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Thread: 32 GB FAKE Pen Drive..Kingston...WARNING..!!!!!!!!

  1. #21
    Singpura read Singapur,,,,,,kyonki Singapur ko Singpura gaam ke logo ne hi basaaya thaa:rock,,,,,racket to uste bi aage jaa liyaa,,,,,karan ek se,,,,ke aapne Network engineer aake is problem ke upar kuchh nahi kar rhe

    Quote Originally Posted by AmitGahlawat View Post
    Kya ye racket Singpura tak pohonch gaya hai:o

  2. #22
    Jibb k ho gya merryaar.....yo "A" galti tai paachey laag gya...tu iss nai aage chepp kai nahi padh sake tha.....bhalya aapasdaari mai itna bi faayda na hove:rock
    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    Singpura read Singapur,,,,,,kyonki Singapur ko Singpura gaam ke logo ne hi basaaya thaa:rock,,,,,racket to uste bi aage jaa liyaa,,,,,karan ek se,,,,ke aapne Network engineer aake is problem ke upar kuchh nahi kar rhe

  3. #23
    bhai naraaj kyun hogya,,,,ya to hakikat se ke Singpure aalya ne Singapur basaya thaa.....puraane time mein ve rakbe di diya karte ne,,,,,,nyu e ek be Singpure aalya ne rakbe mil ge the,,,ar daakiya ne naam dhar diya Singapur,,,,,,

    yu to bhot aachha hoya ke aaj aura ki bi GK badh gi,,,,ar vo Mr. Ch. Jaglan bhai ne thread shuru karya se na Civil Services aala,,,jyaant aur bi jaruri se GK ar current affair ki baat batana:rock

    Quote Originally Posted by AmitGahlawat View Post
    Jibb k ho gya merryaar.....yo "A" galti tai paachey laag gya...tu iss nai aage chepp kai nahi padh sake tha.....bhalya aapasdaari mai itna bi faayda na hove:rock
    Last edited by sachinb; December 31st, 2008 at 11:52 PM.

  4. #24
    jaglan bhai unn pendrive aalyan nai pakadd kai koye deal final karan challya gya laage....taaki unn paisson se jaton ka bhalla ho sakewhat a noble cause
    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    bhai naraaj kyun hogya,,,,ya to hakikat se ke Singpure aalya ne Singapur basaya thaa.....puraane time mein ve rakbe di diya karte ne,,,,,,nyu e ek be Singpure aalya ne rakbe mil ge the,,,ar daakiya ne naam dhar diya Singapur,,,,,,

    yu to bhot aachha hoya ke aaj aura ki bi GK badh gi,,,,ar vo Mr. Ch. Jaglan bhai ne thread shuru karya se na Civil Services aala,,,jyaant aur bi jaruri se GK ar current affair ki baat batana:rock

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    This is also social service bhai !!

    Quote Originally Posted by AmitGahlawat View Post
    jaglan bhai unn pendrive aalyan nai pakadd kai koye deal final karan challya gya laage....taaki unn paisson se jaton ka bhalla ho sakewhat a noble cause

  6. #26
    Bhaiya mujhe pendrives ki tini khowledge nahi thi par yahan aake to muhe kafi pata chal gaya Bhai Jaglan aise hi aap gyan bantey raho

    Jaglan Bhai terrabytes ki bhi koyi pendrive aayi hai kya mrket mein?
    Quote Originally Posted by anilsangwan View Post
    This is also social service bhai !!

