What Gujars Write About Jats

[ranjitjat]

http://samajsandesh.proboards23.com/...hread=3&page=2
do not shoot me.
any reaction/gutts reaction-thought about guars site

6. The jat politicians and criminals glorified by this man are real euinuchs otherwise where were they When Chandra Swamy exploited Pamela Singh (alias Pamela bordes) a jat girl from haryana of Miss India Runners fame as a call Girl and served her as prostitute to arms dealer Khasshogi and to many more. It was brave Gujjars who saved some pride for jat farmer community and sent Chandra Swami behind the bars.

[shailendra]

... Ha! Ha! Bhaiyee-re, yo patthae bade hi sataye-ode lage sein Haryana Roadways ki bussa mein; maka ennae apnee 'bhaed-bakriyaan' liye kisi nae bhi chaddan konya diya hoga! :D

[ygulia]

We should not pay attention to such articles rather ignore it.

[sandeepkadian05]

Dudi saab India 1947 me azaad ho liya, Us paache sabne apni baat kahen ki azaadi se.... chahe wo gujjar ho er chahe baniya....

[coolphool]

From my last check it was a White Man who ran the world and not a gujjar or a jat. What the point duking it out?

[raka]

http://samajsandesh.proboards23.com/...hread=3&page=2
do not shoot me.
any reaction/gutts reaction-thought about guars site

6. The jat politicians and criminals glorified by this man are real euinuchs otherwise where were they When Chandra Swamy exploited Pamela Singh (alias Pamela bordes) a jat girl from haryana of Miss India Runners fame as a call Girl and served her as prostitute to arms dealer Khasshogi and to many more. It was brave Gujjars who saved some pride for jat farmer community and sent Chandra Swami behind the bars.

Uncle ji aapne bihri gaam me ek tholla s jisne kaddi khana kahya kare. to un kaddi khanya ke ek chhora ek din ghara aa ke aapni maa ne bolya... maa kaal ta m school koni jau.. ... maa booli k baat rr beta......chhora bolya ak maa mane school me sab kaddi khana kah ke khijawe s......maa booli beta yo gaam s tadke n gobbar khana kah dena bata k muuh pakad lega , beta iss gaam ne kahan de tu aapna kaam karija.............
to uncleji iss jat kaum ke to 35 zaat gail lagri s.....
rahi baat chandra swamy ki to udde har bhiradari ke jaa s....m bi bahut jaya karta uss dhag dhore Qutub Hotel ke pichhe hain uska ashram....
udee sab ta jyadha bahmani aawe s jo uske ashram ki agent s ....ek din to ek bhiwani ke patram gate ki ek congress ki netri s wa takar gi mane , dekh ke dhooli ho gai..............
to sab ta badda shyaan to inn bahmanna pa kiya s uss gujjar ne...
aaj kal ye uss Malika sehrawat ke pichhe padd re s , batao k wa ekli a isse usse seen de s , ye kaam to sabi baddi baddi actress kar rahi hain pher malika par ungali kyu , wo jat hain iss liye ?.....
ye media aale bi kasute s , jitne bi badde leader hue s ...Ch.Chhoturam , Ch.Charan Singh , Ch.Devi Lal , Ch.Bansi Lal , Ch.Omprakash Chautala.....eb aage Ch.Bupindher Hooda .....aur bi kai s ..., sab ke naam ke aage jat leader likh diya taki ye sirf jatto tak simitt rahe......punjab aale jat netao ke aage sikh leader likh diya taki we sikho tak simit rahe.....
ye media aale kisi bahraman neta ke naam ke aage nahi likhte ki bahraman neta hain , ya ye khatriyo ka neta hain ya ye mahajano ka neta hain...........par inne to khaj jata ta s

[anuchhikara]

