View Poll Results: Who is The best PM of India ??

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  • Indira Gandhi

    33 25.58%
  • P V Narasimha Rao

    6 4.65%
  • Jawahar Lal Nehru

    6 4.65%
  • Lal Bahadur Shashtri

    33 25.58%
  • Rajeev Gandhi

    13 10.08%
  • Atal Bihari Vajpayee

    38 29.46%
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Thread: Best Prime Minister of India so far !!

  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    JL Nehru: He committed some grave mistakes like:
    1. Taking Kasmir issue to UN (1948) and stopping VB Patel invading Pakistan. This is the root cause of current Kashmir problem. India could not get its territories occupied by Pakistan in 1947-48.
    2. Trusting china (हिंदी चीनी भाई भाई), though this was the incident when India started to think about its very weak defense potential.
    3. Mixed economy I mean समाजवादी मिश्रित अर्थव्यवस्था

    And I agree that Nehru was also partially involved in India's partition in 1947 as claimed in newly controversial book by (Former) BJP leader Jaswant Singh. People also accuse him of power hunger.

    LB Shastri: We respect Shastri Ji for his honesty, we read about him in our textbooks how poor he was, how he managed to go to school by swimming as he had no money for "नाव", his mysterious death in "Tashkand" (whatever the spelling is) etc. etc. and we idolize him out of sympathy not for his achievements. And I do not see any big achievement by him as India's PM. His
    historical "ताशकंद समझौता" did not get India its parts Pakistan had occupied.

    (Someone might accuse me for my ? superficial knowledge but thats what I have.)
    Jakharji, it was not a no brainer or an obvious decision to invade Pakistan in 1948. Please bear in mind the circumstances. Even the army was being partitioned back then! Imagine the massacres that were taking place and then think about what an open war would have done in that situation? We shouldn't think of a war back then with current cirumstances. Think of a war with the circumstances back then. Even Indian superiority was highly questionable. It was indeed possible that Britishers would have sided with Pakistan had India declared a war. So "declaring a war" option may be quite popular right now, but I think it would have been ill advised. I'd also request you to take note of the other things I have written on Kashmir in my earlier posts (so that I am not repeating myself ).

    I agree on China and economy. I am not sure of power hunger though. Nehru was certainly not "power hungry" in the same way as current politicians are. Though he may have been ambitious. But it would be wrong to assume that he had ambitions for a dynasty- everything about the man would be actually opposed to that. If his descendants are still playing such an important role, the blame lies much more with all Indians collectively. As for partition, everyone including Nehru, Gandhi, Jinnah, Patel, Tara Singh, Mountbattens, Attlee, Churchill, Hindu Mahasabha, etc. had a role to play. It is quite a usual practise to think in simplistic terms of heroes and villains and divide these personalities as such based on our perceptions. Reality, however, is much more complex. One person who may not have wanted the partition the most would have been Gandhi, and may have still contributed the most to it.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Nehru was not the sole person responsible for it, but the captain of the ship is responsible for its direction.
    thanks kapil for the reply. respect yr stand in chosing nehru as 'the best' among the list... we cannot go back in history, but this is the direction he gave to the country (... not his fault, though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmtewatia View Post
    ... the destiny of india changed when sardar patel was denied p.m'ship from (wud be) a successfull democracy to absolute monarchy (nehru-gandhi dynasty) and to demo(n)cracy as it is in its present state.
    ! ... be BOLD in what you stand for !
    !! ... i've the simplest tastes, i'm always satisfied with the best !!
    !!! ... be yourself, everyone else is already taken !!!

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    JL Nehru: He committed some grave mistakes like:
    1. Taking Kasmir issue to UN (1948) and stopping VB Patel invading Pakistan. This is the root cause of current Kashmir problem. India could not get its territories occupied by Pakistan in 1947-48.
    2. Trusting china (हिंदी चीनी भाई भाई), though this was the incident when India started to think about its very weak defense potential.
    3. Mixed economy I mean समाजवादी मिश्रित अर्थव्यवस्था

    And I agree that Nehru was also partially involved in India's partition in 1947 as claimed in newly controversial book by (Former) BJP leader Jaswant Singh. People also accuse him of power hunger.

