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    Jat identity after `3-5 years

    Jat identity after `3-5 years

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.
    Delhi is surrounded by Jats in 300 Km radius and even
    with new economy and few Jat leaders(Like Mr.Ajit, Mr. Chautala, Mr. Ola, etc) we don't have a National level system to produce leaders or we don't have capabilities to compete with other communities.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    Even their Lands are being acquired by big business houses at a very reasonable prices and all the mony they are getting is being cornered by private banks. What will be a Jat identity after `5-10 years when all villages will be gone or convereted in cities. They will be living like the current villagers in Delhi. Business man taking advantage and making profit.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    After Gen Malik(Khatri Punjabi) all Indian Army
    generals are or were Khatri's( Vij, Kapoor's etc.)..Why not a Jat can become a General ???


    1. Not a great Jat scientist
    2. Not a great/ famous Jat doctor
    3. Not a great Jat Businessman(except KP Singh of DLF)
    4. Not a single Jat Army general(Last 60 yrs of Independence)
    5. Not a single Jat Navy Cheif
    6. Not a single Jat Airforce Chief
    7. Not even a Delhi police commisioner
    8. Not even a National level leader few Chatraps who juts full fill their own agenda's
    9. Not even single Vice President or President
    10. How many Judges Jat community have ?
    11. Not even a great Lawyer


    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    It will be again secluded one or Army sipahi or Subedar dying for country for mere Rs 1200 with an unkown identity or Police Thula of Delhi or DTC driver conductor. We need to
    have a system to change or better future, increase our capabilties.We don't
    have any system to produce leaders, some organisation is needed for national
    level. Quality EDUCATION is a must and BUSINESS will be a future thing.


    Other hindu communities have some leaders who were defeated but still have a name in history books like Rana Sanga, Rana Pratap, Prithviiraj Chauhan etc.(One pandit called them " Haroon Huy Ki Dastan -- Hindustan).Even One PM was a Mukhbir of Britishers and he was one of the greatest PM's. Winners were always sidelined.


    All these hindu communities always and will keep on joining hands with foriegn powers to remain in power and retain wealth either by relegion name or caste name etc.They have been doing it for centuries and they will do again. Why we have to be on the other side of the fence like Jats in Rajasthan suffered and still not allowed to have a Jat CM. Freinds create wealth, try to be rich, learn the way
    new world is changing and don't be backward.

    Jat, Gujjars Ahirs just keep fighting among themselves.

    THINK and ACT.

  2. #2
    Good take this.At least some young people are aware of the dimensions of damages already caused to our cause mostly by our own people...can't blame the world at all.
    "LIFE TEACHES EVERY ONE IN A NATURAL WAY.NO ONE CAN ESCAPE THIS REALITY"

  3. #3
    future bada hi safe hai, chinta ki koyi baat nahi, aajkal ke Jat bache nayi soch ke saath aage bad rahe hain.

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    our future.

    i am agreed with sachin.
    now we jats are no more that typical jats WHICH WE USED TO BE.....we have changed a lot.
    new guns willl fire in future and u will find jats dominating in all fields.

    NISCHAY KARO FATEH APNI HAI.



    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    future bada hi safe hai, chinta ki koyi baat nahi, aajkal ke Jat bache nayi soch ke saath aage bad rahe hain.

  5. #5

    sorry dear , its not true

    on this very site (jat land) famous personalities of our community have been mentioned . so plz dont get disheartened. haan, it is also correct that they are countables. and as far as army, airforce, navy chief are concerned its a very well settled law (but cant say who develloped this law, but is very much in practice) that any person who belongs to fighter community like jat, gujjar, ahir, etc. can never be made chief of any force.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bhupinder View Post
    Jat identity after `3-5 years

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.
    Delhi is surrounded by Jats in 300 Km radius and even
    with new economy and few Jat leaders(Like Mr.Ajit, Mr. Chautala, Mr. Ola, etc) we don't have a National level system to produce leaders or we don't have capabilities to compete with other communities.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    Even their Lands are being acquired by big business houses at a very reasonable prices and all the mony they are getting is being cornered by private banks. What will be a Jat identity after `5-10 years when all villages will be gone or convereted in cities. They will be living like the current villagers in Delhi. Business man taking advantage and making profit.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    After Gen Malik(Khatri Punjabi) all Indian Army
    generals are or were Khatri's( Vij, Kapoor's etc.)..Why not a Jat can become a General ???