Uncle ji aapne bihri gaam me ek tholla s jisne kaddi khana kahya kare. to un kaddi khanya ke ek chhora ek din ghara aa ke aapni maa ne bolya... maa kaal ta m school koni jau.. ... maa booli k baat rr beta......chhora bolya ak maa mane school me sab kaddi khana kah ke khijawe s......maa booli beta yo gaam s tadke n gobbar khana kah dena bata k muuh pakad lega , beta iss gaam ne kahan de tu aapna kaam karija.............
to uncleji iss jat kaum ke to 35 zaat gail lagri s.....
rahi baat chandra swamy ki to udde har bhiradari ke jaa s....m bi bahut jaya karta uss dhag dhore Qutub Hotel ke pichhe hain uska ashram....
udee sab ta jyadha bahmani aawe s jo uske ashram ki agent s ....ek din to ek bhiwani ke patram gate ki ek congress ki netri s wa takar gi mane , dekh ke dhooli ho gai..............
to sab ta badda shyaan to inn bahmanna pa kiya s uss gujjar ne...
aaj kal ye uss Malika sehrawat ke pichhe padd re s , batao k wa ekli a isse usse seen de s , ye kaam to sabi baddi baddi actress kar rahi hain pher malika par ungali kyu , wo jat hain iss liye ?.....
ye media aale bi kasute s , jitne bi badde leader hue s ...Ch.Chhoturam , Ch.Charan Singh , Ch.Devi Lal , Ch.Bansi Lal , Ch.Omprakash Chautala.....eb aage Ch.Bupindher Hooda .....aur bi kai s ..., sab ke naam ke aage jat leader likh diya taki ye sirf jatto tak simitt rahe......punjab aale jat netao ke aage sikh leader likh diya taki we sikho tak simit rahe.....
ye media aale kisi bahraman neta ke naam ke aage nahi likhte ki bahraman neta hain , ya ye khatriyo ka neta hain ya ye mahajano ka neta hain...........par inne to khaj jata ta s

yes! raka bhai.....all the statements with exmaples..........jiski samj meh na aata ho.......ve bhi badhiya tharh se samj sakte hain....keep it up!!!

[VivekGathwala]

http://samajsandesh.proboards23.com/...hread=3&page=2
do not shoot me.
any reaction/gutts reaction-thought about guars site

6. The jat politicians and criminals glorified by this man are real euinuchs otherwise where were they When Chandra Swamy exploited Pamela Singh (alias Pamela bordes) a jat girl from haryana of Miss India Runners fame as a call Girl and served her as prostitute to arms dealer Khasshogi and to many more. It was brave Gujjars who saved some pride for jat farmer community and sent Chandra Swami behind the bars.

uncle ji hum kiskiska muuuh band kar sakee seee..............rahi baat chandra swami kii............aaj ke din ghanee hi ise chandra swami hore seee.....rohtak dhoree bhii thaa. ek (rampal ji maharaj)...toh inka te kam hi yoo seee ar rahi baat gujjara kiii ............aaap batao ke ke kaho ge unneee....aaap ne yeh link te dediya ki vee ke keh seee aaapne ya na bataiyeee ki ...Pamela Singh (alias Pamela bordes) a jat girl from haryana ......ude ke kareee thiii....uncle ji tali kadee ek hath te na bajtiii........

regards

vivek gathwala

[prashantacmet]

Uncle ji aapne bihri gaam me ek tholla s jisne kaddi khana kahya kare. to un kaddi khanya ke ek chhora ek din ghara aa ke aapni maa ne bolya... maa kaal ta m school koni jau.. ... maa booli k baat rr beta......chhora bolya ak maa mane school me sab kaddi khana kah ke khijawe s......maa booli beta yo gaam s tadke n gobbar khana kah dena bata k muuh pakad lega , beta iss gaam ne kahan de tu aapna kaam karija.............
to uncleji iss jat kaum ke to 35 zaat gail lagri s.....
rahi baat chandra swamy ki to udde har bhiradari ke jaa s....m bi bahut jaya karta uss dhag dhore Qutub Hotel ke pichhe hain uska ashram....
udee sab ta jyadha bahmani aawe s jo uske ashram ki agent s ....ek din to ek bhiwani ke patram gate ki ek congress ki netri s wa takar gi mane , dekh ke dhooli ho gai..............
to sab ta badda shyaan to inn bahmanna pa kiya s uss gujjar ne...
aaj kal ye uss Malika sehrawat ke pichhe padd re s , batao k wa ekli a isse usse seen de s , ye kaam to sabi baddi baddi actress kar rahi hain pher malika par ungali kyu , wo jat hain iss liye ?.....
ye media aale bi kasute s , jitne bi badde leader hue s ...Ch.Chhoturam , Ch.Charan Singh , Ch.Devi Lal , Ch.Bansi Lal , Ch.Omprakash Chautala.....eb aage Ch.Bupindher Hooda .....aur bi kai s ..., sab ke naam ke aage jat leader likh diya taki ye sirf jatto tak simitt rahe......punjab aale jat netao ke aage sikh leader likh diya taki we sikho tak simit rahe.....
ye media aale kisi bahraman neta ke naam ke aage nahi likhte ki bahraman neta hain , ya ye khatriyo ka neta hain ya ye mahajano ka neta hain...........par inne to khaj jata ta s

