Jat is origin of Ujjain
SK Tewatiaji mentioned about Ujjain
"I'd like to mention that while Jats are mentioned they were never noticed by Indian historians deliberately. One is from Sunda inscription of Sinda chief Chavunda, which says that "just as Amravati looked ever beautiful with Indra, or Ayodhya with the descendents of Raghu, Mathura with Govinda, Ujjayni with Gutta, and Hastinapur with son of Marut (Bhima); so also Erambarapura attained gracefulness with Sinda Chief Chavunda". Now all the references are well understood, but no one has explained who were or was the Gutta (or Guttan) through whom the city of Ujjayani was so known."
Ujjain on Wikipedia
The earliest references to the city, as Ujjaini, are from the time of the Buddha, when it was the capital of the kingdom of Avanti.
Ujjain was the traditional capital of King Chandragupta II, also known as Vikramaditya, at whose court the nine poets known as the navaratna (nine jewels) of Sanskrit literature are said to have flourished. It marks the first meridian of longitude in Hindu geography. It is also reputed to have been the residence of Ashoka (who subsequently became the emperor), when he was the viceroy of the western provinces of the Maurya empire. It was invaded by the Delhi Sultanate lead by Iltutmish in 1235 causing widespread destruction and systematic desecration of temples.(Ref-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ujjain )
My suggestions
1. It appears to prove the theory given by Thakur Deshraj, in Jat History, that Jats moved from Malwa to Scandinavia and founded Jutland. When Jats moved their Sangh got recognized with different names in different parts of the world as explained above in this thread.
2. Under certain conditions beyond their control they migrated from Scandinavia back to Malwa region, their homeland, after hundreds of years. When they came back they were known as Gutta or Guttan, as mentioned in Sunda inscription by Tewatiaji. Gutta later on got changed to Gupta.
3. Jat may be the origin of Ujjain explained as under:
Jat .....Jatt (As in Punjab)
Jatt .....Jutt
Jutt ..... Gutt(J.....G)
Gutt ....... Guttan (As mentioned in Sunda inscription)
Guttan ........Gutian
Gutian..........Gutyan
Gutyan.........Gutjan (Y....J)
Gutjan..........Utjan (G’silent as Gunnis ,19, in Malwa becomes Unnis in Hindi)
Ut+Jan.........Ă*Ujjan (meaning noble people)
Ujjan .........Ujjain
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Yesterday, 05:58 PM #81 Dr. S. K. Tewatia vbmenu_register("postmenu_74553", true);
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Gupta and Barbarian have the same meaning
Gupt(a) means iin hindi Secret, hidden or little known. Once I discussed the word barbarian(often attached with arayans) word with Romila Thapar's research scholar. She explained that it meant little known people. It is true also. Not only Aryans but getae, guts etc. are called barbarians by herodotus also. I'll quote from history chapter "persian wars" describing the fight of massageate queen tomyris with Cyrus the great around 5-6 century BC, when cyrus was killed; "First they faught on horse back with arrows, then with spears etc. n in last both the armies came on hand to hand fighting. In all the bloody wars in which these barbarians engage themselves this war was the fiercest"
not only jat and aryan but saka, huns, turks etc. are also called barbarians. This is differently taken in history from the word barbaric which means ruthless. why these jats aryan saka etc. are called barbarians or little known people is due to the fact that most of history writers were non jats. n jats were usually little known to these outsiders i.e. non-jats.