Jatland or humor site

[sjakhars]

Respected Jatlanders,
First I posted this on Vinod's thread but than I thought it will not be noticed properly so I put my feelings here under a new thread. This is the link of the old post for an example.
http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13201


I am feeling this all for a long time and thought that some respected and senior members would take some action and try to correct all this but nobody is coming forward.
Let me make a start.I know many stones wiil be coming towards me but still I would say what I want to say.

I urge all Jatlanders Please take some action to correct this.This site is losing its purpose. Mr. Nitin Dahiya's all hard work and the contribution of respected Jatlanders is being ruined.
I want to say please make some limitations and rules so we can see some healthy discussion again on Jatland. I am a member of this site since march 2005 and day by day the site is losing its learned, respected members and good thought provoking discussions and posts too. Those who are still here afraid to post in any section because the fate of the post will be same like Vinod's this post.
Mr.Ram phal Deswal said in a very popular post and I also want to say same.
This site is being changed to a humor site only.
Humor is part of life but its not everything.
Life is not ha..ha..ha.hi..hi..hi, kiillki and gagu.
There are many thing to take care of.

This post is not an offence to anbody.Please do not take it personal and think about it.

Regards.

[devdahiya]

You got a point there.we need to ponder over really.Lets have some serious discussions too apart from humor which should also continue in a more sensible manner.

[atul.jhajhria]

Correct

Mr. Nitin Dahiya has done a great job.

but

we are loosing our purpose!

Nitin Dahiya=Take hard steps now, it would be late tomorrow.

I am concerned about those members who dont let meaningful discussion!

I am angry!

Stern action should be taken.

We are here for upliftment of our people!

Atul

[narenderkharb]

It s really sad that jatland has just become a nonserious plateform for discussion.

People are even shying away from commenting on posts.

Views of respected members should be taken in right perspective.

But we have to find out who is responcible for it Keshav rupender dalal all were here and always posted proper comments in proper sections and every body enjoyed their comments.

I request that single fellow to comment on others post in a mature way.

This site is not our chat room it presents our image outside.

[rkumar]

If response is any criteria to the poluparity of any thread, no one really wants to read threads like Gold medal win by a Jat boy and then discuss sports among Jats. Guys get into endless debate on topics like I am Jat first or things like that. How such threads are going to help fellow Jats or members? No one gets inspired by the threads which talk of contributions of a humble man in hinterlands of India. How site can remain meaningful with such insensitivies of members ? This is why I suppose welling meaning members stop contibuting to the site as they realise that its no point singing songs to insensitive / irresponsible people. When site gets flooded by meaningless threads who gets time to read something which needs commitment and resources. All talks of lifting the community get diluted into thin air.

RK^2

[deswal]

In this regard I am inclined to suggest that the stuff that is more of a dialogue nature may be discussed in the ‘Chaupal” among a small group of members.

I believe that the comments that are discouraging, disparaging and/or sarcastic in nature particularly on the posts by new members must be avoided. Many of the young members were brought up (if not borne) in urban settings—quite lacking in the ‘teth’ heartland culture; and precisely because of that they are here sharing these forums with us. Otherwise how many from the ‘teth’ culture can make it to these kind of forums at this age? So they are a unique blend. Naturally, many of them must be lacking somewhere. When they want to make up this by trying to associate themselves with us we should encourage them. Unfortunately some of them may even not understand the circumstantial meaning of some phrases used by us.

So I would make an earnest request to all members to kindly care for these tender hearts! We have an obligation towards them if we wish that this rich literary culture of ours , which somehow survives even without any script for Haryanavi, passes to the coming generations. No jokes! A serious question, please. Administrators or any one else for that matter can not define such intricacies for us to follow. It is only the right kind of accommodating spirit that can work. Any body disagreeing may please let us know as to who is going to care for them if we do not.

[vijay]

It s really sad that jatland has just become a nonserious plateform for discussion.

People are even shying away from commenting on posts.

Views of respected members should be taken in right perspective.

But we have to find out who is responcible for it Keshav rupender dalal all were here and always posted proper comments in proper sections and every body enjoyed their comments.

I request that single fellow to comment on others post in a mature way.

This site is not our chat room it presents our image outside.

I think Narender picked up the nerve of this matter exactly.

[jitendershooda]

I urge all Jatlanders Please take some action to correct this.This site is losing its purpose. Mr. Nitin Dahiya's all hard work and the contribution of respected Jatlanders is being ruined.
I want to say please make some limitations and rules so we can see some healthy discussion again on Jatland. I am a member of this site since march 2005 and day by day the site is losing its learned, respected members and good thought provoking discussions and posts too. Those who are still here afraid to post in any section because the fate of the post will be same like Vinod's this post.
Mr.Ram phal Deswal said in a very popular post and I also want to say same.
This site is being changed to a humor site only.
Humor is part of life but its not everything.
Life is not ha..ha..ha.hi..hi..hi, kiillki and gagu.
There are many thing to take care of.

This post is not an offence to anbody.Please do not take it personal and think about it.