    LB Shastri: We respect Shastri Ji for his honesty, we read about him in our textbooks how poor he was, how he managed to go to school by swimming as he had no money for "नाव", his mysterious death in "Tashkand" (whatever the spelling is) etc. etc. and we idolize him out of sympathy not for his achievements. And I do not see any big achievement by him as India's PM. His
    historical "ताशकंद समझौता" did not get India its parts Pakistan had occupied.

    (Someone might accuse me for my ? superficial knowledge but thats what I have.)
    I agree with the bit on Shastri. Ironically, the person we know the least about, and the one who had the least possible time to leave any impact (positive or negative), is being picked the most just because of his clean image. Says something about "no news is good news" mentality . I think he shouldn't even be in the poll list by the same logic as applicable to Morarji, Charan Singh, VP Singh, Chandrasekhar, Devegowda, and Gujral; that is tenure. Of the above, some like VP Singh can atleast claim to have left a much bigger impact (Ironically, VP Singh was quite popular, especially amongst Jats, until he unleashed Mandal. He was again the one with a clean image, courtesy his revolt against Rajiv on Bofors. I wonder if he had left the office before doing a Mandal on us, he may have got a number of votes here on the same parameters as Shastri is getting).

  4. #64

    Lightbulb

    Kapil, your replies are always informative and in-depth. Its always something to learn and enhance knowledge in your posts.

    Anyways, I do apologize not including Great Ch Charan Singh's name in the list. He was a great leader and always been my fav leader as well. But in a way it became fruitful to not mentioning his name reason being If I added his name I'm sure most of the votes would have gone to his name. Please don't take it otherwise, am not questioning his greatness or popularity but being Jats & farmer's no #1 leader, most of us would vote him.

    Lets keep it in this way - Let us exclude Ch Charan Singh from the discussion, as he was a great visionary and honest politician, there was rarely any flaw in him. He was a hero and always will be. He was more than just PM, he was leader of masses.

    Ch saab Amar Rehe !!



    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    I agree with the bit on Shastri. Ironically, the person we know the least about, and the one who had the least possible time to leave any impact (positive or negative), is being picked the most just because of his clean image. Says something about "no news is good news" mentality . I think he shouldn't even be in the poll list by the same logic as applicable to Morarji, Charan Singh, VP Singh, Chandrasekhar, Devegowda, and Gujral; that is tenure. Of the above, some like VP Singh can atleast claim to have left a much bigger impact (Ironically, VP Singh was quite popular, especially amongst Jats, until he unleashed Mandal. He was again the one with a clean image, courtesy his revolt against Rajiv on Bofors. I wonder if he had left the office before doing a Mandal on us, he may have got a number of votes here on the same parameters as Shastri is getting).
    Last edited by cooljat; August 20th, 2009 at 04:15 PM.
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



  5. #65
    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    Kapil, your replies are always informative and in-depth. Its always something to learn and enhance knowledge in your posts.

    Anyways, I do apologize not including Great Ch Charan Singh's name in the list. He was a great leader and always been my fav leader as well. But in a way it became fruitful to not mentioning his name reason being If I added his name I'm sure most of the votes would have gone to his name. Please don't take it otherwise, am not questioning his greatness or popularity but being Jats & farmer's no #1 leader, most of us would vote him.

    Lets keep it in this way - Let us exclude Ch Charan Singh from the discussion, as he was a great visionary and honest politician, there was rarely any flaw in him. He was a hero and always will be. He was more than just PM, he was leader of masses.

    Ch saab Amar Rehe !!
    Arre Jitu bhai, why are u apologizing!!?? I have absolutely no issues with Ch. Charan Singh's name not being included here (And to be honest, even if he was, I won't have picked him). I find the point about "tenure" quite valid. I was just saying that Shastri too doesn't merit inclusion on the same parameter. But it is not too big an issue to raise hue and cry... This is JL forum, we are not taking an examination here...so don't get that serious bhai...:D

  6. #66
    Thanks for the support. Apology was for Jatland in general.
    Not getting serious, just wanted to clear my point.


    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Arre Jitu bhai, why are u apologizing!!?? I have absolutely no issues with Ch. Charan Singh's name not being included here (And to be honest, even if he was, I won't have picked him). I find the point about "tenure" quite valid. I was just saying that Shastri too doesn't merit inclusion on the same parameter. But it is not too big an issue to raise hue and cry... This is JL forum, we are not taking an examination here...so don't get that serious bhai...:D
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



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    This sounds good now !!! Chaudhary Charan Singh Amar Rahein !!

