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Thread: UP Jats, Brilliant Time to get Harit Pradesh.

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    UP Jats, Brilliant Time to get Harit Pradesh.

    Its the time of year to demand [and get] a separate state in country.Mayawati herself appealed western UP people to faster their efforts for a separate state of Harit Pradesh.

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    Dec 12, 02:21 am


    लखनऊ। मुख्यमंत्री और बसपा प्रमुख मायावती ने छोटे राज्यों का समर्थन करते हुए कहाकि उत्तर प्रदेश का भी विभाजन होना चाहिये। समग्र विकास के लिए बुंदेलखंड और पश्चिमी उत्तर प्रदेश अलग राज्य बनने चाहिये। उन्होंने दावा किया कि केंद्र रजामंदी दिखाये तो यूपी के बँटवारे के लिए राज्य विधानसभा में प्रस्ताव पारित कराकर भेजा जायेगा। पूर्वाचल राज्य के मसले पर मुख्यमंत्री का नजरिया है कि इसमे भी कोई हर्ज नहीं।

    अपने सरकारी आवास पर मुख्यमंत्री ने पत्रकार वार्ता में कहा कि आंध्र प्रदेश में तेलंगाना को अलग राज्य बनाने के लिए केंद्र ने सहमति व्यक्त करते हुए जिस तरह से विधानसभा में प्रस्ताव पारित कराने की अपेक्षा की है, उसी प्रकार की सहमति उत्तर प्रदेश सरकार को भी पृथक बुंदेलखंड और पश्चिमी उप्र राज्य के गठन पर मिलनी चाहिये। मायावती ने कहा कि आबादी और क्षेत्रफल के हिसाब से उप्र काफी बड़ा राज्य है, लिहाजा जनता के हित में और बेहतर प्रशासनिक व्यवस्था के लिए छोटे राज्यों और छोटे जिलों की सख्त जरूरत है। प्रधानमंत्री को भेजे पत्र का जिक्र करते हुए उन्होंने कहा कि उप्र के सभी क्षेत्रों के विकास के लिए छोटे राज्यों में बाँटने के बाबत पिछले साल 15 मार्च को भी प्रधानमंत्री को पत्र लिख चुकी हैं।

    इसी के साथ मुख्यमंत्री ने बुंदेलखंड और पश्चिमी उप्र के लोगों से आग्रह किया कि केंद्र सरकार के सामने अपनी मांग को पुरजोर ढंग से रखें, लेकिन अनुशासित ढंग से और कानून के दायरे में रहकर।



    She made some sense. No?
    "All I am trying to do is bridge the gap between Jats and Rest of World"

    As I shall imagine, so shall I become.

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    New NCR State but not harit pradesh

    It would be much better if Delhi NCR would be one state which would include Western UP+ other NCR region and make a New state "Delhi state" or “NCR state". It would be more beneficial economically and socially. This will decrease the population density in Delhi area which is becoming extremely dangerous for Delhi, Gurgaon, Faridabad, Ghaziabad and Noida.
    If western UP or Harit pradesh would be one state it will be a “mini Pakistan” as it has over 34% Muslim Population which is not good at all for the country. Even Chaudhry charan singh himself opposed it several times because of this reason (muslim population) but his son ch. Ajit singh supporting harit Pradesh only for his own political interest.
    Last edited by piush_tomar; December 12th, 2009 at 08:18 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Scientific & Awareness Increasing Methodology

    Latitude & Longitude's scientific knowledge
    should be used for redesign of internal
    Statehood boundaries.

    At independence time we were not so lucky
    otherwise caste / ethnic group based unification
    should be drained then only.

    Geography , GPS system of location , diversity
    Sense of Permanent things would be in picture

    More good representation of people in parliament,
    not just that one is hailing from bigger state commanding large chunk of parliamentarians.
    Like done by 80 seats in now-of-UP.

