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  1. #21
    hahaahhaahah bhai tu laughter challenge me chala hi ja....vo siddhu haas haas mar jaaga
    Quote Originally Posted by keshavdahiya View Post
    ooh comeon kaklu u know it quite well why and how you got rid of this habit.........jibb kaki nei aapke saare pajame retire karr diye.....jinme aapne biddi er ciggiz pii-pii ke ghattu karr diye the to aaaapke paass Raam-lubhaya ke kache bach ge the....and u cud not afford to go out on walk with your dog in those kachas.....isnt it so ???

    so here jlanders........one more of a few reasons how u can get rid of smoking.....deb dahiya ki tarha pajame mein ghattu hojayenge
    " If the loser keeps his smile........
    Then the winner will loose the thrill of the victory.......
    Attitude make the difference......"

  2. #22
    @ Ritu: Nice idea for MEN who are married..Emotional Blackmail really works.:rock It sounds very efficient tools to tame married men.

    by the way married man is not an animal which can be tamed.a father quit for his son.ask all those who quit and are married.none of them might have done it for their spouses.
    " If the loser keeps his smile........
    Then the winner will loose the thrill of the victory.......
    Attitude make the difference......"

  3. #23

    Kamilllaaa ke liye............

    Samar singh tu bhi kamiliiiiiiiaaaaaa khaatirrr chhod de... eh mer-yaar... dradh sankalp honaa chaahiye kisse bhi kaam khaattirr... its very easy to do that after that...........Dedication is key to do anything thing.. so Quit smoking is same........

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    @Keshav: Keshav, do you mean I do Smoke.?


    @Keshav: Bhai pajjame/kacche chek karne kaise pahunch gaye ya sirf wild imagination? ,ya khud ka experience ? ..:thappad:eek: Sharm ki koi baat nahi hai bata do
    Bhai Samar Singh ji...pehli baat to manne ritu jii ko gyaat karwaya tha ki kahin woh yunn to nahi samajh rahi ki aap smokte ho.......I didnt anywhere mentioned about you being a smoker or "NOT"....er manne karna bhi ke hai ???

    Dusrri baat...Deb dahiya ji ke pajamme ki khabber tei bhai kayi akhbaar mein bhi aa rehi sei :eek:.....balkiii iib tei unke pajamme pei shayd koi kitaab bhi likkhe sei....:p
    mannei to apna kacha/pjama check karann ka-e time konya......er jei manne apne kaklu ki checking karr bhi li to sharam ki ke baat sei :D :p......E marre yaar Samar kisssi baat karre hai........hehehehehe
    Keshav Dahiya
    www.dahiya.us



  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by ritu View Post
    hahaahhaahah bhai tu laughter challenge me chala hi ja....vo siddhu haas haas mar jaaga
    aaap to piche hi padd gayi mere :D.....iisii to laughter aaali baat bhi na ki thi mannei.....er Sidhu Sardaar milya hansan hasaaan nei.....aadei bhi to kayi log yawa haanstte rehwei sein saari haan......kyun ?? :p
    waise getting back to the smoking topic......its strange that no Sikh is heard of smoking......its a matter of control as to what habits we inculcate and how we drive ourself in life....then let it be smoking or any other vice.....it takes pain to lead a disciplined life......
    Keshav Dahiya
    www.dahiya.us



  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    @ Ritu: Nice idea for MEN who are married..Emotional Blackmail really works.:rock It sounds very efficient tools to tame married men.

    @Keshav: Keshav, do you mean I do Smoke.?

    @Manoj: Very good..Spread this around in your circle..Jaise mandir mein nem thuwate hain waise it works as well.:D Aur dobara pakda jaye to ? Pani pani kar do guilt ki balti bhar ke phenk do....Apne aap line per :p

    @ Braham ji: I'm happy. :D


    @YS: Very informative sir...


    @Neelam: Gaana to ek aur accha hai..Mai Fikar ko dhume mein udata chala gaya.....Mai zindagi ka saath nibhata chala gaya...Stressbuster....for a while...Marte to Non Smoker pujari bhi hain....Its unfair to judge smokers as sinners...

    @Vineeta: Yes fruits.....Cheeku is best substitute.