  8. #68
    Narsimha Rao got 2 votes
    Unbealievable for me:eek::eek::eek:
    Dream is not what you see while sleeping. Dream is that which won't let you sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakeshsehrawat View Post
    Narsimha Rao got 2 votes
    Unbealievable for me:eek::eek::eek:
    Because he is considered as father of reforms by some 'worthy' members... and also because he made 'Manmohan Singh' as FM ...... Yahi achievements thee uski !!! :D :D :D :D

  10. #70
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    Bhai Raket, come out of shock and cast your vote. I would appreciate if you take the poll and add two cents to support your views.

    Thanku!


    Quote Originally Posted by rakeshsehrawat View Post
    Narsimha Rao got 2 votes
    Unbealievable for me:eek::eek::eek:
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



  11. #71
    me too.......i vote for Indira.....
    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    I vote for Indira Gandhi !!

    Some one rightly said, She was only Male PM of India. In her tenure she faced some really hard times but it was her firm determination and strong decision making that saved the nation. She was a lady of iron will.

    Some of imp achievements of her PM tenure were -

    71' Indo-Pak war to free East Pak
    Defended Nation well in International Pressure
    Nationalization of Banks
    20 points program to eradicate poverty
    Supported RA&W n helped it to grow
    Operation Blue Star
    Pushed forward the Green Revolution

    Few good read who shed light on Indira Gandhi's tenure and achievements and also mistakes -

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3960877.stm
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/543743.stm


    Rock on
    Jit
    I dont have personality,i am mere statistics.I used to be "downtoearth". Now this is my present name. Do i possess a name, a face ,an individuality ?:rolleyes:


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    Quote Originally Posted by anilsangwan View Post
    Because he is considered as father of reforms by some 'worthy' members... and also because he made 'Manmohan Singh' as FM ...... Yahi achievements thee uski !!! :D :D :D :D
    Whatever little i have read / heard , reforms and liberalisation in Rao's time was more of a forced thing than an option !
    I am not a book reader so my knowledge is pretty limited , may be another of Kapil's essay :D can enlighten us on the same !


    I personally do not believe that a forced thing can counted as an achievement

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Says something about "no news is good news" mentality
    A couple of reasons that come to my mind ma friend! ( aka a swedish guy in our office , he keeps on saying ma friend :D )


    Lal Bahadur Shashtri is a known figure other than being a prime minister , so there is respect and acknowledgement for the same , add to that he managed to put up a clean image in his tenure as well!

    Add to that the huge bias against the negative thing , plain maths and statistics does not work , 2 + and 2 - do not add up to zero , they are probably counted as 1.5 - , this is the extent of the bias that we have against wrong things , perception of people is that skewed !

  14. #74

    An Analysis!!