Totally agreed bhai sahab........katai 16 aanne sahi baat...............

[rinkusheoran]

i think at the first place we should not give a ear to all these things ...its totally bull.... nthng but only bull....

and it is often said in haryana by non jats that iss bar to CM 35 jaatein banayegi, not a surprise what poor chap has written kyunki ye bhi unn 35 jaaton mein hi aata hain, inke armaan hamesa adhure hai har jagah jahan pe hum hai(jats), aur phir desh mein apni baat kahne ki azadi to hai hi

kuch kutte jaise bhaukne k liye hote hai ye ussi tarah bhaukne k liye hi hai..

so dudeee uncleji jinko bhaukna hai unhe bhaukne do..hum apna kaam karte rahenge.

uncleji " men of few words are the best men"

[ysjabp]

Kuchh To Log Kahenge Logo.n Ka Kaam Hai Kahana
Chhodo Bekar Ki Baato.n ko ..............................

YEH PANKATIYA IS PER PURI TARAH SAHI BAITHATI HEIN.

Gaddi Likadati hai to Kutte Bhossa kare,
Hum thoda hi kutto.n ko marane bahjate hai?

India is a Democratic country , every one open his/her mouth
whatever he/she want to say no body stop them.

IGNORE ALL THIS TYPE OF BULLSHIT .:rock

[kaliramanrk]

:rockITNE DINO KE BAD YO BAAT KAISE YAD AIE. RAHI BVAAT GUJJAR KI TO VO HAMESH LIKHAN SEN KI VEER GUJAR AAP HI BATAO KI KE VEERTA KA KAM KIYA HAI. MAST RAHO KHAO OR MAUJ KARO EK DIN JAB MAHRE BACCHE PAD LIKHKAR BADI POST PAR JANWANGE INKA MOUE APPE HI BAND HOJAGA

[dkumars]

Well i m really sorry to say but dont conclude things by looking one side of the coin. Wo Brahm ji hamesha kehte hai na there is always flip side of coin...
Read this aur agar dil nahi maane toh kuch links hai woh dekhiye. You will find the real truth. Rather than giving space to hatred towards Gujjars, i feel shame on the guy who wrote this as spoiling the name of whole Jat community. The link referred by Dudee ji is a reply of this post. Now please give a glance to this ..

Hi Gujjars

this refers to comment give below by Sanjeev Gujjar.
(I am Hindu GUJJAR(Panwar)from Western U.P. India. We are here in a very good population and are rich and strong farmers.I do'nt know how some gujjars in Pak are saying that they are in very poor conditions? )

Well guys I am also a Gujjar and let me tell you some real truth about gujjars in Western U.P. We are in a very bad shape. Our majority of population still lives below the poverty line. And we are considered as backward classes in India. Caste like Jats and Rajputs do not allow us to sit with them as they consider us as real backward caste.

Our Role in Farming:

As far as gujjars farming background in western U.P is concerned the average land a gujjar boy has in West U.P is 9 Acres which is not haif of as compaired to Jats and Rajputs. In India gujjars are considered as thieves as they used to steal cows and Buffaloes. Some gujjars in Noida (U.P) are rich as they have got the compensation because their land has been acquired by govt. The real farmers in Nothern India are Jats. As they dominate in Haryana, Punjab, Rajasthan, West U.P., Delhi.