    @Rajeev: Sir..World will not defintely come to an end but the bill of lung specialist would give sleepless nights and a thought of admitting there.

    @ Pragya : Very inspiring story.. Govt yahi will power dikha de to ye thread hi na chale kabhi...Thats another point..But personaly WILL power is the key for anything n esp for this addiction...

    We found two good examples of quitting this habbit as inspiration,

    Deshwal and Dahiya Sir.....

    Its nice both of you quit it Sirs, but how did you control the urge.? and initially how much time you required to come out of withdrawal...?
    Any medication?
    Just family n Friends Support?

    How do you feel now?

    Deshwal Sir Surely you have gained a decent amount of weight after quitting.

    @Keshav: Bhai pajjame/kacche chek karne kaise pahunch gaye ya sirf wild imagination? ,ya khud ka experience ? ..:thappad:eek: Sharm ki koi baat nahi hai bata do

    samar pehle to yeh batao are u for smokin or u r against smoking.......tumne to dono hi sides ke supportin views de diye.....
    Good life starts when u stop wanting a better one !!!! :D

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by bhavnasingh20 View Post
    samar pehle to yeh batao are u for smokin or u r against smoking.......tumne to dono hi sides ke supportin views de diye.....
    Bhavna JI I'm against smoking for sure but I'm also against abandoning of Smokers.:D

    Do you also have any such experience? if yes how did you motivate/demotivate that person/friend?

    It may be an add on to the confidence of some.
    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by bhavnasingh20 View Post
    samar pehle to yeh batao are u for smokin or u r against smoking.......tumne to dono hi sides ke supportin views de diye.....
    hahaha....ye dal badlu insaan hai....kabhi yahan to kabhi wahan

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    hahaha....ye dal badlu insaan hai....kabhi yahan to kabhi wahan
    @Neelam JI : , ye kuch jyada nahi ho gaya? Hmmm Chaliye koi baat nahi...Improve your understanding with a loud laugh .

    More on smoking
    ..
    ..According to BestSyndication.com , "Women who smoked one to 10 cigarettes while they were pregnant had a 29% greater risk of having a child with a finger or toe deformity. As the number of cigarettes increases so did the risk. Women that smoked 11 to 20 cigarettes per day increased their chances to 38%. Smoking more than 20 cigarettes per day raised the risk by 78%."

    Ladies, if you're pregnant and still smoking, do your unborn child a favor and stop smoking TODAY! It's bad enough you're hurting yourself, but don't subject your unborn child to years and years of ridicule and shame due to birth defects caused by your reckless behavior...

    according to DentalGentleCare.com, "smoking increases the risk and severity of gum recession and gum disease leading to tooth and bone loss. Tooth loss in smokers occurs at a rate of 2.9 teeth every 10 years for men and 1.5 teeth every 10 years for women (two times the rate of tooth loss in nonsmokers).

    If you start smoking at age 18 and smoke a pack a day, you could lose four to five teeth by the time you are 35!"


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    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

  10. #30

    Question

    Samar bhai i don't think we need to give any instances or cases which can inspire people to quit this habbit of smoking !

    @ Topic...We all r educated enough to see and realise the right & the wrong habbits !

    I read it somewhr that smoking is harmful for each and every organ of the body.
    Or in simple words, we can say that smokers are near death stage.

    Nicotine is a highly addictive drug found in tobacco. The intake of this drug stops your body growth and results in causing various diseases.
    Smoking results in causing the following :
    ulcer
    stroke
    mouth and throat cancer
    larynx cancer
    various heart diseases
    pulmonary disease
    bladder and cervical cancer.... kum lag rahi hain to r bhi hai ....