    Dear Members,
    While considering the achievements of any Prime Minister or picking up the best, certain things needs to be considered. The tenure of course is one of the factors. A short tenure sometimes is better than a long tenure, for one is likely to be exposed more in a long tenure, while in a short tenure, the true character of a person is less likely to be assessed. To this effect both Mr. Nehru and Mrs. Indira Gandhi have the disadvantage, for they had the much longer tenures and hence the exposures of their weaknesses and opportunities for them to do something.
    Another most important factor that we should consider is the type of majority their party enjoyed in the parliament for that gave them the opportunity to do what they thought was right or what could be considered the decision of their own. In cases of Mr. Bajpai, Mr. Narsimha Rao, the credit must be given to them to work on a coalition government which is probably the most difficult task for any leader. It is important for them to keep the diverse (more often than not the bunch of opportunists who care more personal and party interests then the national interests) group of MPs together on a national issue and sometimes even have to compromise on some issues to keep the government in power.
    Regarding Lal Bahadur Shastri Ji, he had a very truncated tenure during which he did some excellent work in leading the nation through 1965 War, and bringing in the Green Revolution. His slogan of “Jai Jawan, Jai Kisan” really made him popular. But when we look at the real facilities his government provided to either Jawan or Kisan, is again a matter of discussion. My problem with Shastri Ji is the Tashkand Accord. Returning our captured areas in Kashmir specially the “Hazipir Pass” was his biggest blunder. May be that cost him his life. So while, the heart may say that he was the best, the mind says otherwise.
    Mr. Nehru enjoyed the powerful majority and the goodwill of the people for his contribution during the independence movement. His was the most difficult task of building a nation that had been a colony for centuries. Creating the new infrastructure, and keeping the two main groups of the society Hindus and Muslim together after the hatred of the partition was probably his biggest challenge. He started the industrialization of the country which was his best contribution. His handling the foreign policy, China War, the Reservation issue was below average I would say. I think he was too socialist and that probably did not go well in national building. He and his successors till the arrival of Mr. Rajiv Gandhi neglected probably the most important issue of “Education”. It was Mr. Rajiv Gandhi who established the national education policy. Overall I would say, to me Mr. Nehru turned out to be an average leader.
    Mrs. Indira Gandhi started extremely well, not bowing to either internal or external pressure. On the nationalization issue she even risked the division of her own party. She handled the 1971 war extremely well, though she was extremely lucky to have a brilliant person at the helm of military affairs in FM Manekshaw. My only problem with Mrs. Gandhi has been her dictatorial functioning. While she was probably the most efficient PM we have had, she destroyed the basic fabric of democracy within her own party, and criminalized the politics. Her getting her political opponent out of her way by hook or crook was probably her biggest undoing. Be it the Samastipur Kand, or bringing up Bhindrawale to tame Giani Zail Singh and Darbara Singh she ensured no ever grew up in Congress to challenge her authority. Taking the family planning issue head on was a good thing that she started. If it was not implemented in the letter and spirit that she probably intended to is another issue. But then failure of a policy is as much PM’s baby as the credit for the success of a policy. So instead of grooming the younger leadership, she curbed it and in fact instilled the culture of one person show. The Simla agreement though made the Kashmir issue a bilateral issue, but not including the clause of making all earlier resolutions on the subject null and void was failure. Further she was in much strong bargaining power then what we actually settled for at Simla. Her second tenure was marred with the Operation Blue Star. I think she was bold enough to send the army into the golden temple. People have different view on the subject, but purely from the security point of view, I think it was a right decision.
    Morarji Desai, I guess was handicapped of having an extremely diverse group of people in his party. They differed ideologically and hence the problem. There were a few ambitious people within the party and his entire tenure I would say was devoted to just keep the party together. Having the two deputy PM was the most foolish thing one could do in my opinion. Prohibition was another failed policy. His contribution was starting the “Food for Work” scheme, which was followed by successive PM’s. Since Atal Behari Ji was part of his cabinet, I am not sure whose brain child it was, but the fact of the matter is that it started in his time.
    Mr. Rajiv Gandhi truly believed in modernization. I think his first reaction to any problem was honest and for the nation. He changed his stance couple of times under the pressure of the stalwarts of his party was his weakness. Probably his inexperienced in the government was his biggest problem. He inherited a party of corrupt politicians with a lot of public sympathy. I would say to that extent he did well in his tenure. He had probably the best majority in the parliament and hence the biggest advantage. I think he would qualify for little better than average. His handling of Srilanka crisis was probably poor.
    Mr. V P Singh started on a very clean image. His opening the Mandal was a bold move, but the handling of the situation was extremely poor. I think he is the single PM whom some people probably hate. I would not like to discuss him any further.
    I think finding the right person for the right job, is one of the biggest attribute of leadership. Letting people do their job is another big quality. To this extent Mr. Narsimha Rao stands out. He was the first PM who led the coalition government to its full five year term. I don’t know he handled the Babri Masjid issue very well, or for that matter the 1993 riots. I would say opening up the economy (even if was under pressure due to balance of payment) was a big decision. Many including BJP said that he would sell the country to foreign powers turned out to be false fears. While I did not have a personal liking for the man (may be due to his appearance) as a leader he did well. He was the first non Gandhi/Nehru family PM from Congress who was also the party President and did the full tenure. To me he deserves the better rating then the most discussed.
    Mr. Bajpai probably was the most likeable PM after Mr. Shastri and probably Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. The reason is simple the clean image. He handled the Kargil well, but what after that. I would not give him the credit for the Nuclear explosion, for that program was going on much earlier. Each PM has a contribution to it with maximum credit going to Mrs. Indira Gandhi. I don’t think Mr. Bajpai handled the situation after attach on our Parliamentary very well. We moved the entire military, we laid the mines, and then we came back. One thing he did well was to continue the process started during Mr. Narsimha Rao’s time. He was very gracious even to his opponent both inside his own party and with opposition. Inspite of all this, I think to me overall he comes only after Mr. Narsimha Rao.
    I have tried to analyze each PM within the short span of space and time, and you can pick up whomever you want as the best. They all did something good and something bad. Who is the best depends on the single most factor of personal perception about the situations and their handling by these leaders.
    Again the biggest question would be how others would have reacted/performed in the situations and the majority’s some of them had? I guess all of them did a job to the best of their abilities. Overall if I have to pick up one, I my preference would be Rajiv followed by Narsimha Rao and Mr. Bajpai.
    While Mr. Manmohan Singh is a brilliant brain and a clean personality, I think being a good orator is one of the very important quality a national leader should possess. Sometimes it is very disappointing to hear the speech of Dr. Manmohan Singh. May be he is too old for the job.
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    "A person should not be judged by the nature of his/her job, but the manner in which he/she does that".

