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  1. #21

    Just a Reminder....

    Dear All,

    It is not the question of whether one 'Gotra' has more numbers than the other. What difference does it make. The question asked should be what have we done to mitigate the problems of JATS.

    Also a remineder to those who have been propagating the union of all JATS (Hindu, Muslim & Sikhs) under one banner, GATHWALA (MALIK) is undoubtadly a very big GOTRA.

    I am waiting for the day when JATS as a whole will be the biggest and strongest group in this world.

    Till then keep persevering.

    regards,

    JS malik
    Last edited by jagmohan; June 24th, 2006 at 10:40 PM.
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  2. #22
    KNOW YOUR JAT HISTORY.- KNOW YOUR ORIGIN
    THIS IS GOOD FOR UNITY & PROGRESS.
    ALL THIS INFORMATION IS ON THIS SITE ALSO ON WIKI JAT GOTRA AND ON MANY SEARCH- LINK OF JAT HISTORY
    Punia or Poonia is a gotra of jats in Rajasthan, India. They are the descendents of Paunbhadra rishi. They belong to the Naag race. As per Hisar Gazetteer they are considered to be of Shiva gotra, originated from the locks of Shiva. Shivi and Taxak were neighbourers. After the attack of Alexander the Shivi and Taxak people moved down Panjab and occupied jangladesh. Punia Gotra Jats were one of them to occupy parts of Jangladesh. They reached here in early century and ruled till 15th century when Rathores occupied the Jangladesh.

    Rathores under the leadership of Bika and Kandal were spreading their rule in Jangladesh. At that time Punia Jat were ruling six states and about 300 villages. The extent of rule of Punias spread from Jhasal, which was their capital, to Marod. Marod town is situated at a distance of about 40 kms from present Rajgarh town. Godara Jats had aligned with Rathores due to which Punias faced a defeat and moved to Uttar Pradesh. Punias had strongly retaliated and were able to kill Rathore Raja Rai Singh.

    Reference
    Thakur Deshraj: Jat Itihas (Hindi), Maharaja Suraj Mal Smarak Shiksha Sansthan, Delhi, 1934.



    The Poonia Gotra history which dated way back in 1459 AD,when house of Joda were in process to annex the six Jat cantons namely.

    1 Poonia 300 Bahaderan, Ajltpoor, Scedmookh, 'RaJgurh', Dadrewoh, Sankoo, etc

    2 Beniwal 150 Bookurko, Sondurie, Munohurpoor, Kooie, Bae etc.

    3 Johya 600 Jaetpoor, Koombanoh, Maha]in, Peepa sir Uodigoor etc.

    4 Asiag'h 150 Raotsir, Birmsir, Dandoosir, Gundaeli

    5 Saran 100 Kaijur, Phoag, Boochawas, Sowae, Badinoo Sirsilah. etc.

    6 Godara 700 Poondrasir, Gosensir (great)) Shelihsir Gursisir) Garibdesir, Rungaysir) Kaloo) etc.


    Ram Singh, son of Kalayan Singh, was slained by Poonia Jats , who were among the last 6 jat cantons succummed by Jodas conquest :


    Here are the excerpts from Lt. Col James Tod's Annals & Antiqueties of Rajathan.:



    They considered themselves, in short, as a distinct class, and, as a Pooniah Jit informed me " their wuttun was far beyond the five Rivers." Even in the name of one of the six communities (the Asiagh), on whose submission Beeka founded his new state, we have nearly the Asi, the chief of the four tribes from the Oxus and Jaxartes, who overturned the Greek kingdom of Bactria.
    The period of Rahtore domination over these patriarchal communities was intermediate between Timoor's and Baber's invasion of India. The former, who was the founder of the Chagitai dynasty, boasts of the myriads of Jat souls he " consigned to perdition " on the desert plains of India, as well as in Transoxiana. So we may conclude that successive migrations of this people from the great " storehouse of nations " went to the lands east of the Indus, and that the communities who elected Beeka as their sovereign, had been stablished therein for ages. The extent of their possessions justifies this conclusion ; for nearly the whole of the territory forming the boundaries of Bikaner was possessed by the six Jat cantons namely:

    1. Poonia, 2, Godara, 3. Saran 4. Asiagh 5. Beniwal 6. Johya, or Joweya


    Calain Sing succeeded in S. 1603. He had three sons, 1. Rae Sing; 2. Ram Sing ; and 3, Pirthi Sing.