  7. #27
    On Serious note:D,,,I have one query,,,,

    Jaisa ki is Pendrive ke baare mein bataya gaya ki "it can store 32 GB Data in it but problem pop up when some body tries to retrieve it because the data get converted in to Images",,,,,,

    Mere dimaag mein ek idea aaya is 100 rupees aale pendrive ka sahi istemaal karan khaatir,,,,,kyu na hum nyu kaara ke usme bheetar 32 GB ki Images store kardyaa retrieve karti haan bhi Images deekhengi,,,,,,

    Bhai 6-7 Hindi ki Film store to kari jaa sake se naa,,,,,bata 100 rupeya mein baat banan laag rhi,,,

    Sangwan I think its feasible to do so,,,,can some expert through some light on the innovative idea given above by me

  8. #28
    Waaaa........kya deemag paya hai aapney, pahle dna tha ye idea,maine 80GB wali baddi si external HD khareed lee ab, kya karu uss dabbey ka,ab ye 32GB ki lele kjhe chandni chowk jana paddega ya Singpura:o
    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    On Serious note:D,,,I have one query,,,,

    Jaisa ki is Pendrive ke baare mein bataya gaya ki "it can store 32 GB Data in it but problem pop up when some body tries to retrieve it because the data get converted in to Images",,,,,,

    Mere dimaag mein ek idea aaya is 100 rupees aale pendrive ka sahi istemaal karan khaatir,,,,,kyu na hum nyu kaara ke usme bheetar 32 GB ki Images store kardyaa retrieve karti haan bhi Images deekhengi,,,,,,

    Bhai 6-7 Hindi ki Film store to kari jaa sake se naa,,,,,bata 100 rupeya mein baat banan laag rhi,,,

    Sangwan I think its feasible to do so,,,,can some expert through some light on the innovative idea given above by me

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    Sachin bhai sarvottam idea.... mein kal uss ladkey ko dhoond-ta hoon jo ki yeh pendrives bech raha tha kuch din pehle..... agar aisa hua toh mein uss se pen drive le kar iss experiment ka Proof Of Concept (POC) kal hi kar doonga....aur apni report bhi ASBP highkamaanko soump doonga....

    Yeh work-around iss samasya ka sahi samadhaan ho sakta hai...... !!! :rock






    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    On Serious note:D,,,I have one query,,,,

    Jaisa ki is Pendrive ke baare mein bataya gaya ki "it can store 32 GB Data in it but problem pop up when some body tries to retrieve it because the data get converted in to Images",,,,,,

    Mere dimaag mein ek idea aaya is 100 rupees aale pendrive ka sahi istemaal karan khaatir,,,,,kyu na hum nyu kaara ke usme bheetar 32 GB ki Images store kardyaa retrieve karti haan bhi Images deekhengi,,,,,,

    Bhai 6-7 Hindi ki Film store to kari jaa sake se naa,,,,,bata 100 rupeya mein baat banan laag rhi,,,

    Sangwan I think its feasible to do so,,,,can some expert through some light on the innovative idea given above by me

  10. #30
    भाई माहरे ऑफिस में भी आया था एक 32gb पेन ड्राइव बेचन . मेरा एक दोस्त 80gn HDD खरीदना चाहता था, मैंने उसे फ़ोन करके पूछा, भाई लेन है के, पंद्रह सो मांग रहा है, हजार तक दे देगा, वो बोल्या ले लो.
    मैंने बात की और छः सो की दो देने की बात हो गयी. वो बोल्या सर चेक कर लो, मैंने ड्राइव लगाई

    उसे फॉर्मेट किया और एक डीवीडी मूवी उसमे कॉपी की. मैं उसे पैसे देने ही वाला था, की मैंने मूवी को प्ले कर दिया. वो नहीं चली. मैंने दूसरी पेन ड्राइव में भी चेक किया, वो भी नहीं चली. मैंने नहीं ली. उसने कहा सर कल नया स्टॉक लाऊंगा.
    आज इस थ्रेड को देख कर सोची, चलो मैं बवकूफ बनने से बच गया.

