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    The Tomars of Delhi

    A history of the Jat Tomars (1)

    Ravi Chaudhary

    - source Jat Ithihaas,( Jat History) Mahendra Kumar Shastri, Parmesh Sharma Shastri, Rajpal Singh Shastri, 1991, Madhur Prakashan, Bazar Sitaram, New Delhi 110006)


    According to the Mahabharat, Parikshit took the throne of Indraprasta after Yudhistra. His dynasty ruled for 1864 years or 28 generations, the last king Khemkaran was defeated by Vishrawah, who took the throne. His dynasty ruled for 14 generations. It lasted 500 years. The third dynasty ruled for 15 generations. Then Raja Dughsen came to power and his, fourth dynasty came to power, and after nine generations, the last king was Rajpal. This is supported by the Rajatarungani, and by other inscriptions.

    This fourth dynasty was uprooted by Raja Vikramaditya Tanwar. (Tomar). He destroyed Indraprasta,( modern Delhi) and shifted the seat of power to Avanti in Ujjain. According to Todd, Vikramaditya, not only destroyed Indraprasta, but also started a new era which is the Vikramaditya era which starts in 57 BCE.

    After the destruction of Indraprasta, it became less than a village, with no great prominence on the next 800 years.

    In about 800 CE, Anangpal Tomar, following in the footsteps of his ancestor Vikramaditya, reestablished Indraprasta as the seat of his power.

    The Tomars renamed Indraprasta as Dhilli or Dilli. Delhi was the center of power for the Tomar dynasty, and stayed that way even after them. In the Delhi area this capital shifted to a number of places, it name may have changed, but the centre of power remained in Dilli.

    There is a saying “Dilli was uprooted many times, and it reestablished many times.




    The centers of power in the vicinity of Delhi were:

    1. Anangpur
    2. Surajkund
    3. Yoginipur
    4. Mahipalpur
    5. Mehrauli
    6. Lalkot
    7. Dillikah
    8. Killohkheri
    9. Siri
    10. Tuglakabad
    11. Jahanbad
    12. Firozabad
    13. Khizrabad
    14. Mubarakbad
    15. Deenpanah
    16. Shergarh
    17. Salimgarh
    18. Shahjahanabad
    19. Lalkila
    20. New Delhi

    Delhi was given its look by the Tomars, who made it an object of pride by their efforts. Lakes, Temples were inaugurated, and they increased the splendour of Dilli. The ruins of many of these Lakes, Temples, and buildings can still be seen, and give evidence to reality of that age, and legend of the Tomars.

    Anangpal Tomar, the First, built in Anangpur, a 289 foot long great Bundh ( a Dam).On two sides were rocky hills, and between them a small river. The river was dammed, with a pucca, sturdy dam, and that is testimony to the engineering skills of the Tomars.

    Raja Anangpal Tomar built a fort on the hill on top of the Dam, and signs of that fort can be seen today.

    In 1051 CE Anangpal Tomar II became the ruler and established his capital at Lalkot (Red Fort). He removed the iron victory pillar, erected by his ancestor Vikramaditya Tanwar, from the Vishnudutt Hill, and re erected it bin the centre of his capital Lalkot. The pillar is now outside the Kutb Minar in Delhi, and is testimony to the metallurgical skills of the Tomar era.




    In Delhi Shakarpur is the ancient Shakarprasta. This city was as famous as the other cities of the Mahabharat- Tilpat (Telprasta), Soonpath (Svarnprasta), Indrapath (Indraprastha).The Tomars built temples, and lakes in these places. The Bhairon Mandir (temple) of Shakarpur is clear evidence of the ancient Mandirs of the Tomars.

    The Tomars built the temple of Kaushiki Devi at Okla. She was born here, and she destroyed the rakshasas (demons)

    Anangpal Tomar II first made his capital at Dhillkapuri, which is between Yoginipur and Mahipalpur. An account of the beauty of the city of Dhillika is found in the Palam Vavli inscription, and in the inscription on the Iron Pillar. The poet Shridhar in 1132 CE makes reference to the city of Dhillika in his book Parshvanath Charita, (Account of Parshvanath). In those times Dhillika was part of Greater Haryana. Anangpal Tomar constructed the lake of Anangpal (Anangpal sarovar), and decorated Dhillika with palaces and temples.

