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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    You described it well, Samar. But perhaps you missed a imp point.
    If a amateur boxer opts for pro boxing, he automatically disqualified for Olympics, he can never participate then !
    Really? Source?

  2. #22
    I would also prefer Olympic glory more but true and serious boxing is pro boxing.
    Ali went to pro circuit after facing humiliation and no appreciation for winning a gold medal, that's a different story .. but fact is if you choose Pro boxing you can never participate in Olympics.

    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Hmm...interesting. Thanks. I didn't know they called it amateur.

    Is there any current boxer who does both? I know Muhammad Ali won gold in olympics and then moved to pro boxing circuit. But right now? Personally, I would prefer Olympic glory more. Of course, it is Vijender's choice.
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



  3. #23
    Not sure about the authenticity of the following sources, but Pradeep Sihag, no #1 pro boxer in Australia himself told me. http://www.jatland.com/home/Pradeep_Sihag


    http://www.calvinshub.com/2008/08/wh...-the-olympics/

    http://forum.boxrec.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=104513





    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Really? Source?
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by kapil.dalal View Post
    Hmm...interesting. Thanks. I didn't know they called it amateur.

    Is there any current boxer who does both? I know Muhammad Ali won gold in olympics and then moved to pro boxing circuit. But right now? Personally, I would prefer Olympic glory more. Of course, it is Vijender's choice.
    Brit. Amir Khan also managed a silver in 2004 Olympics and then turned professional. He is the quickest in modern times. Follow his fights. Far Far ahead than our Vijender. Vijender somewhere mentioned that he wanted to fight in same arena where Mike Tyson started his bouts and he would want to see Dollars showering at him. Mate, a hell of hard work out of bones and dedication.To me Akhil Kumar seems to be more promising in Professional than Vijender.



    Have a look at this video:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA9kpNRY98

    Prince Naseem was a charmer in his own style:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35_nfUftlU&translated=1
    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    Brit. Amir Khan also managed a silver in 2004 Olympics and then turned professional. He is the quickest in modern times. Follow his fights. Far Far ahead than our Vijender. Vijender somewhere mentioned that he wanted to fight in same arena where Mike Tyson started his bouts and he would want to see Dollars showering at him. Mate, a hell of hard work out of bones and dedication.To me Akhil Kumar seems to be more promising in Professional than Vijender.



    Have a look at this video:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrA9kpNRY98

    Prince Naseem was a charmer in his own style:-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D35_nfUftlU&translated=1
    You are comparing apples and oranges. Both formats have their own sets of rules and the players must be training based on those rules. Amir Khan may be a very good boxer, but doesn't mean Vijender needs to follow his path to prove his mettle. He should follow the path he wants to and if he achieves anything on that route, it is worth lots of appreciation, especially so considering from where he started his journey.

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by ranjitjat View Post
    Many congritulations to Boxer Vijender Singh to become no2 in world boxing.
    He will be no1 in the world.
    God bless him success.
    Koti -Koti Vadhai Subhkamna
    to his family- Bhiwani and India

    Vijender becomes world No. 2
    TIMESOFINDIA.COM 20 August 2009, 05:01pm IST
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    NEW DELHI: Vijender Singh who won the Bronze Medal at the Beijing Olympic Games 2008 has achieved the second ranking in the World in 75kg with a
    Vijender
    tally of 1700 points, announced International Boxing Association
    (AIBA). ( Watch Video )

    Correa Bayeux Emilio of Cuba with an aggregate of 2500 points is ranked one. Blanco Parro Alfonso of Venezuela with a tally of 1300 points is ranked third while Artayev Bakhtiyar of Kazakhstan is ranked four with a tally of 1250 points.

    In the 48kg, Thokchom Nanao Singh has been ranked fifth with a tally of 1400 pts while Olympic champion Zou Shiming of China is ranked one with 2500 points.

    In the 51kg, Suranjoy Singh has been ranked fourteenth with a total of 800 points, while Jitender Kumar has been ranked 13th with a total 837.5 points. In the 57kg Akhil Kumar has been ranked ninth with a total of 1050 points, while his compatriot Jai Bhagwan is ranked 25th with 700 points.