    I don't understand why people r causing problems not only to themselves but to others also ....thru passive smoking !!
    Give up this habbit ..cz this world is a beautiful place...if u really want to live... otherwise also stop playing wid others life ...
    Smoking should be a crime in public places
    Regards,
    Vineeta Kadian

  11. #31
    Samar showing serious concerns for ladies being addicted to smoking....hehe.....i don't feel ki Jat Women are falling in any such bad trap :D.....kyun lady members ?????.....are you????.....atleast m not :D

    now that's all in the lighter mode (which i learnt from some smart characters here, baat bhi kah jaao aur lighter note/mode add karke baat ko wahin dafna do....koi kuch nahin kah sakta....:D)

    anyways, if one really wanna quit this bad habit, then here's a little suggestion if one like it...
    • sip apple juice on daily basis (apple juice being the potent de-motivator in against of bad addictions)
    • don't quit it immediately (i think this can be understood by anybody, kyunki adat pakadna asaan hai lekin chhodna kaafi mushkil)
    • use chewing-gum whenever u feel the desire for it
    • stress can be best relieved from YOGA/other exercise work-outs
    Regards
    Neelam

  12. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    Samar showing serious concerns for ladies being addicted to smoking....hehe.....i don't feel ki Jat Women are falling in any such bad trap :D.....kyun lady members ?????.....are you????.....atleast m not :D
    झूठ बोल रहीं हैं आप... हमारी बूढियाओं को देखा है क्या ? सारे दिन चिलम फूंकती हैं... और किन लेडीज की बात कर रहीं हैं आप, बुढापे में ये सब यही करेंगी चाहे वो australia में हों या फिर UK में. :p:rock:D:rock:p
    ! ... be BOLD in what you stand for !
    !! ... i've the simplest tastes, i'm always satisfied with the best !!
    !!! ... be yourself, everyone else is already taken !!!

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by brahmtewatia View Post
    झूठ बोल रहीं हैं आप... हमारी बूढियाओं को देखा है क्या ? सारे दिन चिलम फूंकती हैं... और किन लेडीज की बात कर रहीं हैं आप, बुढापे में ये सब यही करेंगी चाहे वो australia में हों या फिर UK में. :p:rock:D:rock:p

    yo de maaryaaaaaaa .. huhuhahahaha

  14. #34

    nothing is good - nothing is bad !

    Quote Originally Posted by vineetakadian View Post
    Samar bhai i don't think we need to give any instances or cases which can inspire people to quit this habbit of smoking !

    @ Topic...We all r educated enough to see and realise the right & the wrong habbits !

    I read it somewhr that smoking is harmful for each and every organ of the body.
    Or in simple words, we can say that smokers are near death stage.

    Nicotine is a highly addictive drug found in tobacco. The intake of this drug stops your body growth and results in causing various diseases.
    Smoking results in causing the following :
    ulcer
    stroke
    mouth and throat cancer
    larynx cancer
    various heart diseases
    pulmonary disease
    bladder and cervical cancer.... kum lag rahi hain to r bhi hai ....

    I don't understand why people r causing problems not only to themselves but to others also ....thru passive smoking !!
    Give up this habbit ..cz this world is a beautiful place...if u really want to live... otherwise also stop playing wid others life ...
    Smoking should be a crime in public places

    WAY too much has been said about the 'ill-effects' of smoking, what it could 'do' to you and other crap. The effects of smoking have been greatly exaggerated, and it's us smokers who have to face the public sentiment on this.


    Anyways, what is the big deal if I smoke? People will often come up to me and tell me, "Smoking can kill you, you know?" I promptly reply with some smartass remark like "Really? THANK you for telling me!" Yeah, Sherlocks. I'm too stupid and illiterate to read the warning on the pack, let alone understand it. I have this feeling that not smoking actually makes people so stupid, they don't realize that smokers already know what they're doing to their bodies. Hey, I know my lungs have taken on a distinct coloration of black, with pink patches here and there. I know that I'll be hacking up blood in my cough, a couple years from now. Who gives a damn?

    I have a hectic and inundated life, and I'd like to take a break from it all to enjoy the relief that the cigarette can bring to me. The last thing I need is for yet another self-appointed Samaritan coming near me to tell me what I'm doing to my body, or why they object to me puffing around. It's not like I'm going up to them and telling them, "Excuse me, sir, could you please go elsewhere, you're in my smoking space." I'd really love to do that though, I don't think that they're even worthy of breathing my 2nd hand smoke.

    How many of you readers smoke? How many of you are ferverent anti-smoking lobbyists? What IS your problem with smokers? Till date, I haven't seen a good answer for that last question.

    I've made a list of 20 points I'd like to make for the case of smoking. If anyone can, what is the case against smoking/second-hand smoking?

