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    Jats in Today's World

    Jats although have proved themselves again and again in various fields but still they are perceived mistakenly. The stereotype is of no nonsense, simple friend for life who believes in hard work. Now there is nothing wrong with it but trouble arises when we get typecast. It’s similar to a good actor’s dilemma; type cast gets him work but doesn’t allow him to show his brilliance. He knows there is much more potential in him than the world knows. Hence an actor avoids it at all costs before selling out. Or if he is Shahrukh Khan, he manages to market his stereotype well.

    Part of the stereotype is convenience. It serves other communities/races well if a good Jat officer is taken as a Punjabi. The officer also doesn’t bother much to shout from the top of the roof that he is a Jat. And probably with right reasons. Mending that public view is another topic of discussion. A long and perhaps a more controversial one.

    However, here we are talking about bettering our social and communication skills that will not just improve the image of Jats but their careers and lives as well.

    It’s no hidden thing that although Jat Models have drop-dead looks but they fail to transition into acting smoothly because of their social and communication skills. They do not know how to network and to confidently deliver a line. This story gets repeated everyday in Mumbai.

    In a recent example of Olympic Bronze Medalist Vijender Singh talking to TV, I saw that he was struggling with his English. And I doubt he was asked by the reporter to speak in English since there were other athletes speaking in their respective mother tongues. Although part of his interview is adorable (stereotypical hard working village lad from a poor family), we should also realize that if he can articulate his passion well, he would be perceived as a bigger hero.

    Also, an athlete like Vijender has an exceptional talent that can overshadow the lacuna in his communication skills. But the Jats who don’t have an exceptional talent, what do they do? Obviously there is a purpose to their lives on this planet. How do they articulate and communicate that.

    I think the answer is simple and it is so obvious that we fail to recognize it. All it takes is a dialogue. Yet it’s not easy. Connecting with people on a genuine level and still being your true self takes a lot of courage. Like so many other people I have also been socio-phobic, put my head down and worked my ass off thinking that it will work my career and life out.
    However, I have not been completely right in thinking that I can be an island. So sooner we lose the inhibition to connect with as many different people, the better.

    Now you would ask that how is connecting with people helping you out. So many Jat guys in fact have told me that networking is such a dirty word. When you have a genuine dialogue with a person, the other person tries his might’s best to help you attain your best. Call it God’s will or whatever, it is a basic human nature to be understood and understand. If there is any connection between two people, it’s because of that. And since man is a social animal, a lot of his life is determined by his social skills.

    I have seen magical things happen to me as I am opening to people. Things that I desire happen on their own. Connecting with people outside of the communities will also change the perception of Jats. People will finally get to understand us and we in turn will understand ourselves better. Also when you open up, a whole new world of possibilities open up for you.

    The purpose of this thread is to thus talk about some very practical tips that have worked for you as a Jat or lets say as an individual in the society. Since most of you are extremely successful in your own fields, I have a feeling you are good at your social and communication skills.

    I know I have played the Jat card to get things done and sometimes I have deliberately stayed away from it. Lets talk about all of it and try to build up something that can be used by all of us.

    Waiting to hear from you guys.
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    Tips: Just be urself...people know when u r a fake..n its a BIIIG turn-off..
    I detest pretentious guys...

    n feel proud to be wot u r,,believe in urself n trust me, people will believe/look up to u..u entice them with ur genuineness and of course highlight the qualities JATs specially confidence, sense of humour, wits and naive disposition..

    P.S: M a social leper..a social wreck..:D,, not that I lack confidence,, but just that I feel awkward n stuck
    n others come to my rescue:p
    But like you ,when i started to open up,,i feel mixing up with others is not thaaat bad!! just needs some of ur time...
    -There are no bad people in this world..they are either good or amusing.

    ...La Vida es Bella....

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    Sumeet you are right. In case of Vijender Kumar, he has got the opportunity and it is the right time to encash it. He should now invest some money in grooming himself and developing communication skills. If he does that then he can make lot of money. He needs to hire a proper consultant to advise on such matters. But unfortunately majority of jats considers such spending as useless.
    Yoginder Gulia

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    Thumbs up JAT - a class apart !

