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    Lightbulb Sugar Cane Pricing Issue, Your views ! ..

    Hi All,


    Its quite strange n' disappointing to see that nobody is paying heeds to recent Sugar Cane Pricing Policy amendment n' afterwards rollback issue here on Jatland.

    Looks like we are busy with leg pulling and having fun in worthless gossip n' all that, I feel this is very much important issue related to our Farmer brothers .. :rolleyes:

    Latest update on the very issue is Government has decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills.

    Govt move on sugarcane deadlock, opposition satisfied --

    " .. Bowing to Opposition pressure and to resolve the political deadlock, Government decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills .. "

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/go...isfied/544186/

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    Let us all seriously discuss here about the very issue and other related to Farmers n Farming.


    Regards,
    Jit
    .. " Until Lions have their historians, tales of the hunt shall always glorify the hunter! " ..



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    Drama inacted by Soniya Gandhi.Tiketh is playing in her hands.

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    PM mr singh a Economist, really a surprising...
    we have world's most experience PM. he has ths pricing\ fiscal policy........
    37rs\kg sugar.......... wht will happen in coming time...:rolleyes:
    Thanks & Regards,

    Anil Jakhar
    jakhar.anilk@gmail.com
    +91 93143 91300
    Birodi badi \ Nawal garh, Fatehpur Shekhawati, Rajasthan, India


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    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    Hi All,


    Its quite strange n' disappointing to see that nobody is paying heeds to recent Sugar Cane Pricing Policy amendment n' afterwards rollback issue here on Jatland.

    Looks like we are busy with leg pulling and having fun in worthless gossip n' all that, I feel this is very much important issue related to our Farmer brothers .. :rolleyes:

    Latest update on the very issue is Government has decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills.

    Govt move on sugarcane deadlock, opposition satisfied --

    " .. Bowing to Opposition pressure and to resolve the political deadlock, Government decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills .. "

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/go...isfied/544186/

    --

    Let us all seriously discuss here about the very issue and other related to Farmers n Farming.


    Regards,
    Jit
    JIt you have started a nice topic.....It should be discussed in positive sense
    Coming to topic, Since long time, farmers are protesting against sugarcane prices offered by the government. One side it looks nice that finally government is paying attention to the issue.
    But if we look closely government is taking step after opposition created a huge drama on the 1st day of winter session in the assembly. It looks, even opposition doesn't look that much serious. They want to utilize this as political issue. If BJP would have been serious they should support the farmers earlier and they should discuss with positively inside assembly rather than creating drama. It looks like both wants to gain cheap publicity. Real tragedy of our Indian political system.

    Still whatever is the reality, government is finally taking steps...That's truth.Lets hope it will bring justice to poor farmers....This policy will not remain only on paper like many other policies of government.......

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    the way opposition has supproted farmers it is interesting par piche ka khel to vote ka hi hai. yakeen nahi hota jaha itne sare log farmers ke hith ke baat karte ho waha hazaro farmers suicide kaise kar sakte hai.sab golmaal hai.sarkar nai dhyaan diya kuiki kisan sarkar ke sarr par chad ke bhett gaye sari delhi choke kar di.

    In UP private sugar mills are ready to pay rs 25 above the price set by government and it is quite higher to price tht was studied by expert group which gave report on price of sugarcane.If farmers will get the price wht they are demanding the price of sugar will never come down from 35 kgs as raw material willl be costly.


    last year when sugar was around rs 17 -18 per kg then sugarcane price was 140 now farmers are saying to double cane price in ratio with market price of sugar.though it seems to be logical but not in interest of the commmon people so government is in a fix .lets see wht happens.

    rahi baat kisano ki to bhai hum sare jat hai to kisano ka hi support karenge

    jai ram ji ki jai jawan jai kisan
    Last edited by shekharjat; November 20th, 2009 at 11:53 PM.

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    Bilkul sahee kaha Jit .. jatland ke logo par abhi haryana ke assembly elections ka hangover hai ..

    well at last centre ko jhukna pada .. aur apne chote chaudhary sahab ajit singh ka shikhnja kaam aaya..

    abhi 2 din pehle ibn pe discussu=ion chal raha thaa kisonao ki ratafs e ajit singh aur centre ki taraf se manish tiwari tha..

    Ajit ne bahut hi tactful way main farmers ko defend kiya ..

    aur rajdeep sardesai koi bhi khare ekhotee suna dee.. yeh apne mann main ghana journalist banta hai...

    Ajit s epoocha aap yeh agitaion bade kisano ko faayda pahucnhane ke liye kar rahe ho .. Ajit en jawaab diya - bhai tum kaunsi dunya main ho rehte ho 50% s ejyaada kisano ke paas muhksils e 4 hectra jameen hai..

    jawaab sunne ke baad rajdeep ke face dekhan layak tha...

    vais toh kabhi kabhi lagta hai shivsena ke workers ne theke hi kiyaa yeh aajkal ka english media sachayee se koson door rehta hai..
    aur congress ke hathon main khelta hai...