    One great fort was Lalkot (Red Fort). The place of the Raja surrounded the Iron Pillar. Today that city, those temples are no more, all destroyed, yet this Killi ( iron nail/pillar) is testimony to the glory of the Tomars, the descendants of Vikramaditya Tanwar, many centuries after him.

    The Raja had this pillar uprooted and reinserted into the ground, and there is an interesting legend of that, for the pillar could not be erected again with the same strong foundation as before.

    A saying developed:

    “ Killi Jo Dilli Bhaii,
    Tomar Nrp Bhayya Mathiheen”


    “ The pillar which was taken to Delhi
    The Tomar king had lost his senses”

    The Bhat (bard) of Prithbviraj Chauhan Jagnik repeats this account. This is the place that later came to be known as Dilli (Hindi) or Delhi (English).

    The Iron Pillar or Killi (nail) is 22 feet high and 41/2 feet in circumference. When one sees this pillar one understands what expert metallurgists the craftsmen who made it were. The pillar of beaten iron, indicative of it’s of its decorative forehead, looks auspicious and great. For centuries this pillar had borne the assault of the winds and rain, yet even now not a trace of rust can be found. There are many more such examples, which are hidden in the ruins of Delhi, which bear testimony to the glory of the Tomars.


    The first name of Dilli or Delhi was Dhillkapuri.

    Deshostith Hariyanakya Prthviyama Svargasanninam”
    Dillikavya Tatra Tomarreh-rasisth Nirmitha”

    Anangpal Tomar I was the son of Kunwarpal Tomar. Kunwarpal’s father was Jaipal Tomar., whose elder brother Shalakshpal Tomar put him on the throne. At the time of the invasions of Mahmud of Ghazni it was this Raja Shalakshpal who was ruling Mehrauli- Lalkot or Dhillika, and in 1005 CE he handed over the throne to his younger brother Jaipal. Shalakshpal retired towards Samchana (Gurud) in Haryana and took Sanyaas (spiritual retirement). It is this great personage of whom an account is to be rendered. It is he who was the founder of the Desh Khap of 84 villages.

    Historians have betrayed the Tomars by restricting their accounts of the Tomars only to the last Raja Anangpal Tomar, whereas there are 26 generations between Anangpal Tomar the 1st and Anangpal Tomar the 2nd.

    The dynastical list of the Tomars who sat on the throne of Delhi is as below:
    Tomar Ascended the Throne CE
    1 Anangpal 736
    2 Vasudev 754
    3 Gang 773
    4 Prithvimal 764
    5 Jaidev 814
    6 Virpal 839
    7 Adhereh 849
    8 Vijay 875
    9 Anek 876
    10 Rikshpal 919
    11 Sukhpal 940
    12 Gopal 961
    13 Salakshpal 976
    14 Jaipal 1005
    15 Kunwarpal 1021
    16 Anangpal 2nd 1051
    17 Vijaypal 1081
    18 Mahipal* 1105 Founded th city of Mahipalpur
    and built a Shiv Temple.

    19 Arkpal ( Anangpal3rd) 1130
    20 Vahardpal Dev’s
    Son ascended 1190
    21 Tejpal 1162 ( ruled for 15 days. He was defeated
    and killed by Kutubudin Aibak.)



    Arkpal Tomar, also known as Anangpal the thirds was the last ruler of this dynasty. He ascended the throne in 1130 CE. He had no sons. He had two daughters. The elder Balm was married to Raja Vijaychand of Kannauj, who had a son borne to him -Raja Jaichand Rathor.

    The other daughter Kamla was married to the son of Raja Someshwar of Ajmer, who was borne a son Prithviraj Chauhan. It was this Prithviraj Chauhan who was seated on the throne of Delhi after Anangpal Tomar the third or Arkpal Tomar.