    JAT’s in today’s world… In my attempt to come face-off with the reality, I gather above post in my perspective as follows:

    JAT’s being successful … Here I can quote numerous examples of JAT’s, who are doing well and have been greatly acknowledged irrespective of being stereotype or type-cast. Well that's beyond the subject and I won’t talk about it any further.

    JAT’s lacking in communication skills … YES that’s very much true !!! in fact this happens to be an area where we need to open up, more specifically our outlook and horizons. Having said so, please make no mistakes, because this is an area where JAT’s cannot do wonders overnight. Very simply the only solution that I can foresee is education and exposure to the world outside. We are definitely moving towards it and it’s just a matter of time when you’ll find JAT’s standing at par with any brand-shots of a specific community.

    Sumeet stressed the necessity of connecting to people outside your community… very true, and I agree 100% !!! At the same time, it must be acknowledged that he says so because he got the opportunity to do so… I mean meeting new people… visiting different places, as part of his job profile (…I guess). The fact however remains, that not everybody gets that chance.

    So now, how shall we go about it… taking this point of view a bit further socially and adding more to what many would call as stereotype rhetoric… I would say that where ever we are, where ever we go and whatever we do, we must try to strengthen JAT identity and JAT unity by fostering sustainable and community based connections among other communities. I firmly believe, this can be achieved through parallel social service initiatives, dialogue, and leadership training. It is time for us to explore a world in which JAT’s everywhere and anywhere can work together and contribute to one another. We as a community should be able to cooperate more cordially, thereby adding mutually to the greater goal of facilitating and enhancing the JAT experience. This eventually would switch people's understanding of how JAT’s worldwide can move forward and achieve greater cohesiveness as a people and/or as a community.

    Easy said then done !!! but that’s what I believe.

    On the personal front, I must confess honestly without mincing my words that there have been instances, where I wish, I would have told the world (… I mean the people around me) that YES here I am… a JAT true to his character, but I failed often times because I couldn’t express myself in my local language, when it was required MOST. :o This is contrary to the example of Vijender quoted above by Sumeet. I wish any Boswell of JAT community… may be his coach or some senior educated member in his family should have briefed/guided him in simple words, about the media that he is going to embrace, on his return from Beijing. I guess he should have simply adhered to his local language, with inclusion of his local dialect as well. There wasn't any need for him to use ungrezi at all… He surely has done our JAT community proud… as rightly said by Sumeet above… he would have done us more proud if he had articulated his passion well, indeed he would have been perceived as a bigger hero.

    From my personal experience, I would say that an educated JAT is a class apart. He is very predominantly distinguished where ever he goes and whatever he does… more such creatures are in the development stage… watch out JAT-WORLD after 10 years from now... as of now I only wish there should have been some one called Barkha Jat (Barkha Dutt) on a predominant Indian news channel, to be our brand ambassador... for rest, please check my SIGNATURES. :D
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    इस दुनिया में जाट !!!

    well sumit bhai ur right but after some time we definitly done miracle..:o
    भाई हमारी कमजोरी अंग्रेजी में चेप दी चलो में इसकी हिन्दी कर दूँ

    जाट का भाग्य हे की वो Delhi के आस पास के प्रान्तों में रहता हे, यदि वो सुदूर प्रान्तों का रहने वाला होता तो इस से भी बुरा हाल हो! यह एक शर्मीली जात हे जहा इसका अपना समुदाय हे वहां ये शेर हे एक बड़ी ताकत हे , हाँ जब भी इसे मोका मिला हे जाट ने साबित किया हे कुछ बन कर जाट कानामरोशन किया हे !

    आप सभी जानते हो ख़ुद देखते भी हो घर से दूर अपने को जाट बताने के बाद सामने वाले का जाट के प्रति नजरिया ही बदल जाता है, जितने भी जाट कामयाब हुए वो सब अपनी सोची समझी से किसने जाट को आगे बढाया हे !
    अभी जाट ने घर से निकलना शुरू किया हे, वो सिख रहा हे, सिखने के बाद देखना इसमे बुलंद होंसले तो हे ही कमी केवल बोलने की ही हे ! जब सिख जाएगा या जो सिख गए है , मुझे नही लगता जाट कभी रुकेगा \ रुकेंगे
    बस मेरे विचार से एक बार निकल कर संभलने की जरुरत हे

    आज का जाट विद्यालय में कंप्यूटर व् लप टॉप प्रयोग कर रहा हे , जब यह हमारी व् आपकी तरह मार्केट में आएगा तो छा जाएगा और हमें ये सब लिखने की जरुरत नही होगी हम जाट और आगेकी सोचेंगे !

