nathu ram godse was wrong or we ?

[ssindhu]

here in the UN mission in ethopia, whenever people ask me which country i come from , i say INDIA, they say,, ooohh ,, mahatama gandhi, i say yes,, they say ,aah ,great man. and here we have representatives from all african countaries most latin american countaries, some european countaries ,china, an some asian countaries.
thier unanimous verdict on gandhi is ---- ;a very great man'

and here in our own country, GANDHIJI
ke naam pe kisse ke aag bal ja se, koi nafrat ki aag me ji ra se.
in our library we have biography,s of all indian ,an most world leaders , gandhiji,s biography is the most read and the only indian leader read by the international staff here.
deviyo aur sajano , he is the face of our great countary outside. kuch toh kuch toh , ijjat baksho is mahan atma ko.

aur doosri aur issi JL pe hum bade gorav is kahte hain ki mallika sharawat jat se. ib is baat ko lekar koi mat chipat jayo mere.

ha ha. gud one rohit. mallika sehrawat...infact i m so ashamed of her tht i feel sorry whn i tell ppl i m frm rohtak n dey say of mallika sehrawat's place...

n one mor thing...patel's case is much talked abut here. gandhi was farsighted in choosing nehru over patel. no doubt patel was a great fellow bt he cudnt b a great leader. u read any management book or very own philip kotler--no aggressive fellow cn make gud leader. n patel n shastri were d most turbulent leaders of dose times...u know wat cud hav been d scene helding reigns in hands of patel? just look at bush's aggression...no hot-headed fellow is apt 2 b leader. leadership commands 2 much humility n calmness of mind to lead a billion mass...indira gandhi was d best primeminister if we look at from foreign policies point of view after nehru, bt dnt we know one emergency thing caused what havocs to her tenure n india's image?

[ssindhu]

good copy paste work satendra!!!!!!!!!

[vivekdh]

fer to manne PM banna do desh kaa
mera PM (project manager) kaya kare hai ki main kadde tension nahi leta chahe kitna hi jaroori kaam ho :D:D

]...no hot-headed fellow is apt 2 b leader. leadership commands 2 much humility n calmness of mind to lead a billion mass...[/COLOR]

[prashantacmet]

such a dual behaviour ....ppl are ashamed of mallika sehrawat but if smone says abt gandhi having two girls on eah side....it's termed as narrow mindness.................jats feeling ashamed on account of Mallika are really narrow minded and r not able to digest the modernisation of jats....go and hide yrself in veils........... just like a conventional bhartiya naari................:p

[ssindhu]

in d context of bhagat singh's heroism n gandhi's schematic agitation against britons, i wud like 2 ask one thing which mode is heroic/foolish? to fight a lion withut gun as bhagat singh did (he offered his life so readily in jail) or kill d lion with invisible gun as gandhi did (gandhi liberated nt only india slow poisoning britishers, rather he set d bristish colonisation sun all over d world). it's better to fight 4 a short period n wash hands off ur life (bhagat) or fight in long run 2 diminish d evil 4ever withut loosing ur life (gandhi) n yet foster s fear tht only wid one stick he had a terror in d minds of bristishers which bhagat's guns cudnt?

well thts d difference in immature n mature, aatma n mahatma (PS: i respect bhagat from core of heart bt d mode of stuggle was foolish)

[prashantacmet]

aaj tak kissi ke bhagat singh ne galat kahan ki himmat na hui.......... haade jatland pe ghanne simjhdaar maanas deekhe.................

[ssindhu]

poor interpretation n relevance.gandhi nvr did strip dancing like tht slut...n modernisation dsnt mean dt one shud dance nude...modernisation is open up souls n minds nt shirt buttons of bosom

[ssindhu]

fer to manne PM banna do desh kaa
mera PM (project manager) kaya kare hai ki main kadde tension nahi leta chahe kitna hi jaroori kaam ho :D:D

tension na lene aur calmness mae difference hai bhai. ur connotations of words is 2 poor raje

[vivekdh]

bhagat singh gave example to all inidans at that time bcs har aadmi bina kuch kiye gandhi ke piche piche chale jaa raha tha. apko sayad ye bhi pata hoga ki bhagat singh khud gandhi kaa bahut bada bhagat tha bachpan me.jab uske sochne ki sakti badi to usne apna rasta chuna.