    Historians err in considering the Delhi Tomars to be Rajputs. Nowhere in the Rajput groups do we find the sons of the daughters taking over the inheritance.

    Our concern here is now with Salakshpal Tomar who loved seven generations before Anangpal Tomar the third, and abdicating his throne, in favor of his younger brother.

    The descendants of Salakshpal Tomar even toady, are to be found living in Desh republic, near modern Baraut, proud of their royal lineage and that they are Jats. This Khap is also known as Salakyan Tomars. His other brother Salakshpal gave his name to 84 villages of Kalashlayan Gujars, and those Jats have joined the Gujar stream.

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    Salakshpal Tomar ascended the throne of Indraprasta I 979 CE. He ruled for 25 years, 10 months, and 10 days before abdicating the throne in favour of his younger brother Jaipal in 1005 CE.

    He retired to Samcharan( modern Rohtak), and then after some time crossed the river Yamuna, and came to the banks of the River Krishna near Meerut, and this became part of the territory of the Tomars.

    The Meerut Gazetteer tells us of the tradition that” The district of Meerut formed part of the dominions of Mahipal, King of Indraprasta.

    Raja Salakshpal Tomar, when he arrived in this area had with him 500 warriors of whom 205 were Jats, and the rest were from other communities. At this time the country was fearful of the invasions of Mahmud of Ghazni. The Meos lived between the Krishna – Yamuna Doab( land between), and they were now leaning towards Islam.

    Raja Salakshpal Tomar later came to be known as Salakpal Tomar in this area. They were the same person. Upto now the forms of societies had been, Ganrajya (republican or Samrajya (monarchy) or they could be called Ekrat, Dvirat, Aratt, and Samrat, but Salakshpal started the society of Chaudratt.

    In this area he started six chaudhratts of 14 villages each, and this totaled to 84, and was known as the Chaudratt of the Chaurasi (or 84)..First the Chaudhary on one village was selected, and then the Chaudhary of 14 villages and finally each community (biradari) selected their Chaudhary at the 84 village level.

    The Chaudhary was, he who took on the duty of serving his people, and was constant ready to do so. This was done under the supervision of the Jat Chaudhries.

    The janpad (republic) would invite learned persons and rajas to participate. The janpad in time was called Salaklayan Janpad. This republic was also known as the Salakalyan or Sarvkalyan Khap (the republic that benefits all). This republic was also known as “Desh” or country, and the saying took hold, that if indeed there is a country it is the Salaklayan Khap.

    The Khap became known as the Desh Khap.

    Salakpal's younger brother started the Kalashlayan Chaudhrat, which joined the Gujar stream. Another brother Bharomull started another Chaudhrat. (Note the author uses the term Chaudrath and Chaudhrat interchangeably. This is more common than expected in the Hindi language and has other implications in the study of History)

    The older existing Pals and Khaps soon took to using this nomenclature of “Chaudhrat”.

    These kinds of republics had existed much earlier, where the members of a clan would live together, and would govern themselves adopted republican methods.

    They however had and maintained their relationships with the Emperor. (Samrat), in this rapid development, each clan developed its own Khap (republic), but we also find other clans present, though one clan would be a majority. Other communities existed, but the ownership of the land was in the hands of the Jats.

    The hostile invaders through the centuries tried their best to destroy our special civilization, and culture, but the Chaudrahat society established by Salakshpal, and governorship over the land, Bhaichara, (cooperative) method of land cultivation, is till in the nature and speech of the people there today. They never accepted being dominated over by anyone, yet would willingly sacrifice all if approached with gentleness.

    The culture of the Chaudhary was held in greet esteem. His orders were obeyed by all. His word was like that of a king. The bigger conflicts were dealt with through the Panchayat or council of five.

    This republic had so much strength that foreign powers bowed before them.

    THE FIRST CHAUDHRAT IN THE 84 VILLAGES OF THE DESH KHAP OF THE TOMARS.