    Rae Sing succeeded in S. 1630 (A.D. 1573)- Until this reign the Jats had, in a great degree, preserved their ancient privileges. Their maintenance was however, found rather inconvenient, by the now superabundant Rajpoot population, and they were consequently dispossessed of all political authority


    Ram Sing, having thus destroyed the power of future resistance in the Johyas, turned his arms against the Poonia Jats, the last who preserved their ancient liberty. They were vanquished, and the Rajpoots were inducted into their most valuable possessions. But the conqueror paid the penalty ot his life for the glory of colonising the lands of the Pooniahs. He was slain in their expiring effort to shake off the yoke of the stranger ; and though the Ramsingotes add to the numerical strength, and enlarge the territory of the heirs of Beeka, they, like the Kandulotes, little increase the power of the state, to which their obedience is nominal. Seedmook'h and Sankoo are the two chief places of the Ramsingotes.
    SOURCE- AADHUNIK JAT ITIHAS- DHARMPAL SINGH DUDEE
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  3. #23
    DEAR MAJOR Rajender Sahib
    thank you for welcome.
    JOSH TO BANAYE RAKHNA HAE
    NAHI TO MERI LIKHI JAT HISTORY HI WRONG HO JAYEGI,
    AUR AP JANETY HAN KI- CHandgi Ram ji ky Akhde ka Pahalwan jo hun.
    AKK BAR Sachai ki Ungali- pakad kar pahucha pakdne per fir hath nahi chhudta. Fact - FIGURE RIGHT HONI CHAHIYE.
    SACHI KAHANA SUKHI RAHNA.
    Apaki Sisters mile thi Rambas mae- Unke Barane Aage Shadi mae Khub dance kiya.
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  4. #24
    ANI YAH TO PATA CHAL GAYA KI BHAI TUH MEMORIAL KY PHOTO - MOVIE TO NAHI BAEJGA.
    44 Villages to Charkhi Dadri mae hi Sangwan KY- Panjab mae Sanga khap hae. UP- Haryana- Rajastan mae bahut Gaun han.
    Per tuh- Kishan Singh Sangwan ny Ex- MP Kuyu Bana raha hae. BJP MP FROM SONIPAT- ABHI TO BANAKAR AAYE HAN- DELHI MAE MILA THA.
    SANGWAN KY JAGGA KO LAEKAR- KHEDI BURA SY PIDHI MILA KAR AAYA HUN. BAHUT INFORMATION MILE HAE- AGLI BOOK MAI LIKHUGA
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  5. #25
    Dear Col Malik Sahib
    I agree with you. We All are blood brothers & Relatives.
    All gotras are= and one Family tree.
    Knowing History- Origin is good for unity & progress

    But that is the way we are.
    What is history - How to progess
    All are different topic.
    Yah to kuch nahi han- Jats jab ikhathe hote han yah bat to karty hi han.
    Yah to normal hae- Pata to jab lagga- Jab Fauji ka central pool gad ga.
    How to conduct a maeningful debate
    Some gotras are very old. They are common in Hindi- Sikh- Muslim Jats - Rajputs- Yadav- Gujar- Mali- BIshnoi.
    Even Gathwala Malik are union of 4 Gotras. But they have very old Panchayat and Dada Partha- 4 Dada to hamne dekh liy Dada Ch Ghasi Ram sy Abhitak
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    Ha ha ha ha ha Uncle ji foto bhej dee hain aapke talk21 account pe..

    Thanks again for the info..

    Sorry for referring Mr Sangwan as Ex MP, I really didn't remember that he is alone BJP MP in state.