agar koi ye kahe ki sirf gandhi ne aajadi dilayi to main samjta hu uss se bada bevkoof koi nahi hai
aangrejon ko jab laga ki ab wo yahan raaj nahi ker sakte kyonki unki apni family apne log wahan safe nahi hai ,tab gandhi kaa pressure kaam aaya.aaj tak koi bhi kranti bina khoon ke nahi aayi

oe jo aap example de rahe ho lion kaa uss per muje hansi aa rahi hai.1 baar dobara pad lo sayad apko bhi hansi aaye ki kya example hai ye

in d context of bhagat singh's heroism n gandhi's schematic agitation against britons, i wud like 2 ask one thing which mode is heroic/foolish? to fight a lion withut gun as bhagat singh did (he offered his life so readily in jail) or kill d lion with invisible gun as gandhi did (gandhi liberated nt only india slow poisoning britishers, rather he set d bristish colonisation sun all over d world). it's better to fight 4 a short period n wash hands off ur life (bhagat) or fight in long run 2 diminish d evil 4ever withut loosing ur life (gandhi) n yet foster s fear tht only wid one stick he had a terror in d minds of bristishers which bhagat's guns cudnt?

well thts d difference in immature n mature, aatma n mahatma (PS: i respect bhagat from core of heart bt d mode of stuggle was foolish)

[prashantacmet]

why we jats mess the professional things with ego/prestige....? this thing is pushing us backwards frm decades........just come out of this silly,poor and orthodox thinking...

[ssindhu]

bhagat singh gave example to all inidans at that time bcs har aadmi bina kuch kiye gandhi ke piche piche chale jaa raha tha. apko sayad ye bhi pata hoga ki bhagat singh khud gandhi kaa bahut bada bhagat tha bachpan me.jab uske sochne ki sakti badi to usne apna rasta chuna.

agar koi ye kahe ki sirf gandhi ne aajadi dilayi to main samjta hu uss se bada bevkoof koi nahi hai
aangrejon ko jab laga ki ab wo yahan raaj nahi ker sakte kyonki unki apni family apne log wahan safe nahi hai ,tab gandhi kaa pressure kaam aaya.aaj tak koi bhi kranti bina khoon ke nahi aayi

oe jo aap example de rahe ho lion kaa uss per muje hansi aa rahi hai.1 baar dobara pad lo sayad apko bhi hansi aaye ki kya example hai ye

nahi viv mujhe hassi nahi aayi coz my interpretation faculties wrk well. i nvr said only gandhi led us to freedom. my quey was only on mode of struggle...pehla samjha kar bhai ki point kya hai...u blatantly jump to reply...thts 2 irrelevant

[vivekdh]

interpretation faculties ki to apne suru te hi issi tissi ker di main nu puchu tha ke gandhi mahatma kyon ? agar wo aajadi ki jang kaa sirf 1 hissa tha to waise to bahut the uski soch ko accha kyon kaha jata hai.uske karan kya log nahi marre jabki usse khabi karonch tak nahi aayi.

nahi viv mujhe hassi nahi aayi coz my interpretation faculties wrk well. i nvr said only gandhi led us to freedom. my quey was only on mode of struggle...pehla samjha kar bhai ki point kya hai...u blatantly jump to reply...thts 2 irrelevant

[ssindhu]

interpretation faculties ki to apne suru te hi issi tissi ker di main nu puchu tha ke gandhi mahatma kyon ? agar wo aajadi ki jang kaa sirf 1 hissa tha to waise to bahut the uski soch ko accha kyon kaha jata hai.uske karan kya log nahi marre jabki usse khabi karonch tak nahi aayi.

y d hell u folks limitise gandhi only 2 freedom struggle. he was loved all ovr d world 4 lot many reasons besides freedom thing...he is mor popular 4 his mode of tackling things and as a simple person

[vivekdh]

yahi to iss tagge me pucha hai maine ki aisa kya mode of tackling things tha ki wo mahtma ban gaya itne hazar log marva ke?

y d hell u folks limitise gandhi only 2 freedom struggle. he was loved all ovr d world 4 lot many reasons besides freedom thing...he is mor popular 4 his mode of tackling things and as a simple person

[VPannu]

Neither I am a Gandhivaadi, nor a follower of his principles.
But still I express my sincere gratitude that he fought for our freedom(his own way) and I was born in a free India. Controversies are always there with (in)famous people. There was something in Gandhi thats why he is brandished
on our currency bills. Why this Nathu isnt there? Why there are streets and chowks after his name in countries abroad, why not after Nathu? He might have done what Ramlal Hooda had said but there is no perfect world and no perfect human being. I cant understand how can people project Nathu with a website and all that S***? He is a killer afterall.Remember maarne waale se bachaane wala bada hota hai.