    1. BARAUT : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Rao Rampal Tomar

    2 BAWLI : : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Rao Mahipal Tomar

    3. KISHANPUR BARAAL : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Rao KrishnaPal Tomar

    4. BIJRAUL : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Rao Chandrapal Tomar

    5. BAAMDHAULI : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Rao Haripal Tomar

    6. BALVAHNDI (Hilwandi) : The first Chaudhary of 14 villages was
    Shahohpal Tomar

    !4 villages of Shahpur Badhauli, for some reason, were established in the Koil (Aligarh) area, and here too there are 14 villages of Salakpal Tomars. There they are known as Salakyan (Kadhir). Later Shahpur Badhauli was inhabited by the people from the Meher Patti and the Baraut Chaudhran. As the custom of the 14 villages spread, this was followed by the establishment of the Chaudhrat of seven (7) villages, but Mahipal, the eldest son of Salakshpal established the Chaudhrat of 16 villages instead of 7.

    In this manner a republic of 84 villages was established. The centre was established at Baraut... The first Chaudhary of this republic was the youngest son of Salakpal Rao Deshpal. This Chaudhrat became the best known. In this Janpad there were Chaudhries from all biradharis (communities). There names should be given (by the author) but could not due to shortage of space. At the same time, Rai Sukhpal Tomar established his centre at Bakhenah (now Bijnor), and established the Desh Chaudhrat at Kelanpur, Husainpur, Hirnakhera, Mustafabad, Sheikpuri, Malriya, Salmabad, Bharera, and at Shadipur in Moradabad.





    In the District of Muzzafarnagar, the villages of Haidernagar, Gadhiajru, Veenpur, and Shahpur also come in this Chaudhrat. In Mathura district we find the villages of Nangla Thadal, Udaipur, and Nangla Bhaiy were also established by the Salakyan, and come into the ‘Desh’ Chaudrat. In Muzzafarnagar the Rajputs of Veeral have come out of the Desh Jats and have joined the Rajput community. They are therefore known as Salakyan rajputs.

    In Haryana the village of Samchana is older than the ‘Desh’.


    In the same manner one great warrior, who established the village of Gopalpur Khadana, went to Bundelkhand where he displayed great prowess. He settled there and started the Salakyan Chaudhrat. He later married a Rajput lady, and when the Rajput Jagir of Shavpur was established, he became the Jagirdar, and joined the Rajput community. There was a lot of interaction and going and coming between Bundelkhand and Bawli, and Khandana, and Kishenpur Baraal. As the current era approached this decreased and ended. Even today one finds the Salakalyan Rajputs in Bundelkhand.


    Salakshpal’s daughter also honored her ancestors. There is a well near Garhmukteshwar (on the Ganga River, on the Delhi- Nainital road, some 100 km from Delhi. The well is known as ‘Nung’. The legend is- this well was inaugurated by Yudhistra (of the Mahabharat fame). The Tomars conquered seven villages near Garh Mukteshwar, and devoted their revenue to the upkeep of this well. The practice carried on until British times.

    The people of the ‘Desh” have generally forgotten that the famous well of Garhmukteshwar was inaugurated by their ancestors. It is a result of this that they have lost their power and falling behind in modern revolutions, yet even today if they make the effort, the Desh Khap will be second to none.

    The youngest son of Salakshpal was Rao Deshpal, who lived in Baraut. The eldest son Rao Mahipal, who had his centre of activity of Bawli, and the mid son was Rao Krishnpal who centre was Biraal, and that place was renamed Krishn Biraal, and later Kishanpur Biraal.

    Raja Salakshpal die in Baraut. Upon his death, his youngest son Deshpal was recognized in his place, and form that time, Baraut gained in respect. In the Salakshpal era, much work took place in Kishanpur Biraal- Buildings were built, tanks/lakes were constructed, and the scale of activity far exceeded the activity in another part of the ‘Desh ’. However after Salakshpal’s death, the paramount of Baraut in relation Kishanpur Biraal kept increasing.

    Salakshpal and his successors gave a great deal of emphasis on education of the population, and opened many schools.

    Salakyan is a branch of the Tomars. Tomars and Tanwar are the same. The other offshoots of the Tomars are, Tenua, Antal, Antale, Gurdiya, Bhind Tanwar, Kuntal, Chapothcut, Chabuk, Chawla, Chopra, Chokar, Salakyan Tomar, Miteh Tomar, Salakyan Kadhir.



