैसे भी जाटों की पंचायत की प्रधानता के लिए कभी कोई शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत व्यक्ति फिट नहीं बैठता, क्योंकि वहां जंगल का राज़ चलता है, जहाँ सिर्फ लाठी और फेफड़ों की ताकत ही योग्यता समझी जाती है I

[sanjeev_balyan]

ओहो, जाट कसूते लट्ठम लट्ठा हो रे सैं भाई I और जैसा कि मानव स्वभाव है, इस लट्ठम-लट्ठा युद्ध ने मुद्दत से सुनसान मोहल्ले में काफ़ी कुतूहल पैदा कर दिया है, जिसका भरपूर आनंद तमाशबीन टोली खूब उड़ाती नज़र आ रही है I नज़ारा कुछ यूं लगता है जैसे मोहल्ले के निठल्ले लोग सर्दी की धूप में दो मुरगों की लड़ाई का लुत्फ़ उठा रहे हों, और मोहल्ले के दादा कल्लू उस्ताद के मुर्ग़े के हर वार पर ताली पर ताली बजा रहे हों, ताकि कल्लू उस्ताद के खौफ और सींग फसाई से बचे रहें I

मुद्दे की बात करें तो मुद्दा कोई ख़ास है ही नहीं I हालांकि राजपाल जी की मोडेटरशिप उनके कार्यकाल के आखरी दिनों में मुझे भी अधिक प्रभावित नहीं कर पाई, परन्तु ऐसी कोई गंभीर शिकायत मुझे उनसे कभी नहीं रही, बावजूद इसके कि उन्होंने मेरी कुछ झरीटों पर भी थोड़ी बहुत लीपा पोती की I दूसरी बात यह है की इतने लम्बे अरसे तक बिना तनखाह के मोलड़ पंचायत की प्रधानता करना अपने आप में कोई कम महत्वपूर्ण कार्य नहीं I अगर किसी भाई की बहुमूल्य लिखतम पर उन्होंने कभी पोचा मार भी दिया तो उसकी शिकायत Administrator महोदय से करने का एक विकल्प उपलब्ध है I इस प्रकार की टीका टिप्पणी और अभद्र भाषा के खुले प्रचार प्रसार से जाट समुदाय की शान में कोई बढ़ोतरी होने वाली नहीं है I एक तरफ तो हम जाट भाईचारे का राग अलापते नहीं थकते और दूसरी तरफ अपने ही समुदाय के सीनियर और शिक्षित भाइयों के प्रति अभद्रता और अशिष्टता करने में मर्दानगी समझते हैं जो काफी निंदनीय है I यह तो वही बात हुई कि मोहल्ले में दादा टाइप लोग किसी को कुछ भी उल्टा सीधा कहे और मोहल्ले की पंचायत को टोका टोकी का हक़ ना हो I मुझे पता है इस पोस्ट के बाद मुझे भी काफी अभद्र टिप्पणियों का सामना करना पड़ सकता है परन्तु अपने आँगन का कूड़ा तूड़े आले कोठे की पछीत मैं सरकाना भी ठीक नहीं I

उपरोक्त कथन के बाद मैं यह अवश्य कहना चाहूँगा क़ि मॉडरेटर को हटाने के हक़ में ज्यादा लोगों के मत दान के मध्य नज़र अब राजपाल जी को मॉडरेटर बने रहने का कोई नैतिक अधिकार नहीं है I वैसे भी जाटों की पंचायत की प्रधानता के लिए कभी कोई शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत व्यक्ति फिट नहीं बैठता, क्योंकि वहां जंगल का राज़ चलता है, जहाँ सिर्फ लाठी और फेफड़ों की ताकत ही योग्यता समझी जाती है I



सिंह साहब , आपकी लाजबाब पोसटे भी आजकल यदा कदा ही दिखती है , इसमें आपका कसूर है या मोड्रेटर महासय के चाबुक का असर है, पता नहीं, पर जाटलैंड आपकी पोस्टो से वंचित है ,

इस तागे की तारीफ़ करनी पड़ेगी कि जाटलैंड के कई धुरंदर अरसे बाद दिखाई तो दिए और अपनी पीड़ा व्यक्त की, सुनसान मोहल्ले में कुतूहल/ हलचल तो हुई, आपके दादा कल्लू उस्ताद और एक दो और भुक्तभोगी को छोड़ दे तो किसी अन्य ने राजपाल जी के बारे में कोई असभ्य भाषा का पर्योग नहीं किया, राजपाल जी काफी सीनियर और शभय, शिष्ट इंसान है और उनके खिलाफ अभद्रता और अशिष्टता कोई मर्दानगी नहीं है, और बहुत से मेम्बर ने इसकी भर्त्सना की है

लेकिन जिसको आप तथाकथित शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत माहोल कह रहे हो वो वास्तव में अभिवयक्ति की स्वतंत्रता का हनन है, जाटलैंड परिवार को तथाकथित माहोल की जंजीरों म जकड़ना चाहोगे तो ये मोहल्ला सुनसान ही नहीं कुछ दिनो में वीरान भी हो जायेगा, फिर यंहा भजन, समाचार विश्लेसन और कॉपी पेस्ट ही हुआ करेंगे, अगर आप पहले वाली जाटलैंड को जंगल राज और वर्तमान वाली ने रामराज समझते हो तो यु रामराज आपको मुबारक,
सदभावनाओ सहित

[ravinderjeet]

ओहो, जाट कसूते लट्ठम लट्ठा हो रे सैं भाई I और जैसा कि मानव स्वभाव है, इस लट्ठम-लट्ठा युद्ध ने मुद्दत से सुनसान मोहल्ले में काफ़ी कुतूहल पैदा कर दिया है, जिसका भरपूर आनंद तमाशबीन टोली खूब उड़ाती नज़र आ रही है I नज़ारा कुछ यूं लगता है जैसे मोहल्ले के निठल्ले लोग सर्दी की धूप में दो मुरगों की लड़ाई का लुत्फ़ उठा रहे हों, और मोहल्ले के दादा कल्लू उस्ताद के मुर्ग़े के हर वार पर ताली पर ताली बजा रहे हों, ताकि कल्लू उस्ताद के खौफ और सींग फसाई से बचे रहें I

मुद्दे की बात करें तो मुद्दा कोई ख़ास है ही नहीं I हालांकि राजपाल जी की मोडेटरशिप उनके कार्यकाल के आखरी दिनों में मुझे भी अधिक प्रभावित नहीं कर पाई, परन्तु ऐसी कोई गंभीर शिकायत मुझे उनसे कभी नहीं रही, बावजूद इसके कि उन्होंने मेरी कुछ झरीटों पर भी थोड़ी बहुत लीपा पोती की I दूसरी बात यह है की इतने लम्बे अरसे तक बिना तनखाह के मोलड़ पंचायत की प्रधानता करना अपने आप में कोई कम महत्वपूर्ण कार्य नहीं I अगर किसी भाई की बहुमूल्य लिखतम पर उन्होंने कभी पोचा मार भी दिया तो उसकी शिकायत Administrator महोदय से करने का एक विकल्प उपलब्ध है I इस प्रकार की टीका टिप्पणी और अभद्र भाषा के खुले प्रचार प्रसार से जाट समुदाय की शान में कोई बढ़ोतरी होने वाली नहीं है I एक तरफ तो हम जाट भाईचारे का राग अलापते नहीं थकते और दूसरी तरफ अपने ही समुदाय के सीनियर और शिक्षित भाइयों के प्रति अभद्रता और अशिष्टता करने में मर्दानगी समझते हैं जो काफी निंदनीय है I यह तो वही बात हुई कि मोहल्ले में दादा टाइप लोग किसी को कुछ भी उल्टा सीधा कहे और मोहल्ले की पंचायत को टोका टोकी का हक़ ना हो I मुझे पता है इस पोस्ट के बाद मुझे भी काफी अभद्र टिप्पणियों का सामना करना पड़ सकता है परन्तु अपने आँगन का कूड़ा तूड़े आले कोठे की पछीत मैं सरकाना भी ठीक नहीं I

उपरोक्त कथन के बाद मैं यह अवश्य कहना चाहूँगा क़ि मॉडरेटर को हटाने के हक़ में ज्यादा लोगों के मत दान के मध्य नज़र अब राजपाल जी को मॉडरेटर बने रहने का कोई नैतिक अधिकार नहीं है I वैसे भी जाटों की पंचायत की प्रधानता के लिए कभी कोई शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत व्यक्ति फिट नहीं बैठता, क्योंकि वहां जंगल का राज़ चलता है, जहाँ सिर्फ लाठी और फेफड़ों की ताकत ही योग्यता समझी जाती है I

kaadh ge ji ki!!!!!!!!!!

[DrRajpalSingh]

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उपरोक्त कथन के बाद मैं यह अवश्य कहना चाहूँगा क़ि मॉडरेटर को हटाने के हक़ में ज्यादा लोगों के मत दान के मध्य नज़र अब राजपाल जी को मॉडरेटर बने रहने का कोई नैतिक अधिकार नहीं है I वैसे भी जाटों की पंचायत की प्रधानता के लिए कभी कोई शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत व्यक्ति फिट नहीं बैठता, क्योंकि वहां जंगल का राज़ चलता है, जहाँ सिर्फ लाठी और फेफड़ों की ताकत ही योग्यता समझी जाती है I

Friend,

Thanks for your candid opinion !

Abdicating responsibility by running away in fear of personal attacks/comments by a few well wishers of the site would be bigger immoral act if I leave it at this juncture and create vacuum.

Moreover, the betrayal of trust of anyone, is not in my nature.

Nonetheless, Criticizing the style of functioning of someone is one thing and to assume the duty of editor and moderator is another onerous task!

This is proved by the fact that I have already invited some of the friends to take up the responsibility but to the best of my knowledge, none has opted to do so by now !

The offer stands open even now,those who are interested to undertake to act as Editor/moderator, kindly come up and join the team of moderators, of course with the approval of the administrators.

[ravinderjeet]

वि. पि. जी ,
सादर नमस्कार !!!


गुरुदेव ! आप भी कती डिप्लोमेसी आली बोली बोल जावो सो, असल में आप का के कसूर ,आप का ते प्रोफैशन-अ यु स । गालियॉँ अनदर के क्रोध को निकालने और किसी को अहिंसक रूप से प्रताड़ित करने का माध्यम हैं । जब कोए आप के प्रिय की ह्त्या कर रहा हो ,और आप सभ्यता ,मृदुलता , शिष्टाचार की चादर ओढ़े रहें ,और वो उसकी ह्त्या कर के निकल जाए , तो आप का होना निरर्थक ही नहीं बल्कि दंडनीय हे । जाटलैंड पर मेने बहुत कुछ सीखा हे ,बहुत अच्छे ग्यानी दोस्त मिले ,यहाँ पर कई हीरे हैं ,थे । में तो कहता हूँ की जाटलैंड का ढंग से विस्तार किया जाये तो इस से अच्छी जगह नहीं ,मेल मिलाप की । पर अगर कोई जाटलैंड की ह्त्या कर रहा हो तो ये असहनीय हे । और हम यदि उसका विरोध ना करें ,तो हम जाट नहीं ।
--------सद्भावनाओं सहित ।

[singhvp]

वि. पि. जी ,
सादर नमस्कार !!!