    मेहनत के साथ साथ जाट अगर स्मार्ट भी रहे तो इसमे चार चाँद लगने वाली बात हे
    आओ हम सब मिल कर एक नए जाट समाज का निर्माण करे , जहाँ भी जाट मिले कम से कम उसे सही मार्गदर्सन जरुर दे विशेष कर बच्चों को !
    Jai Jat :rock

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    Excellent topic Sumeet and I appreicate that you covered the problem as well as few of the solution steps in one single post of yours.

    I agree to Brahm's view that in this sitution specific instance of Vijender , he would have been much better off to speak in Hindi , What are news channel translators for , they get paid for that , right ?

    Buiding on that I would say that a two pronged approach would help a lot.

    1. Confidence in whatever we have.
    2. Building on 1) and Adding new things to our reportoire.

    IF we guys speak Jat-ish lanugage , what's the harm , everywhere in the world people speak local dialects and all , and we must always keep in mind that knowing English ain't everything in life. Personal Experince , most of germans are not at all effecive communicators in English , but they dont lack any confidence , infact are prudent about their language.

    An Effective communication is not a good communication in English and realising that is perhaps the first step to go about things. We must be able to communicate what we exactly feel and think , thats utmost important before attempting to make it in English.

    I also understand that in this competitive world and coming up of all MNC's and the culture that is practised there , it is of importance to know the English as an language and also know some social skills.

    I would cite none other than mine example in that:
    Till 2005 ( my 3rd year at IIT ) , I was the usual stammerer when it came to talking with people in English language and even otherwise , in a sense afraid of people , avoiding discussions , avoiding groups of people.
    In fact situation was of the order that I used to think for at least a couple of minutes , dwell on it a lot before even attempting to ask the proffessor any question. Such was the level of diffidency ( if that's the right word ? ) , that was embedded in me.

    Cometh the 4th year and a bit of relaxation of the taxing studies , I tried to broaden my links and horizons and some of you would not believe if I say that coming online and interacting with people helped me a lot. From a Jat community on orkut and a lot of interactions there ( 4-5 hours on daily basis ) , I gained in confidence. People did appreciate my soft and simple humour , my thoughts and views , that made me gain the confidence to do the next step : Approach people.
    That changed my life , Interacting with people is probably the best one can do to gain social skills and get over the barriers that are in everyone's mind. Not only you know how other people behave ( rational at times and very irrational at others ) but you also know how you yourself fare in certain situations.

    Today I have total self confidence in approaching people , I guess I have good speaking skills ( writing skills were always OK!). Pretty comofortable in my company's global office with 40 people of 12 different countries.

    And as the author of the thread has already said , these are very important.

    Probably I would envision a thread after the conclusion of this one in which people can really help each other ( something similar to the Interview tips by DK ) to gain these very important tools of success.

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    I experienced a similar incident to the 1 neelam ji mentioned, i overheard one girl say "u know that Akanksha she is jat..." I felt so pissed off i told the girl that Im also jat and gave her a speech about what proud and successful, hardworking beautiful people we are and ended by calling her cow. A lot of the pandits seem to think we are a lower class or something, I never knew until that day. This was an indian probably brahmin girl from queenstown, south africa. I suspect she's one of those jealous, insecure type of girls who cannot appreciate a good person, as I know Akanksha, she's also from queenstown, and is a very decent, intelligent and pretty girl plus she's jat.
    Jats are amazing people, and people try to put us down many times cos they cannot accept the fact that we're better people than them.