    [ note I will question some of these goths as originating fom the Tomars- e.g Antal, Kuntal, Chabuk. Chokar etc -Ravi}.

    Source: Jat Balwan, Jat History (1991) Mahendra Kumar Shastri, Madhur Prakashan, 2804 Arya Samaj Mandir, Bazar Sitaram, Delhi 11006

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    Ravi bhai.........i appreciated your work very much........thanks for all this important information......

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    As we go through the information about Rajput gotras,there is no mention on wikipedia about tomars as one of their gotra,Howere if we take taur synonimus with tomars they are said to be present around delhi in wikipedia.looking at the Tomars around delhi they are all jats so numerous that they call it Desh. So far we hardly find any village of tomar rajputs.

    Now and also in the past there is and was an attempt to link these Tomars with rajputs witout any basis without any proof just to snatch their glorious history from them.Jats have hardly bothered about them in past as it did not effect them if some body else consider their forefather as theirs but since such a myth if propogated and not countered may be taken as a truth.

    Such attepts as reported in Jat history site must be refuted and be condemened by protest via demonstrations(TO CREATE PUBLIC AWARENESS) by jat tomar desh khap and others so that this wrong notion and attempt to appropriate their glorious past may be refuted.

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    attention ravi

    the desh khap of 84 villages is now distributed into 12 clusters of 7 villages each....when did the size of clusters change from 14 to 7 i have no information about.....

    your piece was very informative and it did help me put some missing links together....thanks for such an effort.....

    could u please tell me if that book is still under publication and where in delhi can i buy it.....
    honour the gods, love ur women , defend ur country

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    Ravi ji
    some thing seems very perplexing when it is recorded that brotherkalaslayan of salaskshpal gave name to another group villages and these tomars joined gujar main stream.
    Now can jats and gujars interchange the names of their groups so conviniently,or Kalalayan gave name only to gujar khap.What is the relationship between two?

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb
    Ravi ji
    some thing seems very perplexing when it is recorded that brotherkalaslayan of salaskshpal gave name to another group villages and these tomars joined gujar main stream.
    Now can jats and gujars interchange the names of their groups so conviniently,or Kalalayan gave name only to gujar khap.What is the relationship between two?
    I cannot say how it is so.

    R S Joon, also points to this, and that the Jats and Gujjar also share common goths.

    The only reasonable explanation seems to be is that some Jats joined the Gujjar stream, and in time were called Gujjars.

    see:

    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/JatHis...20S%20Joon%20/



    GUJAR AND JATS


    The Gujar Community is a martial community of India.

    Until now Historians have not been able to say exactly as to what is the origin of word Gujar, Gurjar, Gaocher, Kosar, Khosa or Khijar.

    The Gujars are also described in modern history books as descendants of Huns. The theory is that Hun tribes used to keep on moving but their base was in the country near Bahre Khijar (Black sea). From here they went to Europe and Central Asia. Their main occupation was grazing cattle and sheep. They used to call themselves Khujar. Khujar got converted to Gujar


    Although Huns were shepherds,they were brave warriors. They were from pure Aryan stock they invaded India in about 400 AD.

    When defeated and driven out by king YASHODHARAMAN they concealed themselves in the mountains. A large number settled down in these countries.

    But amongst Indian Gujars only five gotras are after the name of Hun Sardars.Th e rest of the Gujars are from Jat Gotras. Some of them are from Rajputs also.

    Dr. Huthi of Georgia paid a visit to India in 1967 and studied the Gujars living in Northern India. He has stated that there are Georgian tribes too among the Gujars because the accent of the Indian Gujars, their dress and their bullock carts resemble that of the Georgians. Dr. Huthi is of the view that they came to India when Timur let loose a reign of terror over them and consequently they settled here. They came here to protect their lives and religion and called themselves Georgian", Jorjars",. Later this word was changed into Gujjar.

    The "Khetana" caste of the Gujjars is also a proof of the fact that they came from Khotan.