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    I think that's the only reason he avoided any sort of debate with Advani.

    Quote Originally Posted by raj2rif View Post
    Sometimes it is very disappointing to hear the speech of Dr. Manmohan Singh. May be he is too old for the job.
    -Virender M.

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    Inn andhoon mein see kaun kana raja hae?:D

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by raj2rif View Post
    Mr. Bajpai probably was the most likeable PM after Mr. Shastri and probably Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. The reason is simple the clean image. He handled the Kargil well, but what after that. I would not give him the credit for the Nuclear explosion, for that program was going on much earlier. Each PM has a contribution to it with maximum credit going to Mrs. Indira Gandhi. I don’t think Mr. Bajpai handled the situation after attach on our Parliamentary very well. We moved the entire military, we laid the mines, and then we came back. One thing he did well was to continue the process started during Mr. Narsimha Rao’s time. He was very gracious even to his opponent both inside his own party and with opposition. Inspite of all this, I think to me overall he comes only after Mr. Narsimha Rao.
    I have tried to analyze each PM within the short span of space and time, and you can pick up whomever you want as the best. They all did something good and something bad. Who is the best depends on the single most factor of personal perception about the situations and their handling by these leaders.
    Sir, very good analysis. My own views overlap significantly with yours (explained in my own detailed analysis earlier). But one thing I'd beg to differ on is the bit about the nuclear tests by Vajpayee. Agreed that the program was going on since much earlier. But the tests catered to a much bigger picture than just the nuclear program. India's defence/foreign policy was stuck in a time warp. It had stagnated over years of non-allignment, pacifist agenda, which were probably nice ideals to espouse but scored a big zero in terms of national interest. It is one thing to have ability but entirely another thing to communicate it effectively to the world. The tests served as an effective communication to the world that India had arrived on the world stage. One can pretty much divide independent India's foreign policy in pre-test and post-test eras. I am not sure how much Vajpayee had thought this through, but the strategy post tests was impeccable as well. No doubt, the tests led to international hysteria with US leading the way in terms of sanctions. But the pressure was dealt with with firm yet effective diplomacy, with Talbott-Jaswant Singh dialogue leading the way. The entire sanction business was off much sooner than anyone would have imagined and instead US started thinking about India as a strategic partner/natural ally. With the benefit of hindsight, one can say that there couldn't have been a better execution. Without exaggerating the tests' importance, one can still comfortably say that they set the tone for building a much better image of India (coinciding with rise of Indian IT companies, outsourcing, Indian professionals in MNCs, etc.), a very important asset in a globalised world. This I believe was Vajpayee's single biggest achievement. As I have stated earlier, I have my own disappointment with him for not channelizing the national euphoria from tests into more substantial achievements on domestic front, but that takes away nothing from what was achieved.

  18. #78

    Thumbs up

    Sir, i'm very fond of ur writing skills, especially the content. This analysis is well put too. However, I've got a small request. Can u please provide one line space in between paragraphs? I'm asking this because it'll help in reading long posts.

    I completely agree with this:
    Who is the best depends on the single most factor of personal perception about the situations and their handling by these leaders.