    1. Not a great Jat scientist
    2. Not a great/ famous Jat doctor
    3. Not a great Jat Businessman(except KP Singh of DLF)
    4. Not a single Jat Army general(Last 60 yrs of Independence)
    5. Not a single Jat Navy Cheif
    6. Not a single Jat Airforce Chief
    7. Not even a Delhi police commisioner
    8. Not even a National level leader few Chatraps who juts full fill their own agenda's
    9. Not even single Vice President or President
    10. How many Judges Jat community have ?
    11. Not even a great Lawyer


    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    It will be again secluded one or Army sipahi or Subedar dying for country for mere Rs 1200 with an unkown identity or Police Thula of Delhi or DTC driver conductor. We need to
    have a system to change or better future, increase our capabilties.We don't
    have any system to produce leaders, some organisation is needed for national
    level. Quality EDUCATION is a must and BUSINESS will be a future thing.


    Other hindu communities have some leaders who were defeated but still have a name in history books like Rana Sanga, Rana Pratap, Prithviiraj Chauhan etc.(One pandit called them " Haroon Huy Ki Dastan -- Hindustan).Even One PM was a Mukhbir of Britishers and he was one of the greatest PM's. Winners were always sidelined.


    All these hindu communities always and will keep on joining hands with foriegn powers to remain in power and retain wealth either by relegion name or caste name etc.They have been doing it for centuries and they will do again. Why we have to be on the other side of the fence like Jats in Rajasthan suffered and still not allowed to have a Jat CM. Freinds create wealth, try to be rich, learn the way
    new world is changing and don't be backward.

    Jat, Gujjars Ahirs just keep fighting among themselves.

    THINK and ACT.
    study as if you were to live forever, live as if you were to die tomorrow

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    Even having one or two great Jat scientist or politicians is not going to decide the future of our community. The question which matters a lot that whether the new (current) generation is able to carry the legacy forward or not?

    Jat has come a long way to mark their presence in the society as well as in the country and for this our elder generation (our parents) must be congratulated. It is just because of their hard work and determination that they have been able to brought a good name for the community and boosted up the confidence of the younger generation. It is just because of their work that people from other community have been taking us seriously. They have been able to mark their presence in every field and the matter of proud here is that they have achieved it without loosing the basic personality traits of the community. These are the traits that differentiate us from others and it is just because of these traits that Jat has been known as a warrior and one who has the daring to go against the wind and can face any kind of adversities. It is natural and found in every Jat. There had a big challenge for our elder generation (our parents) to take the community to the new heights and while doing so make sure that basic instinct of the community stay intact. But they did an excellent job.

    But now the question is that whether the current generation and the coming one is able to do the same. If we take a closer look around the new generation then it seems that most of the younger generation is loosing the basic traits. Most of them to dude bane ghomte reh hai.. kam dham kimi kare na..It seems that they are unable to digest the success achieved by their parents. They are becoming more proudy thereby forgetting the main goal and getting involved in unwanted activities. They have a false impression that they are super human being and forget the main thing that if you won’t work seriously and will forget your goal then it will not take much time to loose what your parents have achieved. Most of the youth in rural areas are more interested in becoming sharab mafia or recover agent rather than focusing their energy to study and other career options. and sehar ala ki to kehna hi ke

    Now in this situation only God knows where the future of our community is.
    Last edited by mukeshkumar007; October 10th, 2008 at 03:48 PM.
    “Lead me, follow me or get out of my way”

  7. #7

    Aane Wala Time Jaato ka hain

    Bhai saheb

    Chinta kerne ki koi baat nahi hain

    aane wala Time Apna hi hain

    Be determinate , Bus kuch na kuch aachaa kerne maoin lage raho
    Rabbu Panwar
    "A Royal JAT of INDIA"