    Here's my spit:

    1. Increases concentration.
    2. People often go with the general sentiment on things like these, most of what you hear is hogwash. Cases of cancer are linked with smoking, but it's not proof. Only 1 in 3 of us will get lung cancer. (By "us" I also include non smokers).
    3. Smokers are a persecuted lot, since this habit has been banned from workplaces, restaurants, buses, subways and planes. You don't think they'd outlaw breathing for christ's sake.
    4. Smokers have the only real community that's left in the workplace today.
    5. Smokers suffer from less stress, since they actually take a few breaks per day.
    6. That bruhaha about second hand smoking is a load of crap. it's just a phrase made up to get normal people who earlier didn't care about it, to go and further persecute the smokers.
    7. It's cool to smoke. Ever seen a hacker or a real artist with a health shake?
    8. Smokers support the economy by paying all those taxes, which *AHEM* some of us don't.
    9. Warning:
      The Surgeon General fails to warn you that non-smokers die every day
    10. Studies have shown that prolonged contact (as in several years) with second hand smoking can cause mild lung problems. Second hand smoke has no immediate harmful effects.
    11. Actually, why not just ban non-smokers? :D
    12. Too much is made of the 4000 chemicals that make up a cigarette. Several carcinogens found in cigarettes are found in peppers, carrots, strawberries, tomatoes, onions and grapefruit.
    13. Believe it or not, nicotine is actually "a surprisingly potent drug for a variety of diseases that afflict the brain, including Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Tourette’s syndrome." (An image makeover for nicotine: It shows promise against brain diseases, HealthCentral.com - Feb. 21, 2000) Smokers have a 60% lower risk of Parkinson's disease
    14. Nicotine has a positive effect on ulcerative colitis, which is an inflammation of the stomach lining, and this disorder affects nonsmokers more than smokers.
    15. Smokers actually recovered better from a heart attack than nonsmokers
    16. Smoking was found to reduce the risk of estrogen-dependent endometrial cancer (dunno what that means, it just sounds really cool)
    17. Schizophrenics (4 million Americans) who smoke can get enough nicotine stimulation to switch on a brain receptor that helps filter information.
    18. Stanford researchers have discovered that low doses of nicotine - a major component of cigarette smoke - appear to promote new blood vessel growth (in mice). (“Nicotine to be used to treat heart disease,” Reuters Health, HealthCentral.com - Sept. 2000)
    19. Alcohol is even more harmful than smoking. Yet not much is said against it as compared to smoking. Half a bottle of wine can supply you with 32-40 times the amount of lead a whole pack of smokes can give you.
    20. "Sick smokers may burden a country's health care system but dead smokers save governments money"


    A single drive to work puts out more deadly fumes and toxins in the air, than a smoker could possibly do in one year. If you drive a car, your car puts out more deadly poisons and toxins in one drive to work than my smoking does in a year. When you go home again, that's another year. So in a couple months, you've created more deadly toxins in the environment than my smoking will in a lifetime. But it's always easier to point fingers at other people, isn't it?

    If you're really concerned about your health then put your money where your mouth is. Stop buying products that are painted (all kinds of toxins put into the environment) or made of plastic (here's some stuff that's good for your health, right?) and stop driving a car. You can survive that way - a lot of people do it. But I'll bet you don't want to give up the conveniences these things offer.

    I'm really tired of hearing people complain about the health risks that smokers present to them when they aren't willing to make changes to their own lifestyle that WOULD AFFECT THEM MORE than having any number of smokers quit.

    I'm a smoker and to be honest, I really hate seeing butts all over the ground. But I'm also tired of seeing McDonalds wrappers all over the place. When a non-smoker sees a butt on the ground, they always say something like, "ALL smokers should have to clean these up." or something along the lines of punishment for ALL smokers. But they never say "every person who eats at McDonalds should have to clean these up."

    When was the last time you heard this one:
    "He went to the bar after work, had one smoke too many and went home and beat the crap out of his wife and kids?"
    Or
    "That auto accident was caused by someone who smoked one too many? (we're talking about tobacco here)."

  15. #35

    Question

    Pehle paise funko ......

    Fer apni lungs aur poore body ko funko ......

    Fer aapse pyar karne waale logo ke dilo ko funko ......