  11. #31
    Praveen bhai mere khyaal se to Movie chal jaani chaahiye thi,,,,,kyonki Image store karne ke baad Image hi retrieve hogi na,,,

    Sangwan bhai is also carrying out some serious trial on these 32 GB pendrives and he is very hopefull of a positive result,,,,,shayad 2-3 din aur lagenge trial karne mein,,,,

    Sangwan,,,trial theek chaal rhe se na bhai,,,,,

    Quote Originally Posted by pmalhan View Post
    उसे फॉर्मेट किया और एक डीवीडी मूवी उसमे कॉपी की. मैं उसे पैसे देने ही वाला था, की मैंने मूवी को प्ले कर दिया. वो नहीं चली. मैंने दूसरी पेन ड्राइव में भी चेक किया, वो भी नहीं चली. मैंने नहीं ली. उसने कहा सर कल नया स्टॉक लाऊंगा.
    आज इस थ्रेड को देख कर सोची, चलो मैं बवकूफ बनने से बच गया.

  12. #32

    what is wrong with 32GB Fake drive

    Hi,


    There can be three issues regarding such fraud.

    1) Confusion with storage unit---------------------------------"b"-- bit & "B"---Byte ( 8b=1B).
    2)System Design issue-------------------------------------------Linked with project design
    3) Memory & Microprocessor design issue Chip-------- linked with Semiconductor Comp.


    Confusion with storage unit:--
    Most of us know about this that 1Byte=8bits, letter "B"(Capital) is for Byte & letter "b"(small) for bit so some online seller can make you fool.....in their ad. they can write 8Gb for a 1GB Memory..



    System Design issue:-
    What is in a USB pen drive??
    USB connector===>Microcontroller chip===>NAND memory chip
    USB connector have 4 pins( 2 for power supply( 5Volt & Gnd).. 2 pins for signal ( technically known as D+ & D-)), PC provides 5V to USB devices.
    Inside the memory chip there is a voltage regulator chip to convert 5V supply to a 3.3V or 2.5V depending on Microcontroller & Memory chip

    There can be two places of error, One Microcontroller & IInd Memory chip.
    1) Error with microcontroller (To understand this one need to know USB protocol, I m not explaing all but in small & only relevent) When u connect any USB device( nay device), Microcontroller talks with PC ,this process called Enumeration, in this USB device send data about that device, eg. what type of device, comp. name, product name, Driver location and lots of other information.. and all this data is programmable & stored in Microcontroller.. telling size of Pen drive is also part of this Enumeration. By mistake or fraud one can even show a 1000GB pen drive for a 1GB.. ...that can be happening here... 32GB fake for 512MB/1GB

    2) Error with memory Chip:-
    This is Storage where pen drive store data... one can format "FAT/NTFS" depending on Microcontroller's firmware..
    about FAT & NTFS, a OS engineer can explain better then me.....So related to this Fraud.. one can solder smaller memory & in Microcontroller Programed it a bigger value..... "That is happing here".. if some one open this fake drive & check Memory part no. Google.. that chip will be either 512MB or 1GB.... what is know to "embedded product designer"

    So to buyer of this FAKE pen drive Plz try to put small file & read back... note down biggest file u stores & also retrieved...that is actual size of ur pen drive.


    One example may clear this issue, in 2001 one my Project was "USB Data logger"..at that time there was nothing on Google search .
    I was using 256KB memory in my design ( At that time 16MB was biggest size available)... In one day I was playing with source code of enumeration process to display my name as Company name, I don't remember what I did but when I connected to PC this was showing 64MB as memory. but when I was writing to this more then 256KB , data was overwritten ( we were not using any format like FAT or NTFS) so we were lossing all information. But if one is using FAT/FTFS then ur data might be corrupt but there will be information about File, like file name, date,file size.. again an OS engineer can tell explain more on this.


    Memory & Microprocessor design issue Chip:-
    There are very rare chances of some issue regarding Semiconductor design.....very long to explain.





    In totaly non technically explanination..

    There is house 32 rooms and there is board at gate to tell what is inside room-- u can put some thing in room & write down on board.. get back & wtite there.... say that is your original 32GB pen drive.

    One fraud person made only front wall & placed 32 Gates with board ( to log information about what is inside). When you will count, u will see 32gates & you will assume that there are 32 rooms. .. but actually there is no room ( or say one room to show customers).......-- This is about a 32GB fake drive.