    Quote Originally Posted by cooljat View Post
    Hi All,


    Its quite strange n' disappointing to see that nobody is paying heeds to recent Sugar Cane Pricing Policy amendment n' afterwards rollback issue here on Jatland.

    Looks like we are busy with leg pulling and having fun in worthless gossip n' all that, I feel this is very much important issue related to our Farmer brothers .. :rolleyes:

    Latest update on the very issue is Government has decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills.

    Govt move on sugarcane deadlock, opposition satisfied --

    " .. Bowing to Opposition pressure and to resolve the political deadlock, Government decided to bring forward a bill that will shift the burden of certain payments to farmers on sugarcane purchase from state governments to mills .. "

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/go...isfied/544186/

    --

    Let us all seriously discuss here about the very issue and other related to Farmers n Farming.


    Regards,
    Jit
    'Anything is Possible '

    ' Just do it '

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    you are right mr jit

    there is nobody taking care of framers
    1. our agriculture minister is playing in hands of powerful maharashtra sugar lobby.He seems to be agent of those lobby
    2. I am deeply disappointed that government has no time for farmers SUCH THAT ORDINANACE IS PASSED WITHOUT ANY DISSCUSSION IN LOK SABHA.
    3. all political parties do not give any time to agitating farmers four more than 4 months but when lok sabha begins they show there sampthy towards farmers
    4. soniya ji , manmohanji, bjp, samajwadi party has time to meet tatas ,ambanis,gadrejs,adanis but not farmers
    :tamatar
    because they create these wealthy people which rules this country and rest are puppet .

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    I am telling solution!!

    "The problem is becoz GOVT have a curb/Control on price of FARMER's PRODUCE." -- The main Culprit.
    Milk Farmers Grounding milk in Europe in OCT 2009
    No where else there is such a restriction ..
    See industries output...
    Residential House's rates...

    All is free for market to decide...lest Agriculture Produce!

    FARMERS must & must ASK for freehold , no Govt interfernce..
    Kya toothpaste, Tea, Mineral Water ..essential needs ka item nahin hai....chai kya Ghari nahin peeta?

    Sirf 200 ka rate gande ka..ya 250 ka....then again an agitation ...who knows for next fasal'....

    Ek baari main ..ask...FREEHOLD.
    Roz roz ke chakkar te bache ge kisan

    Jisne produce kiya..voh teh karein..as happening in other sectors of economy.

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    Sugarcane Prices should be strictly based on Demand and Supply. Thats the only way to determine the best price for any commodity that is in the best interest of both procuders and consumers. If the Market price is higher than the current price set by the government, Sugarcane producers will produce more sugarcane and vice-versa.

    Trust me, Government does not have a magiv mirror in its pocket that tell it whats the best price for any commodity. They are just pulling out prices out of their behinds.

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    Strangely not a single word in support of farmers by Chautala Sahab and sons. Looks like Farmers cause died with Ch Devi Lal.

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahiyarules View Post
    Sugarcane Prices should be strictly based on Demand and Supply. Thats the only way to determine the best price for any commodity that is in the best interest of both procuders and consumers. If the Market price is higher than the current price set by the government, Sugarcane producers will produce more sugarcane and vice-versa.

    Trust me, Government does not have a magiv mirror in its pocket that tell it whats the best price for any commodity. They are just pulling out prices out of their behinds.
    Correct.

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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    mujhe to kuch pata nahi chal raha kya ho raha hai..
    chini import ho rahi hai kyunki govt. bolti hai chini kam hai, maharashtra main kisan suicide kar rahe hai kyunki unka ganna chini mill wale crush karne ke lie bhi nahi le rahe..

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    [QUOTE=rkumar;232436]Strangely not a single word in support of farmers by Chautala Sahab and sons. Looks like Farmers cause died with Ch Devi Lal




    sir ek baar paisa aane ke baad jo log khud gaon me pale bade ho unko bhi farming, bhes ,gher,buggi jhotta sab cheeze backward lagne lagti hai chotala sahb abb SUV mai bhet kar kaha andaaz laga painge uss kisan ka jisse kabhi kabhi 2-3 din line mai khade reh kar mill mai ganna tolna hota hai.

    kehne ko india krishi pradhan desh hai par yaha kisan hi sabse garib hai 60% logo ki life farming pe depend hai par unki koi sunne wala nahi,media kehti hai kisano ne dilli jantar mantar ka gherav kar diya waha kudaa kachra fella diya.

    hamare neta ji log abb AC mai reh kar kaha andazaa laga painge kissan ki dikat ka ...

    bechre neta ji log abb high class sophisticated aur nazuk jo ho gaye hai..........
    Last edited by shekharjat; November 22nd, 2009 at 08:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    Strangely not a single word in support of farmers by Chautala Sahab and sons. Looks like Farmers cause died with Ch Devi Lal.

    RK^2
    Chautala saab was first among to ask for present plight of sugarcane....see his press conference on Haryana News Channel...