Regards.

Respected Jakhar ji,

You are right in your views that we should have some healthy discussions on the site and i think these are going on time and then. It is right that now a days the humour section is going more popular and no of posts are majorly from this section only. But this doesn't mean that "this site got changed to just a humour site" ....it is upon us to chose which section to go and post and i think nobody is holding us for doing so.

If guys/gals are doing and using some kind of words in the humour section then i found no offence in it and neither we should point them for doing so ....unless and until they are personal to someone and that guy should write to moderator and should be warned for these acts if really needed.

Ya you are right that we should just be wiser and restrictive in our posts so that we donot directly pinch anybody ...as you have mentioned that some of the members are scared of posting their replies....THIS IS BAD.

We can have Humour and other good thought provoking discussions and posts too...to go side by side ...

This is good Jakhar ji that you have put forward these thought of yours and there is nothing like that ki .. "I know many stones wiil be coming towards me but still I would say what I want to say". We all are bros and linked to each other and rather respect each other ...even in those replies of theirs i can see that they are doing so just for fun and not for hurting somebody ...haan you are elders and guide us better which way we can improve these ...

[virenderkhokhar]

In this regard I am inclined to suggest that the stuff that is more of a dialogue nature may be discussed in the ‘Chaupal” among a small group of members.

I believe that the comments that are discouraging, disparaging and/or sarcastic in nature particularly on the posts by new members must be avoided. Many of the young members were brought up (if not borne) in urban settings—quite lacking in the ‘teth’ heartland culture; and precisely because of that they are here sharing these forums with us. Otherwise how many from the ‘teth’ culture can make it to these kind of forums at this age? So they are a unique blend. Naturally, many of them must be lacking somewhere. When they want to make up this by trying to associate themselves with us we should encourage them. Unfortunately some of them may even not understand the circumstantial meaning of some phrases used by us.

So I would make an earnest request to all members to kindly care for these tender hearts! We have an obligation towards them if we wish that this rich literary culture of ours , which somehow survives even without any script for Haryanavi, passes to the coming generations. No jokes! A serious question, please. Administrators or any one else for that matter can not define such intricacies for us to follow. It is only the right kind of accommodating spirit that can work. Any body disagreeing may please let us know as to who is going to care for them if we do not.

well ...a lot had been said already in this thread about the non serious discussions....but wat it reflects...the mental state of us jats...it doesnt mean that younger generation isnt the serious abt important issues even involving our welfare....but wat i feel about this site is that anything that has been shared in here is a treasure ....humour section in special ...jats have been known for their uncanning humour....how can i contribute to our jat community even without getting involved in so called social service...by achieving a personal milestone...which in turn will motivate other fellow jats..that they can also achieve this being of the same background...this is indeed a great thing in itself...there are so many jats people i know who are not member of jatland....so whosoever is a member of this site is infact contributing in a sense that they do feel abt the community and get to read about jatwelfare even if it is not that much..this leaves a consicousness in our mind abt this thing which in future can grow...becoz these urban jats are not that concerned abt jatness.....as for me personally every time i get to know abt ne member who has done something special in ne field i do feel energised.........and our elder and intellactual members sud not be discourged ...they sud continue though no visible effects havnt been noticed....there is problem with non jat people they take jats otherwise....illiterate, rude, involved in fights and things like becoz they dunn know abt our qualities of being straightforwardness, true and hardworker, humourous...there are many educated jats who also feel this way...

so everbody here is in anyway contributing...more or less

[devdahiya]

well ...a lot had been said already in this thread about the non serious discussions....but wat it reflects...the mental state of us jats...it doesnt mean that younger generation isnt the serious abt important issues even involving our welfare....but wat i feel about this site is that anything that has been shared in here is a treasure ....humour section in special ...jats have been known for their uncanning humour....how can i contribute to our jat community even without getting involved in so called social service...by achieving a personal milestone...which in turn will motivate other fellow jats..that they can also achieve this being of the same background...this is indeed a great thing in itself...there are so many jats people i know who are not member of jatland....so whosoever is a member of this site is infact contributing in a sense that they do feel abt the community and get to read about jatwelfare even if it is not that much..this leaves a consicousness in our mind abt this thing which in future can grow...becoz these urban jats are not that concerned abt jatness.....as for me personally every time i get to know abt ne member who has done something special in ne field i do feel energised.........and our elder and intellactual members sud not be discourged ...they sud continue though no visible effects havnt been noticed....there is problem with non jat people they take jats otherwise....illiterate, rude, involved in fights and things like becoz they dunn know abt our qualities of being straightforwardness, true and hardworker, humourous...there are many educated jats who also feel this way...

so everbody here is in anyway contributing...more or less

True.......in every sense of things. May be serious matters don't appeal to the majority.....anyways all the best to all jat bhais and sisters.Bang on regardless. Sound inputs these by Virender bhai.

[sjakhars]

First of all I want to thank you all for your support and attention to this thread. I knew that if I start the post I will get good support.

