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    Sorry not Hindus ...Religion of Jats

    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    Last edited by narenderkharb; August 3rd, 2009 at 04:22 PM.

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    झज्जर के बुढया ने गर्मी सेध री से | दिमाग में जा क लागी सीधी | lime light me aana seekh ge buddhle bhi..kadde gotra vivaad ar kadde issi-2 byaan baaji

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    what is this "Kareva partha" ?
    1.Meflan-ch jatt di pichaan wakhree (indeed).

    2.Upon knowing the ultimate truth, the foolish become wise, and the wise become silent.

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    Rightly said bro....... today they are calling us non hindus, tommorow anything else....... haven't they heard of freedom of religion........ and these some so called Buddhijivi Jats will creat problems for whole community.
    Quote Originally Posted by VPannu View Post
    झज्जर के बुढया ने गर्मी सेध री से | दिमाग में जा क लागी सीधी | lime light me aana seekh ge buddhle bhi..kadde gotra vivaad ar kadde issi-2 byaan baaji
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    These so called Buddhijivi Jats, should first know who is Hindu and what is Hinduism:
    (Following are the excerpts of my reply when somebody asked my credentials of being Hindu, if I believe in Arya Samaj)
    1. Hindu or Hinduism is absent from the early sacred litrature of Indian origin.
    2. The actual term “Hindu” first appeared as an Old Persian geographical term (derived from the river Sindhu), to identify the people who lived beyond the River Indus.
    3. “Hindu” became equivalent to anybody of “Indian” origin who was not otherwise belonging to a religion of Abrahamic denomination, thereby encompassing a wide range of religious beliefs and practices.
    4. One of the accepted views is that “ism” was added to “Hindu” around 1830 to denote the culture and religion of the high-caste Brahmans in contrast to other religions.
    5. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:"When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    6. Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Western religions in that it does not have a single founder, a specific theological system, a single system of morality, or a central religious organization. It consists of "thousands of different religious groups that have evolved in India since 1500 BC".
    7. Most forms of Hinduism are henotheistic religions. They recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God. Henotheistic and polytheistic religions have traditionally been among the world's most religiously tolerant faiths.
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
    Okay, first of all this is incorrect. These customs and traditions are not unique to Jats. Most North Indian Hindu communities practise some sort of gotra exclusion. They may not be that gung-ho about it, but Brahmins, Baniyas, etc. all have their own versions of gotra exclusion. In fact, I am not sure about South India as well. What is acceptable there is that you can marry your maternal cousins (who have different gotra) but I don't know if they can marry within their gotra. Anyways, many Dravidians feel that Hinduism is not their religion as well and it was some North Indian culture that was forced on them. So whose religion is Hinduism?

    And what about all those claims about Jats being mentioned in Vedas and other scriptures as the purest race? And even if we agree to this on the manifestly incorrect assumption that our customs and traditions are not same as other Hindus, then are our customs and traditions same as Buddhists?

    Hinduism was never a religion with one book or one god or one preacher. I think it was a set of believes that the natives built over a period of time. Each area had its own set of believes and over a period of time, as people intermingled, they developed a common theme. And there were some mythologies like Ramayana and Mahabharata which were popular enough to be accepted everywhere giving people a common bond. But in such diverse people, you would always have different customs and traditions, as the religion never forced you to become a homogenous lot.

    Interestingly, would Khap Panchayat also give up its claim for reservations if it is now arguing that we are not Hindus? Reservations so far have been given on caste basis for backward Hindus. There have been demands on religious grounds and nothing stops us from declaring a new religion called Jatism and then demand reservations for that religion. But I guess that would be much more difficult!

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    Thumbs down Probably a publicity stunt

    Seems a publicity stunt, I thought these khaps are run by some intelligent minds, sorry, I was wrong. Its like we want to be seen different from others tactic and nothing else. Never saw a khap in my area in Rajasthan, they may be existing but never heard anything about them.

    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    Never saw a khap in my area in Rajasthan, they may be existing but never heard anything about them.

    These Khaps exists in just a few district of Haryana and in a little area of western UP. Their decisions hardly makes any significance difference to the total Jat population in India.
    It's better to be alone than in a bad company.

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    narender ji, the link you've given doesn't have the content which you have posted. No mention of buddhism, divija/adivija etc in the link. Is there any other link which exactly says what you've written?