    Even before this big agitation in delhi.
    Becoz haryana has just& mere 10 loksabha seats including Ambala , faridabad ,& Gurgaon...

    His strength in centre is not great, so he is been restricted by this numeric figure of 10.

    Dont malign anyone if not aware , specially guys who are outsiders...

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    [QUOTE=shekharjat;232445]
    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    Strangely not a single word in support of farmers by Chautala Sahab and sons. Looks like Farmers cause died with Ch Devi Lal




    sir ek baar paisa aane ke baad jo log khud gaon me pale bade ho unko bhi farming, bhes ,gher,buggi jhotta sab cheeze backward lagne lagti hai chotala sahb abb SUV mai bhet kar kaha andaaz laga painge uss kisan ka jisse kabhi kabhi 2-3 din line mai khade reh kar mill mai ganna tolna hota hai.

    kehne ko india krishi pradhan desh hai par yaha kisan hi sabse garib hai 60% logo ki life farming pe depend hai par unki koi sunne wala nahi,media kehti hai kisano ne dilli jantar mantar ka gherav kar diya waha kudaa kachra fella diya.

    hamare neta ji log abb AC mai reh kar kaha andazaa laga painge kissan ki dikat ka ...

    bechre neta ji log abb high class sophisticated aur nazuk jo ho gaye hai..........
    agar aisa hota to 32 ki bajaye 2 seats aati...

    He formed pressure on then Vajpayee govt over rates..
    Even taken back support from that govt only for cause of
    FARMERs.

    NO DEMAND -SUPPLY RULE....FREEHOLD is key word!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dheeraj24 View Post
    Chautala saab was first among to ask for present plight of sugarcane....see his press conference on Haryana News Channel...

    Even before this big agitation in delhi.
    Becoz haryana has just& mere 10 loksabha seats including Ambala , faridabad ,& Gurgaon...

    His strength in centre is not great, so he is been restricted by this numeric figure of 10.

    Dont malign anyone if not aware , specially guys who are outsiders...

    Dheeraj i think its not matter of seats even Ajit Singh have only 4 seats in loksabha and only around 10 in state assembly he is also not a part of government.Even if you dont have any seats anywhere it does not restrict you to raise your voice in india.

    It was not directed towards only choutala saab.It was for all neta jis seating in luyten`s delhi particularly.

    Who is outsider ??? am i not member of jatland?


    This is a fact once people get in power they tend to forget issues for what they stood. agar aisa na hota to India abb tak G-8 ka member ho gaya hota.This trend is pan India irrespective of the state boundries.

    chautala saab ke uper bhi bahut allegations hai..... koi bhi duudh ka dhula nahi hai.

    fir bhi if ur sentiments got hurt sorry for tht.but yes i was aware wht i was writing.

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    Freehold karne main kya burai hai...

    Just restricting economic freedom of one section i.e. Farmers... Is making them POOR.
    Last edited by Dheeraj24; November 22nd, 2009 at 12:01 PM.

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    all the farmer family is fighting for sugar cane prices

    hello to all jaat family
    pachimi uttar pradesh ki sab se badi takat hai humari kheti ........
    agar hum isse par aavaj nhi utha sakte to hum kuch nhi kar sakte
    aur filhaal mai jo kuch ho raha hai wo sarasar jagjti hai ........
    isse kai liye hum nai jo aavaj uthai hai wo kabile tarif hai aur ye bus ek akele kisi jati ya sangathan ki ladai nhi hai ye pur kishan parivaar ki ladai hai jise kai khilaaf hai hum sab ko ek saath samne ana chaiye

    .........jai jawan jai kishan
    jai jaat
    ... mai gaurav chaudhary [meerut uni. campus former jaat president]

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    Ek baar GOVT ka CONTROL khatam ho gya to FARMERS
    poor nahin rehenge.

    When Land starts producing in-line with Mehnat , then no need to sell farm lands.

    No one will acquire one's lands , as koi chodne ko taiyaar nahin hoga dharti ...kisi bhi rate par!

    No need will be there to ask for reservation or special status , paisa hoga to mann laga_ke paddega....

    Jib do waqt ki roti ka na bera to padai kyukar kare?

    Eib loha garam hai...saare pressure dalo leaders par..

    --------

    Now a days Govt procure almost all produce at very very less rate than MARKET
    (set as per committee 50 years back, with 1-10 rupees increase every year/2 years gap)
    Afterwards left to get spoiled in godowns of food corporationsFCI!
    Half-of-officers in FCIs run hotels!

    Isse achha to freehold kar do....more movement...more generation of business would be in picture.
    Last edited by Dheeraj24; November 22nd, 2009 at 03:26 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Dheeraj24;232447]
    Quote Originally Posted by shekharjat View Post

    agar aisa hota to 32 ki bajaye 2 seats aati...


    NO DEMAND -SUPPLY RULE....FREEHOLD is key word!
    Sabne berra se 32 seat kyun aayi. Main bhi hudde-e tha jib election huyee thee. Aankhyan dekhi baat kahun sun!

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