    The Gujar Gotras are divided into three groups. One group is after the name of Hun Sardars; these are Meharkul, Torman, Jabila, Chhabri Chiche etc.

    The second group is after the names of foreign Jat groups whose ancestors have come from Gor and Khotan coutries; these are Casana, Khatana, Gorsi, (Ghosi) Birket etc. The third and largest group Gujars of gotras are the same as Jat Gotras.


    The Gujar force ascendancy arose after the death of King Harsh Vardhana and they undertook the task of protecting the Hindu religion and
    checking the advance of Islam on the Western frontiers of the country.


    The Jats accepted Gujar leadership because Gujars were Buddhists and had arisen for a noble cause. The Jats who joined the Gujar force also came to be known as Gujars by and by. (Kings of Solankni Gotra,PANWAR or PARTIHARS established two kingdoms named BHINMAL, and TIRA (ACHALGARH) in the area of Mount Abu.

    The proof of Parmars and Pratihars being Gujars or Huns is that there was a town named JABLAPURI which both these kingdoms claimed as their heritage. JABILA ( HUN) was the chief of the tribe.


    Kasana or KASVAN is a Jat Gotra in Rajasthan at present. King KANISKA was a foreign Yuchi (YATI Jat and Khathans were Khotani or Turkish Jats. Turkistan has been a pure Jat country and the ancestors or Turks were of TAKSHAK GHORSI (Ghosi) (GHORZAY), the Zablastanis of Kabul were Indians.

    GORZAI a big tribe of Pathans in Ghazni (ZABILASTAN) claim their origin from Gazni.

    The Gaur Jats and Rajput had their kingdoms in RAJASTHAN also.

    This was because AFGHANISTAN was a province of India and tribes often shifted from one province to another.


    The Arab historian SULEMAN NADVI in his book Tarikhe-Tibri' writes that in 900 A. D. there was a powerful Jat king of BALHARA Gotra. He ruled on the Western frontiers of India and was a fast friend of Arab Kings.

    On the other hand the Gujar was a bitter foe of Arab and Islam. The Gujar rule had that time spread over most of India. About 70 Jat Gotras joined the Gujar force and started calling themselves GUJARS. Some of these Jat Gotras are given below.
    Bhind
    Bhoria
    Bhatti
    Babar
    Bagiar
    Bar
    Bhilaut
    Bhadan
    Chalukya
    Chaura
    Cirwar
    Changas
    Dulesra
    Duhal
    Dehru
    Goraya
    Jarija
    Jinder
    Kitcher
    Kataria
    Khokkar
    Khirya
    Khare
    Kharal
    Punia
    Rathi
    Rawasia
    Phalswal(Poruval)
    Sindher
    Singal
    Sargu



    Lamba
    Midhan
    Matsara
    Medh
    Puni
    Sandal
    Thakrela
    Titarwal
    Tanwar
    Thand
    Gomat
    Girwar
    Gaherwal
    Jamgal
    Jaglain
    Bander
    Birru
    Chandal
    Chandel
    Chhonker

    The Gujars were Buddhists. After the death of King Harsha vardhan, the Puranic Mat eclipsed Buddhism.

    The Brahmin priests did not admit Gujars as 'Akshatriyas' calling them foreigners.

    This point was an obstacle for hem in winning over the public
    faith and establishing a firm Gujar rule- With this policy, the Brahmins succeeded in converting Gujars from Buddhism to the
    Puranic Mat.

    Later the Gujars in power were named as 'Rajputs', after the ceremony of 'Agni Kund Yagya' and granted the privileges to be classified as 'Aksahtriyas'


    Source : R S Joon- History of the Jats, Rohtak, India
    Ch 6. ' offshoot communities of the Jats'

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    There seems to be a different reason for this phenomenon.

    Jats seems to be a much older tribe than gujjars who clearly seems to have come along with hunas or prior to them their customs seems completely different than jats.There foreign relation is highlighted by the presence of mihiragul etc.gotra in them.

    It seems more likely that these gujjars accepted jat gotra of a particular area where jats were dominant.