    Jhajjar. Aug 2(jansamwad): It seems that Jats have decided to fight those who recently criticizes the khap’s decision and even using the terms such as Tuglaki Farmaan for the khap’s. Today, In Jhajjar a rally was called by the pardhan’s of various khap’s to discuss the recent media reports, recently, media called the khap’s decision’s as Tuglaki Farmaan.
    The Khap says about recent gotra controversy, we (jats) are a race/tribe not a caste of hindus or anyone else and have our own customs/culture. One of the Khap member said that jats never accepted Hinduism formally. The khap further says our customs/cultures doesn’t match that of hindu’s.
    When asked about the legal aspects of the recent gotra controversy, they said that according to Hindu Marriage Act anyone can marry who are of marriageable age(except minor). According to Hindu Marriage Act , you can marry in the same gotra, and even in blood relation. But this is not permitted in our community. We strictly follow our custom/culture in our community and we have certain guidelines/rules for a valid marriage, says the Khap. We won’t allow anyone to break this custom at any cost, says one of the khap’s pardhan . They further said since we have different custom/cultures and doesn’t match that of hindus, how can Hindu Marriage Act be applicable on us. The law must protect your customs/cultures.
    This law (Hindu Marriage Act) is only 50-60 years old, but our custom/culture is about 2000 years old says the khap. We strongly condemn the media for using such words for the khap panchayat. Before saying anything the media must understand the culture/customs of our community says the Khap.

    Jansamwad/2 aug/ Parveen kumar singh

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    Quote Originally Posted by mhundpuriamann View Post
    what is this "Kareva partha" ?
    Marriage of a Widow to her dever ...also termed as Latta Udhana ,Chaddar Udhana ..etc

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    I agree with you.. people are publicsing Hinduism but don't even know what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    These so called Buddhijivi Jats, should first know who is Hindu and what is Hinduism:

    (Following are the excerpts of my reply when somebody asked my credentials of being Hindu, if I believe in Arya Samaj)
    1. Hindu or Hinduism is absent from the early sacred litrature of Indian origin.
    2. The actual term “Hindu” first appeared as an Old Persian geographical term (derived from the river Sindhu), to identify the people who lived beyond the River Indus.
    3. “Hindu” became equivalent to anybody of “Indian” origin who was not otherwise belonging to a religion of Abrahamic denomination, thereby encompassing a wide range of religious beliefs and practices.
    4. One of the accepted views is that “ism” was added to “Hindu” around 1830 to denote the culture and religion of the high-caste Brahmans in contrast to other religions.
    5. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:"When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    6. Hinduism differs from Christianity and other Western religions in that it does not have a single founder, a specific theological system, a single system of morality, or a central religious organization. It consists of "thousands of different religious groups that have evolved in India since 1500 BC".
    7. Most forms of Hinduism are henotheistic religions. They recognize a single deity, and view other Gods and Goddesses as manifestations or aspects of that supreme God. Henotheistic and polytheistic religions have traditionally been among the world's most religiously tolerant faiths.
    -Virender M.

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    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    Marriage of a Widow to her dever ...also termed as Latta Udhana ,Chaddar Udhana ..etc
    Now that we know about this term, somebody tell me wasn't this the story of Hindi Movie "Ek Chadar Maili See" in that moview the characters are not Jats, further this custom is being adopted by many other religions including Islam specially in Punjab, Haryana, UP and Rajasthan, irrespective of religion or caste.
    "Similia Similibus Curentur"

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    Widow remarriage is an ancient the Jat custom from Vedic times . It is referred to in the Rig Veda.


    A widowed lady , if she was of marriageable age was married to her husband’s younger brother.( devar), or someone else in the extended family.The children had full property rights.


    For some reason, as Hinduism developed, it frowned upon this egalitarian custom.

    Ravi Chaudhary


    A good article on widow remarriage in ancient vedic times was written by O P Gupta.

    Some extracts:

    The Rigveda: Widows don't have to burn
    Author: O.P. Gupta
    Publication: The Asian Age
    Date: October 23, 2002

    The eighth richa (X 18.8) specifically commands a Hindu widow to
    return alive to her home. H.H. Wilson translates: "Rise woman, and
    go to the world of living beings; come, this man near whom you sleep
    is lifeless; you have enjoyed this state of being the wife of your
    husband, the suitor who took you by the hand.



    Another
    richa, X 40.2, may come as a complete surprise to many Hindus. H.H.
    Wilson translates it: "Where are you, Ashwins, by night? Where are
    you by day? Where do you sojourn? Where do you dwell? Who brings you
    into his presence in the same place (of sacrifice) as on her couch a
    widow (brings) her husband's brother, as a woman (brings) her husband
    (to her)."





    Richa X 18.3 commands a
    Hindu widow to separate from the dead and richa X 10.8 commands her
    to return alive to her children and her home. For their own
    empowerment, Hindu women should to remember the seven richas viz (II
    17.7), (III 31.2) (X 18.3) (X l8.8) (X 40.2) and X 40.8) to assert
    and claim their status and rights.