    Direct PM


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    No need to forsee bigger NCR or a statehood
    Ask people of delhi ....kisi mattipleet ho ri se!
    Original residents ki...I mean JATs ki dilli ke.

    They have started calling themselves HARYANVIS
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    And here is the opinion of Sri Bheeshm Pitamah on the division of state, territory or kingdom. You can jump directly to 33.30 to get straight to the point.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j8lEqGHYeY

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    Quote Originally Posted by piush_tomar View Post
    It would be much better if Delhi NCR would be one state which would include Western UP+ other NCR region and make a New state "Delhi state" or “NCR state". It would be more beneficial economically and socially. This will decrease the population density in Delhi area which is becoming extremely dangerous for Delhi, Gurgaon, Faridabad, Ghaziabad and Noida.
    If western UP or Harit pradesh would be one state it will be a “mini Pakistan” as it has over 34% Muslim Population which is not good at all for the country. Even Chaudhry charan singh himself opposed it several times because of this reason (muslim population) but his son ch. Ajit singh supporting harit Pradesh only for his own political interest.
    After staying for more than 6 months in Meerut I am 100% agreed with Mr. Tomar. Making Harit Pradesh means creating another Kashmir. Meerut will be in NCR today or tomorrow and it will be better.

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    More and more state demands are arising day by day. Sare desh ko tod do chote-chote bhago me. Sab apni rajneeti ko chamkane me lag gaye hai ab. Ye nahi sochte ki jitne jyada rajya honge utni hi muskil hogi control karne me. State politics haavi ho jayegi poore desh me. Center will lose control (it still doesn't have much). Koi bhi party majority(or near majority) lane ki soch bhi nahi sakti fir to. Ban gayi sarkar fer to. Law and order ki halat pahle se hi khraab hai, itne sare states ban jayenge to jma latte paad denge log. Mayawati ne muslim votes ke liye hi is batware ko hwa di hai. Bundelkhand walo ko khaane ko bhi nahi milega alag rajya ban gya to. Sab najdeek ka fayda dekh rahe hai!!
    A350Xwb - Shaping Efficiency!

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    इब सारे फफेटे रचेंगे ये लोग ! पहला अनशन करै थे इब यु काम भी कर दिया |

    http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/national/general/5_1_6020822.html

    एक यु भी सै
    http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/national/general/5_1_6020821.html

    पहला कुन्सा घाट रोले थोड़े थे देश में, यु नया कुकरम और छिड गया |
    Last edited by malikdeepak1; December 14th, 2009 at 03:37 PM.
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    Cool

    Bhai me ri samaj me yo na aata badi-2 company to synergy ke liye business acquire kare se ye chote-2 rajya te ke kadenge. Jharkhand uttrakhand ne kya naya kar diya.

    Better administrartion ki baat ki hai mayawati ne :
    Bilkul galat aisa karke kuch aur logo ko mauka milega corruption ka Ek aur CM, Aur nai ministry Madhu koda is the latest example.

    thse politicians are just cooking their bread :rock:rock:rockby indulging people in thes type of issues.

    Saley karan ke kaam to karen koni ulte kitne e kara lyo.

    Ajit singh ki raajniti e do chijya pe chale se Baap ke naam pe er Haritpradesh ki maang pe.

    AP ke case me congres leaders ne maal ke chatte me haath de diya eb maakhhi kit kit ladengi kise ne na bera.
    Last edited by rajkphogat; December 14th, 2009 at 03:58 PM.

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    Division is ESSENTIAL

    Ye to har ghar main hove hain.

    Nyaara paatna for BETTERMENT.

    Sadiyan te hove hain...

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    They must divide UP.. This state is in bad shape and thing will improve as there will be more visibility. I think Govt needs to try everything to bring muslims in mainstream. We can't ignore 170 million people in this country.

    Haryana is great example of state division.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yudhvirmor View Post
    We can't ignore 170 million people in this country.

    Haryana is great example of state division.
    Bhai Mor mane to kite na IGNORE hoye dikhte ye Gaade!!