    :rolleyes::eek:

    Ye keemat kuch jyada nahi hai ? Mujhe samajh nahi aata log aisi aadatein daalte hi kyo hain, jabki cigarette aisi cheez hai jo shuru me kuch baar peene me to shayad irritate jayada karti hai instead of giving any pleasure.....

    BTW, isko peene se kis type ka pleasure/releif mehsoos hota hai jo padhe likhe log bhi sab kuch jaante hue bhi iski aadat ko apne gale daalte hain jaan bujhkar ?

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    Samar showing serious concerns for ladies being addicted to smoking....hehe.....i don't feel ki Jat Women are falling in any such bad trap :D.....kyun lady members ?????.....are you????.....atleast m not :D[/LIST]Regards
    Neelam
    trust me....they r....

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by brainspeak View Post
    trust me....they r....
    then i need to expand my social horizons as i only noticed such things in other communities but not in ours

    and Brahm Sir, pls exclude our predecessors from the list :D....unhe chilam/hukke ki adat pad gayi so pad gayi.....aaj ke log to samajhdar hain, aur apne aas-paas ke logon ki taqleef ko samajh sakte hain

    i think u only said somewhere, smart r the people who learn from others mistakes.....to bade-budhon se ye seekh lete kyun nahin :D

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by rajivsp View Post
    The effects of smoking have been greatly exaggerated, and it's us smokers who have to face the public sentiment on this.
    Sorry ! Don’t be under such misconception. It hasn’t been exaggerated at all, in fact many a dark facts are still not mentioned ! And who will face the public sentiment – the doer or the taker, I think it has to be doer or not?

    Anyways, what is the big deal if I smoke?
    Naa…….. No big deal at all, but fortunately or unfortunately man is a social animal and his acts elongate to reach out to others with the ill-effects imbibed therein – you want it or not YOU cant help it.

    People will often come up to me and tell me, "Smoking can kill you, you know?" I promptly reply with some smartass remark like "Really? THANK you for telling me!" Yeah, Sherlocks. I'm too stupid and illiterate to read the warning on the pack, let alone understand it.
    That’s the irony dear ! It you were illiterate then it could have been understood that you cant understand the consequences that much wisely or rationally, but people tell you this time and again to remind you that you are not illiterate dude ….. then how come you are seemingly ready to fall into the dark well ……..! Knowingly falling into a bullshit is not expected from literates actually, may be that’s why they remind you.

    I have this feeling that not smoking actually makes people so stupid, they don't realize that smokers already know what they're doing to their bodies.

    It’s the other way round actually. Smoking makes people so stupid that they don’t realize that they are doing bad to themselves and this is too bad a thing - I mean it’s asinine, idiotic, illogical and unthoughtful

    Hey, I know my lungs have taken on a distinct coloration of black, with pink patches here and there. I know that I'll be hacking up blood in my cough, a couple years from now. Who gives a damn?
    May be you don’t give a damn, but your family, your mother, your wife etc will surely give. And it’s so unfortunate to hear that you don’t give a damn to what they will feel on seeing you coughing with blood hacked up in it and dying each day passing and that too in a torturous manner.

    May be AND take my word for it IT WILL SUELY HAPPEN that one day you will yearn for life and life will be bidding you farewell in new style each day. You made fun of life whole your life and it will make fun of you at that time – you will neither live nor die and will long for few healthy moments : BUT all this will not reverse back that day.

    Am sorry to mention all this but I see EACH heavy smoker meeting this fate some day (And these are the same smokers who used to mention this lines once upon a good time !) Alas!

    I have a hectic and inundated life, and I'd like to take a break from it all to enjoy the relief that the cigarette can bring to me. .......... I don't think that they're even worthy of breathing my 2nd hand smoke.
    Sorry again, but you aren’t worthy of their advise actually !Many others have a hectic life but does that means loose your brains

    How many of you readers smoke? How many of you are ferverent anti-smoking lobbyists? What IS your problem with smokers? Till date, I haven't seen a good answer for that last question.
    I am aint any kind of lobbyist but my problem with smokers is that they burn their money to burn their energy & eventually they end up burning their life with each smoke they emit proudly. This could have been ok, but when the ones left behind see such persons dying slowly each day then that’s the worst thing. You cant realize – you being on the wrong side and thereby you lose your eligibility to comment.