    (O.P. Gupta is ambassador of India to Finland)
    http://www.hvk.org/articles/1002/200.html
    Last edited by ravichaudhary; August 5th, 2009 at 06:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aryasatyadev View Post
    Now that we know about this term, somebody tell me wasn't this the story of Hindi Movie "Ek Chadar Maili See" in that moview the characters are not Jats, further this custom is being adopted by many other religions including Islam specially in Punjab, Haryana, UP and Rajasthan, irrespective of religion or caste.

    yes

    see link
    http://picturesquepicture.blogspot.c...i-si-1986.html

    The movie is based on a book by one Rabinder Bedi.

    Giving it a title- Ek Chadar maili se' (a dirty shawl), is intended to denigrate an honourable vedic and Jat custom.

    In the orthodox hindus, the widow is treated quite badly.

    Here the intention is show that this custom is followed by lower castes- tongawalas etc as so called high caste hindhus do not.

    Thus jats are of a "lower caste"., since 'high caste' hindus did not follow this custom.


    We should continue to be proud of this egalitarian custom.


    Ravi chaudhary

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    Buddhism in India decayed because of various reasons. Absence of patronage by the kings, rot within buddhist monks and monasteries, foreign invasions and the Hindu revival (military and religious). After Samrat Ashok died, decline of Buddhism had started and buddhism was finished after Harshvardan. Amongst Buddhist monks, many immoral practices crept in and these monks were far removed from the daily life of common people. North and North West India (afghanistan, pakistan, gujarat) were subjected to repeated invasions by Huns, mongols, greeks, mohammudans etc over a period of time.

    As monasteries were destroyed by invaders and monks fled, leaving the common Indian person in the lurch who just went back to his old culture as practiced for eons by his forefathers. Since the basis/foundation of our culture and civilization is Hindu Dharma, it was a natural progression.

    DD Kosambi wrote:
    Buddhism had turned Ashoka away from war to the path of peace. His edicts state that the army would henceforth be used only for spectacles and parades. The real damage came from within, and may be discerned in the report of the same Chinese traveller, though he was perhaps not conscious of what his words signified:

    "(The Buddhist scholar who) can explain three classes (of sacred texts) has allotted to him different servants to attend and obey him. ...He who can explain five classes is then allotted an elephant carriage. He who can explain six classes of books is given a surrounding escort if one of the assembly distinguish himself (in disputations) by refined language, subtle investigation, deep penetration, and severe logic, then he is mounted on an elephant covered with precious ornaments, and conducted by a numerous suite to the gates of the abbey. If, on the contrary, one of the disputants breaks down in his argument, or uses poor and inelegant phrases, or if he violates a rule in logic, they proceed to disfigure his face with red and white, and cover his body with dirt and dust, and then carry him off to some deserted spot or leave him in a ditch. Thus they distinguish between the meritorious and the worthless, between the wise and the foolish."
    Swami Vivekanand wrote:
    The aims of the Buddhistic and the Vedic religions are the same, but the means adopted by the Buddhistic are not right. If the Buddhistic means were correct, then why have we been thus hopelessly lost and ruined?
    Swami Vivekanand wrote:
    The Bauddhas declared, "Nothing is more desirable in life than Moksha; whoever you are, come one and all to take it." I ask, "Is that ever possible?" "You are a householder, you must not concern yourself much with things of that sort: you do your Svadharma (natural duty)" — thus say the Hindu scriptures. Exactly so! He who cannot leap one foot, is going to jump across the ocean to Lanka in one bound! Is it reason? You cannot feed your own family or dole out food to two of your fellow-men, you cannot do even an ordinary piece of work for the common good, in harmony with others — and you are running after Mukti! The Hindu scriptures say, "No doubt, Moksha is far superior to Dharma; but Dharma should be finished first of all". The Bauddhas were confounded just there and brought about all sorts of mischief. Non-injury is right; "Resist not evil" is a great thing — these are indeed grand principles; but the scriptures say, "Thou art a householder; if anyone smites thee on thy cheek, and thou dost not return him an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, thou wilt verily be a sinner."
    Alternate religious philosophy also contributed to the decline of buddhism in India. It was propagated by Shri Shankar acharya (Advaita Vedanta), Shri Madhav acharya (Tattvavada), Shri Ramanuja acharya (Vishisht advaita), Shri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu (Bhakti) to name a few.

    On the Gotra subject, sometimes when we talk, we mention, "saat peedi tak yaad rakhga"(remember till your seven generations), this adage is actually given by the gotra system followed by most Hindu communities. When marrying, bride and groom side has to state the gotra of their ancestors till 7 generations and any match(of gotra in 7 generations), marriage is forbidden since people with same gotra are considered to be siblings and from the same family.