गुरुदेव ! आप भी कती डिप्लोमेसी आली बोली बोल जावो सो, असल में आप का के कसूर ,आप का ते प्रोफैशन-अ यु स । गालियॉँ अनदर के क्रोध को निकालने और किसी को अहिंसक रूप से प्रताड़ित करने का माध्यम हैं । जब कोए आप के प्रिय की ह्त्या कर रहा हो ,और आप सभ्यता ,मृदुलता , शिष्टाचार की चादर ओढ़े रहें ,और वो उसकी ह्त्या कर के निकल जाए , तो आप का होना निरर्थक ही नहीं बल्कि दंडनीय हे । जाटलैंड पर मेने बहुत कुछ सीखा हे ,बहुत अच्छे ग्यानी दोस्त मिले ,यहाँ पर कई हीरे हैं ,थे । में तो कहता हूँ की जाटलैंड का ढंग से विस्तार किया जाये तो इस से अच्छी जगह नहीं ,मेल मिलाप की । पर अगर कोई जाटलैंड की ह्त्या कर रहा हो तो ये असहनीय हे । और हम यदि उसका विरोध ना करें ,तो हम जाट नहीं ।
--------सद्भावनाओं सहित ।

रविंदर जीत, प्रणाम भाई, आपकी दो बार I

चलो कोई बात नहीं, परिवार का ही मामला है, मिलकर बैठ कर सुलझा ल्यो I इस साइट नै जिन्दा राखण खातर थोड़ी नीची तो आप नै भी कींचणी पड़ेगी, आर मेरे जिसे बुजुर्ग माणस की थोड़ी लिहाज़ आर थोड़ी concession तो करणी पड़ेगी I पर एक बात तो सै आपकी एक साल के बनवास नै जाटलैंड की कमर सी तोड़ दी I इतना लम्बा नहीं रूस्या करदे I

[VirJ]

The way Dr Rajpal has conducted himself here is great. My respect for him has only increased. Guys even I was unhappy with moderation at one point but he has always provided me with reasoning whenever I have asked.

He is a valuable member here and by abusing him we are just showing our character. He is appointed by the administrator of the site and only they can remove him. You should take the case with them rather than abusing him.

I can only salute him when he said he is not going to run away. That shows his strong character. He is ready to give up his post once they have found an appropriate replacement.

Request the members to delete the abusive posts themselves. We can have difference of opinion but that doesn't mean we cannot co-exist. I can bet you if there would have been one of us in his place we would have run away by now.

[ssgoyat]

हम्बे ...... न्यू ए कती लट्ठ गाढ़े राखो, खैंच के ने ले ल्यो सार्यां ने, मॉडारेटरशिप ते भाजियो ना राजपालजी. ना ते केजरीवाल अली बना देंगे लोग आड़े।.

बाकी मौके पे चौका लगान मे घाट ते ना घाल रहे आप भी कती । बेरा से, अक किहे धोरे इतना टेम ना से आप की ज्यू, जो सारा दिन-रात होक्का ठा के बैठक मे हारा सुलगाई राखे. कोए हम्बे केहनिया नहीं पावे.. देख लियो।

जब तक कोई नया मॉडारेटर नहीं बन पता।.....तब तलक बस थोड़ा-बोहोत एक बार आप इनके/हमारे रंग मे रंगने की कोशिश कर के देखो,

थोड़ा - बोहोत हम/ये आपके रंग मे रंगने की कोशिश करेंगे। क्या पता बात घर की घर मे ही सुलट जाये .

[rskankara]

जनमत संग्रह के आकड़ों से साफ है 22 लोग मे से 16 सदस्यों ने मोडरेटर से खुश नही का बटन दबा दिया है.....| हालांकि पोल 5 दिसंबर तक खुला है... पर मोडरेटर महोदय ने बड़ी विनम्रता से इस जनमत संग्रह का आदर करते हुए तुरंत इस "पद" को त्यागने को प्रस्ताव दिया है.....और मै समझता हू कि अब वह काम चलाऊ के रूप रहेंगे... और पोस्टों में ज्यादा मोडरेशन नही करेंगे ... अब समय है कि नई सोच के नए सभापति को चुनकर... फिर से आगे की शुरूआत किया जाय.....साथ ही कुछ दिशा निर्देश भी बना ले तो ठीक रहेगा... जिससे ज्यादा मोडरेशन की जरूरत ही ना पड़े...और इस स्थिति की पुनरावृत्ति न हो.....पर इसका निर्णय कौन करेगा ....



"jatland" जैसे सशक्तं मंच की पड़े लिखे जाटों को जो दूर-सुदूर तक फैले हुए है बहुत जरूरत है... यह जाटों को जोड़ने और जानने का अच्छा अवसर देती है..विश्वास है आने बाले समय में यह पुराने सदस्य सक्रीय होंगे और अपने आचार विचारों से साइट को एक जाटों के एक प्रमुख सामाजिक मंच के रूप में और भी नए सदस्य जोड़ने में कामयाब होंगे...॥

जैसा कि कुछ सदस्यों के 'जाट-मिलन' की बात की.... उत्सुकता से इंतजार है.....

[ygulia]

Your comments are perfect for this thread. There may be complaint against a Moderator but it is not good to use bad words for him. I fully agree with your statement in the last sentence of last paragraph.


ओहो, जाट कसूते लट्ठम लट्ठा हो रे सैं भाई I और जैसा कि मानव स्वभाव है, इस लट्ठम-लट्ठा युद्ध ने मुद्दत से सुनसान मोहल्ले में काफ़ी कुतूहल पैदा कर दिया है, जिसका भरपूर आनंद तमाशबीन टोली खूब उड़ाती नज़र आ रही है I नज़ारा कुछ यूं लगता है जैसे मोहल्ले के निठल्ले लोग सर्दी की धूप में दो मुरगों की लड़ाई का लुत्फ़ उठा रहे हों, और मोहल्ले के दादा कल्लू उस्ताद के मुर्ग़े के हर वार पर ताली पर ताली बजा रहे हों, ताकि कल्लू उस्ताद के खौफ और सींग फसाई से बचे रहें I

मुद्दे की बात करें तो मुद्दा कोई ख़ास है ही नहीं I हालांकि राजपाल जी की मोडेटरशिप उनके कार्यकाल के आखरी दिनों में मुझे भी अधिक प्रभावित नहीं कर पाई, परन्तु ऐसी कोई गंभीर शिकायत मुझे उनसे कभी नहीं रही, बावजूद इसके कि उन्होंने मेरी कुछ झरीटों पर भी थोड़ी बहुत लीपा पोती की I दूसरी बात यह है की इतने लम्बे अरसे तक बिना तनखाह के मोलड़ पंचायत की प्रधानता करना अपने आप में कोई कम महत्वपूर्ण कार्य नहीं I अगर किसी भाई की बहुमूल्य लिखतम पर उन्होंने कभी पोचा मार भी दिया तो उसकी शिकायत Administrator महोदय से करने का एक विकल्प उपलब्ध है I इस प्रकार की टीका टिप्पणी और अभद्र भाषा के खुले प्रचार प्रसार से जाट समुदाय की शान में कोई बढ़ोतरी होने वाली नहीं है I एक तरफ तो हम जाट भाईचारे का राग अलापते नहीं थकते और दूसरी तरफ अपने ही समुदाय के सीनियर और शिक्षित भाइयों के प्रति अभद्रता और अशिष्टता करने में मर्दानगी समझते हैं जो काफी निंदनीय है I यह तो वही बात हुई कि मोहल्ले में दादा टाइप लोग किसी को कुछ भी उल्टा सीधा कहे और मोहल्ले की पंचायत को टोका टोकी का हक़ ना हो I मुझे पता है इस पोस्ट के बाद मुझे भी काफी अभद्र टिप्पणियों का सामना करना पड़ सकता है परन्तु अपने आँगन का कूड़ा तूड़े आले कोठे की पछीत मैं सरकाना भी ठीक नहीं I

उपरोक्त कथन के बाद मैं यह अवश्य कहना चाहूँगा क़ि मॉडरेटर को हटाने के हक़ में ज्यादा लोगों के मत दान के मध्य नज़र अब राजपाल जी को मॉडरेटर बने रहने का कोई नैतिक अधिकार नहीं है I वैसे भी जाटों की पंचायत की प्रधानता के लिए कभी कोई शिक्षित, सभ्य और सुसंस्कृत व्यक्ति फिट नहीं बैठता, क्योंकि वहां जंगल का राज़ चलता है, जहाँ सिर्फ लाठी और फेफड़ों की ताकत ही योग्यता समझी जाती है I

[rekhasmriti]

Off Topic

Hats Off to Parikshit ....3 Damn Days and u manage to pull almost everyone back ......
Kudos to you ...keep it up

[ravinderjeet]

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Hats Off to Parikshit ....3 Damn Days and u manage to pull almost everyone back ......
Kudos to you ...keep it up
रेखा बेबे ,जा राजपाल आड़े अड्या रह्या कयांए ना क्याँए का बहाना ले के ने ,ते ये बन्दे आड़े घणे दिन कोणी डटें । मन्ने सुणी स एक यू पहलम भी कई बे अस्तीफा देणं की कह चुका स ,पर देंदा कोणी । इह के विरोध में पहलम भी कई ताग्गे चाले से । यू जावे कोणी आड़े तें ,इह के बुढ़ापे का सहारा स जाटलैंड ।
कई भाई आड़े घणे डिप्लोमेटिक भी से कितनी-ए तकलीफ हो ,हमने-के , आला हिसाब रखेँ से । इस्स्याँ का वेब साइट तें कैजुअल रिस्ता स । काल बंद होंदी चाहे आज हो जावे । प्रीक्षित के भी या बात खटके थी एक नाश होणं लागर्या स ,जिब्बे ते उहने एक कोशिश मारी । बाकी घणे बैठे लखावें थे ।
---------- सद्भावनाओं सहित ।

[ravinderjeet]

u ek aur aagyaa ,ibbi nyu-a karan laagryaa s mr.intelactual.

Hello
Thanks my friend for posting my grievance on thread "Happy with moderators?" You are the only way now through which I can express my views. And thanks to the person who started this thread. In the past I did try to start a thread in the same place on the same topic but Moderator Saheb did not like criticism and did not approve my thread.

Anyhow despite so much criticism and feedback, Unfortunately harassment by Mr Rajpal Jangoo is still going on.

Yesterday I tried to post my views on one of the thread and trust me my post did not have a single thing which does not comply with JL members agreement. But still Mr Rajpal did not approve my post. I tried to reply to a fellow member post and my reply did not have anything personal or anything off topic but still moderator saheb did not approve it and nor he provided me any reason on why he did not approve my post.

It's routine affair here. I face continuous harassment by Moderator Rajpal. I tried to put my grievance in the thread "Happy with moderators" but Mr Rajpal again did not approve my post. This is just HEIGHT my friend.