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    Pahan puje hari mile tu mey puje pahar
    isse tu chaki bhali pise khaya sansar

    Kabir in the above lines would really have descibed the jats, who are by nature simple and practical folks. Swami dayanand said in his book satyatrpraksh that he saw the seeds of revolution only in one community in India and that was the jats. Jats by nature are simple and straight forward and complicated. What you see is what you get

    We however have our shortcomings. I have heard a saying of the banias " the day the jat stop loosing his temper, and the muslim learns maths that day will be the end of us". Not to generalize but be as specific and focused as i can possibly be. We need be more in control of our emotions. To understand emotions is one thing but to be emotional is a very negative trait, which leads to loss of valuable time and resources.

    We need to develop sambhav through the practise of vishad yog. doing our karm without attachment to the result of our actions. And lastly never trust anyone, till you have tried him over and over through a great length of time. People are hardly what they appear to be. Make yourself strong because it is easier to conqueror the world than to conqueror yourself.

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    Very nice thoughts Sumeet

    1) wood always floats irrespective of volume of is the talent(irrespective of the cast or creed)....provided it is dry.
    2) Honesty and devotion have no parallels.
    3) Human beings are blessed with tremendous virtues and those who recognize them and use them for the good of self and society..will have a special place on this planet
    4) Sustainability of core qualities while accommodating rapid changes taking place around us decides the future of an individual and a group.
    5) The group who sacrifices most for the cause of the very group will lead always.
    6) Respect for humanity and a feeling of co-existence with fellow human beings is the key to progress.
    7) Patience is the other key which leads to maturity.

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    Thanks Neelam and Piyush. As we better our Social and Communication skills, we will be taken as who we really are and not just our 'Mollad and Theth' stereotype. This has to happen as I think we are approaching the tipping point of change.

    Thanks Pravir, for your thoughts on being emotional and understanding emotions. You put it so simply and yet its so powerful. Will you elaborate a little more on it?

    As I understand, there is nothing wrong with being emotional. People at large listen to their heart while doing anything. Lets take anger as an emotion since Jats are supposed to be losing their temper. There is an upside of anger if we know how to channelize it. The world around us is not ideal and we are bound to get angry sometimes. However when you change the world with that anger, then its a good thing. That anger is constructive. Is that what you mean by the control of emotions?

    Finally thanks Dev Kaka for joining the discussion. You always have something original and meaningful to add. You have made so many points in those fifty words of yours that it took me a week to assimilate and take this discussion a bit further. Will you also elaborate a bit on them? You can write anything relevant that you might have written before. Since this is a serious thread that will be visible longer, your words would also be more helpful here.
    Last edited by sumeetmalik; October 24th, 2008 at 12:15 PM.
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    Sumeet you have aptly described the importance and need for socialising and communicating by jats in today's world. Jat by nature is introvert but once that barrier is broken jats can also be very articulate in putting across their point of view. As Anil Dalal has described how he would stammer in 2005 and now is comfortable in dealing with persons from all across the world. It is just a matter of stepping out and wonderful things will happen.

    Way back in 1964 when we entered our Engineering College we were completly lost. We were 5/6 Jats in our class and seriously took up the challenge, came out of our shells and saw that it was not at all difficult.
    It is just a mental block,start communicating in whatever way you feel comfortable improvement will come naturally. Jat by nature is very honest, hardworking, truthful and confident but lacks in communication skills and once it is aquired no one can hold a jat back. I am new to Jatland and boys I am delighted to see your concern for your fellow jats. Brahm is right that educated jat is a class apart and 10 years hence see the ********, there wil be no dearth of Brand Ambassoders.

    And Deeepshi keep it up and start mixing up, there are no boudaries.
    Joginder bhai jat boys are not only using computer and laptop in colleges but their parents are also using laptops in homes, so the World be ready JAT has arrived.
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    Thanks guys for all your inputs. There are some common threads that have emerged out of the discussion to be an effective Jat in today's society.

    Being yourself is first. We all know we cannot lie to ourselves; Maybe for a while but truth catches up sooner or later. And when it does it gets ugly. Another very important factor to keep in mind is that you have no control over how you are perceived by the other person. You can use grooming, superior and confident communication skills (as stressed by others) to be generally likeable and agreeable. But if you are putting on an act to be liked then it is a big mistake. You don't want those people in your life. Whenever I go out and meet the 'fakes' which now I can tell in a few minutes, I try to politely get out of the conversation and move on to other people. There have been so many instances that I have ignored their friends request over social networking sites. The point I am trying to make is there is no real connection if you or the other person is not being himself/herself.