    Regards,
    Anil

    Quote Originally Posted by ranjitjat
    ANI YAH TO PATA CHAL GAYA KI BHAI TUH MEMORIAL KY PHOTO - MOVIE TO NAHI BAEJGA.
    44 Villages to Charkhi Dadri mae hi Sangwan KY- Panjab mae Sanga khap hae. UP- Haryana- Rajastan mae bahut Gaun han.
    Per tuh- Kishan Singh Sangwan ny Ex- MP Kuyu Bana raha hae. BJP MP FROM SONIPAT- ABHI TO BANAKAR AAYE HAN- DELHI MAE MILA THA.
    SANGWAN KY JAGGA KO LAEKAR- KHEDI BURA SY PIDHI MILA KAR AAYA HUN. BAHUT INFORMATION MILE HAE- AGLI BOOK MAI LIKHUGA

  7. #27
    anyone who is looking for the biggest jat gotra, should look for the oldest jat gotra.
    jat wiki also provides much info on the issue too.
    Dahiya may not be living in 1000's of villages but i can guarantee that Dahiya is one of the most ancient gotra of jats.

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    I think Dudee sir we are missing one more gotra,,Thats Solanki
    i think there r more than 200 villages of solanki Gotra,,correct me if i am wrong ,,
    thanks
    Quote Originally Posted by ranjitjat
    RAY BHAI RAJENDER BAHUT DIN MAE MILA.
    ES ANIL TO MAE SUTA JAGA DIYA.
    SABH SY BADA GOTRA DUDI.
    PUNIYA KA- HOODA KA- FHOGAT KA- CHAHAR- CHAUHAN KA BADA BHAIBADA BHAI
    DAHIYA- MALIK- RANA- SANGWAN- KALIRAWANA- SHEORAN- BALODA- BALYAN- PILANIYA- SIHAG- SUHAG JAKHAR- TOMER- SHERAWAT- NEHRA- KADIYAN- AHLAWAT- PAWAR KA RISTAYDAR.
    SHEORAYAN KY 52+25= 84 KI KHAP HAE
    PUNIYA KA 300 KHEDA
    JAT PUNIYA HARYANA KY JO MARNE SY DARTE NAYA
    NAG BANAS KI DUDI SAKHA KY YAH SURVIR KAHLAYA

    GOTRA- DUDI & PUNIA RELATION.CH PITRAM DUDI EX SARPANCH- V. HAMIRWAS- DIST CHURU- RAJSATHAN.

    JAT PUNIYA-PUNIA GOTRA AND DUDI JAT GOTRA

    PUNIA- PUNIYA is one of the biggest jat Gotra. A very organised Khap history . had many wars with Rajput. During these war our ancestors Dudee helped them and became Dharam Bhai. Ch PitRam Dudee was sarpanch of Hamirwas village. He was also head of 300 villages of Punia Khap.
    This is Honour we got from Punia gotra for help in difficult time. These are Khandani values . Ponias are more democrat and they are still honour the old dharambhai values. Pitram Dudee is brother of ponias. But we have many relations with ponias khap and in Hamirwas itself.

  9. #29
    gulia ke 1,50,000 (dedh lakh gaam ) hariyaanna me
    ha ha ha
    kidding .....eeb chaadd maanaa jayiyo rashan paani leke
    dekh yoo neele (anil ) bethaa se kanthaare tadke tadak ,,,tukek thyawas rakhiyaa kadde aaja haade bhiddan hahahahah now

    dudee uncle namaste
    thanks for all the information ,plz put some light on gulia khap ki history also i just want to know? if u have some thing about that
    thanks a lot in advance i know aapkee pittare me jaroor hoga kooch if the thing is not relevent to the thread can pm me n tell thanks again
    Last edited by manu14; June 25th, 2006 at 10:02 AM.

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    Ha ha ha ha ha ha Manish...yoh kaatya rog...Dedh laakh gaam....ha ha ha ha ha.... Yeh apni isi isi post ghanna e rolla howann tein bacha lewein sein... na to logg katt ke marr jyaan haddey...Humor bagaandaa reh Manish...

    Kanthaarey..ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...menne yoh "merlion" sher sa (background mein) bhoonda pasand aa ra sei.. saale ne jadd tein paadd ke laaonga aamti aanii... Rohtak mein D Park mein gaandengey iss ne... Huddey paani bagawega yoh.. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha..Dekhey e na Singapore aale...