One person spends some time to post views and my time is also valuable like Mr Rajpal's time. But its his style of moderator ship and bias/prejudice is killing this website every single day. A member who post his views by spending so much time get disappointed when his views do not get published. This leave members frustrated and annoyed. The other bad thing is not even a single justification is provided when my posts don't get approved by the moderator. What a SHAME!

I am sorry to pester you again but grateful if you could post my views in that thread again.

Thanks in advance

[nrao]

I voted for Dr Rajpal Singh to continue as moderator. unhe bane rahne doh.......

[Prikshit]

Naveen, You have been a member since 2004, I assume you well versed with the functioning of JL. Even I don't want anybody to be removed, simple demand is light should be thrown on content removal and imposition of ban, which is the bone of contention. Somebody is doing this, we need to figure that out. You say who is at fault? PS: a discussion is healthy if comes to a conclusion

[DrRajpalSingh]

Naveen, You have been a member since 2004, I assume you well versed with the functioning of JL. Even I don't want anybody to be removed, simple demand is light should be thrown on content removal and imposition of ban, which is the bone of contention. Somebody is doing this, we need to figure that out. You say who is at fault? PS: a discussion is healthy if comes to a conclusion

If calling a fellow names and imputing unfounded allegation is a healthy discussion !

I think, one can argue in favour of his point of view simply without using non required words against anybody also !!

I once again request the member participants in the discussion on this thread to edit their posts which contain derogatory remarks against the fellow member/s at their earliest convenience please.

Healthy discussion on any issue under the sun is welcome but kindly avoid mud slinging on one another please !

[Prikshit]

If calling a fellow names and imputing unfounded allegation is a healthy discussion !

I think, one can argue in favour of his point of view simply without using non required words against anybody also !!

I once again request the member participants in the discussion on this thread to edit their posts which contain derogatory remarks against the fellow member/s at their earliest convenience please.

Healthy discussion on any issue under the sun is welcome but kindly avoid mud slinging on one another please ! Sir, 1. You can read my posts, I haven't used any derogatory word. 2. Is post deletion/ ban on memebers not happening? If it is in place who is behind this? Regards, Prikshit

[DrRajpalSingh]

Sir, 1. You can read my posts, I haven't used any derogatory word. 2. Is post deletion/ ban on memebers not happening? If it is in place who is behind this? Regards, Prikshit

I fully endorse your view that you have not used any derogatory words.

The above remark in my post pertains to many of the posts in this thread and they are in place for any one to read.

Bring one example/case of ban by me, I shall be thankful to you.

If it is not there, then, what is the justification for use of 'foul' language against one particular person by a few fellow jatland.com members!

Thanks and regards,

[DrRajpalSingh]

जनमत संग्रह के आकड़ों से साफ है 22 लोग मे से 16 सदस्यों ने मोडरेटर से खुश नही का बटन दबा दिया है.....| हालांकि पोल 5 दिसंबर तक खुला है... पर मोडरेटर महोदय ने बड़ी विनम्रता से इस जनमत संग्रह का आदर करते हुए तुरंत इस "पद" को त्यागने को प्रस्ताव दिया है.....और मै समझता हू कि अब वह काम चलाऊ के रूप रहेंगे... और पोस्टों में ज्यादा मोडरेशन नही करेंगे ... अब समय है कि नई सोच के नए सभापति को चुनकर... फिर से आगे की शुरूआत किया जाय.....साथ ही कुछ दिशा निर्देश भी बना ले तो ठीक रहेगा... जिससे ज्यादा मोडरेशन की जरूरत ही ना पड़े...और इस स्थिति की पुनरावृत्ति न हो.....पर इसका निर्णय कौन करेगा ....



"jatland" जैसे सशक्तं मंच की पड़े लिखे जाटों को जो दूर-सुदूर तक फैले हुए है बहुत जरूरत है... यह जाटों को जोड़ने और जानने का अच्छा अवसर देती है..विश्वास है आने बाले समय में यह पुराने सदस्य सक्रीय होंगे और अपने आचार विचारों से साइट को एक जाटों के एक प्रमुख सामाजिक मंच के रूप में और भी नए सदस्य जोड़ने में कामयाब होंगे...॥

जैसा कि कुछ सदस्यों के 'जाट-मिलन' की बात की.... उत्सुकता से इंतजार है.....

Though I was not elected at the time of assuming charge, yet I have full regard for democratic functioning everywhere. The voting continues up to 3rd December, 2014 and none can predict the final outcome of the voting; but I am not inclined to keep sticking to the post of editor.

Contrary to general impression being created by a few detractors, I reiterate that I have no intention to cling any longer as ad hoc or full time editor for ever.

Rather, I am willing and ready for smooth handing over the work to next better suitable person; but tragedy is none is ready to come forward.

Is there any taker !!!

Yes, casting aspersions on my style and my person continues by a few person.

That is why in spite of adverse comments, situation and conditions not amiable, I have to be with you as editor and also a fellow participant in discussions.

I wish increase in number of active participants and progress of the site by leaps and bounds. Some friends have undertaken to invite old friends, that is laudable action on their part.

Let us hope that their efforts will surely succeed !

[vk23]

Though I was not elected at the time of assuming charge, yet I have full regard for democratic functioning everywhere. The voting continues up to 3rd December, 2014 and none can predict the final outcome of the voting; but I am not inclined to keep sticking to the post of editor.

Contrary to general impression being created by a few detractors, I reiterate that I have no intention to cling any longer as ad hoc or full time editor for ever.

Rather, I am willing and ready for smooth handing over the work to next better suitable person; but tragedy is none is ready to come forward.

Is there any taker !!!

Yes, casting aspersions on my style and my person continues by a few person.

That is why in spite of adverse comments, situation and conditions not amiable, I have to be with you as editor and also a fellow participant in discussions.

I wish increase in number of active participants and progress of the site by leaps and bounds. Some friends have undertaken to invite old friends, that is laudable action on their part.

Let us hope that their efforts will surely succeed !

Hand over this work to me if no one else is taking ownership. There won't be a suppression of views and opinions anymore.

[ravinderjeet]

१) श्री राजपाल ,आप पर जो आरोप लगते आ रहे हैं ,और एक नहीं , अनेक लोगों ने लगाए हैं ,आप उनका जबाब क्यों नहीं देते ?
२) आप कहते हैं की आप ने किसी को बेन नहीं किया ,ठीक हे ,आपने कितनो को मोडरेसन पर डाला ,और क्यों डाला , उसका जबाब दे दो ।
३) मुझे ३ महीने तक मोडरेसन पर रखा ,क्यों ?क्या कारण था ? मेने आप को लिखा , आपने कहा, आपने कुछ नहीं किया ,उस समय आप के सिवाय यहां पर कोई मॉडरेटर एक्टिव नहीं था ,तो फिर कौन कर रहा था ?
४) सत्येस्वर को लिखा , कोई जबाब नहीं , क्यों ?
५) इतना विरोध होने के बावजूद आज भी आप दबा कर मोडरेसन कर रहे हैं ,क्यों ?
६) यहां कभी कोई हेंडिंग/टेकिंग ओवर नहीं हुयी ,फिर भी आप कह रहे हैं की कोई ले लेगा तो में छोड़ दूंगा । बहाने ढूंढ-ढूंढ कर चिपके हुए हैं ,क्यों ?
७) जब आप गलत कर रहे थे ,तब आप ने नहीं सोचा की गालियां भी पड़ सकती हैं ,अब अनअपरोप्रिएट शब्दों को हटाने की बात कर रहे हो क्यों ?
८) आपको मोडरेसन की सवतंत्रता हे ,हमें लिखने की नहीं ,क्यों ?


जबाब जरूर दीजिये , और सीधे शब्दों में , घुमा-घुमा के बात हमें करनी नहीं आती ,पर समझ में जरूर आती हे ।

[ravinderjeet]

यहां पर मूक प्रताड़ित लोग बहुत हैं , वे ना वोट डालते हैं , ना विरोध में लिखते हैं ,पर मुझे फोन करते हैं । कल एक भाई का फोन आया वो कह रहा था की राजपाल अपने आप को हरयाणा विधान सभा का अध्यक्ष समझते हैं । हा हा हा हा ,समय बीतने दो और लोग भी लिखेंगे और आप पर हँसेंगे । अगर ये धागा चलता रहा तो । हम रहें या ना रहें ,पर आएँगी हमारी सदायें , जमाने तक ।
------- सद्भावनाओं सहित ।

[ravinderjeet]

I fully endorse your view that you have not used any derogatory words.

The above remark in my post pertains to many of the posts in this thread and they are in place for any one to read.

Bring one example/case of ban by me, I shall be thankful to you.

If it is not there, then, what is the justification for use of 'foul' language against one particular person by a few fellow jatland.com members!

Thanks and regards,

जो अपनी गलतियाँ नहीं मानते ,वे कभी नहीं सुधरते !!!!

[ravinderjeet]

Though I was not elected at the time of assuming charge, yet I have full regard for democratic functioning everywhere. The voting continues up to 3rd December, 2014 and none can predict the final outcome of the voting; but I am not inclined to keep sticking to the post of editor.

Contrary to general impression being created by a few detractors, I reiterate that I have no intention to cling any longer as ad hoc or full time editor for ever.

Rather, I am willing and ready for smooth handing over the work to next better suitable person; but tragedy is none is ready to come forward.

Is there any taker !!!

Yes, casting aspersions on my style and my person continues by a few person.

That is why in spite of adverse comments, situation and conditions not amiable, I have to be with you as editor and also a fellow participant in discussions.

I wish increase in number of active participants and progress of the site by leaps and bounds. Some friends have undertaken to invite old friends, that is laudable action on their part.

Let us hope that their efforts will surely succeed !

You are the one ,who derail the site ,so many said that the Jatland is almost dead becouse of you.सुनते नहीं हो !!!!

[skharb]

As jat site jl p sakhhatti jaroori thi kyu ki kuch log sirf bjp k doom/bhadwe theyy arr unko lagam lagni jarrori thi sub k vichar janne k liye !

[ssgoyat]

You are the one ,who derail the site ,so many said that the Jatland is almost dead becouse of you.सुनते नहीं हो !!!!

या तो न्*यू ए चाल्*लेगी.....:stupid:

[nrao]

Though I was not elected at the time of assuming charge, yet I have full regard for democratic functioning everywhere. The voting continues up to 3rd December, 2014 and none can predict the final outcome of the voting; but I am not inclined to keep sticking to the post of editor.

Contrary to general impression being created by a few detractors, I reiterate that I have no intention to cling any longer as ad hoc or full time editor for ever.

Rather, I am willing and ready for smooth handing over the work to next better suitable person; but tragedy is none is ready to come forward.

Is there any taker !!!

Yes, casting aspersions on my style and my person continues by a few person.

That is why in spite of adverse comments, situation and conditions not amiable, I have to be with you as editor and also a fellow participant in discussions.

I wish increase in number of active participants and progress of the site by leaps and bounds. Some friends have undertaken to invite old friends, that is laudable action on their part.

Let us hope that their efforts will surely succeed !