[sunitahooda]

:oExactly Pannu....this is what i tell my friends that we've been so lucky not to face any freedom movement or partition crisis and never been in floods/volcano/earthquake/famine. Sirf aazaadi ke uppar bani8 huyi movies dekh kar hi mere rangttey khadey ho jate hian to agar uss movement ka part hoti to kya hota....we can easily blame freedom fighters for having a shallow character....but should be fair to some extent....everyone does mistakes and Gandhi was no Novice to it....then what will we gain by seeing 2 ladies by his sides? Why worship Shri Krishna having surrounded by Gopis?

Neither I am a Gandhivaadi, nor a follower of his principles.
But still I express my sincere gratitude that he fought for our freedom(his own way) and I was born in a free India. Controversies are always there with (in)famous people. There was something in Gandhi thats why he is brandished
on our currency bills. Why this Nathu isnt there? Why there are streets and chowks after his name in countries abroad, why not after Nathu? He might have done what Ramlal Hooda had said but there is no perfect world and no perfect human being. I cant understand how can people project Nathu with a website and all that S***? He is a killer afterall.Remember maarne waale se bachaane wala bada hota hai.

[ssindhu]

Neither I am a Gandhivaadi, nor a follower of his principles.
But still I express my sincere gratitude that he fought for our freedom(his own way) and I was born in a free India. Controversies are always there with (in)famous people. There was something in Gandhi thats why he is brandished
on our currency bills. Why this Nathu isnt there? Why there are streets and chowks after his name in countries abroad, why not after Nathu? He might have done what Ramlal Hooda had said but there is no perfect world and no perfect human being. I cant understand how can people project Nathu with a website and all that S***? He is a killer afterall.Remember maarne waale se bachaane wala bada hota hai.

u want standing ovation 4 dis writing panne. ha ha. lo i giv u applause

[ssindhu]

:oExactly Pannu....this is what i tell my friends that we've been so lucky not to face any freedom movement or partition crisis and never been in floods/volcano/earthquake/famine. Sirf aazaadi ke uppar bani8 huyi movies dekh kar hi mere rangttey khadey ho jate hian to agar uss movement ka part hoti to kya hota....we can easily blame freedom fighters for having a shallow character....but should be fair to some extent....everyone does mistakes and Gandhi was no Novice to it....then what will we gain by seeing 2 ladies by his sides? Why worship Shri Krishna having surrounded by Gopis?

gopis...kilkiiii. na jiji wo te mallika sehrawat ki ancestors thi........kilkiiiiiiiiii

[VPannu]

u want standing ovation 4 dis writing panne. ha ha. lo i giv u applause

haha, na na khade mat hovo. I accept it wholeheartedly.

Exactly Pannu..........by Gopis?

hmm, katti nyu ki nyu. Bichaara buddhla ekla chaalya tha dogga thaa ke ne Sabarmati te Dandi , ar kisliye? Sirf nooonn taahi. saari umar ughaaadi kadd raakhi. itney nuggrre kaise ho sakte hain hum?
On his 75th anniversary Sonia Gandhi and MKGandhi's were again trying to do the same but couldnt. We got this freedom in legacy if we had to fight for it we might still have been ruled by the English:o
PS: Seema ji , Gopi te aapne jatni bana di, kimme or kah dyo ne:p

[rohit62]

seema ,you are absolutly right on sardar patel , he was a good home minister and an good only for home minister,,prime ministership is a different ball game all together , where one has to project his country in an international arena,which is more difficult then ordering a police action,
a general can win a war but he cant run the country,bush is a good example, and look at musharaf now,
an it pains me when JATLANDERS defend mallika saying she,s earned name an fame , aur jatoo ka naam roshan kar diya,, aise roshani nahi chaiye humko

ha ha. gud one rohit. mallika sehrawat...infact i m so ashamed of her tht i feel sorry whn i tell ppl i m frm rohtak n dey say of mallika sehrawat's place...

n one mor thing...patel's case is much talked abut here. gandhi was farsighted in choosing nehru over patel. no doubt patel was a great fellow bt he cudnt b a great leader. u read any management book or very own philip kotler--no aggressive fellow cn make gud leader. n patel n shastri were d most turbulent leaders of dose times...u know wat cud hav been d scene helding reigns in hands of patel? just look at bush's aggression...no hot-headed fellow is apt 2 b leader. leadership commands 2 much humility n calmness of mind to lead a billion mass...indira gandhi was d best primeminister if we look at from foreign policies point of view after nehru, bt dnt we know one emergency thing caused what havocs to her tenure n india's image?