    Ye to roj ek naya fatwa likaad de se. Latest Xample : "Koi muslmaan Vande Matram nahi gayega!!" A rare case of True Patriotism, isn't it?

    And if this is so, then a separate country itself like pakistan(which was originally created for these people only, par hmari ek mhaan hasti ki buddhi bhrasht thi us time jab usne kahi ke jisne jana ho chale jao er jisne aade rahna ho rah jao) should be created for thier upliftment. Rajya nyaara kare to inka kuch na hove. ye to usme bhi ignore ho sake se!
    Last edited by malikdeepak1; December 14th, 2009 at 04:42 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by malikdeepak1 View Post
    Bhai Mor mane to kite na IGNORE hoye dikhte ye Gaade!!

    Ye to roj ek naya fatwa likaad de se. Latest Xample : "Koi muslmaan Vande Matram nahi gayega!!" A rare case of True Patriotism, isn't it?

    And if this is so, then a separate country itself like pakistan(which was originally created for these people only, par hmari ek mhaan hasti ki buddhi bhrasht thi us time jab usne kahi ke jisne jana ho chale jao er jisne aade rahna ho rah jao) should be created for thier upliftment. Rajya nyaara kare to inka kuch na hove. ye to usme bhi ignore ho sake se!
    I am not trying to play any vote card. However, I think Muslims are the most exploited people in a world because of their leaders. Education and good health services were never provided to them. If we improve their education system and shoot their Molvis and religious leaders, we can add them to mainstream and they can be a really asset to India.

    Good news is that they want to be part of mainstream and they also want to come out of Madarssas and this Mandir-Masjid stuff.
    It all can happen through decent education to them so that they understand about society and how to live peacefully with other people from different religions.

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by yudhvirmor View Post
    They must divide UP.. This state is in bad shape and thing will improve as there will be more visibility. I think Govt needs to try everything to bring muslims in mainstream. We can't ignore 170 million people in this country.

    Haryana is great example of state division.
    Bhai fer jharkhand er chatisgad kyoon na develop hoye.

    eb suppose kar haryan ke 4-5 nye rajay bana de uttari haryana, poorvi haryana,paschimi, dakshini er madhya haryana.

    problems solved form this:

    Eb jo CM bana khatar lade se wa khatam hojagi 4-5 CM banjange.

    Log ek rajay te doosre rajay (i.e. gurgaon te rohtak ) jan tai toll tax denge, ek mandi te doosri mandi me naaz bechan tai nayara tax, Govt ki kangali bi door hojagi narya revenue aawega.

    Nyare-2 Rajay aayog nyare govt. employee, Log aur bharti karne padenge Gvot. ne nayi bharti log khush (er bharti karan khatar politicians aur peese khawenge we bhi kush)

    Chor ek rajay me chori karki doosre rajya me bhaaj jangey Police unne pakde koni kyuki doosre rajay me bina approval jana allow koni unki bi chandi.:rock:rock:rock

    ek bhai ne thik kahya tha if division is solution of the problem of bad administration, then Pakistan would not be in current situation.

    Administration to loga te howe se je we log isi mansikta te rahnge to kimme na howe chahe ek UP ke teen bana do chahe 4.

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    Again going off topic myself..pls forgive:

    After JATs I feel that Muslim s are very transparent
    in their acts.

    On vote account things mainly on major platforms
    you will see them standing with JATs.

    जाटों के सबसे नज़दीक मुसलमान हैं
    कार्य शेली मैं |

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    Cool

    Quote Originally Posted by yudhvirmor View Post
    I am not trying to play any vote card. However, I think Muslims are the most exploited people in a world because of their leaders. Education and good health services were never provided to them. If we improve their education system and shoot their Molvis and religious leaders, we can add them to mainstream and they can be a really asset to India.

