View Poll Results: Is JL a public, democratic platform or is it a personal fiefdom of our mods.

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  • Yes, its a democratic platform and mods are not misusing their power.

    49 62.03%
  • No, its not a democratic platform. Mods often times abuse their powers.

    25 31.65%
  • I am confused as such I wud refrain from giving my opinion.

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Thread: Is JL a public, democratic platform or is it a personal fiefdom of our mods.

  1. #41

    leg pulling & intimidation name of the game

    lleg pulling- personal attack is the order of the day.
    jab koe personal attack karta hae
    uss time senior members panchayat-moderator koe action nahi lete.
    jab self defence koe likhta hae. usko ban kar dete han.
    kuch deen mae gali denewala hi panchayati ban jata hae.
    pahle aatack karta- phir moderator sy ristedari nikalta
    phir apna statement edit/delete kar deta hae. moderators ko
    sikayat karta hae.
    yahi pahle panga leta
    jab panga bhari pad jata hae
    tao lukta phirta hae.
    moderators sy complaint karta hae.
    intimidation is the name of game.
    desi bhasa mae
    pahle sararat karta hae.
    koe jubab deta hae tao rota hae
    sikayat karta hae
    groups banata hae
    badle ki bhawana
    sy kam karta hae.
    personal score settle karta hae
    jab expose hota hae tao
    kuch days/months/yera ky vad dusre nan sy entry marta hae.
    kae tao ase karke moderator bhi van jate han
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by ranjitjat View Post
    lleg pulling- personal attack is the order of the day.
    jab koe personal attack karta hae
    uss time senior members panchayat-moderator koe action nahi lete.
    jab self defence koe likhta hae. usko ban kar dete han.
    kuch deen mae gali denewala hi panchayati ban jata hae.
    pahle aatack karta- phir moderator sy ristedari nikalta
    phir apna statement edit/delete kar deta hae. moderators ko
    sikayat karta hae.
    yahi pahle panga leta
    jab panga bhari pad jata hae
    tao lukta phirta hae.
    moderators sy complaint karta hae.
    intimidation is the name of game.
    desi bhasa mae
    pahle sararat karta hae.
    koe jubab deta hae tao rota hae
    sikayat karta hae
    groups banata hae
    badle ki bhawana
    sy kam karta hae.
    personal score settle karta hae
    jab expose hota hae tao
    kuch days/months/yera ky vad dusre nan sy entry marta hae.
    kae tao ase karke moderator bhi van jate han
    dudee ji namaskaar...isharo ko agar samjho raaj ko raaj rahne do.....:D:D
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

  3. #43
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    One thing which i am pretty sure is that Jatland is not a progressive , dyanamic , moving site in terms of the culture and things that happen.

    Disappointing to say the least.

  4. #44
    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14971

    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9746

    old members know the game and left
    new members can judge how fair the system WORK
    one moderator say dudi ji not banned
    another say mistake
    third say under moderated list.
    my tribute to a great soul not allowed.
    I told my son and other members to write on my behelf.
    that was accepted after high drama.
    other time I paid tribute to Lilaram Sangwan.
    another person started another thread

    - Did He really great-or ? Badman-
    kichad uchhalana on the day of his death.
    I asked moderators to stop him- but they allow and enjoy the game.

    I wrote- DadrI phogat ki Jhhadu Singh Sardar.
    He started- another thread- Dadri mae kab raja huwa. ?

    I write about Sangu Dada- Raja Sangran Singh
    he done the same. The reason he was doing personal score with me.

    He was in UK 1997-98- before jatland started-
    asking me help- Mera Havan ka Dhanda chalva dae.
    I am coming to london to stay with you- I said sorry We are going To USA.
    Vah kahta HAE House to vahi rahega- Let us stay. I said not possible.

    Ak dusare Admi ny bhi personal panga liya tha with some moderator help.