Our Fighting Skills:

Another imporatant facts about our fightting skills. We are reqesting Inidian Govt to make an Army Regiment in our caste name but it has been denied by the govt. However Rajputs and Jats were invited by Britishers to Join Indian Army and they have their own Regiment. Also note that even in Kargil these two regiments played a major role in winning that war. Please note that real fighters of India are: first is Rajputs, Jats, Maratha, Sikh. This is real fact that these caste use to include Gujjars in their army to take care of their animals.

A well known Indian Army general from Raj Rifles has said that Gujjars cannot become fighters as they can only fight with buffaloes not with armed mens. Some people in U.P says that previously gujjars used to do stealing and now they are doing kidnapping. This is the image we have. Only because we do not realize that we are really behind the mainstream in India. Castes like Jats and rajputs have really done lot of progress in all the fields. I am telling these facts to all of you as I am an Historian. Let me tell you that Western U.P is dominated by Jats and their leader Ajit Singh. and Rajasthan is dominated by Jats and Rajputs, Haryana only by jats, Punjab only by Jats. U.P by Rajputs and Yadav, Bihar by Yadav, Himachal by Rajputs, M.P by Rajputs. I do not understand which part of India do we dominate. We are in majority in kashmir only but in bad shape as Indian army treat us very badly.

Our Contribution in Politics:

We do not have any existence in Indian Politics except Rajesh Pilot however Rajputs has given Prime Minister like V.P Singh, current President and they have number of Cabinet Minister's and Chief Minister's. Jats had their PM Ch Charan Singh and also Fisrt Vice PM of India Devi Lal and also Gyani Jail Singh as President. What do we have?

Contribution in history:

Our contribution in History is nearly zero as compaired to Rajputs. Rajputs showed the great resistence in war with Mughals. Rajputs also ruled at lots of States in India. Rajputs ruled Rajastahn, Himachal, M.P, Maharashtra for atleast 50 years. So are Jat also as they also have their Bharat Pur estate. Jat Raja Todar Mal ruled U.P, Haryan and Delhi. Jat Raja ranjit Singh ruled Punjab. I do not know which part of India did we rule.

Our Role in Cinema:

This role is still we can't think off. However Rajputs have ChandraChur Singh, Preety Zinta, RajKumar, RajKumar Santoshi and many more. Jats have Dharmendra, Sunny , Bobby Deol. Mahima Chawdhry, Arjun rampal, Esha Deol, Malika Sehrawat, Himanshu malik and many more.

Our role in Sports:

Everybody says we are tough guys but I do not know why we are not in Sports. However Rajputs have Yuvraj Singh in Cricket, and 3 players in Indian Hockey Team. Jats have Sehwag, Nehra, harbajan, Kapil Dev and Ajay ratra in cricket and 4 players in Hockey Team like Gangan Sjit Singh and Jugraj Singh. Jats also have the greatest Indian Werstler Dara Singh.

Contribution in Crime:

We have given lot of criminals like Satveer Gujjar, Mehendra Foji, Mahendra Bhati and madan Bhaiya. even most of these guys were fixed single handedly by D.P Yadav.

And now the undisputed criminal of Western U.P are jatan Sirohi, Rakesh Hasanpuria, Sushil Mooch all these guys are Jats. We are not even in crime also.

I do not undersatand where our community is going. Let us realize that we are small community in India and have our own limitations. All our criminals were crushed by either jats cops or by some other criminals.
Situation is not same with Rajputs and Jats criminals. they are given lot liberty. Our MLA from khekra (U.P) is saving his ass from the cops and do not go out of the village Zavli and all the time looking for Jat Leader Ch Ajit Singh support.
Friends I also love my caste however I just tried to bring some hard truth about Gujjars in front of everyone as we are not ready to accept these truth. Let us except these truth and start building our strength the way Rajputs and Jats did. I wish all the best to all of you.

Please click on the link below and find that Gujjars in Rajasthan share theie wife with their brotheres also.

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/mag/2003/08/31/stories/2003083100250400.htm

How cheap we are.

Looking forward to hearing from all of you

Best Regards

Vijay Raj

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Few more links abt this idiot, the language he used and imagine if same is done by some Gujjar on JL then what wud be our reaction. I dont find the content of this post good enough enough to paste here so if u wish u can click otherwise chill.

http://samajsandesh.proboards23.com/...03&page=1#1086

Now if this guy is a Jat then i feel he is seriously sck and needs some mental treatment.