Rajpal ji please continue as you do always. Yeh sara rola rajniti aaali dhaage ka sa. Gine chune hain. A suggestion if you care: put those threads on moderation for everybody. Only 1 post per person allowed per day, except moderator. Jisne pasand na, woh nyaari dukaan khol le (I learnt it from Col Malik). Hope it helps.

[ssgoyat]

Only 1 post per person allowed per day, except moderator. Jisne pasand na, woh nyaari dukaan khol le (I learnt it from Col Malik). Hope it helps.

Great learning.

One more such suggestion: Every member should be allowed just 5 minutes to stay in logged in phase. Offcourse 'except moderator'. JL should kick the members active user session (or may be IP) auto-out, till next day. However, their login can continue in guest session.

Freedom of speech & expression should not be abused. Right !

[nrao]

Great learning.

One more such suggestion: Every member should be allowed just 5 minutes to stay in logged in phase. Offcourse 'except moderator'. JL should kick the members active user session (or may be IP) auto-out, till next day. However, their login can continue in guest session.

Freedom of speech & expression should not be abused. Right !

Not right at all !!
That is what moderation is and it was only a suggestion since only political threads were becoming heated. It is to bring down tone of some of them. It is a well known moderation technique and is used quite a bit. We do not have to follow it.

Rest of your suggestions are beyond me.

[ssgoyat]

Not right at all !!
That is what moderation is and it was only a suggestion since only political threads were becoming heated. It is to bring down tone of some of them. It is a well known moderation technique and is used quite a bit. We do not have to follow it.

Rest of your suggestions are beyond me.

Ohh, i missed a thing to align with your views. :victorious:
Five minute session only for political (heated) threads, marked as temporary flagged for strict moderation at moderators discretion.

[vk23]

Supression and opression are two biggest killer found in India. The atmosphere around us is so convoluted that things will never move easily and pose severe restriction on the progress. Be it Indian markets or be it social freedom. People are grown in such a atmosphere where prejudice and too much regulation is norm. For girls, you cannot go out after this time. You cannot wear such clothes. Interacting with elders you need to have a proper protocol otherwise you are being disrespectful. This is just one aspect of regulation.

Other aspect is our government which control a lot. Government unnecessary regulation on agriculture, mining, retail, real estate, markets etc is another aspect of freedom. Such control pose a serious danger of people lives. We are so obsessed with control, regulation, we cannot think anyfurther than this. There are so many taboo topics in our country which impact everyone lives. But no one want to touch them due to such an enclosed mentality. Acceptance for openness is not there. People look down upon you if you discuss such topics. Same story is here as well. Moderator saheb is so obessed with regulation, he cannot think beyond restriction. He does not know if you tightly control a social forum like this then you are defeating the purpose of social forum. I hope some sense will prevail and moderator saheb will learn something(Oh sorry, Moderator saheb is elder to me, how come he can learn from anyone). In the patriarchal society, how dare you question and talk like this!

[Prikshit]

I fully endorse your view that you have not used any derogatory words.

The above remark in my post pertains to many of the posts in this thread and they are in place for any one to read.

Bring one example/case of ban by me, I shall be thankful to you.

If it is not there, then, what is the justification for use of 'foul' language against one particular person by a few fellow jatland.com members!

Thanks and regards,
Are members here lying about post deletion/delay in posting a thread/ a temporary ban? Are all after moderator for no reason? Please come clear point by point.
1) Is it not happening?
2) Who is doing this, if not you?
3) You(Moderator) play no role in it?
4) What is the way out to this problem?

PS: I had already requested and once again requesting not to use foul language for anyone here.

[VirJ]

It appears that a few members were put on moderation and they couldn't post. From memory if you get 3 points infration you are on moderation and if you get one more you cannot post.

Jatland is facing lot of competition from other social media and if it has to survive we have to change the way we treat our members.

Without members a website is nothing. Banning or putting a member on moderation should be the last resort and especially if the member is the likes of Ravinder Jeet Singh. He has the capibility to run the whole website on his own. Sometime we all get involved too much in the discussion and it become heated but rather than banning members just delete the abusive language. Another thing is if a discussion goes little bit 'off-topis' let it be. Lot of the topics are inter-linked and you dont want to start a new thread every minute.

[ssgoyat]

.

With due respect but Dr Rajpal Ji poll results clearly shows JL janta is not happy with your way of moderation.
So you must take the moral responsibility and step down.
I might sound a bit harsh but that's the fact before Satyeshwer asks you to resign do it yourself.

Nothing personal here.

Cheers!


Wooops!!

Not so easily Man. Our beloved friend is catching up swiftly from just 1 vote to 12 votes now. Whereas against has inched by just 1. But, its remarkable and worth appreciating that our friend has muscled up against any act of mutiny/sabotage.

Voters seems to be divided with a tough choice to make.

Yes: Those who've never been banned/moderated. Hence, they're happily enjoying being 'off the radar'...'off the hook". And in all likelihood, they have a sense of feel that they'll continue to enjoy this privilege under the able command of Dr. Saheb (by posting goody-goody here).

No: Those who've been moderated/banned without being warned (or given a chance), plus their friends who missed having them around.
Onlookers: Who haven't voted yet, but enjoying the show. They'll vote later....'go with the flow' types.

[anilsangwan]

Bogus voting here too ...12 votes in favor... can not be true.

Pakistan mein nawaz Shareef kursi chhodega ke? danda aa ra s uske bhi par kati nahi chhodta. :triumphant:

[ssgoyat]

@ Prikshit,

Could you pls recall, if while throwing open the poll for voters. You had given the option to view who polled against, and who infavor?

Anil Sangwan may be right, i suspect it fishy too....:suspicion:

[Prikshit]

@ Prikshit,

Could you pls recall, if while throwing open the poll for voters. You had given the option to view who polled against, and who infavor?

Anil Sangwan may be right, i suspect it fishy too....:suspicion:
No, I didn't select that option. Was not aware that bogus thing may happen here. I guess we don't have an option to edit it later.

[anilsangwan]

Backend tein pump kar diya laage s admin ne...


No, I didn't select that option. Was not aware that bogus thing may happen here. I guess we don't have an option to edit it later.

[ssgoyat]

Backend tein pump kar diya laage s admin ne...

कदे मत्रिमोनियल अल्यान तही न्यू ते नहीं केह दी, अक जद तही मेरे नाम की पर्ची नहीं गेरोगे, इतने नई प्रोफाइल दिक्खन ना द्यु।.

के फर पुराने खुये होडे मेंबरा के पासवर्ड रिसेट करके उनके नाम ते पर्ची गेड दी हो।.

ईब तो राम ने ए बेरा के सौद्दा से यू।.

[vikasJAT]

Rajpal ji please continue as you do always. Yeh sara rola rajniti aaali dhaage ka sa. Gine chune hain. A suggestion if you care: put those threads on moderation for everybody. Only 1 post per person allowed per day, except moderator. Jisne pasand na, woh nyaari dukaan khol le (I learnt it from Col Malik). Hope it helps.

Re bhai tere jisse 2-4 or aage to ho liya JL ka kalyan.

[vikasJAT]

meri b bot sari post delete hui hain.............bot sari edit hui hain or ********* bhare gye hain. lekin usi thread me kuch or b the jinki koi b post na edit hui or delete, rules to sabke liye same the. us time moderator koi tha lekin unka decision galat tha. us din k baad se maine post krna he chod diya kyuki office time me chori chupke JL k liye post likho or vo b delte ki jye to koi time waste krna. maine post likhna he chod diya......kabhi kabhi online aata hu jokes dekh kr vapas kyuki likhne ka yha koi fayda ni.

[vikasJAT]

Yaha par kuch buddhijeevi members bhi hai...jo apne gyana ke bojh ke neeche dabe hue hai....agar koi unse jawaab-talab kare to unke ahankaar ko thesh lagti hai...........abhi kuch din pehle ek sahab laal-peele ho gaye the..he did not want to learn anything from Israel..;)

sahi baat kahi bhai aade kuch bot gyani log hain.

ek baar ka hadsa main b batau bhai, chaupal me ek din haryana me jamin k rate ki baat chal padi, mane ek jagah ka rate bataya ki bhai itna rate chalra hai, udde ek gyani bhai baitha tha, us rate per e ladai karan lgya bola tane k bera k rate hain, humare kille to na gye itne k......to bhai aade us gyani jise kai manmohan baithe hain jo apne aap ne sarva gyani mane hain. ise ise ***** aadmiya ki vajah te b chaupal me members ne aana band kr diya.

[cooljat]

Not at all .. Definitely not !

We don't want to see JL turning into Secular Land or Minority Forum.





Hand over this work to me if no one else is taking ownership. There won't be a suppression of views and opinions anymore.

[cooljat]

It's bogus voting.
I could see only couple of posts in favour of Dr Rajpal Singh Ji's moderatorship and 12 vote in favour, hard to digest.

Wooops!!

Not so easily Man. Our beloved friend is catching up swiftly from just 1 vote to 12 votes now. Whereas against has inched by just 1. But, its remarkable and worth appreciating that our friend has muscled up against any act of mutiny/sabotage.

Voters seems to be divided with a tough choice to make.

Yes: Those who've never been banned/moderated. Hence, they're happily enjoying being 'off the radar'...'off the hook". And in all likelihood, they have a sense of feel that they'll continue to enjoy this privilege under the able command of Dr. Saheb (by posting goody-goody here).

No: Those who've been moderated/banned without being warned (or given a chance), plus their friends who missed having them around.
Onlookers: Who haven't voted yet, but enjoying the show. They'll vote later....'go with the flow' types.

[login4vinay]

Rajpal ji please continue as you do always. Yeh sara rola rajniti aaali dhaage ka sa. Gine chune hain. A suggestion if you care: put those threads on moderation for everybody. Only 1 post per person allowed per day, except moderator. Jisne pasand na, woh nyaari dukaan khol le (I learnt it from Col Malik). Hope it helps.

ya baat h to pher site hosting walo ka bhi kharcha bachaya ja sake h.. iska IP add block karwa k isne Moderator k system pe hi chalwa de..
fer wo hi akele naye naye thread start kara karege. wo hi Post koi against me bhi na likhe kuch..are tu TeamViewer se connect ho k check kar liya kariye...:applause:

[DrRajpalSingh]

It's bogus voting.
I could see only couple of posts in favour of Dr Rajpal Singh Ji's moderatorship and 12 vote in favour, hard to digest.

''It is bogus voting'' !

Really, is it so !!

Thanks Friend for your candid opinion and conclusion on the issue.

[nrao]

I voted for Dr Rajpal Singh to continue as moderator because last year during discussion on ancient history, I ended up on the opposite side of him during discussion and he did a good job at that time. At times, I got quite upset with his postings as well. Going back to that discussion, I must admit that at no time did he lower his arguments with me or admonish me. Even though I may have posted something in wrong tone. Those posts are still there in History thread. He is very knowledgeable and conducts himself well. I ended up learning from him and his arguments during that time. He did a very good job then, hence my vote for him as moderator.