    JAT=== A 3rd Eye of God

  8. #8
    need more considerations at every corner from this community....i don't know about other designations, but can tell you that why there is not even a sinlge national level jat leader, as per what i observed....

    during the election for parshad in our region, a Jat candidate 'Malik' (well known personality b'coz of his serious concerns, good attitude and many other good traits) was on campaign.....everybody (baniya, punjabi and all others except jat, though there were many who gonna favour him from other community as well) was worrying what if this person is being chosen....all others became the rivals to broke down the poll list in his favour by making unity just b'coz of the reason that they don't want any Jat person to lead them as everybody knows if a Jat anywhere took the charge there will be many changes (obviously good one).....and thus, our hope for his winning was clearly seen in advance, still the vote was given, but a punjabi got the seat...so this is how politics is played everywhere

  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    need more considerations at every corner from this community....i don't know about other designations, but can tell you that why there is not even a sinlge national level jat leader, as per what i observed....

    during the election for parshad in our region, a Jat candidate 'Malik' (well known personality b'coz of his serious concerns, good attitude and many other good traits) was on campaign.....everybody (baniya, punjabi and all others except jat, though there were many who gonna favour him from other community as well) was worrying what if this person is being chosen....all others became the rivals to broke down the poll list in his favour by making unity just b'coz of the reason that they don't want any Jat person to lead them as everybody knows if a Jat anywhere took the charge there will be many changes (obviously good one).....and thus, our hope for his winning was clearly seen in advance, still the vote was given, but a punjabi got the seat...so this is how politics is played everywhere
    Thank you Nilam Highlighting one of the main problem.
    I hope and pray more people will understand this.
    Jay Jawan Jay Kisan Jay Shaheed

  10. #10
    You are correct,,,,,,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by choudharyneelam View Post
    need more considerations at every corner from this community....i don't know about other designations, but can tell you that why there is not even a sinlge national level jat leader, as per what i observed....

    during the election for parshad in our region, a Jat candidate 'Malik' (well known personality b'coz of his serious concerns, good attitude and many other good traits) was on campaign.....everybody (baniya, punjabi and all others except jat, though there were many who gonna favour him from other community as well) was worrying what if this person is being chosen....all others became the rivals to broke down the poll list in his favour by making unity just b'coz of the reason that they don't want any Jat person to lead them as everybody knows if a Jat anywhere took the charge there will be many changes (obviously good one).....and thus, our hope for his winning was clearly seen in advance, still the vote was given, but a punjabi got the seat...so this is how politics is played everywhere

  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhupinder View Post
    Jat identity after `3-5 years

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.
    Delhi is surrounded by Jats in 300 Km radius and even
    with new economy and few Jat leaders(Like Mr.Ajit, Mr. Chautala, Mr. Ola, etc) we don't have a National level system to produce leaders or we don't have capabilities to compete with other communities.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    Even their Lands are being acquired by big business houses at a very reasonable prices and all the mony they are getting is being cornered by private banks. What will be a Jat identity after `5-10 years when all villages will be gone or convereted in cities. They will be living like the current villagers in Delhi. Business man taking advantage and making profit.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    After Gen Malik(Khatri Punjabi) all Indian Army
    generals are or were Khatri's( Vij, Kapoor's etc.)..Why not a Jat can become a General ???


    1. Not a great Jat scientist
    2. Not a great/ famous Jat doctor
    3. Not a great Jat Businessman(except KP Singh of DLF)
    4. Not a single Jat Army general(Last 60 yrs of Independence)
    5. Not a single Jat Navy Cheif
    6. Not a single Jat Airforce Chief
    7. Not even a Delhi police commisioner
    8. Not even a National level leader few Chatraps who juts full fill their own agenda's
    9. Not even single Vice President or President
    10. How many Judges Jat community have ?
    11. Not even a great Lawyer


    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    It will be again secluded one or Army sipahi or Subedar dying for country for mere Rs 1200 with an unkown identity or Police Thula of Delhi or DTC driver conductor. We need to
    have a system to change or better future, increase our capabilties.We don't
    have any system to produce leaders, some organisation is needed for national
    level. Quality EDUCATION is a must and BUSINESS will be a future thing.