    Quote Originally Posted by manu14
    gulia ke 1,50,000 (dedh lakh gaam ) hariyaanna me
    ha ha ha
    kidding .....eeb chaadd maanaa jayiyo rashan paani leke
    dekh yoo neele (anil ) bethaa se kanthaare tadke tadak ,,,tukek thyawas rakhiyaa kadde aaja haade bhiddan hahahahah now

    dudee uncle namaste
    thanks for all the information ,plz put some light on gulia khap ki history also i just want to know? if u have some thing about that
    thanks a lot in advance i know aapkee pittare me jaroor hoga kooch if the thing is not relevent to the thread can pm me n tell thanks again

  11. #31
    Sangwan is also a very much international gotra. One can see them in China, Thailand and may be in few other countries. I came across Punia surname in USA also (http://www.uvm.edu/~punia/resume/).. As mentioned many times over in my history section write ups, Jats are spread all over the word and can be found in all religions and nationalities.

    RK^2
    Last edited by rkumar; June 25th, 2006 at 01:27 PM.

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by anilsangwan
    Bebe Neelam,

    menne na bera tha.. Sunna jarroor tha mere Daddy pe ki UP mein bhi kuchh gaon hai Sangwans ke... Lekin Kabhi kisi se pata nahi chala..

    aap sahi kehti ho ki abhi bhi 40 gaon ho boley jaate hain... Infact not only in Bhiwani, I heard some village in Sonepat Dist as well from former MP Sh Kishan Singh Sangwan hails.

    Aap UP ke Sangwan gaon ke baarey mein batao kuchh !!!
    Anil main bhi U.P. Sangwan's ke baare main nahin jaanti....bas ye bhi hame apni badi sister ke office main ek U.P. ke Sangwan bhaiya se pata chala hai....uss bhaiya ne hi bataya tha....phir ghar aaye to poochungi.....right now he is busy.....but he told us that there are more villages of Sangwans....lakin abhi bhi 40 hi count kiye jaate hain.....kyunki sabko nahin pata, issliye.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar
    Sangwan is also a very much international gotra. One can see them in China, Thailand and may be in few other countries. I came across Punia surname in USA also (http://www.uvm.edu/~punia/resume/).. As mentioned many times over in my history section write ups, Jats are spread all over the word and can be found in all religions and nationalities.

    RK^2
    you are right sir

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    You all are forgetting Mann. Mann is one of the most common surname in Europe, particularly Germans. One third of German names end up with Mann viz. Shermann, Gillmann, Heinmann (father of Homeopathy medicine), Dobbermann (was a german scientist who made Dobbermann-the most intelligent and ferrocious dog, during Hitler's reign)....

    Tewatia is also a big got not only in India but in Europe also where its pronounced as Teuton (Tewatian, Tewtian, Teotian, Teutian, Teuton...). Its invariably related to Jutes, Jutland....there, even all Germans, European Aryans, Jutes, Gots/Goths etc. over there are called to be derived from Teutonic race. Just google Teutonic on net and find out.

    Takhar is also too big. Its called Tokhar in Central Asia. Just google Tokaristan on net. Its comparable to Sakas (modern Sekhon, Sikarwar Jats), Huns (Modern Henga Jats of Mathura-Bharatpur, name giver to Hungary, Han(z) of Germany and China), Goths (means Jats), Getae (means Jats), Turks (Tur Jats), Aryan etc. in World History.

    No doubt Dahiya is also a very big got. Modern Romania's original name was Gets Dacia meaning Jat Dahiya, Afganistan's name was also Dahiya before Bacria, even Caspian sea was also called Dahi(ya) sea, Dadhi sea, the sea of curd as pauranic historisans sanskrited it and called it Kshir Sagar. Where lord Vishnu stays on Sheshnag.

    I must mention here that Got/Goth is a synonym of Jat in India as well as Europe. At both the places Jats were known by these two names. Jats are originator of the words Jati and Gotra in India. Where gotra is a sanskritised form of Got (Jat)only. I've seen that in no theth language of Jats in India whether Punjabi, Haryanvi, Braj, Rajasthani etc. they till today call it gotra. Whenever a Jat asks another Jat he simply asks "Tera ki got hai?", "Thara ke got se?", "Tyahro koon so got hai?" Nowhere he asks "thara ke gotra se?" This simply means that You are Jat, its ok, but which Jat (Jati) are you? Whether you are Baliyan Jat (got), Rana Jat (got), Dahiya Jat(got)....