[amankadian]

I voted for Dr Rajpal Singh to continue as moderator because last year during discussion on ancient history, I ended up on the opposite side of him during discussion and he did a good job at that time. At times, I got quite upset with his postings as well. Going back to that discussion, I must admit that at no time did he lower his arguments with me or admonish me. Even though I may have posted something in wrong tone. Those posts are still there in History thread. He is very knowledgeable and conducts himself well. I ended up learning from him and his arguments during that time. He did a very good job then, hence my vote for him as moderator.


I was 1st who voted for Rajpal ji. Now there are 14 members also. I just voted him because I never had problem with him.

Nothing Personal. I don't know about others. May be they're getting some problem with post. Can't comment on that matter because I don't know the reality of this matter. I know only that I never had any problem with posts.

[agodara]

I also voted for rajpal jangoo.he deleted my one post and that deserved to get deleted.it had some offencive words about muslims
i have no problem with rajpal jangoo as mod
bus unki post padhte waqt oxford ki dictionary sath me rakhti hai:sorrow:

[vk23]

Not at all .. Definitely not !

We don't want to see JL turning into Secular Land or Minority Forum.
[SIZE=3]
Sure. Let mr Rajpal to continue as a moderator because no one is taking ownership. I have no interest in being a moderator. It was just an attempt to get rid of an authoritarian regime. Otherwise Mr Rajpal will never step down. He is enjoying and misusing power.[/SIZE=3]

[deshi-jat]

I strongly recommend that Dr Rajpal to continue as a moderator. He is a scholar, he has written books, numerous research articles in peer reviewed international journals. I sure he would have been reviewer and in editorial board of reputed history journals. So he is well experienced at editing and reviewing. We should feel honored that he is doing this job for jatland. Therefore, I have voted in his favor.

[spdeshwal]

Dear Dr. Rajpal Ji!

Let me congratulate you for not giving in to kind of pressor you facing from some of our very popular members!
I have been a moderator myself but didn't last more than two weeks!
One thing I can recall from that short experience is that we have no clear cut policies or guiding factors for a moderator to follow and function!
We have some broad guidelines that form the kind of code of conduct on this forum but does't necessarily guides you on day to day bases when viewing and rewiewing threads and posts!
That means, it all depends on the 'VIvek' of the moderator! That means it all depends on the way a moderator perceive and feels about the writings and conduct of various members!

This is an open forum and things needs to be discussed openly!
May I request to you educate members on the main criterion you follow for:

1) Moderating/ editing a post?
2)Moderating a member?
3) Putting a Temporary ban on a member?
4) Banning a member permanently!

I would request you to answer these by giving some examples!
Examples like, why Ravinderjeet was put on Moderation for three months?

Hope this would not be inconvenient for you to reply these questions!
I believe moderation needs to be transparent and questions needs to be answered!
This survey may help the admin to make up his mind but not this forum. For example, I have voted in your favour( I have actually voted for you) but my opinion may change!

Finally, Jatland is facing tough competition from FB and needs more liberal attitude! Posts may be deleted, edited only for vulgarity, abusive language only!
Here I would also request the members to respect the moderator for his age and background, which is our 'Tehjib'!


Cheers!

[vk23]

Dear Dr. Rajpal Ji!

Let me congratulate you for not giving in to kind of pressor you facing from some of our very popular members!
I have been a moderator myself but didn't last more than two weeks!
One thing I can recall from that short experience is that we have no clear cut policies or guiding factors for a moderator to follow and function!
We have some broad guidelines that form the kind of code of conduct on this forum but does't necessarily guides you on day to day bases when viewing and rewiewing threads and posts!
That means, it all depends on the 'VIvek' of the moderator! That means it all depends on the way a moderator perceive and feels about the writings and conduct of various members!

This is an open forum and things needs to be discussed openly!
May I request to you educate members on the main criterion you follow for:

1) Moderating/ editing a post?
2)Moderating a member?
3) Putting a Temporary ban on a member?
4) Banning a member permanently!

I would request you to answer these by giving some examples!
Examples like, why Ravinderjeet was put on Moderation for three months?

Hope this would not be inconvenient for you to reply these questions!
I believe moderation needs to be transparent and questions needs to be answered!
This survey may help the admin to make up his mind but not this forum. For example, I have voted in your favour( I have actually voted for you) but my opinion may change!

Finally, Jatland is facing tough competition from FB and needs more liberal attitude! Posts may be deleted, edited only for vulgarity, abusive language only!
Here I would also request the members to respect the moderator for his age and background, which is our 'Tehjib'!


Cheers!

Yes Sir ji, Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Let me share my experience on this website. There is a very less tolerance here about expressing your opinion on some trivial issues country is facing. I initially expressed my opinion on Kashmir Issue and moderator sahib did not like my opinion and gave me the infraction. In India you allow separatist leaders to hold conferences. In India, reputed journalist also raise the same questions around Kashmir issue. There is no ban on expressing opinion there. How come this website is so restricted where there is no tolerance for opposing views.

After first infraction, I got second infraction on condemning moderator sahib action on deleting my views and moving my thread without my consent. Again my post did not have anything offensive or a personal remark or off topic. While condemning for such action, I did not use any offensive language. Moderator sahib does not like any criticism whatsoever. And he gave me straight second infraction. I did not know how this website operates and moderator sahib put on moderation list after that.

Now on day to day basis, I post my views on different topics. While some of them don't get published and rest of them get published in a day or two. For those which don't get published, I don't get any justification whatsoever so that I may improve myself if I am doing something wrong. No feedback whatsoever is provided to me. The another grief I have is , I can't edit my post after submitting them. After submitting my post, I get a simple confirmation message that your post will be reviewed by a moderator.

Once post appears on the site after 1-2 days, I cannot edit my post if it has some errors. Double whammy. I don't know whether my post will be published in a day or two. By the time my post get published, my post becomes irrelevant to the thread as discussion moved on. I can't be part of normal discussion here. Such type of daily harassment is a norm here. Also at times, I have found unnecessary interference from moderator. Moderator moves your thread to somewhere and then cross question on well understood words. Now one can imagine in what direction this website is heading to. I haven't come across a single social website where you will find this type of interfere and restriction on posting views. Just insane!

[DrRajpalSingh]

I think it is wrong to give undue importance to an humble member of the site like me to give so much valuable space on one of the proudest sites of the community which is functioning in a democratic manner and serving as home away from home for the Jats spread around the globe.

I thank all the participants in the discussion whether for or against moderator and appeal all of you to come forward with your valuable participation on relevant forums/sub-furms/threads to further enrich the contents of our beloved jatland.com with open minds.

[DrRajpalSingh]

Dear Dr. Rajpal Ji!

------------------------
This is an open forum and things needs to be discussed openly!
May I request to you educate members on the main criterion you follow for:

1) Moderating/ editing a post?
2)Moderating a member?
3) Putting a Temporary ban on a member?
4) Banning a member permanently!

I would request you to answer these by giving some examples!
Examples like, why Ravinderjeet was put on Moderation for three months?

Hope this would not be inconvenient for you to reply these questions!
I believe moderation needs to be transparent and questions needs to be answered!
This survey may help the admin to make up his mind but not this forum. For example, I have voted in your favour( I have actually voted for you) but my opinion may change!

Finally, Jatland is facing tough competition from FB and needs more liberal attitude! Posts may be deleted, edited only for vulgarity, abusive language only!
Here I would also request the members to respect the moderator for his age and background, which is our 'Tehjib'!

-----------------------Cheers!

Friend,


Kindly permit me to say that I have no hesitation in sharing with friends some of my random thoughts on the issues raised during the course of last few days' discussion on this thread. First I take up 4 points raised by you, of course, to give example of individual cases would not be in the interest of either of the sides involved. But after one goes carefully through what has been scribed below, one would be able to avoid falling prey to pitfalls being discussed:

1. The editing/moderation is done on the site on violation of agreement signed between the members and the site.

Members can read the same by visiting: http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?21490-Member-Agreement-PLEASE-READ

Points 2. 3 and 4.


Editor has no power to put a member on ban of any type whether temporary or permanent. It is done by a team of several members at the highest level of administration who control the functioning of the site. Even the award of infraction to any one is not sole right enjoyed by the editor; it is reviewed, approved or unapproved on merit of each case by the higher body.

Lastly, I take the opportunity to share on the basis of my experience during the course of a few years association with the Jatland.Com as member and for a few moths as editor that most democratic, transparent method is adopted to safe-guard its members individual rights of free expression of their opinions to the extent that they do not impinge upon rights of other fellow members.

Full transparency is adopted in dealing with each case of violation of the norms either reported by the concerned members or brought to notice of the editors/administrators.

First the member is advised to acquaint himself of the guidelines for members and requested to follow them. On continued violation a member is initially awarded infraction for a limited time and informed for the reason of doing so followed by advice/warning to behave in his future discussion.

If violation continues unabated, the warnings/pieces of advice to follow the rules continues till the time the concerned member ends in inviting temporary ban in the form of putting oneself on 'moderation'.

Those members who are put on 'moderation' or are banned given every opportunity to improve and are informed about the next action of the decision makers before hand.

What more transparency is required when individual is given information through personal messages at every step as and when he acts contrary to accepted norms.

To know what invites ban on a member, kindly log :

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?9515-This-kind-of-message-WILL-GET-YOU-BANNED!!&p=194645#post194645

Another thread to be read by the members to enlighten themselves is :

http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?28170-Civilized-discussion-guidelines-at-JATland-!!!

If some of the doubts in the minds of the members about the functioning of site on non-democratic lines or non transparent manner or on the whims and fancies of 'Moderator'/'Administrators etc. are removed by this post sooner than later, I think the purpose of this post as well as the thread will be more than achieved.


Thanks and regards

[DrRajpalSingh]

Yes Sir ji, Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Let me share my experience on this website. There is a very less tolerance here about expressing your opinion on some trivial issues country is facing. I initially expressed my opinion on Kashmir Issue and moderator sahib did not like my opinion and gave me the infraction. In India you allow separatist leaders to hold conferences. In India, reputed journalist also raise the same questions around Kashmir issue. There is no ban on expressing opinion there. How come this website is so restricted where there is no tolerance for opposing views.

After first infraction, I got second infraction on condemning moderator sahib action on deleting my views and moving my thread without my consent. Again my post did not have anything offensive or a personal remark or off topic. While condemning for such action, I did not use any offensive language. Moderator sahib does not like any criticism whatsoever. And he gave me straight second infraction. I did not know how this website operates and moderator sahib put on moderation list after that.

Now on day to day basis, I post my views on different topics. While some of them don't get published and rest of them get published in a day or two. For those which don't get published, I don't get any justification whatsoever so that I may improve myself if I am doing something wrong. No feedback whatsoever is provided to me. The another grief I have is , I can't edit my post after submitting them. After submitting my post, I get a simple confirmation message that your post will be reviewed by a moderator.

Once post appears on the site after 1-2 days, I cannot edit my post if it has some errors. Double whammy. I don't know whether my post will be published in a day or two. By the time my post get published, my post becomes irrelevant to the thread as discussion moved on. I can't be part of normal discussion here. Such type of daily harassment is a norm here. Also at times, I have found unnecessary interference from moderator. Moderator moves your thread to somewhere and then cross question on well understood words. Now one can imagine in what direction this website is heading to. I haven't come across a single social website where you will find this type of interfere and restriction on posting views. Just insane!