    !
    ......"


    All the pleas put here are really funny.

    Now 100 baat ki 1 baat :

    You can cover up your face from a problem (by putting a silk cloth, or a gold embroidered cloth may be.... :D) but that does not means that there is no problem !!


  19. #39

    Cool

    Now here's my pointwise answers to your spit:

    1-Meditation and yoga can also do so. That’s free of cost also. And it does not take much time too as compared to its benefits. Cost-benefit analysis you see.

    2- 1 out of 3 is a very Big chance. And it is not a general sentiment. YOU mentioned that “ I know my lungs have taken on a distinct coloration of black, with pink patches here and there. I know that I'll be hacking up blood in my cough, a couple years from now. Who gives a damn?” – Now don’t jump off from this. This proves that you know its BAD. :thappad

    3- All these places observe what is widely accepted “Demotivate Smokers- Smoking kills” Whats the wrong with that, do you want these places too in the grab of ‘Suttebaaj’ lying here & there, with smokes flying everywhere and even the non smokers breathing your sins… Oh Come on, atleast don’t be childish in calling it a persecution, its pragmatism!!

    4- Thotha chana baaje Ghana……. Apne muh miya mitthu to koi bhi ban sake hai ….:thappad

    5- Ja ke namkeen kha aaoge to bhi ….you will be able to take a tasty break ! I mean this excuse is really without any class.

    6- Hahaaaaa now this is hilarious. BTW, how have you been persecuted… I mean tumko kya log muh chidaate hain ? Ab tum kisi ko dheema zeher pilaoge to wo chuun bhi na kare kya … had hai …… infact you are persecuting them.

    7- Yeah have seen plenty …… you can also see many, but with your eyes shut it will not be possible !
    Actually its cool not to smoke, what say? Now don’t just jump and try reversing the statement. Coolness is person specific dear. You find it cool – I find it utter stupidity. And please don’t expect the world to take your opinion, its majority that prevails.

    8- Aur wohi smokers apne business me loss dikha ke laakho ka income tax na dete.
    Smokers ki neeyat tax bharne ki nahi hoti bas apni talab bharne ki hoti hai, no need to cover up the ‘neeyat’ that lay behind. Everyone knows that.:rock

    9- oh... really !!Gyan ki baarish ....

    10- Second ki baat chalo chod do aap first ki hi maan leyo na …. :tamatar

    11-
    Good idea, but then this earth will turn into a land of people coughing with blood hacked in their coughs, blood and cough all around – yakkkk ….

    12- you don’t eat 20 peppers or onions a day ! Moreover the quantum of it differs if it is so.

    13-
    Parkinson’s disease lagne se pehle unko kaafi disease lag jaati hain actually. Anyways, is fact me quantum of nicotine bhi koi maayne rakhta hoga surely!

    14-
    Ek disorder se bachne ke liye ya fir ek positive effect paane ke liye duniya bhar ke disorder gale laga lo – samajhdaar insaan nahi karega kabhi.

    15-Hahhaaaaa just to enjoy their bronchitis & all and die slowly and steadily instead of getting relieved of their pitiful stage instantly owing to a heart attack.

    16- Tumko hai kya ye cool disease?

    17- Tum Schizophrenics ho kya?

    18- Tum mice hoooooooo ??????? Jatland mice ko allow nahi karti as a member I guess…..:thappad

    19- This is like comparing a murderer with a rapist – murderer is 40 times less bad than a rapist something like that oops

    20- Apne money ki chinta kar lo pehle, wo ho jaaye to family ke money ki kar lena, government se itna bhi pyar nahi hoga aapko

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    then i need to expand my social horizons as i only noticed such things in other communities but not in ours

    and Brahm Sir, pls exclude our predecessors from the list :D....unhe chilam/hukke ki adat pad gayi so pad gayi.....aaj ke log to samajhdar hain, aur apne aas-paas ke logon ki taqleef ko samajh sakte hain

    i think u only said somewhere, smart r the people who learn from others mistakes.....to bade-budhon se ye seekh lete kyun nahin :D
    Iska matlab hamare bade budh bevakoof the ?:p

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