    This is just similar to some groups low in social status using the gotr of jats of some particular area which is evident today also.

    It is also supported by the harsh charita of bhan bhat or records o f yuan chwang where gujjars are mentioned for the first time and adoption of titles of( Hun harin) and (Gujjar Prajagarh) by jat king Harshwardhan Virk meaning the enemy of Huns and the person who accepts gujjars as his Praja.

    Combining all these factors of dominant position advanced culture a nd cooperation of jats with gujjars it seems more likely that gujjars of particular area identified themselves with jat gotras than other way around.

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    Sarav Khap Records

    Quote Originally Posted by ravichaudhary
    A history of the Jat Tomars (1)

    The descendants of Salakshpal Tomar even toady, are to be found living in Desh republic, near modern Baraut, proud of their royal lineage and that they are Jats. This Khap is also known as Salakyan Tomars. His other brother Salakshpal gave his name to 84 villages of Kalashlayan Gujars, and
    those Jats have joined the Gujar stream.
    Salakshpal tomar jat decendants are represented as salakyan tomars

    HIS OTHER BROTHER SALAKSHPAL(WHO? SALAKSHPAL HIMSELF) GAVE NAME(SIGNIFYING GAVE THEIR IDENTITY(NAME AND GOTR) TO 84 VILLAGES OF KALASHLAYAN GUJJARS.Its clear these were gujjars already.

    It means gujjars adopted gotr of jat tomars.

    In context of above two lines third line's significance becomes redundant.

    Please go once again throug the interpertation of sarv khap records.

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    Mihirkula was Jat and not Gujjar

    Plz refer Thakur prasad sharma (suresh) in a book which is a hindi translation of Huensang travels in India. Mihirkula says to the mother of Baladitya of Magadh "A short time ago I was the king of Jit country, now I'm a prisonar under the sentence of death". Baladitya not only sent him alive but also married his younger daughter to Mihirkula.

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    mihirkula was the king of Magadh

    Emperor Mihirkula was succeeded at Patliputra by his son, Ajitanjaya, as per Jain chronicles. Thus Toraman, Mihirkula and Ajitanjaya are the Hari(vaishnav), Hara(Shaiv) and Ajit, respectively of AMMK! And it was during the reign of Ajit that the Indian empire of Johl(Jauvala), modern Jawla jats of UP disintegrated.

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    keeli hui se dhilli, tomer mutt hu jo matiheen kara tu yae seedhi

    this iron pillar of jats was once became a wonder like the leaning pissa's tower today. in those days another few wonders of the world. like chinese wall was the only man made object that can be seen from moonn with a naked eye. all those wonders were created by jats n jats only.

    regarding "palam inscription 'Kaharb' u r right that no rajput word is mentioned over there" 2days marathas were no rajputs n they dnt pride also in saying so. but sivaji when coronnated was associated with the solar dynasty of gahlauts of chittore which alberuni mentioned as jattore/jittore.

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    sivaji was no gahlote

    he was from the haihaya branch of yadavs. who were constantly getting jat blood in them with the feeling of aristocracy. the rulers at all costs n never 2 b subordinates. plz consult bombay gazetteer where its aptly stated by the britishers that "jats created terror in sea as the most deadly sea pirates"

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    Kharbji,
    On Wikipedia, Tomara is written for tomar rajputs. you may search Tomara.
    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb
    As we go through the information about Rajput gotras,there is no mention on wikipedia about tomars as one of their gotra,Howere if we take taur synonimus with tomars they are said to be present around delhi in wikipedia.looking at the Tomars around delhi they are all jats so numerous that they call it Desh. So far we hardly find any village of tomar rajputs.

    Now and also in the past there is and was an attempt to link these Tomars with rajputs witout any basis without any proof just to snatch their glorious history from them.Jats have hardly bothered about them in past as it did not effect them if some body else consider their forefather as theirs but since such a myth if propogated and not countered may be taken as a truth.

