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    Sorry not Hindus ...Religion of Jats

    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
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    झज्जर के बुढया ने गर्मी सेध री से | दिमाग में जा क लागी सीधी | lime light me aana seekh ge buddhle bhi..kadde gotra vivaad ar kadde issi-2 byaan baaji

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    Rightly said bro....... today they are calling us non hindus, tommorow anything else....... haven't they heard of freedom of religion........ and these some so called Buddhijivi Jats will creat problems for whole community.
    Quote Originally Posted by VPannu View Post
    झज्जर के बुढया ने गर्मी सेध री से | दिमाग में जा क लागी सीधी | lime light me aana seekh ge buddhle bhi..kadde gotra vivaad ar kadde issi-2 byaan baaji
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    Smile ham buddhhyan gel hain !

    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    Rightly said bro....... today they are calling us non hindus, tommorow anything else....... haven't they heard of freedom of religion........ and these some so called Buddhijivi Jats will creat problems for whole community.
    ham budhhyan gel sain bhaae kise nai aanaa ho to aao na to marji !

    bujurg bandde jo karte hain sahi karte hain ! they might not have heard thousand and one thing , they might not be very intellectual people like u but it is sure that they r more intelligent !

    how ? because they r doing all these things for u people !
    1.Meflan-ch jatt di pichaan wakhree (indeed).

    2.Upon knowing the ultimate truth, the foolish become wise, and the wise become silent.

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    Watch my Youtube video for the definition of a Hindu:-

    https://youtu.be/9Ap0ipLsnuo
    Ch. Rajinder Nijjhar, M.Sc.
    First a Hindu (1) then a Sikh (2) Khalsa (3) or Nirmala Sant (4th Panth).
    Antonym of Hindu is a Fanatic Devil.
    Sikhism=Christianity over 8500 Youtube Videos - channel nijjhar1.
    Ch. Chhotu Ram Ohlyan Jatt is our tribal Pillar.
    Jatts are Shiv Sena; DAEH SHIVA VAR MOHAE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nijjhar View Post
    Punjabi - Antonym of Hindu is a *******. So, learn the basics.


    The origin of this word Hindu is from Hond or tribal identity, Jaati aur Baasi. When a stranger comes into a village, we ask him, "Ton Hunda kaun ho"? Or kiss kaa dodhh sae rae. In reply, he would tell you his Hond, identity, by telling his Jaati aur Baasi.


    Here, I tell you famous bastards. Bhagat Bidar was born of the Temple Daasi and he was not allowed to marry or possess tribal property but to devote his life for worship of Parbrahm, God, Allah, etc. Lord Krishna listened to his discourses. Jesus called such Bastards born of the Dasi "Mustard seeds" and Jesus Himself was the second Adam, an anointed Mustard Seed. In India, the bastards born of the daasis are called "Harijans". Hari is from Hari Om Shanti of the Hindus whilst in Sikhs, we have Harjan, the Bhagats.

    For you Sir: Nijjhar Ji,


    The term Hindu implied a geographic, ethnic or cultural identifier for people living in the Indian subcontinent around or beyond the Sindhu (Indus) river.
    [6] Ref.: Wikipedia; also being taught same by Educators/Teachers/Mentors.

    History of our Gotra Sangwan is not by any village name but I am also not updated with "how we became Sangwan?" . Some stories are connected with history of Rana Sanga and some with Sangu people.

    It is really disheartened to me (might be literal/ignorant for others), when you called "us" being sons of prostitute serving every village. Might that be a history during Mughal period but succeeding generation have collected history of many gotra origins and shared it via Wikipedia for anonymous knowledge.

    Yes, I agree that some might be known/called b**t**d* as IVF treatment has helped even our community well to get heir/heiress of the left property of deceased. May God bless all!

    Nobody, pinpointed on you for being so blunt and disgraceful for origin status. However, if I look on other side, I am really happy to find that we Jats have learnt to be ignorant for irrelevant cause. Respect cannot be stolen or snatched by any stronger/supreme but it is always earned even after death.

    Did not want to extend your or mine opinion on same but just can't resist myself to be silent anymore. Rest, I also do not chase anybody.

    Thanks, Neelam





    Last edited by neel6318; May 24th, 2018 at 09:54 PM. Reason: grammer check

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    Don't listen to those Moron's. They just want to be remarkable at their age they are looking for some name recognition. As one wise man once said, "Nothing is so common as the wish to be remarkable." all these leaders couldn't their own families together but they do have expertise on how to run everything under sun. They are nothing more than free loader losers.