Friend,

The site has 21,384 members and out of them just 3 are on moderation list including your goodself.

Instead of alleging me or the site management in general and myself in particular, kindly introspect and find out the real reasons, amend and enjoy good participation.

None would interfere with your posts if you do so, it is my pious hope.

Thanks and best wishes.

[DrRajpalSingh]

Ram ram bhai ! Katwa do rogg aaj !!

Sangwan Sahib,

Since Mr Ravinderjeet Singh has already declined the offer; and Vishal Kumar [VK23] is not acceptable to another member on account of his 'VIEWS' on certain topics/subjects/issues.


I take the opportunity to request the decision makers to consider Shri Sangwan ji, a senior member and seasoned paarticipant of the site to take over this work at the earliest possible.

With regards and best wishes

[vk23]

Friend,

The site has 21,384 members and out of them just 3 are on moderation list including your goodself.

Instead of alleging me or the site management in general and myself in particular, kindly introspect and find out the real reasons, amend and enjoy good participation.

None would interfere with your posts if you do so, it is my pious hope.

Thanks and best wishes.

Out of 21,384 members, how many members visit this site regularly and how many members post regularly?

Rather than directing me to find out the reason, could you please take some pain and let me know the reason of not approving my posts? If I know the reason, I can try to improve myself. In my opinion, all of my posts must be approved. Now its your responsibility as moderator to explain me why you did not approve my post.

Can you also explain, why I am on the moderation list while others not? and Who had put me on moderation list? You or someone else?

[Sure]

Went through the thread and unable to resist my self, i am sorry for my views if these are going to hurt someone.
शिक्षित होने का मतलब कभी भी येनहीं होता की वो समझदार है और समझदार का मतलब कहीं भी ये नहीं है की वो अच्छा आदमीही होगा.
आदमीकितना भी होशियार, चालाक और म्रद्युभासी हो ऊसके चरित्र का आभास ऊसके कार्येकलापोंद्वारा लोगों को पता लग ही जाता है. ये जरूरी नहीं की जो लोग चुप रहतें हैं वोकुच्छ समझते नहीं.

[ravinderjeet]

Bogus voting here too ...12 votes in favor... can not be true.

Pakistan mein nawaz Shareef kursi chhodega ke? danda aa ra s uske bhi par kati nahi chhodta. :triumphant:

पाछले २-३ दिन में आई से सारी वोट ,मैंने इस्सा लाग्गे से अक किहे ने हाथ पाँ जोड़ के इज़्ज़त बचाण की गुहार लाइ स ।

[prashantacmet]

Sangwan Sahib,

Since Mr Ravinderjeet Singh has already declined the offer; and Vishal Kumar [VK23] is not acceptable to another member on account of his 'VIEWS' on certain topics/subjects/issues.


I take the opportunity to request the decision makers to consider Shri Sangwan ji, a senior member and seasoned paarticipant of the site to take over this work at the earliest possible.

With regards and best wishes

anil bhai...bilkul sahi aadmi hai moderatorship ke liye.......par shayad anil bhai moderatorship ke liye time na nikaal paaye...kyoun anil bhai?

VP ji aur RK ji bhi theek rahenge iss kaam ke liye

[prashantacmet]

पाछले २-३ दिन में आई से सारी वोट ,मैंने इस्सा लाग्गे से अक किहे ने हाथ पाँ जोड़ के इज़्ज़त बचाण की गुहार लाइ स ।

ravinder bhai..17-21 chal raha hai score........baaki aap garam dal ke hai..par moderatorship badhiya karoge ..aisa mujhe lagta hai..sunita hooda bhi bahut badhiya moderatorship karke gayi thi

[ravinderjeet]

Sangwan Sahib,

Since Mr Ravinderjeet Singh has already declined the offer; and Vishal Kumar [VK23] is not acceptable to another member on account of his 'VIEWS' on certain topics/subjects/issues.


I take the opportunity to request the decision makers to consider Shri Sangwan ji, a senior member and seasoned paarticipant of the site to take over this work at the earliest possible.

With regards and best wishes

में अनिल सांगवान ऊर्फ लीला ( जेळी आळा जाट ) ,और विपिन ज्ञानी दोनों के नाम का समर्थन करता हूँ । इन् दोनों को सुधारक ( मॉडरेटर ) का काम दिया जाए ताकि ये उपलब्ध समय के अनुसार सेवा दे सकें । अगर ये नहीं मानते तो ४-५ नाम चला लो( डॉ राजपाल को छोड़कर ) ,उनपे मतदान हो जाए ,और जिन दो जन को अधिक मत मिलें उनको एक जिम्मेदार सदस्य होने के नाते बिना किसी ना नुकर के जिम्मेवारी निभानी पड़ेगी ।

[anilsangwan]

????? Are you out searching for the moderators? I believe owners of this site can do that better. You need not suggest me at least.



Sangwan Sahib,

Since Mr Ravinderjeet Singh has already declined the offer; and Vishal Kumar [VK23] is not acceptable to another member on account of his 'VIEWS' on certain topics/subjects/issues.


I take the opportunity to request the decision makers to consider Shri Sangwan ji, a senior member and seasoned paarticipant of the site to take over this work at the earliest possible.

With regards and best wishes

[anilsangwan]

Yes bro, you know my situation better than anyone here. I totally agree with the names you have suggested below.


anil bhai...bilkul sahi aadmi hai moderatorship ke liye.......par shayad anil bhai moderatorship ke liye time na nikaal paaye...kyoun anil bhai?

VP ji aur RK ji bhi theek rahenge iss kaam ke liye

[prashantacmet]

Rajpal ji is a civilized, diplomatic and a polite person but he need to adopt more flexibility in his decisions. One post should be edited only if it has foul language or reported by members. In case ,one posts are put on moderation , it should be for a week or two, it seems unfair to moderate one posts for months.

[ravinderjeet]

Backend tein pump kar diya laage s admin ne...


हूँ ,कई मांणस घने मीठे होया करें ,पर वे आगे जा के मधुमेह बणज्यां सें ।

[ravinderjeet]

Re bhai tere jisse 2-4 or aage to ho liya JL ka kalyan.

सारे ढाळ के माणस होणे चाहियेँ बिकासे ,ना ते सुवाद कोणी आवे ।

[ayushkadyan]

On a light note.. :) Now this thread's poll turning into Big Boss captain's selection..No one knows who is in favour or opposing..Ab to Big Boss hi bata sakte hai kaun hai apna kaun paraya...Ye hai BIG BOSS aath...sabki lagegi vaat..:) ;)

The bright part of this thread is that now we are introducing to the old guns...people are coming back to site...chalo kuch to achha hua iss bahane...We all know it's very difficult to remain unbiased in all situation..my wishes is with all the moderators who have done this task and all the aspirants who are looking forward for this tough job...

[cooljat]

I strongly recommend RK Uncle for the post of moderator.
He is the only person who can bring back good old JL days.

[ssgoyat]

Instead of recommending, it'll be good if some people could step forward on their own.

I propose one more suggestion let's have 3-4 moderators to distribute the workload, and they can choose their topic. Obviously we can't find one single person, who can be available all the time surfing JL exclusively. As most among us are into Private jobs.

Eg. A (who is busy) can take up "About Jatland, Education & Careers, Chapters and Itineraries, Special Interest". As these topics have less threads & posts.
B can take up General Talk
C can take Mauj Masti
Z can take up News & Views (which has the maximum posts, i suppose)


Dr. Rajpal can still continue with 'History'. We bhi rajji, ar haam bhi..

I can volunteer myself for X.

Anyone for Y & Z.

[DrRajpalSingh]

????? Are you out searching for the moderators? I believe owners of this site can do that better. You need not suggest me at least.

I agree that you know better, but what is harm in helping the owners in this community cause !

Thanks, I will abide by your advice !

[DrRajpalSingh]

Out of 21,384 members, how many members visit this site regularly and how many members post regularly?

Rather than directing me to find out the reason, could you please take some pain and let me know the reason of not approving my posts? If I know the reason, I can try to improve myself. In my opinion, all of my posts must be approved. Now its your responsibility as moderator to explain me why you did not approve my post.

Can you also explain, why I am on the moderation list while others not? and Who had put me on moderation list? You or someone else?

Friend,

I appreciate your participation and enthusiasm shown in the discussion on this thread. You always keep on asking irrelevant questions such as contained in the first line of the instant post. When they are not attended to you become angry. The anger is not good for health.

I believe that basically every person must get a fair chance to understand the basics of an institution [in the instant case Site] and improve upon his errors/mistakes. This has happened in a number of cases to fair good.

Gentleman, kindly remember, I do not wash the dirty linen in public view by writing filthy words for my own community men, fellow members whether seniors or juniors. Some people fail to understand the meaning of pacific and persuasiveness style and consider it as my weakness and start smelling a rat everywhere ! Nonetheless, I pray for their betterment in life and have no grudge against any of them.

Being polite but firm in one's convictions has to be proved by one's actions. Anybody can raise a finger against any person but when offered to take up that duty which needs extra effort and time, one starts this or that pretext to avoid it. This is general phenomenon all over and we the Jats are not exception to it.

None has authorized me to find out a substitute but I wanted to explore the possibility of providing one, if someone among us was willing.

You had expressed willingness to be nominated for the post of editor but it was opposed by some friend by citing the reason thereof; perhaps you might have read that. Try to improve and remove bias in your style of writing, if possible !

A piece of friendly advice, if you care so much about the Site and your posts :

Kindly have patience and try to follow the rules/norms of healthy discussion and Lo ! and see you are out of moderation pool.

Use polite language and firm facts in future, if you want to rise in your field of writing.

If you find anything unacceptable in the above words/sentences kindly excuse me.

Hoping for a constructive continued contribution to the site !

Thanks

PS : No further questions on this issue, please, as I have my own private life also.

[agodara]

owner is boss.he deside who wil be editor.this is privavate site owned by mr.sataywher if am not
wrong is owner of this site.he can decide who can be editor.D.N deswal ji busy in wikifing jat history in
digital format.same can be said about l.burdak ji and samar kadyan ji.RK sir can be a good candidate
but does he enough time for modrater.if he has time i will happily write to adminstraters
for now dr.rajpal ji doing good job.there will be many mods/editor will come and go but motto will
remain one united jats

[SALURAM]

बिलकुल नहीं ,
खासकर समर कडियाँन के व्यव्हार से.
समर का व्यव्हार कभी भी एक दोस्ताना एडिटर जैसा ना होकर एक तानाशाह के जैसा रहा. मैं कई साल तक जाटलैंड का नियमित यूजर रहा हूँ. लेकिन पिछले साल कई मौकों पर समर कड़ियाँन के द्वारा कुछ ज्यादा ही सेक्युलर यानि की अपनी मुस्लिम सोच को हमारे ऊपर थोपने की कोशिश की जिसके कारण मैं ही नहीं बहुत सारे मित्र गण जाटलैंड से दुरी बनाते गए.
जरूरत हैं एक ऐसे एडिटर कि जो सभी यूजर के साथ सामान रूप से पेश आये. ऐसी ही एक एडिटर हुआ करती थी ndark10 (कामनाजी) ..