    Every Jat goth in my opinion is very big and ancient one. Its only a matter of historical and (social) geographical knowledge. Thats why every Jat is a proud of his own got but treats others also at par and equality. Here, Jats behave unlike Rajputs where Chauhans are superior to Parmars and Gahlotes are superior to Kachhwahas etc.
    Last edited by sktewatia; June 25th, 2006 at 11:19 PM.

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    Manis Gulia Aur Harvir Gulia Ki Badli

    Dear Manis Bhai Gulia ny kon bhul sakta hae. Phir navy ka Gulia
    Bhai Potli ki to Book ban gaye. yaha jatland per bhi Gulia ky bare mae bahut kuch likh raha hae.
    Per yah history section nahi. Sari potli khol ne per yah post- thread delete ho jayegi- Ham sary ban ho jagegy.
    Dekha nahi Col Malik sahib- Machine Gun laekar seer par khade.
    Phir bhi 2 line sunely.
    Jat kaum ki adbhut gatha naman karo un hiro ko
    Timur ki Chhati mae Bhalla mara Harvir Gulia sy biro ko.
    Badli ke Desra Kaaj Ka Duniya mae Ruka rola ho
    Ch ChhotuRam Jis Gotra mae bihaya- Parnaya ho.
    Rao TulaRam- Bori- Bistar Badli mae dhar ky Bhaga ho
    1857 mae Angrejo sy Badli ki Jato ny Gahta gawaya ho
    85 Sal ky Prof Hari Singh ny ChhotuRam Dham banaho

    Arath - Majoli ki Barat mae Dharmpal ny Ghoda dodaya ho
    US Badli ki Madur yad ko Dudee kase bhul sakta ho.
    2 April ko Prof Hari Singh sy Mae Bhi Milkar Aaya ho
    Navin Gulia ny bhi Khub jan jagrati ka rooka machaya ho