    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    This is really something very disappointing that we have not recieved any expert comment on this serious issue from any of the worthy member on this site and i know we have many Network experts here,,,,,,,

    Sarkaar ko is ghatna ke upar ek commission baithana chaahiye
    Last edited by ajay_kumar_g; January 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 AM.
    --Ajay--
    "Love all, trust a few. Do wrong to none"

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    Thank you so much Ajay bhai... aap ne dhoodh ka dhoodh aur paani ka paani kar diya..... maine yeh theory ghott lee hai dimaag mein... poora thread yaad kar liya... abb mein paagal nahi ban sakta pen drive k business mein... Thanks gaite bhai !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by ajaygaite View Post
    Hi,


    There can be three issues regarding such fraud.

    1) Confusion with storage unit---------------------------------"b"-- bit & "B"---Byte ( 8b=1B).
    2)System Design issue-------------------------------------------Linked with project design
    3) Memory & Microprocessor design issue Chip-------- linked with Semiconductor Comp.


    Confusion with storage unit:--
    Most of us know about this that 1Byte=8bits, letter "B"(Capital) is for Byte & letter "b"(small) for bit so some online seller can make you fool.....in their ad. they can write 8Gb for a 1GB Memory..



    System Design issue:-
    What is in a USB pen drive??
    USB connector===>Microcontroller chip===>NAND memory chip
    USB connector have 4 pins( 2 for power supply( 5Volt & Gnd).. 2 pins for signal ( technically known as D+ & D-)), PC provides 5V to USB devices.
    Inside the memory chip there is a voltage regulator chip to convert 5V supply to a 3.3V or 2.5V depending on Microcontroller & Memory chip

    There can be two places of error, One Microcontroller & IInd Memory chip.
    1) Error with microcontroller (To understand this one need to know USB protocol, I m not explaing all but in small & only relevent) When u connect any USB device( nay device), Microcontroller talks with PC ,this process called Enumeration, in this USB device send data about that device, eg. what type of device, comp. name, product name, Driver location and lots of other information.. and all this data is programmable & stored in Microcontroller.. telling size of Pen drive is also part of this Enumeration. By mistake or fraud one can even show a 1000GB pen drive for a 1GB.. ...that can be happening here... 32GB fake for 512MB/1GB

    2) Error with memory Chip:-
    This is Storage where pen drive store data... one can format "FAT/NTFS" depending on Microcontroller's firmware..
    about FAT & NTFS, a OS engineer can explain better then me.....So related to this Fraud.. one can solder smaller memory & in Microcontroller Programed it a bigger value..... "That is happing here".. if some one open this fake drive & check Memory part no. Google.. that chip will be either 512MB or 1GB.... what is know to "embedded product designer"

    So to buyer of this FAKE pen drive Plz try to put small file & read back... note down biggest file u stores & also retrieved...that is actual size of ur pen drive.


    One example may clear this issue, in 2001 one my Project was "USB Data logger"..at that time there was nothing on Google search .
    I was using 256KB memory in my design ( At that time 16MB was biggest size available)... In one day I was playing with source code of enumeration process to display my name as Company name, I don't remember what I did but when I connected to PC this was showing 64MB as memory. but when I was writing to this more then 256KB , data was overwritten ( we were not using any format like FAT or NTFS) so we were lossing all information. But if one is using FAT/FTFS then ur data might be corrupt but there will be information about File, like file name, date,file size.. again an OS engineer can tell explain more on this.


    Memory & Microprocessor design issue Chip:-
    There are very rare chances of some issue regarding Semiconductor design.....very long to explain.

  14. #34
    Ajay you have shared amazing technical info which will benefit even a non-techie like me, thanks bhai
    Quote Originally Posted by ajaygaite View Post
    Hi,


    There can be three issues regarding such fraud.

    1) Confusion with storage unit---------------------------------"b"-- bit & "B"---Byte ( 8b=1B).
    2)System Design issue-------------------------------------------Linked with project design
    3) Memory & Microprocessor design issue Chip-------- linked with Semiconductor Comp.



