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    Thumbs up Inside Story "indian Army" Incident In Kolkata On The New Years Eve

    My following views mirror yours for the most part. However no media
    outlet would publish / include my contrarian opinion however hard I tried! I
    would appreicate if you would...

    It is indeed regrettable that the top Netas - Pradhan Mantriji and
    Raksha Mantriji included - have their Pugdis and Lungis tied into a collective
    knot over the "gross indiscipline" of the Army, relying solely on the
    version of the Kolkata cops.

    The media, as always, have declared the Army officers GUILTY as
    charged. They have also pre-empted the need to have a victim, or even her statement -and have gone ahead and declared the Army jawans GUILTY anyway. So the Neta-Babu-Patrakar-Pandu Chowkidaar axis plays Prosecutor, Judge, Jury and Executioner.

    After everyone from the PM, the defence minister, External Affairs
    minister, and the PMO, rushed to personally call and assure the WB Chief Minister that the GUILTY Army officers and jawans would be given exemplary punishment, the cops' story has begun to unravel.

    By the way, when was the last time anyone heard of the PM personally
    rushing to inquire about common men and women who are tortured, even killed, by police high handedness?

    Turns out that Park Street Cops were working overtime on New Years Eve
    to nab random members of the public, slapping them and locking them up on
    trumped up charges of drunkenness, eve teasing or hooliganism and
    extorting money from them. One couple has also registered a complaint with the NHRC to the effect (the husband was picked up by the park Street Cops as he and his wife were crossing the road. When he asked to know his offence, he was slapped by the cop, who took him to his superior who declared, 'You are a drunkard', slapped him some more, and ordered that he be locked up.) Just so happened that the police snared the wrong fish - the Army Officers - and promptly ended up getting paid in their own coin - by being placed at the receiving end of a (well deserved) beating.

    The media immediately jumped on the "casting aspersions" bandwagon and
    sullied the Army. As the truth slowly begins to emerge - and the usual
    shenanigans of Indian cops wear thin - we see that there is no woman
    that complained about being teased or groped.

    Four bouncers of this hotel thrashed an Army Major because he demanded
    his meal for a valid coupon he held. They then put him in a taxi and
    brought him to Park Street cops. Hafta happy cops who have good 'relations' with this hotel dutifully locked up the officer - inspite of him informing them of his identity. 'No one tells us what we are supposed to do here', so saying the cops beat up the Major before locking him.

    This is a clear violation of the law - but pandu chowkidars obviously
    have no clue about the Army Act passed by the Parliament. Soon a captain
    reaches the police station to reason with the Pandus to free his superior
    officer. 'Dont tell us what we are supposed to do here' so saying they lock up the Captain as well and for good measure book him for guess what? 'Crossing the road at the wrong place'! Wow, that is so cute. Isnt it?

    Unfortunately for the cops, the Captain had called his Commanding
    Officer on his cell before he was locked up. The Commanding Officer (CO) of the 3 Madras regiment (Madras regiment is the oldest Regiment in the Indian Army - a small trivia for you - inconsequential to the
    case) comes with soldiers of his unit - soldiers that have fought with,
    and under the leadership of, these officers for 5 years in Siachen and
    Kashmir and have lost some of their men there - witness the badly beaten Major and Captain.

    The CO, a Lt. Colonel, gets the cop to open the lockup, and as the
    Major steps out the jawans get to see the real extent of the beatings handed to their officer. To make matters worse the cop speaks rough and insults the Major in the presence of his jawans. The 3 Madras jawans known to give their life to rescue their own from the enemey, fly into blind rage and all hell breaks loose. Their CO, the Lt Colonel restores order and disperses them,and himself waits for senior Police Officers to arrive. The cops immediately call the press, and the print and electronic media is full of stories about 'Yet another case of gross indiscipline in the Army'.

    The Prime Minister, Defence Minister and External Affairs minister
    expresstheir unhappiness at the 'indiscipline of the GUILTY Army officers' and call the West Bengal CM to offer full support! The Army refuses to hand over their own. The police chief is angry but when made to read and
    understand the letter of the law by the Army authorities, comes around. Now the cops end up looking like fools, because they obviously never went to the scene of the alleged eve teasing to investigate, or even bothered to take the statement of the 'victim' - they simply went by the words of the
    bouncers of Park Hotel.

    The cops are now looking desperately for 'witnesses', and not being
    able to produce any, who do they come up with? The 4 bouncers themselves of course!!! Now they - the bouncers - claim that the 4 of them were beaten bad by the Major! So I guess these 4 were the eves
    that the Major teased. The cops now claim that they of course never
    knew that these were army officers - else they would have followed the law! The truth will slowly emerge and certainly the situation ended up much
    worse than it should have been. Neither party should be blamed or exonerated tillthe final picture is out. What stuns me is the alacrity with which the PM,defence minister and External affairs Minister of this country reacted to the 'shameful guilt of army officers' without so much as bothering to ascertain basic facts.

    1. The Army officers indicted in Tehelka scam are serving prison time -
    after being court martialed by the Army. What about the bureacrats
    involved? Any guesses? Of course absolutely nothing happens to them.