    Gali usne diye- intimidetion kiya.
    No moderator stop him- but supported
    When I stop Him- they banned me as moderator and member.
    thewy deleted mt posts. close my threads.
    recently he or his relative ask to open that thread.
    thank God
    he was already exposed- so no one wrote a single reply.
    moderators should close that hate thread
    and delete his abuse on me and other members.
    that is over 2 months with out reply.

    kae me3mbers ny kaha-Dudi Sahib
    mae community aur Gotrakhap ki taraf sy MAFI MAGTA HUN.
    YAH AAP KO GALI NAHI HAE- JATKAUM KO GALI HAE
    . THAT HOX MEMBER NOT ANY MORE MAY BE IN ANOTHER NAME.
    COMMUNITY SITE CHALANE KY LIYE LIFE LONG EXP KI JARURAT HOTI HAE.
    22-23 YRS KY BALAK ko $ 60000 DOLLAR LAPTOP MILE JAYE
    TAO HAWA MAE UDNE LAGTA HAE.
    GALI DO- BAN KARO- DUDI KAUM KO SAMRAPIT HAE.
    KAUM KY INVITATION PER APNA EXP
    LIFE KA SHARE KARNE YAHAN PER HUN.
    LEKIN YAHAN COMMUNITY JASE BAT NAHI HAE.
    YADI MEMBERS APNI ATMA KI AWAJ SUNE-
    POSITIVE ACT KARE TAO IMPROVEMENT HO SAKTA HAE

    I CAN WRITE FULL BOOK ON MY EXP OF LIFE AND JATLAND
    INSIDE OUT- KAUM KI BHALAI KY LIYE
    KISI PER KICHHAD UCHHALNE KY LIYE NAHI.

    JO YAH KAHTE HAN -WE ALREADY KNOW MORE THAN YOU
    GOOD LUCK TO THEM AND GOOD BYE
    Last edited by ranjitjat; August 5th, 2008 at 11:22 PM.
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  5. #45
    YAH AAP KO GALI NAHI HAE- JATKAUM KO GALI HAE
    . THAT HOX MEMBER NOT ANY MORE MAY BE IN ANOTHER NAME.
    COMMUNITY SITE CHALANE KY LIYE LIFE LONG EXP KI JARURAT HOTI HAE.
    22-23 YRS KY BALAK ko $ 60000 DOLLAR LAPTOP MILE JAYE
    TAO HAWA MAE UDNE LAGTA HAE.
    GALI DO- BAN KARO- DUDI KAUM KO SAMRAPIT HAE.
    KAUM KY INVITATION PER APNA EXP
    LIFE KA SHARE KARNE YAHAN PER HUN.
    LEKIN YAHAN COMMUNITY JASE BAT NAHI HAE.
    YADI MEMBERS APNI ATMA KI AWAJ SUNE-
    POSITIVE ACT KARE TAO IMPROVEMENT HO SAKTA HAE

    I CAN WRITE FULL BOOK ON MY EXP OF LIFE AND JATLAND
    INSIDE OUT- KAUM KI BHALAI KY LIYE
    KISI PER KICHHAD UCHHALNE KY LIYE NAHI.

    JO YAH KAHTE HAN -WE ALREADY KNOW MORE THAN YOU
    GOOD LUCK TO THEM AND GOOD BYE[/quote]



    DUDI SAHB RAM RAM............

    WANT TO ASK SIMPLE QUESTION? IS THERE ANYONE IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN BE OR WILL BE GOOD FOR EVERYONE? I THINK ITS NOT POSSIBLE.... AS A HUMAN BEING I THINK ITS NOT NEAR TO POSSIBLE... WHO WAS GOD.... I SAY SOMEONE WHO IS VERY VERY EXTRAORDINARY... THAN HUMAN BEINGS.. OR NORMAL PEOPLE...WAS GOD.....

    THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS... BUT IF THAT SAME PERSON DO ONE OR TWO MISTAKES... EVERYONE STAND AGAINST HIM WITH LATH .. I M VERY YOUNG TO U N JUST STARTS MY LIFE IN THIS WORLD SEEN SO MANY SHADES OF LIFE... SEEN THE HARD N GOOD TIME IN SMALL PERIOD.. HAVE TO SEE LOT MORE......... DONE GOOD DEEDS... BUT ITS ALWAYS A CHANCE WE GET HURT FOR THOSE GOOD DEEDS.......ITS EASY TO SAY.... NEKI KAR AUR KUYE ME DAAL.... HARD TO DO....... WHATEVER WE DO WE ALWAYS EXPECT SOME RESULT FROM THAT... IT COULD BE BAD OR GOOD........... SOME TIME IT GOES BAD MORE THAN GOOD... N THAN WE COME OUT TO SAY SOMETHING TO FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS....... LIFE IS FULL OF COMPLAINS... SOMETIME WE SEE ITS GOOD BUT NOT POSSIBLE ITS GONNA BE GOOD ALWAYS...........I M NOT BEEN LONG ON JATLAND.. BUT NOT VERY SHORT AS WELL... MANY PEOPLE DONT LIKE TO SAY KOI BAAT NA... THOSE MANY COMES WITH THEIR OWN POINT OF VEIW.. AND I DONT THINKS ITS NECESSARY THAT EVERYONE IS SAME ALIKE.. IF U N ME RESPECT SOMETHING NOT REALLY NECESSARY EVERYONE DO.. N VICE VERSA... I DONT READ ALL DETAILS OF ALL THE THREAD.. I ONLY DID FEW .. N WRITES ON BEHALF OF THEM... I MAY BE WRONG ON SOME POINT........ BUT.... HERE I SAY AGAIN... NO ONE IS WRONG ON HIS OR HER POINT OF VIEW....

    I M SORRY IF I HURTS ANYONES FEELINGS....

    UNCLE JI I JUST SAID COZ I FEEL TO SAY SOMETHING ON THIS.......AGAIN MY APPOLOGIES IF I SAID ANYTHING WRONG.........

  6. #46
    I would like to say here that coming generations are smarter than their earlier generations. We are are smarter than are father or forefathers. Our kids will be smarter than us and our grand kids will be smarter than our kids. It is nothing new and we all know it. Experience matters but it is not true always. Someone with a little experience can be smarter than a person with tons of experience. This forum is not moving with a pace in right direction, all of us need to work hard to produce results for the betterment of Jat community and we can feel that we did not waiste our time on this platform.
    Last edited by ygulia; August 6th, 2008 at 06:35 AM.
    Yoginder Gulia

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by ygulia View Post
    I would like to say here that coming generations are smarter than their earlier generations. We are are smarter than are father or forefathers. Our kids will be smarter than us and our grand kids will be smarter than our kids. It is nothing new and we all know it. Experience matters but it is not true always. Someone with a little experience can be smarter than a person with tons of experience. This forum is not moving with a pace in right direction, all of us need to work hard to produce results for the betterment of Jat community and we can feel that we did not waiste our time on this platform.
    Yoginder,

    There is no other forum which has such a wide collection and data base of jats on a single plateform which Jl does.There are many other Jat forums now which have turned in to single poster sites only. Mentioning of 'quality controller' has been discussed here in same section. Though forum states that it has been started for interaction for jats only.Now the definition of interaction could be discussed and then only your idea of pursuing better goals for community can be practised in my opinion.
    For this ex Mods,current mods, owners and other respected members can share , start and produce a refined and a better oriented forum out of it.


    Thanks.
    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

  8. #48
    Dear Ramlal
    RAM RAM
    PLEASE READ COL DEV DAHIYA THREAD YOUR KAKU.
    WE ALL MAKE MISTAKE DAILY AND LEARNING FROM MISTAKE. THIS IS LIFE LONG PROCESS. IAM ALSO LEARNING. BUT A SLOW LEARNER.
    YOUNG GENERATION IS VERY SMART AND WISH THEM GOOD LUCK. BUT TELL ME.
    WILL YOU TRUST A PEOPLE WHO TELL YOU WRONG ID ON PHONE
    TALKING FROM IRELAND AND TELLING CHANDI GARH ?
    WILL YOU HAND OVER THE KEY OF YOUR HOUSE TO A TOTAL STRANGER ?
    PERSONAL PROBLEM KO PUBLIC SITE PER PANGA LENA. HOW SMART ?
    COMMONWEALTH GOLD MEDAL HOLDER KO- GALI DENA ON THE DAY OF HIS DEATH. YAH KAHNA BEHROD KA DANGAL MERE DADA NY SARU KIYA- BERI KY MELE MAE CHHOTI BOLI- VAH KAYA HINDKESRI HO GAYA ?
    MORE TO READ FROM OTHER THREADS IF YOU HAVE TIME.
    THANK YOU FOR TELLING ME YOU VOTE FOR MODERATORS.
    WE ARE NOT FIGHTING WAR- SARI BAT SITE KO BETTER BANANA HAE