    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    Rightly said bro....... today they are calling us non hindus, tommorow anything else....... haven't they heard of freedom of religion........ and these some so called Buddhijivi Jats will creat problems for whole community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPannu View Post
    झज्जर के बुढया ने गर्मी सेध री से | दिमाग में जा क लागी सीधी | lime light me aana seekh ge buddhle bhi..kadde gotra vivaad ar kadde issi-2 byaan baaji
    Bhai vo nahi sathiyaye, sach bol rahe hain, just look waht is happening in Haryana 35 castes vs jats , those who claim to represent hinduism are against jatts and don't forget if you read up history you would find we were not hindus originally.मैं तो थक गया हूँ जाटो के खिलाफ नफरत , ज़हर सोशल मीडिया पर देखकर। जाटो ने कितनो को बचाया , गरीबों के लिए काम किये, दबे कुचलों के हक्क की लड़ाई लड़ी और आज कोई जैन ,शर्मा वगैरह आकर उन्ही को गाली दे रहे हैं और झूठ बोलते हैं की जाटों ने गरीबो को दबाया !
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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    what is this "Kareva partha" ?
    1.Meflan-ch jatt di pichaan wakhree (indeed).

    2.Upon knowing the ultimate truth, the foolish become wise, and the wise become silent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhundpuriamann View Post
    what is this "Kareva partha" ?
    Marriage of a Widow to her dever ...also termed as Latta Udhana ,Chaddar Udhana ..etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    Marriage of a Widow to her dever ...also termed as Latta Udhana ,Chaddar Udhana ..etc
    Now that we know about this term, somebody tell me wasn't this the story of Hindi Movie "Ek Chadar Maili See" in that moview the characters are not Jats, further this custom is being adopted by many other religions including Islam specially in Punjab, Haryana, UP and Rajasthan, irrespective of religion or caste.
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    Widow remarriage is an ancient the Jat custom from Vedic times . It is referred to in the Rig Veda.


    A widowed lady , if she was of marriageable age was married to her husband’s younger brother.( devar), or someone else in the extended family.The children had full property rights.


    For some reason, as Hinduism developed, it frowned upon this egalitarian custom.

    Ravi Chaudhary


    A good article on widow remarriage in ancient vedic times was written by O P Gupta.

    Some extracts:

    The Rigveda: Widows don't have to burn
    Author: O.P. Gupta
    Publication: The Asian Age
    Date: October 23, 2002

    The eighth richa (X 18.8) specifically commands a Hindu widow to
    return alive to her home. H.H. Wilson translates: "Rise woman, and
    go to the world of living beings; come, this man near whom you sleep
    is lifeless; you have enjoyed this state of being the wife of your
    husband, the suitor who took you by the hand.



    Another
    richa, X 40.2, may come as a complete surprise to many Hindus. H.H.
    Wilson translates it: "Where are you, Ashwins, by night? Where are
    you by day? Where do you sojourn? Where do you dwell? Who brings you
    into his presence in the same place (of sacrifice) as on her couch a
    widow (brings) her husband's brother, as a woman (brings) her husband
    (to her)."





    Richa X 18.3 commands a
    Hindu widow to separate from the dead and richa X 10.8 commands her
    to return alive to her children and her home. For their own
    empowerment, Hindu women should to remember the seven richas viz (II
    17.7), (III 31.2) (X 18.3) (X l8.8) (X 40.2) and X 40.8) to assert
    and claim their status and rights.

    (O.P. Gupta is ambassador of India to Finland)
    http://www.hvk.org/articles/1002/200.html
    Last edited by ravichaudhary; August 5th, 2009 at 06:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    Now that we know about this term, somebody tell me wasn't this the story of Hindi Movie "Ek Chadar Maili See" in that moview the characters are not Jats, further this custom is being adopted by many other religions including Islam specially in Punjab, Haryana, UP and Rajasthan, irrespective of religion or caste.

    yes

    see link
    http://picturesquepicture.blogspot.c...i-si-1986.html

    The movie is based on a book by one Rabinder Bedi.

    Giving it a title- Ek Chadar maili se' (a dirty shawl), is intended to denigrate an honourable vedic and Jat custom.

    In the orthodox hindus, the widow is treated quite badly.

    Here the intention is show that this custom is followed by lower castes- tongawalas etc as so called high caste hindhus do not.

    Thus jats are of a "lower caste"., since 'high caste' hindus did not follow this custom.


    We should continue to be proud of this egalitarian custom.


    Ravi chaudhary

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    Buddhism in India decayed because of various reasons. Absence of patronage by the kings, rot within buddhist monks and monasteries, foreign invasions and the Hindu revival (military and religious). After Samrat Ashok died, decline of Buddhism had started and buddhism was finished after Harshvardan. Amongst Buddhist monks, many immoral practices crept in and these monks were far removed from the daily life of common people. North and North West India (afghanistan, pakistan, gujarat) were subjected to repeated invasions by Huns, mongols, greeks, mohammudans etc over a period of time.