    READ THE STORY OF HARVEER GULIA
    More on Yahoo Jat History group.
    .In 1398 AD Timur made a ferocious attack on Bharat (India) with 92,000 horsemen. On receiving the news of Timur's total and open looting and destruction, in Vikram Samvat 1455(1398 AD), kartick badi 5, Raja Devpala (who was born in the village of Nirpradha, District Meerut in a Jat family), who was incharge of the of the Haryana SarvKhap Panchayat, called a Mahapanchayat in the jungles in the middle of the villages of Tikri, Doghat, and Daha.The chief committee passed the following resolutions: -1) All villages would be emptied.2) The elders and women, and children would be taken to safe places3) All able-bodied men would join the army of the SarvKhap4) Th young women would also take up arms like the men.5) The army of Timur, which was advancing from Delhi to Haridwar, would be fought with Guerilla warfare, and the water in his way would be poisoned.6) 500 young horsemen would follow Timur and report his whereabouts to the SarvKhap armyThe Panchayat Army: Under the flag of the panchayat, 80,000 warrior soldiers (Mulls) and 40,000 young women joined together. These heroes also handled all the arrangements of the war materiel. From hundreds of miles around Delhi Heroic warriors came to the battlefield ready to sacrifice their lives. All the young men and women took up arms. Dharampal Dev a Jat warrior, who was 95 years old, played a great part in gathering together this army. He traveled day and night on horseback to encourage men and women and gather the army. His brother Karan Pal helped arrange money, grain, and clothing for the army.The choosing of the Supreme General, the deputy general and the other generals.In this endeavor of the SarvKhap, the hero warrior Jograj Singh Gujar was chosen Supreme General. He was of the Clan Khubar Parmar, and hailed from a village near Haridwar called Kunja. Later this Village was uprooted and destroyed by the Mughals. The clan of the Hero Jograj Singh escaped from this village and reached Lundora, Detract of Sahranpur, where they settled. Here they established the Lundora Gujar Kingdom. Jograj Singh was a celibate and renowned wrestler. He was 7 feet, 9 inches tall, and weighed 8 maunds. His daily diet was four seers of grain, 5 seers of vegetables and fruit, one seer of cows' s ghee (Clarified butter) and 20 seers of Cows milk. (Approximately: 1 seer = I kilogram, I maund + 40 seers = 40 kilograms).The general chosen from among the heroic maidens were 1) Rampiari Gujar, 2) Hardai Jat, 2) DeviKaur Rajput, 3) Chandro Brahmin, and 4) Ramdai Tyagi. All of them took a vow to lay down their lives in defence of their nation.Deputy Generals - 1) Dhula Bhangi ( Valmiki), and (2) Harbir Singh Gulia Jat, were chosen.Dhula Bhangi was a resident of the Village of Hansi, near Hissar. He was a strong and powerful brave warrior. An expert in guerilla warfare, a great raider, his weight was 53 Dharis (I dhari = 5 seer. Approx. 160 kilograms). On being chosen as Deputy general, he gave a speech, " In my life I have made many raids your giving me respect has made my blood boil. I take a vow before all the warriors, that I will spill my blood for the defense of my nation, and will not let the pure flag of the SarvKhap be lowered. I have taken part in many wars, and will sacrifice my life in this one". Having said this he took some blood from his hip, and sprinkled it at the feet of the supreme general. He then unsheathed his sword and said" This will drink the blood of the enemy and will not go back to its sheath." Hearing the speech of this heroic warrior, a wave of enthusiasm and courage ran through the army of the Panchayat, and every cried out slogans of the motherland.The second deputy general was Harbir Singh Jat, of the Gulia Clan. He was from the village Badli, district Rohtak I Haryana He was 22 years old, and weighed 53 Dharis (approx. 160 kilograms). He was strong and brave warrior,The names of the generals were 1) Gaje Singh Jat Gatwala, 2) Tuhiram Rajput, 3) Nedha Rawa, 4) Sarju Brahmin, 5) Umra Taga (Tyagi), and 6) Durjanpal Ahir.The deputy generals chosen were 1) Kundan Jat, 2) Dhari Gadariya, who was a Dhari, 3) Bhondhu Saini, 4) Hulla Nai ( barber),5) Bhana Julaha ( Harijan) 6) Aman Singh Pundir ,rajput 7) Nathu Pardar, rajput 8) Dhulla ( Dhandi) Jat, who would lead raids from Hissar, to Dadri, to Multan.9) Mamchand Gujar 10) Phalwa Kahaar.Assistant generals. 20 assistant's generals were chosen from the various jatis (castes).The hero Bard: the Eminent Scholar Poet Chandrabhutt (Bhat) as chosen as the official Bard. He wrote an eye witness account of the war with Timur.SOME EXCEPRPTS FROM THE SPEECH OF THE SUPREME GENERAL JOGRAJ SINGH.' Viroh (Heroes), reflect on the sermon given by Lord Krishna to Arjun in the Gita. For us the door t heaven (moksha) has been opened. That moksha, which the Rishi Munis achieve by doing Yoga, the hero warriors achieve by sacrificing their lives on the battlefield. Save the nation, that is- sacrifice yourselves, the world will honor you. You have chosen me leader. To my last breath I will not withdraw. I salute the Panchayat, and take oath that until my last breath I will defend the soil of Bharat. Our nation has been shaken by the crimes and attacks of Timur. Warriors arise and do not delay. Fight the enemy army and throw them out of the nation."On hearing this speech a wave of heroism ran through the assembly. 80, 000 warriors and 40,000 maiden warriors kissed their swords and took an oath, ' O General, while we breathe we will obey your orders, and sacrifice our lives for our country'.The Troops. - the Panchayat Army, spread out from Delhi, to Meerut, Muzzafarnagar, Sahranpur, and Haridwar. On reaching these places they tangled with the armies of Timur, and using Guerilla warfare, they did not them sit still. The enemy army had to escape by the route of the hills and the enemy was chased upto Ambala, and expelled out from the land of Haryana.THE BATTLE OF DELHI:-At the time that Timur was looting Delhi, and putting the population to the sword.20,000 warriors of the Panchayat army, made a surprise attack on the 52,000 strong army of Timur in the middle of the night, and killed 9,000 of them, and let their corpses be swept away in the river Yamuna. As soon as dawn came these heroic soldiers of the Panchayat returned to outside the city walls. The battle carried on like this for three days.Timur Lung got frustrated , left Delhi and advanced toward Meerut.THE BATTLE OF MEERUT: -Timur, with his numerous and powerful army, with much weaponry, advanced towards Meerut. In this land, Timur's army was given no space to breathe. The battles continued all through the day. Wherever the Army of Timur would stop for the night, the Panchayat army would attack, and uproot them. The heroic Devis (goddesses- women) would deliver food and war material to their soldiers wherever they were. The warrior maidens would attack and loot the supplies of the enemy. The 500 horsemen were doing their duty by keeping everyone together and bearing information.As supplies were not reaching them, the army of Timur started to go hungry. Whichever village came in its path would be destroyed. Becoming frustrated Timur advanced towards Haridwar.THE BATTLE OF HARIDWAR:Beyond Meerut, to Muzzafarnagar and Sahranpur, the Panchayat armies fought fiercely with Timur and did not let his army take hold (grip). The Supreme General,. the Deputy Generals and the Generals were handling their armies well. The army of Timur reached Tuglakpur- Pathrigarh, which is 5 Kos south of Haridwar. In this land the army of the Panchayat fought three major battles with the army of Timur. The Deputy Commander Harbir Singh Gulia, along with 25,000 warriors of the Panchayat army, made a fierce attack on a big group of Timur's horsemen, and a fierce battle ensued where arrows and spears were used (There over2, 000 hill archers joined the Panchayat Army. One arrow pierced Timur's hand.). Timur was in the army of horsemen. Harbir Singh Gulia charged ahead like a lion, and hit Timur on his chest with a spear, and he was about to fall under his horse, when his commander Khijra, saved him and separated him from the horse. (Timur eventually died from this wound when he reached Samarkhand). The spearmen and swordsmen of the enemy leapt on the Harbir Singh Gulia, and he fainted from the wounds he received and fell.1. At that very time, the Supreme Commander Jograj Singh Gujar, with 22,000 Mulls (warriors) attacked the enemy and killed 5000 horsemen. Jograj Singh himself with his own hands lifted the unconscious Harbir Singh and brought him to the camp. But a few hours later, the hero warrior Harbir Singh achieved martyrdom. Jograj Singh suffered a big blow from the martyrdom of the warrior.
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar
    Sangwan is also a very much international gotra. One can see them in China, Thailand and may be in few other countries. I came across Punia surname in USA also (http://www.uvm.edu/~punia/resume/).. As mentioned many times over in my history section write ups, Jats are spread all over the word and can be found in all religions and nationalities.