    2. The army officer accused in the Kashmir molestation case has been
    tried by the army, punished and discharged from service. What about the cop -the SHO - who was also involved? You guessed right. Even an FIR has not been filed. So much for the indiscipline of the Army and the efficiency of the morally upright cops / neta / babu axis.

    3. Why do Kolkata citizens complain that when ever riotous situations
    erupt in Kolkata the brave cops suddenly become incommunicado - and dont take any phone calls? Because when required to muster courage and discipline they do exactly what they did when confronted by jawans of 3 Madras Regiment - hide under their desks. Finally to control rioting mobs Neta / Babus requisition the 'indisciplined' Army and the jawans face up to the marauding mobs andbring things under control.

    4. Where is the PMO and PM when widows of Kargil martyrs go running
    from pillar to post begging for the Gas stations that a grateful nation
    promised 8 years ago? Some of the widows have had to go on hunger strike, others threatened suicide. Of course the 'disciplined'
    bureacrats and ethical politicians hide behind various fig leaves like
    'land acquisition problems' and 'procedural delays'. When it is time for
    these 'indisciplined and GUILTY' army officers and Jawans to lay down their
    lives there is never any 'procedural delay'.

    5. Why doesn't the PMO, PM and Raksha Mantri ever commiserate with, and get so agitated over, long pending legitimate grievances of Armed Forces
    personnel regarding pay, pension, equipment, housing etc.? Did you hear
    of the PM and PMO's displeasure at the Army chief's refusal to unilaterally withdraw Indian troops from Siachen as demanded by Pakistan as a "Confidence building meausure"? As a last resort the
    Indian Army chief requested the Netas - Defence Minister and PM - to bear down on Pakistan to jointly certify / delienate on maps the Indian positions
    prior to getting Indian soldiers to stand down. Neither the Indian PM, nor
    the Pakistani "democratic" dictator ("Ataturk" wannabe and infamous Kargil
    architect) are happy with the Indian Army. Long story short, the army
    chief's insistence on the map has rained on the PM's expected
    "solution" to the Kashmir issue in addition to deferring / cancelling his proposed trip to Pakistan. For his efforts the Army Chief has incurred the displeasure of the External Affairs Mantri Mahodayji, and an informal gag on holding press conferences.

    This is what the Neta / Babu nexus is upto. Of the police and trigger
    happy rent-a-cause Patrakar the lesser said the better.

    By the way, did the cops lock KPS Gill up and beat him even after he
    confessed to groping / misbehaving with a woman?

    Just a little crumb for thought - Now that the Chowkidaar-Neta-Babu
    axis have been educated on the provisions of the Army, Navy and Airforce
    Acts that disallow Pandu chowkidaar to arrest an Army Major, Lt Colonel or
    General (except on charges of Rape, Murder or culpable homicide), it wont be long before they work in tandem to amend these provisions through an Act of Parliament. Should that take long, pandu chowkidaars could now trump up charges of Rape, Murder, Culpable homicide against defence personnel including Senior Officers and promptly lock them up.

    It is sad that when foreign Armies like the US Army, Canadian Army and
    Australian Army are sending their Army officers and soldiers to be
    trained in specialised warfare Schools of the Indian Army, fellow Indians -
    Pradhan Mantri Mahodayji, Raksha Mantri Mahodayji and
    External Affairs Mantri Mahodayji included - publicly berate Army
    Officers and Jawans before even waiting for the facts to emerge.

    The Indian Public considers it democracy. Plain and simple. Right or
    wrong, between the Armed Forces and Police, my Pandu Chowkidaar is always right.Never the Armed Forces.

    For all of Aam Janta's fawning obsequiousness, how does the
    Neta-Babu-Patrakar-Pandu nexus regard the common man? Exactly how the white masters regarded slave Uncle Tom and his ilk: "Bigger the fool, better
    the slave."
    Last edited by abhay; February 5th, 2007 at 01:43 AM. Reason: BETTER LAYOUT
    Abhay Singh.

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    What a shame. I have a personal connection with 3 Madras. My uncle is from 3 Madras. I have been to their different postings across India. I cannot differnetiate 3 Madras from other regiments on the grounds of discipline or commitment. But, just like any other fauji, 3 Madras men have always been gem of people.

    As I have always said, the basic flaw with democracy is that there is always a next election to bother about. Netas do what gets them the maximum political mileage. When Kargil happened they went on a charity spree declarin petrol pumps and gas agencies for widows and families of the martyred. When the Kolkata incident happened, they went on a punishment spree to "discipline the so-called outlaw faujis." Netas cannot be trusted. They blow in the direction of the wind.

    This is the reason I am against the idea of the military being a subject of the ruling elite of the country. If we have a military dictatorship atleast we wont have an abusive police force.MOst of the rest what the netas claim to be doing can be achieved by the market system.

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    Dear Mr Abhay,

    Your post has brought out an important issue, and , i guess must have been based on some reserch, which u must have undertaken. There is no doubt about the need to market the media atrocities and put it upto peoples eyes and ears; the real stroy.
    To some extent even army needs to relook at their media and PR agency to see to it that they are properly and adequately represented.

    Regards,

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