Respected Hooda sir,
I am nor elder neither experinced and do not have authority to say something personal or particular but at the same time I think its my duty to draw attention towards the things that are being ignored. Its my humble request to see the changes Jatland has got in last one year. Although I am not a good initiater but I follow up good discussions and if I feel that I can put my thoughts there, I always do that.
Question here is not why we are too much active in humor or time pass or mauj-masti. Humor is the essence of our culture but at the same time we do need to think about the community, the culture and the problems, our community is facing in present.This is a transitional phase for our community.We are coming out of villages and getting on to the world so the experienced people here on Jatland can provide some good suggestions and guide younger generations like me and others.
What provoked me to start this thred is declining number of this kind of posts.
And again I would like to say that members are afraid to post their thought and ideas. I got some PM after starting this thread that I have a valid point here.
What I can do here is to revive the old threads and bring them back in discussion, so the new members could know that here we do have serious discussions and we do think about the community upliftment.

Again I want to say that this post is not in anyone's offence.

Regards.

This is good Jakhar ji that you have put forward these thought of yours and there is nothing like that ki .. "I know many stones wiil be coming towards me but still I would say what I want to say". We all are bros and linked to each other and rather respect each other ...even in those replies of theirs i can see that they are doing so just for fun and not for hurting somebody ...haan you are elders and guide us better which way we can improve these ...

[virenderkhokhar]

First of all I want to thank you all for your support and attention to this thread. I knew that if I start the post I will get good support.

Respected Hooda sir,
I am nor elder neither experinced and do not have authority to say something personal or particular but at the same time I think its my duty to draw attention towards the things that are being ignored. Its my humble request to see the changes Jatland has got in last one year. Although I am not a good initiater but I follow up good discussions and if I feel that I can put my thoughts there, I always do that.
Question here is not why we are too much active in humor or time pass or mauj-masti. Humor is the essence of our culture but at the same time we do need to think about the community, the culture and the problems, our community is facing in present.This is a transitional phase for our community.We are coming out of villages and getting on to the world so the experienced people here on Jatland can provide some good suggestions and guide younger generations like me and others.
What provoked me to start this thred is declining number of this kind of posts.
And again I would like to say that members are afraid to post their thought and ideas. I got some PM after starting this thread that I have a valid point here.
What I can do here is to revive the old threads and bring them back in discussion, so the new members could know that here we do have serious discussions and we do think about the community upliftment.

Again I want to say that this post is not in anyone's offence.

Regards.

well...i request those who sent mr. jakhar PMs secretly to come out openly and vent out everything they feel abt anything ...i dunn know why they are feeling suppressed as evrybody is welcome here...only way they can make things change wat they feel is right is by involving themselves.......chup chaap or chupe rahne se kaam nahin chelga

[gaganjat]

Majak to hona hi chayiea. Lekin jada bakwas, aadmi ko bor hi karti hai. Too much non-sense should be avoided.

[mukeshkumar007]

Majak to hona hi chayiea. Lekin jada bakwas, aadmi ko bor hi karti hai. Too much non-sense should be avoided.

sehi keh rehe ho bhai....

[ratheetheraist]

First of all I want to thank you all for your support and attention to this thread. I knew that if I start the post I will get good support.

congratulations jakhar saab.....for the supprt u got..........

[rekharathee]

well said hoodaji,

its personal choice, if somebody doesnt like humour post, why he read that? why he comments on that? and then try to show that he is very intellectual. this is really hippocracy.

and if sombody do not have enough ettiquettes to handle the humour, plz dont visit humour section, there is no compulsion to visit there

since last week this matter has been a subject of "debate" for no decent reason.

[sjakhars]

Vikas sir,
Mera koi chunav ladne ka irada nahi hai.
I wrote these lines in sense that some respected members also feel same what I felt. If u feel I hurt you or anybody else than I am really sorry.That can be interpreted by your comment.
I had no intention to comment personally on anybody initiating this thread.
I also like humor but at the same time when I felt that other issues are being ignored than I put my feeling here.

Regards.

congratulations jakhar saab.....for the supprt u got..........

[chhillar]

I agree with most of the above said but just jumping on the opportunity to preach alone is not going land this site anywhere better.

My major concern on the site is not humor or kilki, I think that still ok (of course in limits) but what about hate threads against other religions, communities, regions, casts etc.

I never see the senior sounding (at least on this site) members or the moderators/facilitators coming forward to deter that.

Let me give you an example...
We have this Spring Jat Party in Edmonton coming up on 1st Apr, 2006 and some of the members wanted to bring their close/family friends to the party but we thought of not doing that because who know somebody starts a HATE thread there too.

Like it is said before I don't mean to target anybody here...

[chhillar]

How come nobody is commenting here???Is it cus hate threads are good to have and it's just me being odd man out?

[devdahiya]

How come nobody is commenting here???Is it cus hate threads are good to have and it's just me being odd man out?

No Mr chhillar, hate threads are the poison enough to tarnish the image of Humanity....Who says people don't speak up? Kindly read things with an objective mind.......You may have to re-think on your utterances once you do that...Thanks and all the best!