    RK^2

    Rajender ji

    Kalkhande ke Muzaffarnagar (West UP) ke under 5 gaon hai all arround the Shamli

    Aap khan se ho

  17. #37
    In my view prashant Choudhary is correct, Baliyan and tomar population is most. Well Khap cant be counted by villages, as in Rajasthan 10 houses can make one village. I belong to Muzzafarnagar and married in rajasthan village where there are hardly 30 houses of same family.

  18. #38
    JAT GOTRA- SOLANKI, AHLAWAT, and JOON
    Manisha ji You are right.
    There are more than 200 villages of Solanki Khap.
    But here we are only talking about biggest Gotra.
    This is not historysec- nor we writing history here.
    If I write more My post will be deelted. this thread will be close.
    I hope this thread will not close- will be transfer in History sec. soon.
    Solanki- Ahlawat & Joon are the same gotra.
    How can I forget My friend Ravi Chaudhry & Capt Dalip Singh Ahlawat Historian. His father Hav. Rai Singh and my grandfather Hav Ranjit Singh were together in 6Jat/1 Royal Jat BN- 1914 frist world war in France
    For your information I have already written the following chapter in Aadhunik Jat History
    SOLANKI GOTRA
    Ahlawat and Joon Gotras belong to that branch of Solanki,( Chalukya) which ruled
    over Kaliani and Vatapi in South India from the 5th to the 12 century
    AD. They had a staunch enemy - Raja Rajendra Chol. He attacked them
    with an army one lakh (hundred thousand) strong, during the reign of
    Raja Satish Raj Solanki and seized a major part of their Kingdom.