    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...t=24518&page=5


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by dndeswal View Post
    वाह योग-गुरू जीत ! 'गुरु ज्ञान' तो ठीक है - यह धागा पढ़ने पर अभी तक तो मेरे पल्ले कुछ नहीं पड़ा - कौन किसके साथ 'misbehave' कर रहा है ? कोई कुछ खोल कर बताये तो बात कुछ समझ में आये । अगर तुम्हें कुछ प्रकाश पड़ा हो तो लिखो यहां पर ।
    .
    This thread started in response to some personal attack on a very senior and respected member Shri Dhrampal Dudi ji.

    His response showing his pain and hurt was posted both in current affair and Jat history sections ,Perhaps you missed both.

    Those who do a lot of hard work must not be exposed to useless remarks by any one.

    Thread now seems to have lost its direction and can be closed by moderator..
    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...t=24118&page=5



    personal problem
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    Its quite ironical for me to think this way but here it is which is evident and factual ,' Learned Jat Historians are incapable of envisioning the future of the race except blindly following reservation in Haryana[Nearby states as well] as a redeem for unity and well being.'

    Irnoy is that they are very good about past still unlearned abt future.But I'm dangerouly optimistic.

    Dnt fire at me without apt logic, rational and action plan.Period.
    dear all
    Samar use to chat with from Ireland at night. when he came from india-lonely soul.
    He used to say you are my rolemodel. I have read all your books.
    when I realise person is not honest- not in India this time-.
    I ignored him few time.
    sence than he made it personal. start panga with me on jathistory and jat education group at yahoo and other sites. I ignored him on jatland. put he is taking panga and making personal for reason known only to him. I can not think a person can go so low.
    bhai yah thread reservation ka- Naresh kadian ny saru kiya hae.
    koe problem hae to uss ka seer phod.
    Dudee sy panga kis bat ka.
    Hamne jo likhna tha likh diya.
    kisi ky pass- naya vision-mission ho vah maan ki nikal lo.
    personal attack kis bat ka.








    DUDI SAHB RAM RAM............

    WANT TO ASK SIMPLE QUESTION? IS THERE ANYONE IN THIS WORLD WHO CAN BE OR WILL BE GOOD FOR EVERYONE? I THINK ITS NOT POSSIBLE.... AS A HUMAN BEING I THINK ITS NOT NEAR TO POSSIBLE... WHO WAS GOD.... I SAY SOMEONE WHO IS VERY VERY EXTRAORDINARY... THAN HUMAN BEINGS.. OR NORMAL PEOPLE...WAS GOD.....

    THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE IN THIS WORLD DO SO MANY GOOD THINGS... BUT IF THAT SAME PERSON DO ONE OR TWO MISTAKES... EVERYONE STAND AGAINST HIM WITH LATH .. I M VERY YOUNG TO U N JUST STARTS MY LIFE IN THIS WORLD SEEN SO MANY SHADES OF LIFE... SEEN THE HARD N GOOD TIME IN SMALL PERIOD.. HAVE TO SEE LOT MORE......... DONE GOOD DEEDS... BUT ITS ALWAYS A CHANCE WE GET HURT FOR THOSE GOOD DEEDS.......ITS EASY TO SAY.... NEKI KAR AUR KUYE ME DAAL.... HARD TO DO....... WHATEVER WE DO WE ALWAYS EXPECT SOME RESULT FROM THAT... IT COULD BE BAD OR GOOD........... SOME TIME IT GOES BAD MORE THAN GOOD... N THAN WE COME OUT TO SAY SOMETHING TO FAMILY MEMBERS OR FRIENDS....... LIFE IS FULL OF COMPLAINS... SOMETIME WE SEE ITS GOOD BUT NOT POSSIBLE ITS GONNA BE GOOD ALWAYS...........I M NOT BEEN LONG ON JATLAND.. BUT NOT VERY SHORT AS WELL... MANY PEOPLE DONT LIKE TO SAY KOI BAAT NA... THOSE MANY COMES WITH THEIR OWN POINT OF VEIW.. AND I DONT THINKS ITS NECESSARY THAT EVERYONE IS SAME ALIKE.. IF U N ME RESPECT SOMETHING NOT REALLY NECESSARY EVERYONE DO.. N VICE VERSA... I DONT READ ALL DETAILS OF ALL THE THREAD.. I ONLY DID FEW .. N WRITES ON BEHALF OF THEM... I MAY BE WRONG ON SOME POINT........ BUT.... HERE I SAY AGAIN... NO ONE IS WRONG ON HIS OR HER POINT OF VIEW....

    I M SORRY IF I HURTS ANYONES FEELINGS....

    UNCLE JI I JUST SAID COZ I FEEL TO SAY SOMETHING ON THIS.......AGAIN MY APPOLOGIES IF I SAID ANYTHING WRONG.........
    Yesterday 06:33 PM
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  9. #49

    I have respect for lady moderators

    Dear all
    i have respect and regards for lady moderators- sita ram jakhar and new moderator mr ahlawat. Good luck to them.
    Also those who left with grace
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  10. #50
    Even I have respect for all ladies.....but whats the point....??

    Dudi saheb, If you feel that certain mods have not cleared the controversy esp. pertaining to your posts, then why ask for clarification......after all its all EGO which dominates..."mujhe usne aise kyun nahi karne diya"..aap to itne senior aur experienced ho, phir bhi kiss chakker mein ho.....jaane do....

    If you are doing gud for JAT community then IS Jatland a place for the proganda..??
    and if yes then this is the first when I heard that a Community is graced by a website.....

    Yogender Gulia said it rite........experience matters but, its not alwayz true....your comment about a 22-23 old chap starting a website with $ 60 K laptop is not justified......you seem to be way older then any of us.....then why dont you sell your ideology on your own website....as you claim this website has not been complying with your standards and yet again mudslinging on fellow members....WHY ?? whats the diff between them and you...?

    With all due respect......I wrote, what I thot of this post...just a continuation of ongoing "fruitful discussion"
    Last edited by keshavdahiya; August 6th, 2008 at 09:15 PM.
    Keshav Dahiya
    www.dahiya.us



  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by keshavdahiya View Post
    Even I have respect for all ladies.....but whats the point....??

    Dudi saheb, If you feel that certain mods have not cleared the controversy esp. pertaining to your posts, then why ask for clarification......after all its all EGO which dominates..."mujhe usne aise kyun nahi karne diya"..aap to itne senior aur experienced ho, phir bhi kiss chakker mein ho.....jaane do....

    If you are doing gud for JAT community then IS Jatland a place for the proganda..??
    and if yes then this is the first when I heard that a Community is graced by a website.....

    Yogender Gulia said it rite........experience matters but, its not alwayz true....your comment about a 22-23 old chap starting a website with $ 60 K laptop is not justified......you seem to be way older then any of us.....then why dont you sell your ideology on your own website....as you claim this website has not been complying with your standards and yet again mudslinging on fellow members....WHY ?? whats the diff between them and you...?

    With all due respect......I wrote, what I thot of this post...just a continuation of ongoing "fruitful discussion"

    Very well said.. fully agree..