    Quote Originally Posted by raj2rif View Post
    Dear Members,
    While considering the achievements of any Prime Minister or picking up the best, certain things needs to be considered. The tenure of course is one of the factors. A short tenure sometimes is better than a long tenure, for one is likely to be exposed more in a long tenure, while in a short tenure, the true character of a person is less likely to be assessed. To this effect both Mr. Nehru and Mrs. Indira Gandhi have the disadvantage, for they had the much longer tenures and hence the exposures of their weaknesses and opportunities for them to do something.
    Another most important factor that we should consider is the type of majority their party enjoyed in the parliament for that gave them the opportunity to do what they thought was right or what could be considered the decision of their own. In cases of Mr. Bajpai, Mr. Narsimha Rao, the credit must be given to them to work on a coalition government which is probably the most difficult task for any leader. It is important for them to keep the diverse (more often than not the bunch of opportunists who care more personal and party interests then the national interests) group of MPs together on a national issue and sometimes even have to compromise on some issues to keep the government in power.
    Regarding Lal Bahadur Shastri Ji, he had a very truncated tenure during which he did some excellent work in leading the nation through 1965 War, and bringing in the Green Revolution. His slogan of “Jai Jawan, Jai Kisan” really made him popular. But when we look at the real facilities his government provided to either Jawan or Kisan, is again a matter of discussion. My problem with Shastri Ji is the Tashkand Accord. Returning our captured areas in Kashmir specially the “Hazipir Pass” was his biggest blunder. May be that cost him his life. So while, the heart may say that he was the best, the mind says otherwise.
    Mr. Nehru enjoyed the powerful majority and the goodwill of the people for his contribution during the independence movement. His was the most difficult task of building a nation that had been a colony for centuries. Creating the new infrastructure, and keeping the two main groups of the society Hindus and Muslim together after the hatred of the partition was probably his biggest challenge. He started the industrialization of the country which was his best contribution. His handling the foreign policy, China War, the Reservation issue was below average I would say. I think he was too socialist and that probably did not go well in national building. He and his successors till the arrival of Mr. Rajiv Gandhi neglected probably the most important issue of “Education”. It was Mr. Rajiv Gandhi who established the national education policy. Overall I would say, to me Mr. Nehru turned out to be an average leader.
    Mrs. Indira Gandhi started extremely well, not bowing to either internal or external pressure. On the nationalization issue she even risked the division of her own party. She handled the 1971 war extremely well, though she was extremely lucky to have a brilliant person at the helm of military affairs in FM Manekshaw. My only problem with Mrs. Gandhi has been her dictatorial functioning. While she was probably the most efficient PM we have had, she destroyed the basic fabric of democracy within her own party, and criminalized the politics. Her getting her political opponent out of her way by hook or crook was probably her biggest undoing. Be it the Samastipur Kand, or bringing up Bhindrawale to tame Giani Zail Singh and Darbara Singh she ensured no ever grew up in Congress to challenge her authority. Taking the family planning issue head on was a good thing that she started. If it was not implemented in the letter and spirit that she probably intended to is another issue. But then failure of a policy is as much PM’s baby as the credit for the success of a policy. So instead of grooming the younger leadership, she curbed it and in fact instilled the culture of one person show. The Simla agreement though made the Kashmir issue a bilateral issue, but not including the clause of making all earlier resolutions on the subject null and void was failure. Further she was in much strong bargaining power then what we actually settled for at Simla. Her second tenure was marred with the Operation Blue Star. I think she was bold enough to send the army into the golden temple. People have different view on the subject, but purely from the security point of view, I think it was a right decision.
    Morarji Desai, I guess was handicapped of having an extremely diverse group of people in his party. They differed ideologically and hence the problem. There were a few ambitious people within the party and his entire tenure I would say was devoted to just keep the party together. Having the two deputy PM was the most foolish thing one could do in my opinion. Prohibition was another failed policy. His contribution was starting the “Food for Work” scheme, which was followed by successive PM’s. Since Atal Behari Ji was part of his cabinet, I am not sure whose brain child it was, but the fact of the matter is that it started in his time.
    Mr. Rajiv Gandhi truly believed in modernization. I think his first reaction to any problem was honest and for the nation. He changed his stance couple of times under the pressure of the stalwarts of his party was his weakness. Probably his inexperienced in the government was his biggest problem. He inherited a party of corrupt politicians with a lot of public sympathy. I would say to that extent he did well in his tenure. He had probably the best majority in the parliament and hence the biggest advantage. I think he would qualify for little better than average. His handling of Srilanka crisis was probably poor.
    Mr. V P Singh started on a very clean image. His opening the Mandal was a bold move, but the handling of the situation was extremely poor. I think he is the single PM whom some people probably hate. I would not like to discuss him any further.
    I think finding the right person for the right job, is one of the biggest attribute of leadership. Letting people do their job is another big quality. To this extent Mr. Narsimha Rao stands out. He was the first PM who led the coalition government to its full five year term. I don’t know he handled the Babri Masjid issue very well, or for that matter the 1993 riots. I would say opening up the economy (even if was under pressure due to balance of payment) was a big decision. Many including BJP said that he would sell the country to foreign powers turned out to be false fears. While I did not have a personal liking for the man (may be due to his appearance) as a leader he did well. He was the first non Gandhi/Nehru family PM from Congress who was also the party President and did the full tenure. To me he deserves the better rating then the most discussed.
    Mr. Bajpai probably was the most likeable PM after Mr. Shastri and probably Mr. Rajiv Gandhi. The reason is simple the clean image. He handled the Kargil well, but what after that. I would not give him the credit for the Nuclear explosion, for that program was going on much earlier. Each PM has a contribution to it with maximum credit going to Mrs. Indira Gandhi. I don’t think Mr. Bajpai handled the situation after attach on our Parliamentary very well. We moved the entire military, we laid the mines, and then we came back. One thing he did well was to continue the process started during Mr. Narsimha Rao’s time. He was very gracious even to his opponent both inside his own party and with opposition. Inspite of all this, I think to me overall he comes only after Mr. Narsimha Rao.
    I have tried to analyze each PM within the short span of space and time, and you can pick up whomever you want as the best. They all did something good and something bad. Who is the best depends on the single most factor of personal perception about the situations and their handling by these leaders.
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    Of all the things that tax a man's patience, there's nothing to compare with a stuck zipper.