    In 1052 a new ruler of this dynasty came forth to redeem the old loss.
    His name was Ahumal and his titles were Sameswar I and Raj Raja. He
    attacked the Chol Kingdom with a large army, conquered it and married
    Umang Devi, the daughter of the Chol King. He made Bangi his new
    capital; this capital existed astride the Tungabhadra River. Ahumal
    died in 1068 AD. His dynasty is called Ahlawat.

    His son Sameswar II ruled upto 1176 AD. He was dethroned by his brave
    brother Bikr Manak, who crowned himself king. He took the Title Kulu
    Jang or Vikramaditya IV. He conquered a large part of South Eastern
    India and in the NorthWest upto Kashmir. (A reference to this is
    found in a book on Indian History in Hindi by Misar Bandhu and in the
    dynastic tables of the Joon and Maare of a bard of Sonepat.). Kulu
    Jang reigned upto 1227 AD.

    After his death the Solanki empire declined. The kingdom got broken
    up into pockets and eventually disintegrated.

    Two sons of Rao Gaj Singh of this Dynasty, Rao Joon and Rao Maare
    came north with their mother and their Uncle Bisaldev. Bisaldev
    married their mother.

    Bisaldev and his family settled down in the village of Nanhakhera
    (Seria) near Dighal in District of Rohtak (70 kilometers north west
    of New Delhi, in the modern state of Haryana).

    He had four sons, Olha, Ahlawat, Birmhan or Brebhan, and Pehlawat.

    Four new Gotras originated after their names and are found settled in
    30 villages around Dighal, Gochhi, (all near Rohtak).

    Todd and Tarike Gujran have recorded this event by Abdul Malik.

    There are fifteen villages of the Joon Gotra i.e. Chahochhi, Kakrola,
    Paiharheri, Khungai, Samchana, GadiKheri, Chattahra, Nuna Mazrah,
    Lowr, Desalpur, Ujarda, Anhupur, Nangla Kabit and Mani Majra.

    Source: History of the Jats - Ram Swaroop Joon, 1967

    *********
    The Solanki's were known as Chalukyas.

    They ruled, spread all the way down from the Sindh, to modern Rajasthan, Gujrat, Mahrastra, Karnataka and Andhra

    Other clans also played their leading role, -the Gangas, Kalachuris for example.


    SOLANKI KHAP.
    Old jat gotra with 28 villages in Mathura District. Near Fatahpur Sikri in Agra Dist famous villages Baroda, Kagarol, Mithakur. Ch Phul Singh Freedom fighter of Baroda village and his sister Champawati Freedom Fighter ex-MLA UP.

    JHADSA- PALAM KHAP ALSO CALLED SOLANKI PAAL WITH 365 VILLAGES BUT THIS ALSO INCLUDE SEHRAWAT- KATARIA GOTRAS AND SOME AHIR_YADVA VILLAGES. CH BHAKTAWAR SINGH OF JHADSA VILLAGE WAS A FREEDOM FIGHTER IN 1857 WAR AND WAS HANGED BY BRITISH.

    SOURCE- AADHUNIK JATHISTORY- DHARMPAL SINGH DUDEE
    _________________
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  19. #39
    respected members, ram ram
    this is balraj sejwal from lado sarai(delhi), as we talked abt gotras , can anybody know about sejwal gotra, there is only 2 villages(where the all villagers are sejwal) and 3-4 villages(where 3-4 jat gotras) in delhi, i heard from my elders that previously we were sehjwal and we are from rajasthan, we attacked on delhi under king surajmal and settle here. the name of the village lado sarai(where qutab minar is), is on the name of laad singh sehjwal (who came from rajasthan) and another village is adhchini (near lado sarai).

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by mukul_baliyan
    Rajender ji

    Kalkhande ke Muzaffarnagar (West UP) ke under 5 gaon hai all arround the Shamli

    Aap khan se ho
    Baliyan Sahab,

    I belong to one of those five villages only. My village is Simbhalka, the first village on Shamli-Budhana Road. There are few villages in Haryana also. Also I came across some in MP and trying to find out the details from Burdak Sahab. If big is powerful then small has to be unique and beautiful I suppose...LOL...So we are a beautiful Gotra...LOL

    RK^2

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