[singhvp]

went through the thread and unable to resist my self, i am sorry for my views if these are going to hurt someone.
शिक्षित होने का मतलब कभी भी येनहीं होता की वो समझदार है और समझदार का मतलब कहीं भी ये नहीं है की वो अच्छा आदमीही होगा.
आदमीकितना भी होशियार, चालाक और म्रद्युभासी हो ऊसके चरित्र का आभास ऊसके कार्येकलापोंद्वारा लोगों को पता लग ही जाता है. ये जरूरी नहीं की जो लोग चुप रहतें हैं वोकुच्छ समझते नहीं.


चुपचाप आदमी की समझदारी का क्यूकर बेरा पाटैगा ? माणस कुछ बोलैगा जिब्बे तो बेरा पाटैगा i मसलन आपकी समझदारी का पता आपकी इस पोस्ट से ही तो चलता है,वरना फोटो से तो कुछ भी पता नहीं चल रहा I कितनी स्याणी स्याणी बात कह दी आपनै थोड़े से शब्दां मैं I

[VirJ]

ये तागा हालाँकि सभी मोडों के लिए होना चाहिए था पर लगता के सिर्फ़ डाक्टर साहिब के लिए बनके रह गया हे. मेरी पोस्ट्स जिन खातिर मेने आवाज़ थाई थी वे एक ऐसे मोड ने delete करी थी जिसको मेने एक साल मे ऑनलाइन देखा भी नही. मेरी पोस्ट मे ऐसा कुछ भी नही था जो आपतिजनक हो. मेरा कसूर इतना था मे उसके एक दोस्त से सवाल जवाब मे उलाज़ बैठा था. फेर उसने वा थ्रेड लॉक कर दी.

डॉक्टर साहिब ने भी मेरी पोस्ट धोड़ी हे पर कम त कम मे इतना कह सकूँ हूँ के वे निस्पक्श स. राजपाल जी त पहली उन मोड़ ती हटाना चाहिए जो कुछ करते नही हे फेर भी पद पे बैठे हें. उनकी जगह मे भाई रविंदर, वी पी सिंग, अनिल सांगवान, समर सिंग आदि के नाम का परताव करता हूँ . डॉक्टर साहिब की एक खूबी तो हे के वे अपना काम पूरी लग्न से करते हे तो उनको इतिहास और विकी का मोड़ बना दिया जाए.

[ravinderjeet]

हम इतना सब लिख रहे हैं ,तो कुछ ऐसा भी लिखा जाए की जाटलैंड में सुधार हो जाए ,आखिर लड़ाई का और इस ताग्गे का मुद्दा ही सुधार हे ।
में यहां कुछ सुझाव देना चाहूँगा -----
मॉडरेटर के लिए --------
१) जाटलैंड का बोझ किसी एक के कंधे पर ना डाला जाए,जिसके कारण वो काम के बोझ तले दब जाता हे और अनाप-सनाप निर्णय लेने लग जाता हे । कई मोड़ हिटलर भी बन जाते हैं ।
२) सारी लड़ाइयाँ फोरम में होती हैं और ट्रेफिक भी उसी में अधिक हे इस लिए उसके काम को बाँट दिया जाए ।
३) पुराने सभी मोड़ को हटा दिया जाए । विकी मॉडरेटर छोड़ कर ।
४) जो मॉडरेटर हफ्ते में एक बार अपने सेक्सन की सार संभाल नहीं करता और हफ्ते में एक बार विजिट नहीं करता उसको एक महीने तक देखने के बाद हटा दिया जाए या वो समय के अभाव बता कर स्वयं हट जाए ।
५) जो मॉडरेटर किसी तागे को लोक करता हे , तो कारण के साथ उसी तागे में बता कर लोक करे ।
६) जो मॉडरेटर किसी की पोस्ट में अवांछनीय भाषा को हटाना चाहता हे ,पहले वो उस पोस्टर को खुद हटाने के लिए कहे ,या कारण बता कर हटाये ,केवल अप्रोप्रिएट लेंग्वेज कहने की बजाय उन् शब्दों या वाक्य को बताये जिनके कारण वो पोस्ट हटाई गई हे । ताकि भविष्य में फिर से वो ही गलती और तू-तू में में ना हो ।
७) मॉडरेटर केवल अपने जिम्मेवारी के ही काम करे किसी दूसरे मॉडरेटर के काम में टांग ना अड़ाए ।


पोस्टर के लिए ---------
१) राजनैतिक विषयों पर बहस के दौरान किसी के भी विचार किसी भी दल के साथ हो सकते हैं , और वे समय के साथ बदल भी सकते हैं ,इस लिए उन् पर वयक्तिगत टिप्पणी ना करें । पुरे दल पर या उस दल की विचार धारा पर ही टिप्पणी करें ।
२) गाली गलौज चाहे हिंदी का हो या अंग्रेजी का प्रयोग ना करें । उसकी जगह अनेक उपमाएं / मुहावरे होती हैं ,गुस्सा निकालने के लिए उनका ही प्रयोग करें ।
३) धार्मिक विषयों पर हमें जाट संस्कृति ( हिन्दू /सिख )के नजरिये से देखना चाहिए , दूसरे धर्म की तरफदारी करने के ठोस कारण होने चाहिए ।
४) एक ही विषय पर चल रहे धागे पर अनेक धागे ना चलायें ।
५) ऎसे धागे जिन पर ना कोई लाइक करता हे और ना कोई पढता हे जारी ना रखें ,अपने आप बंद कर दें ।
६) विषय वे ही चुने जो जाट से सम्बंधित हों ,दुनिया भर का अड़ंगा इंटरनेट पर पड़ा रहने दे ।


--------- सद-भावनाओँ सहित ।

[ayushkadyan]

I strongly recommend RK Uncle for the post of moderator.
He is the only person who can bring back good old JL days.
I think it would be like to ask a active politician for state governor or president job. If it happens then he has to come out from his original ideology and has to wear a secular spectacles to show him unbiased in front of our so called progressive and cool secularists.
I think it'll be like giving the captaincy to Sachin Tendulkar but then the original RK could be missed out completely as we have seen Sachin's individual performance during his captaincy. I guess his natural views and thoughts will be under pressure of moderator job.

However, I'm completely agree on this thing that the kind of person he is as I perceived him, he will be the best fit to moderator job after Rajpal Sir.

[VirJ]

Yes it gets tricky when a mod has a particular kind of views which are known to members. The other party would always blame him of being biased. However, as suggested by a few dont delete any post just delete the abusive language. That way people will have less to complain.

If it goes off topic let the members decide what they want. In other words, a mod can take a bit passive role here. Unless members complain let them go off-topic. If they are not interested in thread topic then there is no point asking them to stay on the topic.

Strict rules may work on a big forum with lot of members but we have only 15-20 active members.

[ravinderjeet]

इब्ब इह रोले ने मिटाण खातर में कुछ सुझाव दयु सूं , विकी मॉडरेटर जो से वे न्यू के न्यू रहवें ,अर जाटलैंड के मॉडरेटर खातर न्यू कर्या जावे । पहलम बताऊ सु कोए नाटेगा नहीं , अर जिनके नाम नहीँ से वो रूस्सेगा नहीं । कई दिन होगे सब एक दूसरे के धाप्पा ला दवे से । इब्ब फेर आगे सत्येस्वर की मर्जी ।
१) एजुकेशन एंड कॅरियर ---------सौरभ जागलान ।
२) न्यूज़ एंड वूज ------------------ विपिन ज्याणी ।
३) जनरल टाक -------------------- अनिल सांगवान ।
४) हिस्ट्री ---------------------------- डॉ राजपाल सिंह झ ँगु ।
५) मौजमस्ती ---------------------- रविंदर जीत सिंह बल्हारा ।
६) स्पेसल इंट्रेस्ट ------------------- आशा बडियासर / राजपाल दुलार ।
७) चेपटर एंड इतनीरीज ---------- राजेंदर कुमार कालखण्डे ।
८) अबाउट जाटलैंड डाट कॉम ---- समर सिंह / प्रिक्षित छिल्लर ।




--------- सद भावनाओँ सहित ।

[DrRajpalSingh]

Self explanatory Note :


I initially joined as an ordinary member of the site and observed the functioning of the site for some months prior to starting to contribute to the site on its various forums/sub forums and since then have continued to enjoy the same.

This gives me much more sense of satisfaction than the task which I have to undertake as moderator with a mission of duty and responsibility to justify the faith reposed in me.

Therefore, Dear Friends, I have nothing to loose or gain in retaining or leaving the editorship.

Rather, I shall continue to enjoy and feel proud to be associated with the prestigious site even if I am allowed to remain an ordinary member of the site by the 'well wishers'.

[ravinderjeet]

आज एक पोस्ट डिलीट होगी , और किहे की थी , मेरे धोरे भेजी होड़ जो मैंने छाप्पी थी । कुण्से मॉडरेटर ने करी स न्यू भी कोणी बेरा । न्यू लिख राखी स अक " बड्डे बुड्ढा की इज़्ज़त करणा सीखो " पर उह मॉडरेटर ताहीं जो भी वो स समझ जावेगा ,न्यू बताणा चाहूँगा एक बड्डे बुड्डयाँ ने भी औराँ की इज़्ज़त करणी आणी चाहिए । इज़्ज़त कमाई जाया करे , मोल कोणी आंदी ।


------- सद-भावनाओँ सहित ।

[DrRajpalSingh]

ये तागा हालाँकि सभी मोडों के लिए होना चाहिए था पर लगता के सिर्फ़ डाक्टर साहिब के लिए बनके रह गया हे. मेरी पोस्ट्स जिन खातिर मेने आवाज़ थाई थी वे एक ऐसे मोड ने delete करी थी जिसको मेने एक साल मे ऑनलाइन देखा भी नही. मेरी पोस्ट मे ऐसा कुछ भी नही था जो आपतिजनक हो. मेरा कसूर इतना था मे उसके एक दोस्त से सवाल जवाब मे उलाज़ बैठा था. फेर उसने वा थ्रेड लॉक कर दी.

डॉक्टर साहिब ने भी मेरी पोस्ट धोड़ी हे पर कम त कम मे इतना कह सकूँ हूँ के वे निस्पक्श स. राजपाल जी त पहली उन मोड़ ती हटाना चाहिए जो कुछ करते नही हे फेर भी पद पे बैठे हें. उनकी जगह मे भाई रविंदर, वी पी सिंग, अनिल सांगवान, समर सिंग आदि के नाम का परताव करता हूँ . डॉक्टर साहिब की एक खूबी तो हे के वे अपना काम पूरी लग्न से करते हे तो उनको इतिहास और विकी का मोड़ बना दिया जाए.

Friend,


There is a team of four members of moderators of this forum at present. How does it function, is the question which is agitating the minds of a few friends. Let me say a few words on the issue.

I can assure all the members of the site that none of us has personal interest in resorting to unwarranted edit/delete his or her post or to rejoice in awarding 'infraction'. It is done only in case of violation of certain norms.