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    Meine diye gaye netao mein se 4 ka raj dekha hai
    Rajiv Gandhi
    Atal bihari
    Narsimha Rao
    and Indira Gandhi
    Indira gandhi ke time pe mein balak tha
    Narsimha Rao mujhe siraf mithigoli papolta lagya
    Rajiv Gandhi ek naujawan neta tha siraf umar se vichar se wo bhi 1947 ki mansikta rakhta tha.
    Atal bihari ke raj mein meine kuch aachi cheeze dekhi aur uske raj ke baad se development ka matlab mujhe pata laga.
    Baaki rahi baat inme se best neta ki to wo abhi aana baki hai.I wish our Prime Minister around 35 yrs. age wearing coat pent taking decisions in seconds. And after proved terrorism from pakistan won't wait for second term to blame pakistan. Fainsla hatho hath jo area cheen ar pakistan ne dab diya sab tein pehlam donuwa pe ulta lewe. Shanti warta bhateri ho li uske khoon mein ubal hona chahiye. Jammu kashmir ko India ka hissa banaye koi seprate constition nahi. Reservation ko economic basis pe kare aur wo bhi siraf 10 saal ke liye. VIP security ko max 2 body guard tak limit kare.
    Police walo ko apne area mein daily jogging karni hogi(1 hour minimum) tak unke pet kam ho. Rishwat lene wale ko dus saal saza. Jitne terrorist band hain sabko goli marne ka adesh. Do bache hote hi operation necessassry. Sarkari kamo mein siraf hindi bhasha ka istemal chahe jammu ho ya tamilnadu. Aam aadmi ke liye roti kapda makan bijli road haspatal ki suvidha de. Private schoolo mein fees sarkari ke barabar ho. Sarkari schoolo mein padhai ho. Jo master gairhajir wo sarkari naukri nahi kar sakta. Kisan ko apni jameen bechne na bechne ka hak ho. Industrial area siraf banjar jammen pe ho. Aise fainsle sunane ki himmat kisi mein nahi. kyonki usko log vote nahi denge. kul mila ke 5 saal ki dictator sarkar
    Dream is not what you see while sleeping. Dream is that which won't let you sleep

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    Quote Originally Posted by rakeshsehrawat View Post
    kul mila ke 5 saal ki dictator sarkar
    एब तो सद्दाम हुसैन भी नहीं रहा... न तो उस ने बुला लेते भाई.... सब की टट्टी बन्ध कर देता पांच साल .....हाँ बाकी चाहिए इसा इ .... लाइन पे ल्या दे इस देश ने.....

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