    Good news is that they want to be part of mainstream and they also want to come out of Madarssas and this Mandir-Masjid stuff.
    It all can happen through decent education to them so that they understand about society and how to live peacefully with other people from different religions.

    Bhai solution to tanne e de diya inke Moulviya er leadran ke goli maro Rajay nayra padan te ke howe se.

    Rahi exploitation ki baat eploit karanaala dharam na dekhe apna matlab dekhe se chahe wo hindu ho ya muslim ya kisi aur dharam ka.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajkphogat View Post
    Bhai solution to tanne e de diya inke Moulviya er leadran ke goli maro Rajay nayra padan te ke howe se.

    Rahi exploitation ki baat eploit karanaala dharam na dekhe apna matlab dekhe se chahe wo hindu ho ya muslim ya kisi aur dharam ka.
    Brahmins are running this country and they are known for era of exploitation.

    What happened to them in Kashmir was result of their deeds of past..

    We can't afford to ignore anybody, we need to make policies for growth of everybody be its SC, BC, General, Hindu, christian, Muslim..
    We can't build this country alone.. Always remember, Nationalism can't be expected out of deprived and frustrated citizens.

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    Again going off topic myself..pls forgive:

    After JATs I feel that Muslim s are very transparent
    in their acts.

    On vote account things mainly on major platforms
    you will see them standing with JATs.

    जाटों के सबसे नज़दीक मुसलमान हैं
    कार्य शेली मैं |

    ooooooo bhai rehn de....... itna julam mat kar jaton pe.....
    ye mere susre bilkul opposite ho hain jaton ke.........
    i don't know bhai where r u frm???? i think u r nt frm UP thats why u r using these words. bhia go arround to meerut, mujaffarnagar, rampur or aligarh........ there u will feel the typical pakistani culture.................
    I dont regret my past I just regret the time Ive wasted with the wrong people!!rock:eek:

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rajkphogat
    Bhai solution to tanne e de diya inke Moulviya er leadran ke goli maro Rajay nayra padan te ke howe se.

    Rahi exploitation ki baat eploit karanaala dharam na dekhe apna matlab dekhe se chahe wo hindu ho ya muslim ya kisi aur dharam ka.


    Brahmins are running this country and they are known for era of exploitation.

    What happened to them in Kashmir was result of their deeds of past..

    We can't afford to ignore anybody, we need to make policies for growth of everybody be its SC, BC, General, Hindu, christian, Muslim..
    We can't build this country alone.. Always remember, Nationalism can't be expected out of deprived and frustrated citizens.

    bhai yudhveer kabhi UP ghum lena 2-3 din ke liye fir ye baten na to tum bologe ar na hi likhoge...............
    I dont regret my past I just regret the time Ive wasted with the wrong people!!rock:eek:

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawariya View Post
    bhai yudhveer kabhi UP ghum lena 2-3 din ke liye fir ye baten na to tum bologe ar na hi likhoge...............

    Aditya bhai.. i am not a great fan of minority appeasement. We can't afford civil war or one more partition. We need to work out on differences with them. I know they are tough ppl to live or work with.

    Can you suggest any better option?

    Coming back to topic, I strongly belive that UP needs to divided in smaller states to manage things..It'll bring more investments in infrastructure and Law & Order situation will improve.

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    Aditya bhai.. i am not a great fan of minority appeasement. We can't afford civil war or one more partition. We need to work out on differences with them. I know they are tough ppl to live or work with.

    Can you suggest any better option?

    Coming back to topic, I strongly belive that UP needs to divided in smaller states to manage things..It'll bring more investments in infrastructure and Law & Order situation will improve.
    yudhvir sir devidation is nt the solution. being the resident of west UP i also support harit pradesh. annual growth rate of newly built states like Uttarakhand n chattisgarh(approx 7%)was lower than the average growth rate of India(approx 10%) and their parent states as well. so making small states is not the gurantee of development......
    I dont regret my past I just regret the time Ive wasted with the wrong people!!rock:eek:

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