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September 13th, 2015, 06:32 AM
There seems to be untold amount of money with religious ideologies, while there is no money for defense, police personnel and other services.


September 16th, 2015, 10:10 AM
The most common Totems in India context are:

star, sun, moon, animal and bird figures, plants and flowers, etc.

All these symbols depicted the origin of these people.

Who would value Sun? People associated with agriculture.
Who would value moon and stars? People coming from drier regions of the earth and involved with animal husbandry. Why moon and star because these people would use stars and moon to navigate their livestock during the cool night.
Example of Animal or bird could be peacock: Peacock is native to India and south east Asia, so the people depicting Peacock could very well have origin in some native people of the land.
Plants and flowers: There is always some kind of plant depiction like grains, creepers or climber or a tree. Often such depiction was to inform about life, continuity, etc.

September 20th, 2015, 09:28 AM
It is interesting to see, how tribes with different origins maintained their identities.

These identities seem to be coming from much older Indo European language roots. The suffix worked as negation rule.

Simple examples are:

Rore and Arora : these two words seems to be very similar with the only difference being that of negation by using "A" or "AA"as suffix. This might related to tribes coming from different origins.
Brahmanical and Abrahmanical: These words show the same similarities, with "A" or "AA" in prefix being used to depict negation.

Such prefixes/suffixes can be easily seen in north western Indian languages, which might connected to Proto Indo European or Indo European Languages.

September 20th, 2015, 01:09 PM
There are people from Punjab knpwn as 'Arora'. It is believed that they originally belonged to 'Alor' the capital of the separate state of Sindh before partition.

September 20th, 2015, 09:28 PM
There are people from Punjab knpwn as 'Arora'. It is believed that they originally belonged to 'Alor' the capital of the separate state of Sindh before partition.

"Believed" but "science of languages" is not based on "Belief".

December 5th, 2015, 06:09 AM
One connects facial features as shown in ancient/ art and to present or ancient relevance.

A simple example is that in ancient art and scriptures the eyes of human figures was shown as big and protruding outward. This kind of depiction of eyes in scriptures was used because in ancient times and in some cultures depiction of eyes in this form was seen as beautiful. Such eyes had no practical relevance to real people in real life, living in those areas or outside those areas.

December 5th, 2015, 08:57 AM
India is running lot of religious cults. The cult of languages itself it very big without any substantial archaeological or scientific proof. While the archaeological and scientific proofs which go back to several thousands of years, exist in several parts of the world, Indian proofs merely exist for few thousand years without substantial scientific or archaeological backing. Religious thought process also takes the people away from reality. While antiquity of languages like Sanskrit has not been proved beyond few hundred years. Antiquity of Semitic languages like Arabic and Judaic have been proved for several thousand years. Rather the science of languages has proven that non Semitic languages came of out Semetic languages.

Cults and religious misconceptions created around Sanskrit and the people who have their monetary issue in this language is so immense that it is taking the nation into dark ages and away from science. It is also making other languages of the country loose their worth.

December 5th, 2015, 10:09 AM
The difference between the original owners of the animals and the people who started grazing the animals of owners could the difference in the language of the people in India context this difference could be seen inform of "Heer and Aheer", where in ancient times one group used to graze the animals and one group were the owners of the animals. This difference could also be the difference which clearly classified the two based on early migration and later work done by local resident.

December 5th, 2015, 10:10 AM
Lot of the present day information is adulterated in India by religion and religious cults. While history of people, tribes, etc. is older than the languages itself, words coined by religion based languages have no archaeological proof or evidences. Words like "swami of the cow", has no archaeological evidence but is rather connected with religion and a language like Sanskrit which forms the support of religion. Religion in Indian context for most of the people has economic and political reasons. So, a word like "swami of the cow" which connects with a language which supports religion does not prove that these people were the original owners of the cattle secondly this word is also from religious language which on historical scale of language development is newer than discovery of metal and the use of metal in human history and semetic languages.

Religion in human history has always been manipulated and there is a strong combination of religion and the ruling class or (the king) in present and past history in Indian context.