    Such attepts as reported in Jat history site must be refuted and be condemened by protest via demonstrations(TO CREATE PUBLIC AWARENESS) by jat tomar desh khap and others so that this wrong notion and attempt to appropriate their glorious past may be refuted.
    Laxman Burdak

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    my dadi was deswal

    burdakji, do u know wht this deswal means? deswal/dalal/mann/suhag were just one got. similar to dahiya/dabas, [brar-jun (prar-jun), inscribed on allahabad pillar inscription of samudragupta]. this rkji seems 2 b a real jat. he wants to fix max muller in grave. not very long back jats fixed akbar in grave at sikandara that too at a time when aurangzeb was in power.

    jat has a common desease he never dies b4 he explains 2 his kinsfolk that such n such person has helped us remember it n such n such person has harmed us remember it. his is deadly friendly n at the same time deadly foe also; whose friendship n enemity continues fr generations. 100, 200, thousands years matter little for him.

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    there were many marathas with me at IIT delhi

    first thing they wondered was "yaar is north india me Naak (nose) mostly sub ka seedha hota hai". n e way sivaji was "bhonsle" like lata n asha singers. thr used 2 be 5 states of marathas
    1. scindias of gwalior
    2. holkers of indore
    3. gaekwads of ahmedabad
    4. bhonsles of nagpur
    5. peshwas of pune

    now 2day, scindias of gwalior (which originally used 2 b a jat fort, very ancient one since b4 the mauryan time), claim 2 b rajputs, but in fact they r marathas.

    this conversion of the jat like martial races started getting converted into rajputs perhaps after prithvi raj chauhan at least. He defeated gauri when all jats of punjab haryana area were with him. but got defeated when he annoyed or gaury pleased these jats. there was no 17 attacks by gauri. it were 2 only. first got defeated n then he defeated prithviraj.

    all balls n foolish story of "char baans chaubis gaz etc...." n he killed gauri after being blinded by him.

    in fact he was ruling under gauri for one year at ajmer. when tried 2 act smart gauri killed him n made his son as ruler of ajmer.

    v have coins of this time where on one side its written "prithvi raj dev"
    n on other "mohmd bin sam" another name of gauri. n e archaeological department of india has these coins. n e good historian knows it even children of 12th class.

    wht chandrabardaai wrote in prithvi raj raso was all imagination and there he got confused with ghazni n gauri. ghazni did made 17 attempts of loot n plunder. in 16th one he himself was looted by jats at sindh (in modern pak) n hardly could save his own life. his 17th attack was then not 2 loot but to punish the jats of sindh.

    such conversion of some jats, gujjars, heers(aheers), marathas, hilly people of uttaranchl, himanchal, jammu etc. continued as late as the coranation of sivaji just a few hundred years back.

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    Shivaji was not a jat

    Quote Originally Posted by sktewatia View Post
    he was from the haihaya branch of yadavs. who were constantly getting jat blood in them with the feeling of aristocracy. the rulers at all costs n never 2 b subordinates. plz consult bombay gazetteer where its aptly stated by the britishers that "jats created terror in sea as the most deadly sea pirates"

    Mr. Teotia,

    I appreciate your depth of knowlidge.

    But Shivaji Rao Bhonsle was a Gujjar from Bhosle clan.
    His second son was married to the daughter of his chief commander Pratp Rao Gujar.

    The kingdom of Nagpore, Satara, Kolahpore ruled by him were known to be as Gujar kingdoms in 1862.

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    Ravi Thanks for the useful information. Though i belong to kishanppur baral but was not aware abt this. Thanks a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by priyanka View Post
    Ravi Thanks for the useful information. Though i belong to kishanppur baral but was not aware abt this. Thanks a lot.

    Dont feel bad about it.

    I have been studying HIstory for many years, and I was ignorant about it too.

    If you wish to help, please disseminate this information among your family and friends- Jat and non Jat

    Best regards


    Ravi Chaudhary

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    Tomar Rabar Saran

    Ravi ji and you all,

    thanks a lot for this very informative online community. I am mostly interested about people from Tomar Rabar and Saran gotras who left India between 1100-1300 CE.

    Do you know of any recorded history about Jats migrations towards the other parts of the Indian Ocean around this period?

    Thanks.

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