    As monasteries were destroyed by invaders and monks fled, leaving the common Indian person in the lurch who just went back to his old culture as practiced for eons by his forefathers. Since the basis/foundation of our culture and civilization is Hindu Dharma, it was a natural progression.

    DD Kosambi wrote:
    Buddhism had turned Ashoka away from war to the path of peace. His edicts state that the army would henceforth be used only for spectacles and parades. The real damage came from within, and may be discerned in the report of the same Chinese traveller, though he was perhaps not conscious of what his words signified:

    "(The Buddhist scholar who) can explain three classes (of sacred texts) has allotted to him different servants to attend and obey him. ...He who can explain five classes is then allotted an elephant carriage. He who can explain six classes of books is given a surrounding escort if one of the assembly distinguish himself (in disputations) by refined language, subtle investigation, deep penetration, and severe logic, then he is mounted on an elephant covered with precious ornaments, and conducted by a numerous suite to the gates of the abbey. If, on the contrary, one of the disputants breaks down in his argument, or uses poor and inelegant phrases, or if he violates a rule in logic, they proceed to disfigure his face with red and white, and cover his body with dirt and dust, and then carry him off to some deserted spot or leave him in a ditch. Thus they distinguish between the meritorious and the worthless, between the wise and the foolish."
    Swami Vivekanand wrote:
    The aims of the Buddhistic and the Vedic religions are the same, but the means adopted by the Buddhistic are not right. If the Buddhistic means were correct, then why have we been thus hopelessly lost and ruined?
    Swami Vivekanand wrote:
    The Bauddhas declared, "Nothing is more desirable in life than Moksha; whoever you are, come one and all to take it." I ask, "Is that ever possible?" "You are a householder, you must not concern yourself much with things of that sort: you do your Svadharma (natural duty)" — thus say the Hindu scriptures. Exactly so! He who cannot leap one foot, is going to jump across the ocean to Lanka in one bound! Is it reason? You cannot feed your own family or dole out food to two of your fellow-men, you cannot do even an ordinary piece of work for the common good, in harmony with others — and you are running after Mukti! The Hindu scriptures say, "No doubt, Moksha is far superior to Dharma; but Dharma should be finished first of all". The Bauddhas were confounded just there and brought about all sorts of mischief. Non-injury is right; "Resist not evil" is a great thing — these are indeed grand principles; but the scriptures say, "Thou art a householder; if anyone smites thee on thy cheek, and thou dost not return him an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, thou wilt verily be a sinner."
    Alternate religious philosophy also contributed to the decline of buddhism in India. It was propagated by Shri Shankar acharya (Advaita Vedanta), Shri Madhav acharya (Tattvavada), Shri Ramanuja acharya (Vishisht advaita), Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (Bhakti) to name a few.

    On the Gotra subject, sometimes when we talk, we mention, "saat peedi tak yaad rakhga"(remember till your seven generations), this adage is actually given by the gotra system followed by most Hindu communities. When marrying, bride and groom side has to state the gotra of their ancestors till 7 generations and any match(of gotra in 7 generations), marriage is forbidden since people with same gotra are considered to be siblings and from the same family.

    On Dvija, Mahabharat, often referred to as the Fifth Veda (Pancham Veda), contains Bhagavad Gita where Lord Krishna bestows The Revelation on the Arjuna in the battlefield of Kurukshetra. Bhagwan Shree Krishan said,

    janmana jayate shudrah, samskarat bhavet dvijah
    veda pathat bhavet vipro, brahma janatiti brahmanah

    Translation: Every child is BORN(janam) a Shudra. By good upbringing/values(sanskaar/samskarat), one becomes a Twice-Born (dwija). By learning the Vedas, one becomes a Learned Scholar (pandit). Only by knowing the ultimate reality(Brahman), one becomes a brahmin.
    To cut the long story short, everybody is a shudra by birth. BTW, Janmashtami is on August 14th and sorry for the long post.

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    Let us understand what Hinduism is. There is good content available in Wikipedia at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

    I take following para from it which explans the version of Supreme Court of India:

    Due to the wide diversity in the beliefs, practices and traditions encompassed by Hinduism, there is no universally accepted definition on who a Hindu is, or even agreement on whether Hinduism represents a religious, cultural or socio-political entity. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:[See - Supreme Court of India, "Bramchari Sidheswar Shai and others Versus State of West Bengal" 1995]