You can consider this post in anyway but i love and respect truth.
Enjoy... Lets blast on Gujjars and generate hatred towards other communities. All the best.. Cheers :rock

[dkumars]

One more from this dickhead
http://samajsandesh.proboards23.com/...ad=5&page=2#56

[VivekGathwala]

thanks for the post DK ...............i hope every bodu will now get the answer
..........good work


regards

vivek gathwala

[bahadur1]

Thanks Dundi Sahib,

All these things happen due to the sub-castes, such as Panwar falls under Jats, Gujjars, Rajputs, Chamars etc.

Ik kahawat hay " Apne Moonh Minya Mithhu Banana" so everybody wants to show oneself that he in only the superman.

[vicky84]

Bhai saab logan nai ek bai vo kitab ki jaankari de do nai jo uncle nai lik rakhi sai..Poore reference hai usme ke baman kisse rahe hain jaatan ke khilaf..baaki nyu hai u desh bharat issa hai jjisme Supreme Court ne nyu statement de rakhi sai ke is Desh ka Bhagwan hi Maalik hai...

Uncle ji aapne bihri gaam me ek tholla s jisne kaddi khana kahya kare. to un kaddi khanya ke ek chhora ek din ghara aa ke aapni maa ne bolya... maa kaal ta m school koni jau.. ... maa booli k baat rr beta......chhora bolya ak maa mane school me sab kaddi khana kah ke khijawe s......maa booli beta yo gaam s tadke n gobbar khana kah dena bata k muuh pakad lega , beta iss gaam ne kahan de tu aapna kaam karija.............
to uncleji iss jat kaum ke to 35 zaat gail lagri s.....
rahi baat chandra swamy ki to udde har bhiradari ke jaa s....m bi bahut jaya karta uss dhag dhore Qutub Hotel ke pichhe hain uska ashram....
udee sab ta jyadha bahmani aawe s jo uske ashram ki agent s ....ek din to ek bhiwani ke patram gate ki ek congress ki netri s wa takar gi mane , dekh ke dhooli ho gai..............
to sab ta badda shyaan to inn bahmanna pa kiya s uss gujjar ne...
aaj kal ye uss Malika sehrawat ke pichhe padd re s , batao k wa ekli a isse usse seen de s , ye kaam to sabi baddi baddi actress kar rahi hain pher malika par ungali kyu , wo jat hain iss liye ?.....
ye media aale bi kasute s , jitne bi badde leader hue s ...Ch.Chhoturam , Ch.Charan Singh , Ch.Devi Lal , Ch.Bansi Lal , Ch.Omprakash Chautala.....eb aage Ch.Bupindher Hooda .....aur bi kai s ..., sab ke naam ke aage jat leader likh diya taki ye sirf jatto tak simitt rahe......punjab aale jat netao ke aage sikh leader likh diya taki we sikho tak simit rahe.....
ye media aale kisi bahraman neta ke naam ke aage nahi likhte ki bahraman neta hain , ya ye khatriyo ka neta hain ya ye mahajano ka neta hain...........par inne to khaj jata ta s

[vicky84]

"Even God will not be able to save this country. In India even if God comes down, he cannot change our country. Our country's character has gone. We are helpless," a bench of Justices B N Aggrawal and G S Singhvi said.

Ye baat humare desh ke judge kevain sain..

[Bhupinder]

We can not denie any truth , This is a lesson for us to stop such things with our people. We should take some step to stop this in future.

We have some way to stop it in future we should make our sena.

[dkumars]

Thanks Dundi Sahib,

All these things happen due to the sub-castes, such as Panwar falls under Jats, Gujjars, Rajputs, Chamars etc.

Ik kahawat hay " Apne Moonh Minya Mithhu Banana" so everybody wants to show oneself that he in only the superman.

Bhai sahb ... may be u didn see the link i gave and the content i pasted from that site which is a post by some jat guy. Dudee ji ne keval uska ek chotta sa hissa parosa hai ... par agar aapko sach mein jaan na hai toh uski teh tak jaaiye .. bhed chaal chalne se kabhi soultion nahi milta