    Other hindu communities have some leaders who were defeated but still have a name in history books like Rana Sanga, Rana Pratap, Prithviiraj Chauhan etc.(One pandit called them " Haroon Huy Ki Dastan -- Hindustan).Even One PM was a Mukhbir of Britishers and he was one of the greatest PM's. Winners were always sidelined.


    All these hindu communities always and will keep on joining hands with foriegn powers to remain in power and retain wealth either by relegion name or caste name etc.They have been doing it for centuries and they will do again. Why we have to be on the other side of the fence like Jats in Rajasthan suffered and still not allowed to have a Jat CM. Freinds create wealth, try to be rich, learn the way
    new world is changing and don't be backward.

    Jat, Gujjars Ahirs just keep fighting among themselves.

    THINK and ACT.
    Bhupender Ji, half filled galas is half filled not half empty, so pl have a optimistic approach
    The never-ending task : Self Improvement

  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhupinder View Post
    Jat identity after `3-5 years

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.
    Delhi is surrounded by Jats in 300 Km radius and even
    with new economy and few Jat leaders(Like Mr.Ajit, Mr. Chautala, Mr. Ola, etc) we don't have a National level system to produce leaders or we don't have capabilities to compete with other communities.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    Even their Lands are being acquired by big business houses at a very reasonable prices and all the mony they are getting is being cornered by private banks. What will be a Jat identity after `5-10 years when all villages will be gone or convereted in cities. They will be living like the current villagers in Delhi. Business man taking advantage and making profit.

    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    After Gen Malik(Khatri Punjabi) all Indian Army
    generals are or were Khatri's( Vij, Kapoor's etc.)..Why not a Jat can become a General ???


    1. Not a great Jat scientist
    2. Not a great/ famous Jat doctor
    3. Not a great Jat Businessman(except KP Singh of DLF)
    4. Not a single Jat Army general(Last 60 yrs of Independence)
    5. Not a single Jat Navy Cheif
    6. Not a single Jat Airforce Chief
    7. Not even a Delhi police commisioner
    8. Not even a National level leader few Chatraps who juts full fill their own agenda's
    9. Not even single Vice President or President
    10. How many Judges Jat community have ?
    11. Not even a great Lawyer


    *I don't know what future history we will create*.

    It will be again secluded one or Army sipahi or Subedar dying for country for mere Rs 1200 with an unkown identity or Police Thula of Delhi or DTC driver conductor. We need to
    have a system to change or better future, increase our capabilties.We don't
    have any system to produce leaders, some organisation is needed for national
    level. Quality EDUCATION is a must and BUSINESS will be a future thing.


    Other hindu communities have some leaders who were defeated but still have a name in history books like Rana Sanga, Rana Pratap, Prithviiraj Chauhan etc.(One pandit called them " Haroon Huy Ki Dastan -- Hindustan).Even One PM was a Mukhbir of Britishers and he was one of the greatest PM's. Winners were always sidelined.


    All these hindu communities always and will keep on joining hands with foriegn powers to remain in power and retain wealth either by relegion name or caste name etc.They have been doing it for centuries and they will do again. Why we have to be on the other side of the fence like Jats in Rajasthan suffered and still not allowed to have a Jat CM. Freinds create wealth, try to be rich, learn the way
    new world is changing and don't be backward.

    Jat, Gujjars Ahirs just keep fighting among themselves.

    THINK and ACT.
    Bhupinder g ur points are valid upto some extent, But still its not like that we are not capable of creating any future glory for our community. You can see in the Olympics its the jat's who makes the country proud. Even in cricket we have some good names like sehwag, praveen kumar.
    But yes in politics we doesn't have a good leader who can represent our community at national level point of concern.
    And also we have some good names in fame industry like Mallika sherawat, Randeep hooda, Miniisha lamba, Jimmy shergill.
    And in education we can clearly see the interest in quality education is growing day by day i m sure in near future we will have some good names who will make our coutry and community proud.
    Be optimistic Cheers
    Plant one tree atleast
    and pls save water and electricity

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