Infraction is awarded to make one aware that one is not on the right path in one's discussion/post and the infraction ends with passing of the limited time stipulated for the purpose. The cause of 'editing/deletion and infraction' with a piece of advice is forwarded to the concerned member through personal message after the action has met final approval from the 'system'.

Therefore, no chance for a moderator/editor to function against any member in an arbitrary manner. The decision making has several layers and they collectively implement the Site Policy, Rules and Regulations.

It is a welcome step that some of the friends have rightly started to contact senior members to re-activate their participation. who have tried to highlight some of shortcomings/errors of judgement during the course of editing/moderating action,.

All the short comings pointed out or criticism, perhaps, has made the participants wiser and created awareness among them about what they are expected to write and what not to write. In case of doubt members are free to go through three steaky threads on this very sub-forum above.

It is hoped this would minimise the number of complaints in the form of 'Reported Posts' and lead to smooth running of the discussions on the respective sub-forums of the site without intervention of the moderators in the matter.

I may be permitted to add here that due to stalemate generated by us, even today some of the 'reported posts' are waiting attention of the editors.

If such reported posts section remains unattended for unlimited time, a new issue would be raised by the reporters and if intervention is initiated, those whose posts/threads are involved would start to send private messages and would also start contacting on phone to the 'well wisher of the site'.
Present is the period of dilemma for the editors as was faced by one of the protagonist in a famous dramma by Shakespeare: 'to do or not to do, that is the question' !

Could anyone suggest a solution to the situation.

Thanks and regards,

[Sure]

चुपचाप आदमी की समझदारी का क्यूकर बेरा पाटैगा ? माणस कुछ बोलैगा जिब्बे तो बेरा पाटैगा i मसलन आपकी समझदारी का पता आपकी इस पोस्ट से ही तो चलता है,वरना फोटो से तो कुछ भी पता नहीं चल रहा I कितनी स्याणी स्याणी बात कह दी आपनै थोड़े से शब्दां मैं I

Good day Bhai sahab, I think sometimes something left unsaid at most tempting moment also fits in the art of conversation. It is not only to say right thing at right time. My Regards to you.

[VirJ]

Friend,


There is a team of four members of moderators of this forum at present.

If it is a Team of four members, how come you are the only one talking? Where are the other members? Or are you the appointed spokesperson for the team?

Thanks & Regards,

[VirJ]

Friend,


Present is the period of dilemma for the editors as was faced by one of the protagonist in a famous dramma by Shakespeare: 'to do or not to do, that is the question' !

Could anyone suggest a solution to the situation.

Thanks and regards,

Shakespeare's heroes were always confused. If a Mod doesn't know the answer to this question they should resign and move on.

We dont need Hemlet, we need Krishan.

[DrRajpalSingh]

If it is a Team of four members, how come you are the only one talking? Where are the other members? Or are you the appointed spokesperson for the team?

Thanks & Regards,

The thread has been started to discuss me and my functioning as the posts of participants reveal.

[Prikshit]

The thread has been started to discuss me and my functioning as the posts of participants reveal.
It was started with good intent, and for all the moderators. We have noticed a positive out come of it. What's the harm if everybody comes clear of thier part, be it a moderator or a member.

[VirJ]

The thread has been started to discuss me and my functioning as the posts of participants reveal.

My post mentioned some other Mod as well though I didn't disclose the name as my intent is not to criticise the person but to debate the issue. You are talking on behalf of others claiming they don't play politics or take sides. I very well know why my posts were deleted and regarding reason it was very generic "Off Topic". Thread was locked after that and when I questioned it you Deleted my post and gave me infraction. You were probably doing your job but he was playing games.

[DrRajpalSingh]

It was started with good intent, and for all the moderators. We have noticed a positive out come of it. What's the harm if everybody comes clear of thier part, be it a moderator or a member.

My young Friend,

I do not doubt your 'intention' in any way. Rather I am thankful to you as you have provided an opportunity to all the Jatland members and thousands of visitors to Site to know something about me and my style of functioning.

To understand it, kindly read the title of the thread once again. Is it not aimed at discussion about moderator and not moderators !

Nonetheless, I have enjoyed every bit of discussion and thank all the participants in the discussion for having spared time to appraise me and my style of work.

Kindly keep it up.


Thanks and best wishes


PS : Since I have already presented my point of view on the issues raised, it would serve no useful purpose if I continue to interfere with the smooth flow of discussion by the members.

Hence, time to say adieu to this thread discussion.

[ayushkadyan]

I think this thread's discussion should not be turn into "Moderator Hatao Abhiyaan" . Forum members are from different background, carrying different attitude and ideology so it's quite natural to have differences of opinions. Only one thing is common here and that is all are JAT.
I think few things can be improved by putting some efforts. At moderator's end, transparency in taking disciplinary action should be there as few members have already suggested that what they expect when a particular action has to be taken while members have to make sure not to cross their limit by being personal or offensive specially on a public forum such as JL.
Also I would like to say moderator has been given the privilege to run/monitor this site as per the rule and regulation set by the site administrator. There is no harm in giving the reason to a member for infraction, imposing ban or post deletion. Ultimately It would be considered as a democratic way of work. However, moderator can come up with this justification that why they should give the reasons for every disciplinary step taken when forum guidelines are there. It could be a never ending story.
At the end of the day we all (I hope moderators as well:)) want more active and constructive participation of our forum members on our community related issues on this forum. It can be achieved through creating a more liberal and constructive environment here.
Now moderators are going through "credibility crisis". When we know that they are dealing with the persons who are known for their attitude so the chance of being misunderstood is always there.. It's their call, how to bring the members confidence back on their working style and to this forum which can give the reason to members to come here again and again...

[singhvp]

anil bhai...bilkul sahi aadmi hai moderatorship ke liye.......par shayad anil bhai moderatorship ke liye time na nikaal paaye...kyoun anil bhai?

VP ji aur RK ji bhi theek rahenge iss kaam ke liye


प्रशांत भाई, धन्यवाद आपने मेरे जिसे अनाड़ी माणस को इतनी बड्डी चौधर के लायक समझा i वैसे तो मैं भी बिना पैसे की चौधर मैं भोत खुश होया करूँ, लेकिन आजकल बखत की बहुत भारी कमी सै I फेर देख ल्यांगे I फिलहाल तो बिना जिम्मेवारी के मज़े लेण मैं सुवाद सा आ रह्या सै I विपिन का भी धन्यवाद I

कलखंडे साहब फिट आदमी हैं
राजपाल जी की भी घणी ए बोट होगी, मेरे ख्याल में अब महाभियोग (impeachment) withdraw होणा चाहिए
रविंदर जीत भी घणा ख़राब माणस नहीं सै, इसकै भी ला दयो छीका सा
राजपाल दुलार साहब तैं बूझण मैं भी कोए हर्ज़ नहीं
बाकी भी जितने नाम भाइयां नै सुझाये सैं वे सारे सज्जन पुरुष लाग्गैं सैं

[vk23]

इब्ब इह रोले ने मिटाण खातर में कुछ सुझाव दयु सूं , विकी मॉडरेटर जो से वे न्यू के न्यू रहवें ,अर जाटलैंड के मॉडरेटर खातर न्यू कर्या जावे । पहलम बताऊ सु कोए नाटेगा नहीं , अर जिनके नाम नहीँ से वो रूस्सेगा नहीं । कई दिन होगे सब एक दूसरे के धाप्पा ला दवे से । इब्ब फेर आगे सत्येस्वर की मर्जी ।
१) एजुकेशन एंड कॅरियर ---------सौरभ जागलान ।
२) न्यूज़ एंड वूज ------------------ विपिन ज्याणी ।
३) जनरल टाक -------------------- अनिल सांगवान ।
४) हिस्ट्री ---------------------------- डॉ राजपाल सिंह झ ँगु ।
५) मौजमस्ती ---------------------- रविंदर जीत सिंह बल्हारा ।
६) स्पेसल इंट्रेस्ट ------------------- आशा बडियासर / राजपाल दुलार ।
७) चेपटर एंड इतनीरीज ---------- राजेंदर कुमार कालखण्डे ।
८) अबाउट जाटलैंड डाट कॉम ---- समर सिंह / प्रिक्षित छिल्लर ।




--------- सद भावनाओँ सहित ।
My friend, when these people are taking over Mr Rajpal's work? Any idea or news? Despite name being proposed, I see no action at all. Still one moderator is most active.

[vk23]

I am on moderation list since July. Wonder when will this ban be over? A member should not be punished like this.

[ayushkadyan]

ओल्ले भाई यू तो चाला होग्या स..

[VikrantChodhary]

Gutbandi toh khatam kar di eib aale moderators ne. Very nice work.

[ssgoyat]

Rajpal Jhangu is most biased person on this site. Jab tak yu moderator rahwega is site kaa nyu e battha baithega.

Baith liya....., kasar kit reh rahi aur..:livid:

Koshish to ya thi, ak bach jya..kihe dhaal..

par 'ya to nyu e challegi'

[login4vinay]

Ravinderjeet uncle ji ka haal to uss balak jaisa ho gaya jiske piche master haath dho k pada ho.. kuch sahi bhi karo to master ji ku galat hi lage h..:tongue:

[Prikshit]

Ban nhi remove ki power de do. 24 voters, plus unke post pe like karne walo ko bhi chalte kardo. My way ya highway aa lia hai. Politics har jagah thik nhi.

[satyeshwar]

Hello everyone,
I have been a moderator for the past 13 years just a few months after its inception and I don't think that there has been an instance in the entire history of the site when the members have ever been happy with the moderators. When we put some law and order into effect, members called us too strict and strangling the life out of this site, and when we took a more hands off approach, then members accused us of letting this site become a jungle! I have personally been accused so many times that I have lost count. What I have learnt over many years of moderation is that there is never any pleasing the members. It has become a fashion to blame moderators for everything wrong, even when all they are doing is removing content which most people would found objectionable in a civilized place. Also the same people fighting with other members and moderators are messaging me to ask for this job under the pretext of "I can do it better". Talk about double standards!
I know that recent political climate in India has very explicitly played a role in the recent commotion and we have allowed members every freedom possible to express their thoughts, but there is a limit! Here is a suggestion: If you don't like another members political views, then imagine if they were standing right next to your mother and then express your thoughts to them. Would you act like hooligans hurling the choicest abuses or perhaps restrain yourself in front of your own mother? This site also has many mothers, sisters and daughters visiting it every day, so think about what you are saying.
We must find the respect within our hearts to treat other members cordially and definitely for the moderators who are doing a thankless, voluntary job. Those who do not wish to live by these simple and easily acceptable terms may wish to draw curtains on their lifespan at this site. I can't understand how such people can be acceptable in any society.
Finally, we put a lot of thought in choosing a moderator. We expect them to be unbiased and I have faith in every single one of them to carry out this responsibility. While we all stand behind each other, if people have complaints, please point your finger towards me. Please PM me or send your grievances through the "Contact us" link at the bottom of every page. I am sure that we can reach an amicable solution to every problem just as long as you are willing to listen without an ego. This thread is being closed as it has been hijacked by some members to carry out their agenda.
-Bagh