    System Design issue:-
    What is in a USB pen drive??
    USB connector===>Microcontroller chip===>NAND memory chip
    USB connector have 4 pins( 2 for power supply( 5Volt & Gnd).. 2 pins for signal ( technically known as D+ & D-)), PC provides 5V to USB devices.
    Inside the memory chip there is a voltage regulator chip to convert 5V supply to a 3.3V or 2.5V depending on Microcontroller & Memory chip

    There can be two places of error, One Microcontroller & IInd Memory chip.
    1) Error with microcontroller (To understand this one need to know USB protocol, I m not explaing all but in small & only relevent) When u connect any USB device( nay device), Microcontroller talks with PC ,this process called Enumeration, in this USB device send data about that device, eg. what type of device, comp. name, product name, Driver location and lots of other information.. and all this data is programmable & stored in Microcontroller.. telling size of Pen drive is also part of this Enumeration. By mistake or fraud one can even show a 1000GB pen drive for a 1GB.. ...that can be happening here... 32GB fake for 512MB/1GB



    One fraud person made only front wall & placed 32 Gates with board ( to log information about what is inside). When you will count, u will see 32gates & you will assume that there are 32 rooms. .. but actually there is no room ( or say one room to show customers).......-- This is about a 32GB fake drive. [/color]

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by sachinb View Post
    Praveen bhai mere khyaal se to Movie chal jaani chaahiye thi,,,,,kyonki Image store karne ke baad Image hi retrieve hogi na,,,

    Sangwan bhai is also carrying out some serious trial on these 32 GB pendrives and he is very hopefull of a positive result,,,,,shayad 2-3 din aur lagenge trial karne mein,,,,

    Sangwan,,,trial theek chaal rhe se na bhai,,,,,
    The Message given was "Cannot Render File"
    Same message was given when the file was copied back to HDD and then played.

  16. #36
    Jab te yo thread shuru hoya sai, sabke daftar mein bechaniye aa liye, mhaare e mein na aaye sain bass !

    Main bhi te bach lyun nakkallo se !

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    Now, that racket is exposed after this thread by Jaglan bhai.. so I think u will not see any such "bechann aala". Thanks to this thread!!



    Quote Originally Posted by sanjeevnandal View Post
    Jab te yo thread shuru hoya sai, sabke daftar mein bechaniye aa liye, mhaare e mein na aaye sain bass !

    Main bhi te bach lyun nakkallo se !

  18. #38
    ke choti si baat ka bhart pakistan masla ban dia ha ha ha ha
    pen drive b fake bana di

    boom hai ke usmain itna hanga la rhe ho tam nyu batyo

  19. #39
    Jab kharidega ar mattha pakad ke bathe ga jib patta chale ga...Ibhi to haans raha hai..pher godo mein sir deke rovega...


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    और कहते ......
    काश हम भी जाट होते........


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    Kya kisi aur bhai ka bhi aisa experience raha? I hope this thread has been helpful....so refreshing it once more so that more people can read !!! :D

    Quote Originally Posted by pmalhan View Post
    भाई माहरे ऑफिस में भी आया था एक 32gb पेन ड्राइव बेचन . मेरा एक दोस्त 80gn HDD खरीदना चाहता था, मैंने उसे फ़ोन करके पूछा, भाई लेन है के, पंद्रह सो मांग रहा है, हजार तक दे देगा, वो बोल्या ले लो.
    मैंने बात की और छः सो की दो देने की बात हो गयी. वो बोल्या सर चेक कर लो, मैंने ड्राइव लगाई

    उसे फॉर्मेट किया और एक डीवीडी मूवी उसमे कॉपी की. मैं उसे पैसे देने ही वाला था, की मैंने मूवी को प्ले कर दिया. वो नहीं चली. मैंने दूसरी पेन ड्राइव में भी चेक किया, वो भी नहीं चली. मैंने नहीं ली. उसने कहा सर कल नया स्टॉक लाऊंगा.
    आज इस थ्रेड को देख कर सोची, चलो मैं बवकूफ बनने से बच गया.

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