    Another thing that comes up again and is confidence. What is it really? Try to think of the few moments in your life that you have been truly happy to have your life, your being. How you felt at that time is what confidence is. Next time you are interacting, think about it.

    Nobody, I repeat nobody owns you and your actions as an adult. In the west, adults are on their own much sooner than Indian kids, so I will give you 21-25 years. After that you cannot blame your life on anyone else. Life is a series of cause and effects (we might not know all) triggered by our actions and the sooner we owe up to it, the better.

    Another thing that came up is introversion. Like Mr. Dahiya said, come out of it. There is no bigger joy in this world than a true expression. Go on and tell that girl that you like her laugh (genuine compliments only!) and tell her a good Sundu or Tau joke to make her laugh again. Go and tell your mother that how much you really appreciate the small things she does for you still, and spoils you.... You must realize that whatever and however beautiful thoughts and ideas that you might have, they won't be appreciated until you put them out there. Sure it's a bit tough in the beginning since you are being vulnerable but soon you will realize that so is the person you are interacting with. After all he or she is human as well (I suppose!).

    Once again thanks for all your inputs. Keep them coming and as I pleaded in the editorial thread, keep them as 'clean' as possible. There are some other very important points that I would like to touch to keep growing as effective communicators and social beings.
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    This thread makes the discussion very simplistic.

    Bhai loogoon outside confidence does not tell what kind of person you are dealing with. I stayed for 10 days with a professor who was Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. He watched porn while his wife and daughters aged 6 and 7 just went to sleep in next room. I walked 3 miles to eat as he won't let me eat at times. I asked him to help me move to my room in Univesrity but he made threatning gestures and refused.

    He is one of the founders of a jat association in US.

    My own relatives told me to shut up about him as they wanted to use him. Yes sir and madam they said the exact words.

    Looking outside you will be duped and think he is friendly and not "fake".
    He has a good reputation in the University.
    See him outside and he is all smiley, friendly, easy going.

    Even one of his own (18 year old at that time) relatives who stayed with him for a short time tried to give his "real photo" to his uncle but his uncle would not believe him.

    One has to stay and be dependent on a person for a short time to get the real picture (may be).

    Bhaiiyoon hamare yahhan par kabhie kabhie aadmi ke umar aur usee kya phayaada ho sakta hae uske position ke base par dekh kar uska character dekha jaata hae.

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    Thanks Aman. Although we like the discussion to be simple but in no way simplistic. So here are few more thoughts on the topic. Starting off where you left.

    You are quite right in saying that we weigh the people by their age and in what way they can be helpful to us. In fact, Jat being a relatively closely tied community, it is much more prevalent. A simple example would be the awe we bestow upon politicians. I read about the auto rickshaws with 'Hooda Express' stickers behind them in one of the threads.

    I myself have come across a senior (a daughter married off) well placed Jat who would screw anything that moves. And I came across him because of family ties so that I could get some help in career. I was naive at that time to believe the person as my hero. After all he had everything. However, as you said as you get to know people more, you get to know the greyer areas. And I realized that since I had made him such a hero, the more he fell in my eyes.

    The point is that people are complex (with even more complex sex lives). Yet you need to trust them to move forward. And along the way you hope that your judgment about people gets better.
    In the other Editorial thread, Parvir Singh Dalal, wrote something beautiful and relevant and I am quoting him here.

    ‘The greatest reason for our slavery has been that our strength, compassion and love, which has led to building stable families and our deep philosophy, has also led to forgiving and forgetting very easily. We have never really punished the perpetuators of the most heinous crimes in our history. Our strength has thus become our weakness. Too much of misapplied goodness is counterproductive. One should first analyze, who he is applying his good intentions to.
    I do not know the key to success but I can tell you the key to failure and that is trying to please everyone.’

    So there is no point in losing compassion or not believing in heroes if we have been disappointed in the past (I have met some great people here on Jatland and come across some real asses too. I am sure everyone has had that journey.)