    "When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    Laxman Burdak

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    These so called Buddhijivi Jats, should first know who is Hindu and what is Hinduism:
    (Following are the excerpts of my reply when somebody asked my credentials of being Hindu, if I believe in Arya Samaj)
    1. Hindu or Hinduism is absent from the early sacred litrature of Indian origin.
    2. The actual term “Hindu” first appeared as an Old Persian geographical term (derived from the river Sindhu), to identify the people who lived beyond the River Indus.
    3. “Hindu” became equivalent to anybody of “Indian” origin who was not otherwise belonging to a religion of Abrahamic denomination, thereby encompassing a wide range of religious beliefs and practices.
    4. One of the accepted views is that “ism” was added to “Hindu” around 1830 to denote the culture and religion of the high-caste Brahmans in contrast to other religions.
    5. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:"When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    6. Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Western religions in that it does not have a single founder, a specific theological system, a single system of morality, or a central religious organization. It consists of "thousands of different religious groups that have evolved in India since 1500 BC".
    7. Most forms of Hinduism are henotheistic religions. They recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God. Henotheistic and polytheistic religions have traditionally been among the world's most religiously tolerant faiths.
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    I agree with you.. people are publicsing Hinduism but don't even know what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    These so called Buddhijivi Jats, should first know who is Hindu and what is Hinduism:

    (Following are the excerpts of my reply when somebody asked my credentials of being Hindu, if I believe in Arya Samaj)
    1. Hindu or Hinduism is absent from the early sacred litrature of Indian origin.
    2. The actual term “Hindu” first appeared as an Old Persian geographical term (derived from the river Sindhu), to identify the people who lived beyond the River Indus.
    3. “Hindu” became equivalent to anybody of “Indian” origin who was not otherwise belonging to a religion of Abrahamic denomination, thereby encompassing a wide range of religious beliefs and practices.
    4. One of the accepted views is that “ism” was added to “Hindu” around 1830 to denote the culture and religion of the high-caste Brahmans in contrast to other religions.
    5. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:"When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    6. Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Western religions in that it does not have a single founder, a specific theological system, a single system of morality, or a central religious organization. It consists of "thousands of different religious groups that have evolved in India since 1500 BC".
    7. Most forms of Hinduism are henotheistic religions. They recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God. Henotheistic and polytheistic religions have traditionally been among the world's most religiously tolerant faiths.
    -Virender M.

  22. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    These so called Buddhijivi Jats, should first know who is Hindu and what is Hinduism:
    (Following are the excerpts of my reply when somebody asked my credentials of being Hindu, if I believe in Arya Samaj)
    1. Hindu or Hinduism is absent from the early sacred litrature of Indian origin.
    2. The actual term “Hindu” first appeared as an Old Persian geographical term (derived from the river Sindhu), to identify the people who lived beyond the River Indus.
    3. “Hindu” became equivalent to anybody of “Indian” origin who was not otherwise belonging to a religion of Abrahamic denomination, thereby encompassing a wide range of religious beliefs and practices.
    4. One of the accepted views is that “ism” was added to “Hindu” around 1830 to denote the culture and religion of the high-caste Brahmans in contrast to other religions.
    5. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:"When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    6. Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Western religions in that it does not have a single founder, a specific theological system, a single system of morality, or a central religious organization. It consists of "thousands of different religious groups that have evolved in India since 1500 BC".
    7. Most forms of Hinduism are henotheistic religions. They recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God. Henotheistic and polytheistic religions have traditionally been among the world's most religiously tolerant faiths.

    There is a word called "Hind".

    Anyone living in the land of "Hind" is called "Hindustani" but the word "Hindustani" does not state any one "religion".

    There is no religion as "Hindustani".

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    Okay, first of all this is incorrect. These customs and traditions are not unique to Jats. Most North Indian Hindu communities practise some sort of gotra exclusion. They may not be that gung-ho about it, but Brahmins, Baniyas, etc. all have their own versions of gotra exclusion. In fact, I am not sure about South India as well. What is acceptable there is that you can marry your maternal cousins (who have different gotra) but I don't know if they can marry within their gotra. Anyways, many Dravidians feel that Hinduism is not their religion as well and it was some North Indian culture that was forced on them. So whose religion is Hinduism?

    And what about all those claims about Jats being mentioned in Vedas and other scriptures as the purest race? And even if we agree to this on the manifestly incorrect assumption that our customs and traditions are not same as other Hindus, then are our customs and traditions same as Buddhists?

    Hinduism was never a religion with one book or one god or one preacher. I think it was a set of believes that the natives built over a period of time. Each area had its own set of believes and over a period of time, as people intermingled, they developed a common theme. And there were some mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata which were popular enough to be accepted everywhere giving people a common bond. But in such diverse people, you would always have different customs and traditions, as the religion never forced you to become a homogenous lot.

    Interestingly, would Khap Panchayat also give up its claim for reservations if it is now arguing that we are not Hindus? Reservations so far have been given on caste basis for backward Hindus. There have been demands on religious grounds and nothing stops us from declaring a new religion called Jatism and then demand reservations for that religion. But I guess that would be much more difficult!

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