    On Dvija, Mahabharat, often referred to as the Fifth Veda (Pancham Veda), contains Bhagavad Gita where Lord Krishna bestows The Revelation on the Arjuna in the battlefield of Kurukshetra. Bhagwan Shree Krishan said,

    janmana jayate shudrah, samskarat bhavet dvijah
    veda pathat bhavet vipro, brahma janatiti brahmanah

    Translation: Every child is BORN(janam) a Shudra. By good upbringing/values(sanskaar/samskarat), one becomes a Twice-Born (dwija). By learning the Vedas, one becomes a Learned Scholar (pandit). Only by knowing the ultimate reality(Brahman), one becomes a brahmin.
    To cut the long story short, everybody is a shudra by birth. BTW, Janmashtami is on August 14th and sorry for the long post.

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    Let us understand what Hinduism is. There is good content available in Wikipedia at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

    I take following para from it which explans the version of Supreme Court of India:

    Due to the wide diversity in the beliefs, practices and traditions encompassed by Hinduism, there is no universally accepted definition on who a Hindu is, or even agreement on whether Hinduism represents a religious, cultural or socio-political entity. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:[See - Supreme Court of India, "Bramchari Sidheswar Shai and others Versus State of West Bengal" 1995]

    "When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
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    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Let us understand what Hinduism is. There is good content available in Wikipedia at

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu

    I take following para from it which explans the version of Supreme Court of India:

    Due to the wide diversity in the beliefs, practices and traditions encompassed by Hinduism, there is no universally accepted definition on who a Hindu is, or even agreement on whether Hinduism represents a religious, cultural or socio-political entity. In 1995, Chief Justice P. B. Gajendragadkar was quoted in an Indian Supreme Court ruling:[See - Supreme Court of India, "Bramchari Sidheswar Shai and others Versus State of West Bengal" 1995]

    "When we think of the Hindu religion, unlike other religions in the world, the Hindu religion does not claim any one prophet; it does not worship any one god; it does not subscribe to any one dogma; it does not believe in any one philosophic concept; it does not follow any one set of religious rites or performances; in fact, it does not appear to satisfy the narrow traditional features of any religion or creed. It may broadly be described as a way of life and nothing more."
    That is more on the side of staying politicaly correct.

    How a few decades old Law system was able to define 5000 years old civilization in to one sentence. Interesting.
    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

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    Baris acchi na hui is saal, isliye dimag main ghani garmi chad gi inke, dimag kharab ho liye, samaj ke dhekedar banana chahve se, ya phir gair hinduon se motti rakam kha li hai.


    Quote Originally Posted by narenderkharb View Post
    We are not Hindus Historic declaration by Khap Panchyats
    Jhajjar 2 August.



    In a significant development Khap heads of various khaps from Haryana Up and Rajasthan clarified Jats are not Hindus .Speaking on this occasion veteran Jat Historian Professor Bhalle Ram Beniwal who wrote a book on Jat History clarified that we were Boddhs historically a religion destroyed by onslaught of Brahmanical Hinduism .Jats always fought against this Hinduism and became Muslim ,Sikh and even Arya Samaji in protest of this Varna Vayvastha advocating religion. When Swami Dayanand Visited Haryana and tried to bring back Jats under Hindu fold ,his move was opposed by Priests who declared Jats unfit for Thread as Holy thread is only for Divija and Jats are Adivija not twice born.

    Choudhary Jile Singh Dhankhard head of Dhankhar Khap exposed design of hindutava forces when he says first Jats are called Hindus than they are called Adivaija ,which leave us to lower rank vaisha and Sudra ,Since Jats were never Vaishy so automatically becomes Sudra in Hindu fold .We have been Kashtriyas and should see game plan of Hindutava agents to degrade us.

    Speaking on this occasion another historian who authored book on Jat History demanded Minority status for Jat community .He clarified since no ceremony was held to reconvert us from Buddhism we should not be treated as Hindus and Hindu laws under which Khap of Kadians is prosecuted does not apply to us.

    Call it by any name Jat religion or Jatissm but we are not Hindus and our custom and traditions are different from their custom and traditions (gotra exclusion, Kareva partha etc..)explained a majority of Khap Bujjargs at this occasion.

  24. #20
    @Sitaran Jakhar ...

    Sitaram Ji ...Our Khap elders and people who declared this are not people like you and me ,Professor Bhale Ram Beniwal has been a learned Scholar and Principal for more than a decade. He had studied Jat history a lot and wrote a voluminous book on Jat History that is well known to all Jat Historians.

    Choudhary ZS Dhankar head of Dhankar 360 has been in army . I could'nt name a book that he didn't study .He told me ,a comment from some one made him to start this pursuit of Jat History .He was ill that day but was the first person to reach there .I have never seen such a committed Jat leader and social worker.

    Another Historian who told about our religion and Buddhist past has written so far three books professor Gehlot was an IIT professor at Kanpur and so on ....We would be exposing our ignorance if we challenge their knowledge and commitment to our community.So please take time think and than post ,subject is important and needs serious input.
    Last edited by narenderkharb; August 6th, 2009 at 01:01 PM.

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