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Thread: Sorry not Hindus ...Religion of Jats

  1. #241
    Pot calling the kettle black is the new order in this country. No wonder it is still a 3rd world country.
    You are free to follow Hinduism, but 'a sheep calling others sheep' is hilarious. It's similar to andh bhakts of rss and bjp who are themselves what they call others. But it's ok you see what you want to and not the truth. And little do you know that I did clear nda conducted by upsc but due to knock knees i could not be selected, so out in the medical filtering. i have cleared several exams, worked for customs and excise and still working for govt of india .

    you are merely projecting. Can't save 'sheeps' who don't want to be saved. good luck

    Also, you're not the first person I have seen who is a typical 'upsc rat race fan' , I see plenty, and everything has its place , you really think I don't understand the connotations you were trying to convey through your poorly formed mumble jumble ? And peeps out of upsc are living amazing lives, get out of your well.
    Last edited by DevArbikshe; June 23rd, 2018 at 03:17 PM.

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by DevArbikshe View Post
    Who are you calling sheeps?
    No problem, people can call themselves a goat if sheep does not sound good for any trait.

    I hope people try to understand the meaning inside rather than scared of name calling.

    Thanks n Regards!!

  3. #243
    I don't want to stoop to your level of mud slinging, okay be happy, call us whatever you want, doesn't change a thing. We're humans, you can be a lioness , happy now. Good bye
    P.S. It's not my fault that you can't distinguish an individualistic thinker and a blind follower , 'sheep' is used for blind followers, get it... why it is mud slinging ?
    Quote Originally Posted by neel6318 View Post
    No problem, people can call themselves a goat if sheep does not sound good for any trait.

    I hope people try to understand the meaning inside rather than scared of name calling.

    Thanks n Regards!!
    Last edited by DevArbikshe; June 23rd, 2018 at 09:52 PM.

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  5. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by DevArbikshe View Post
    Pot calling the kettle black is the new order in this country. No wonder it is still a 3rd world country.
    You are free to follow Hinduism, but 'a sheep calling others sheep' is hilarious. It's similar to andh bhakts of rss and bjp who are themselves what they call others. But it's ok you see what you want to and not the truth. And little do you know that I did clear nda conducted by upsc but due to knock knees i could not be selected, so out in the medical filtering. i have cleared several exams, worked for customs and excise and still working for govt of india .

    you are merely projecting. Can't save 'sheeps' who don't want to be saved. good luck

    Also, you're not the first person I have seen who is a typical 'upsc rat race fan' , I see plenty, and everything has its place , you really think I don't understand the connotations you were trying to convey through your poorly formed mumble jumble ? And peeps out of upsc are living amazing lives, get out of your well.
    Well! it is always good to know variety. Thanks for sharing detailed information!

    I did not mind you calling me a sheep, because its always Marry who have the little Lamb. Wow!!

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  7. #245
    Why Jat or Jatism cannot be a religion in the near future!

    A religion is nothing but a way of life with set guidelines and procedures starting from birth to death.

    All religions of the world have developed these guidelines over a period of 100's to 1000's of years. In the absence of these set guidelines, the group of people are nothing but a barbarian tribe who do not have a set universally accepted practice or guideline. it becomes a 'free for all' tribal way of life.

    The aim of any religion is to propagate the message of God or the Wise/holy men. Jats are a a close knit race having a distinct DNA/characteristics and hence cannot accommodate people from other races. If we do accept people from different races/cultures into the newly founded religion (Jat), we would have lost our distinctiveness and if we do not accept other people into our newly founded Jat religion, we will be numerically decimated over a period of time or would become one of the oppressed minorities like the Yazidis, considering the fact that the birth rate among the Jats has fallen drastically.

    Either which ways, Jatism can never be a religion especially in the short run as we lack specific, certain and clearly outlined written code unlike other religions to guide such life events as birth, death, adoption, inheritance, etc. And in the absence of such clearly outlined written code, even if we try to be people of this new religion, we will be nothing but a group of stone age tribal people fighting with each other, each proclaiming to be right over a certain aspect of customs/code.

    We cannot grow organically at a fast pace because of the increasing trend of nuclear and small families. We cannot grow inorganically because being a race we have a separate DNA/culture and we cannot afford to get it mixed with outside DNA/Culture if we have to keep a separate identity especially because that would defeat the very purpose of having a separate religion.

    Hence, for Jats to have a separate religion, in my opinion at least as of now, would require two things:
    a. To undertake an exercise of coding a new religious law governing all aspects of our life. This will be a painstaking exercise stretching over decades because it would entail studying the various faiths of the world and imbibing the enlightened aspects from them and adapting them to our community's specific requirements.
    b. To grow organically in numbers by increasing the birth rate. There are certain faiths like the Parsis which encourage their members to have more children and certain incentives are offered to people to have more children in terms of housing, education, etc.

  8. #246
    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    I have read jaat itihas by thakur deshraj, hr had mentioned some facts like how bharams created hindu sanatan dhram and rajputs, jaat gurjaar ahir says no to hindu dhram but some gotr who joined hindu dhram qere called rajputs and they called us as shudr, with time jaat get into hindu dhram

  9. #247
    Do you personally support that jaat are not hindu,
    I support it
    Is there any chance that we leave hindu religion and live only as jaat

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