    In the 64kg, Manoj Kumar is ranked 2nd with 400 points while in the same weight category Balwinder Beniwal is ranked 57th with 362.5 points. In the 69kg category Dilbag Singh is ranked 28th with 550 points while in the 81 kgs, Dinesh Kumar is ranked Joint sixth with 1050 pts. In the 91 kgs Manpreet Singh is 35th with 450 pts while in the + 91kg Parveen Kumar and Paramjit Samota are 37th and 40th respectively.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/a...ow/4915427.cms
    Heartiest congratulations to Vijender......thanks dhrampal ji for sharing it

  7. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    Kapil, have a look:

    Amateur boxing

    Headgear is mandatory in modern amateur boxing
    : Amateur boxing::
    Amateur boxing may be found at the collegiate level, at the Olympic Games and Commonwealth Games, and in many other venues sanctioned by amateur boxing associations. Amateur boxing has a point scoring system that measures the number of clean blows landed rather than physical damage. Bouts consist of three rounds of three minutes in the Olympic and Commonwealth Games, and three rounds of two minutes in a national ABA (Amateur Boxing Association) bout, each with a one-minute interval between rounds

    Professional Boxing::

    Professional bouts are usually much longer than amateur bouts, typically ranging from ten to twelve rounds, though four round fights are common for less experienced fighters or club fighters. There are also some two-[14] and three-round professional bouts[15], especially in Australia. Through the early twentieth century, it was common for fights to have unlimited rounds, ending only when one fighter quit, benefiting high-energy fighters like Jack Dempsey. Fifteen rounds remained the internationally recognized limit for championship fights for most of the twentieth century until the early 1980s, when the death of boxer Duk Koo Kim reduced the limit to twelve.

    Headgear is not permitted in professional bouts, and boxers are generally allowed to take much more punishment before a fight is halted


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing

    Samar, you have explained well. Both type of boxing have their +ve and -ve. But I think win medal in Olympics, Commonwealth is more important than playing professional boxing. Whatever Vijender has achieved till now is superb. He is from a village background and his father is a bus conductor.
    I thinks it's better Vijender continue in amature boxing and bring Gold in London Olympics

  8. #28
    Samar let me tell u one thing. If Vijender enters Professional boxing then there would be many here on Jatland and outside who would accuse him of running after money and not fighting for motherland, etc etc. Those accusations would be worth a sh*t but Im sure many (and maybe u too) would talk this rubbish. Irrespective of what people think about him, let's leave it for Vijender to decide. He would not decide on what people want and would rather follow his heart. Whatever he has achieved in his field is worth appreciation. Terming his ranking a "doesnt matter" certainly is dismissing all his hard work.... and this is so very wrong.

    Many congratulations to Vijender and I hope he becomes the best in his chosen field.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkadian View Post
    Amature and Professional boxing is polls apart. I hope members understand the difference. I am more keen to see him in Professional endeavors. Amature ranking is just okay, doesnt matter.
    Of all the things that tax a man's patience, there's nothing to compare with a stuck zipper.

  9. #29
    That's the point!
    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    If a amateur boxer opts for pro boxing, he automatically disqualified for Olympics, he can never participate then !
    Of all the things that tax a man's patience, there's nothing to compare with a stuck zipper.

  10. #30
    Yes. Cassius Clay threw his Olympic Gold won in Rome'1960 into Ohio river. I read this in one of the chapters in the CBSE English literature book in class 11 or 12. He was so much depressed with racial discrimination in his country US that he vowed never to represent US in Olympics again and so chose to fight in Professional circuit. A couple of years later he changed his religion and accepted a new name Muhammed Ali. More can be read in his autobiography.
    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post

    Ali went to pro circuit after facing humiliation and no appreciation for winning a gold medal, that's a different story .. but fact is if you choose Pro boxing you can never participate in Olympics.
    Of all the things that tax a man's patience, there's nothing to compare with a stuck zipper.

  11. #31
    Many Many Congratulations to Vijender .
    'Everything passes. Everything changes. So I should just do what I think I should do'

  12. #32

    Exclamation Vijender is world No.1

    See the link

    http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/spor...9_5825876.html

    Keep rocking Vijender!! :rock:rock
    A350Xwb - Shaping Efficiency!

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by malikdeepak1 View Post
    See the link

    http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/spor...9_5825876.html

    Keep rocking Vijender!! :rock:rock
    this guy will surely go much much ahead. proud of this felow jat bro.

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    धूमा था दिया भाई कालुवासिये ने ...... शाबाश बीजू ...

  15. #35

    Royal Invitation by Head-of-State Queen Elizabeth(Britain)

    Khushkhabri...

    A Jat boxer , none other than our Vijender Singh Beniwal being invited by Queen ElizabethII of Britain along
    with his proud father, as royal guest for a luncheon meeting.



    Saare India ne khuvaan aala HARYANA
    Iss baar london aala ke shahi pakwaan dakaarenga.


    source: Haryana News Channel

  16. #36
    Kudos to Vijender Singh on winning Commonwealth boxing gold. He is getting back on track once again. This gold will boost his morale.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/s...ow/5694631.cms

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by anilsangwan View Post
    धूमा था दिया भाई कालुवासिये ने ...... शाबाश बीजू ...
    Dhooma to thaan e laag rehya hai ibbe...daatyya nahi hai..

  18. #38
    The boy next door has made all of us proud. But he made us - "the humble Bhiwani walahs" - more proud by bringing Bhiwani into limelight. Congratulations to this son of the soil.

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