    Compassion, after all keeps us fluid. And that is what I think it’s about. To be a successful Jat in today’s society, you have to be compassionate. If confidence is outer cover, compassion is inner material. You can’t fake it. That is all by the way from Leadership and Org. Behavior 101:-p.
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    dear sumit i have only read your last comment, and you have come out as a very mature person. your comments on your hero were heartbreaking. although u have your reasons for them, everyone has flaws and they should not become an excuse to tarnish their image. after all i feel your expectations were more on the selfish side.

    remember people can come out with similar comments for u in future.
    yours praveer

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    Sumeet bhai,

    You've hit the nail on the head. Our community's inability to interact with the outside world is quite evident in my aim to help Indian Women's Wrestling Team- all of whom are from our Jat Community.

    It took a Tamil Iyer Mr. Venkat.Krishnan of Mumbai to establish contact with each one of them - Geetika, Sonika, Neha rathi etc and on their behalf communicate with the sports Ministry, the International federation of Wrestling and finally with me. Using me as a Medium, he tries to communicate with the enitre Haryanvi Jat Community through our excellent forum -

    We need to open up with other communities of our country. Thru Chat when I asked Mr. Venkat, how did he manage to establish ties with us Haryanvi Jats, his reply was, "ńs a Mumbaikar travelling by train everyday, I interact with people from all parts of our country. We mumbaikars appeal to the Human heart, which is the same in every Human being". It is this attitude which has helped South Indians and Gujarathis succeed all over the world and survive in every circumstance.

    What hampers us Haryanvi Jats is our Clannish Racial Pride in our Fair Skin, Bravery, Strong Handsome Physique and our fighting prowess. This makes us look like NAZIS OF INDIA and making other communities despise us.

    One good step is to establish friendship with people of other communities. I would even go to the extent of suggesting that we Haryanvi Jats Marry people from other communities!

    With Warm Regards,

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    There is no need of going to that extent, why it is required suppose a Jat marries a non jat and that marriage fails then? So many marriages fails,

    As per you other communities are having reasonably good relations with different communities, do they believe in inter-cast marriage or that is happening because they are marrying in other casts, Sorry, all the castes have same reservations about inter-cast marriage

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    One good step is to establish friendship with people of other communities. I would even go to the extent of suggesting that we Haryanvi Jats Marry people from other communities!

    With Warm Regards,

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    Well all Castes are great in themselves but for me Jats are different from other castes.To secure the future of our coming generation we need to refurbish the mindset of our people who are still very innocent in terms of social and economic awarness.There is no doubt that things are changing which is heartening to see but still majority of Our JAT GIRLS are not getting the desired freedom which they deserve.

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    "What hampers us Haryanvi Jats is our Clannish Racial Pride in our Fair Skin, Bravery, Strong Handsome Physique and our fighting prowess. This makes us look like NAZIS OF INDIA and making other communities despise us."

    Please please as if this is the last wish remaining to be fulfilled, the Jats as Nazis. Mind such usage. This is how exactly others want us to behave. Dont create a trap for yourself with such identities as Nazi.

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    "What hampers us Haryanvi Jats is our Clannish Racial Pride in our Fair Skin, Bravery, Strong Handsome Physique and our fighting prowess
    Hey now, where is this coming from. Jat Men and Women are more handsome than anyone else, our fighting prowess is not up for debate it has been settled once for all in the annals of history, we are stronger than other losers in India. Here are examples...
    1. Virendar Sehwag--before he came on the scene no Indian Batsman has ever scored 300 in any country, this soorma did so in pakistan our nemesis. he single handidly holds the record of scoring 300 in 278 balls. He is one of the three batsman in the world to have scored 300 twice. When he steps on the field, other teams give him the respect and they know from offset there is a very good chance they will lose this match to India
    2. It was Jat wrestlers, shooter and boxers who made this nation proud and showed the way for other to follow that we do not go to olympics to participate but to compete and win.
    3. It was men like Yuvraj Singh who socred 6x6 balls one of the few in world to accomplish this feat
    list keeps on going on...
    As far as our looks are concerned, ask some Jat men of their conquest in western countries. Our genetics are sturdier and healthier than many other races, communities of Bharat.

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