  12. #52
    Dear kesav
    there is difference between ego and self respect.
    You ask me reason once before. I told you and every one
    why i am here.
    See dev dahiya thread and his request to behave.
    Sumar started personal attack this time.
    I do not make personal attack on any one.
    I do not take it.
    New generation is smarter- got iti knowledge
    good luck to them
    but exp count aswell. I am also learning.
    We are discussing how we can improve.
    Learn from past mistake. We are here to share and care.
    If i am not welcome or not making positive contribution.
    I will not be here
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  13. #53
    Respected dudee ji namaskaar......please don't take criticism as humiliation.......Emotional outburst from a senior member gives a sense of loose temperament....and definitely it's not a good sign for the youngers....several negative remarks(if u take them negatively) must not stop ur immense spirit of community welfare and your ultimate goal..We all need ur guidance...
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

  14. #54
    (thank you prashant for your above post)
    ...
    जीते हैं वही लोग इस आशोबे जहां में
    जो दूर से साहिल का नज़ारा नहीं करते
    ....Zafar
    ...
    रंगिनीये हयात बढाने के वास्ते,
    पड़ती है हादसों की ज़रूरत कभी कभी....ghalib
    ...
    इशरते कतरा है दरया में फना हो जाना,
    दर्द का हद से गुजरना है दवा हो जाना
    ....ghalib
    ...
    ऐ आसमां तेरे खुदा का नहीं है खौफ़
    डरते हैं...ऐ ज़मीन तेरे आदमी से हम
    ें....manzoor haashmi
    ...
    dudee ji, namaskaar ! i may not be knowing much about you, but some how i feel, that i know a lot about you. i sincerely appreciate and applaud your efforts and love for the community... "carry on dudee ji" you owe a lot to JAT's and to the generation NEXT...history will tell it some day.
    v
    v
    v
    हम अपने नक्शे कदम छोड़ आये थे वरना
    चराग कौन जलाता किसी के रास्ते में
    ....Zafar



    p.s. = apologies to deshwal ji for breaking my promise by posting agn...i guess thts wat promises r meant for :p
    Last edited by brahmtewatia; August 8th, 2008 at 05:46 PM.
    ! ... be BOLD in what you stand for !
    !! ... i've the simplest tastes, i'm always satisfied with the best !!
    !!! ... be yourself, everyone else is already taken !!!

  15. #55
    Respected Sir ,

    Please don't hurt yourself .Those who know you ,know your commitment ,dedication and sacrifice for our community .

    All good people with out any exception got such comments from their own people .


    Please carry on your good work for our community .


    Regards

    Narender Singh Kharb

  16. #56
    So any conclusions....by MOD's..so far
    If someone has to kill you, he has to beat you first.

  17. #57
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    There should have been an option for "too democratic" , i would have voted for that , and i am being true to myself.


    Seems like moderatros have done a lot of stress testing on themselves.

    anyone , anywhere can say anything , they just have some phrases like " Freedom of Speech" to justify that.

  18. #58
    has any MOD tried to see and answer the points raised by members, specially some active members xxx xxx xxx xxxx etc. and these members can also be apointed as MODs , what is wrong in this. (App sabhee ne panch permeshwer by Munsee premchand kahani padhee hi hogi
    The never-ending task : Self Improvement

  19. #59

    welcum samar kadian

    i welcum samar kadian as our new moderator !!! to the existing coterie of... (!+@+$+^+&+v+;=???) :D:D:D

    i sincerely hope tht his presence wud bring more/better sanity at JL... nd wud make this portal more transparent nd less autocratic.
    ! ... be BOLD in what you stand for !
    !! ... i've the simplest tastes, i'm always satisfied with the best !!
    !!! ... be yourself, everyone else is already taken !!!

  20. #60

    For the Mods!

    Hi i want to ask a question to our Mods
    There is a one thread name What Jat boys say about Jat gals?
    and in that particular thread there was a post http://www.jatland.com/forums/showpo...0&postcount=29
    and that post has been clearly written to point out me but as now all the related reply written by me to the above post has been deleted by giving the reason: Not realated with subject Anyways by our mod. But the mod has to not consider the above post irrelevant, if the above post is not irrelevant i m 100% supposed to reply against that post.
    I hope that Mods will take some necessary action.

    Regards'
    Nishant Rathi
    Plant one tree atleast
    and pls save water and electricity

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