bhai sab ne bera hai ki jobs limited hai.....to number to unka padaga jo us field ma mehnat karaga........jo job chahiye to padhna padaga........na to apni kheti karo......
ar bhai ek baat sun........maan le reservation mil gaya........to bhai uska fayda bhi bas wahi uthavanga jo pahlan te hi educated.......35% waale ka fer bhi number konya pada.......
bhai 50 ke 85% na hova..........50 ke 50.5% hi hova ga.........bhai itna tu khud bhi hisaab laga saka hai.......koye jugad /tugad karke ya ....reservation mil jave t bhai .......50 ke 85 % chance hoja s ......
bhai izzat to bas maanan ki chiz hova hai.........na to duniya ma ghane kamin ar besharam log bhi ji re hain....chahe tu unke muh ba gaali bak de, we kuch bhi na bola......ar isme jo manee bera h aaj tak .....kisi k kime bhi na sedhta ......rajasthan ke jatan n tham kista ak backward class kar ke bolo soo
bhai maare vaaste to BACKWARD CATEGORY ma aana sabte bade GAALI hai..........ib tane na feel hota to isma hum kuch ni kar sakte.........
bhai tu khud bta......ek candiate din-raat mehnat kar rya hai ek job khaatar......ar dusara reserved candidate uske muqabale kuch na pad rya ....to bhai WHO DESERVES THAT JOB........
bhai agar apni community waaste kuch karna hi hai to koi school, college kulwao........jahan balkaa ne free ya fer kam paise ma education mil sake......fer reservation ki jarurat hi na pada.......
na bhai isa kuch na hai........ye bhi OBC kote ki maang kar sake the jaatan waasta........par bhia ye achhe leader the.......unha bera tha ke KOTE te kuch na hona.........
agar kuch ho sakta hai to sir EDUCATION SE........
ye upar ek bhai na ghane LEADERS ke naam ginvae hai......jo us reservation ki rally ma logon na bhadka re the........
jahan tak mera sochna hai ki ye saare leader ghane RICH hai.....to bhai agar ye apni community ke baare itna hi socha hai to fer koi school ya college kyun ka kholte.......jahan JAATAN ke balkaan ne high standard ki education di ja sake........
na hi ye kadi kissan waaste koi camp lagaate jahan kissan te khtei karne ki MODERN TECHNIQUE bta saka.......
nah hi koi hospital kholte jahan kam te kam kharche ma kisi jaat ka ilaaz ho saka.........
bhai inha jaatan te kuch na lena..........bas apni POLITICS KI DUKAAN chalaan te matlab hai..........
hooda bhai saab........aapko life me mujhse kahi jyada experience......mujhse zyada duniya dekhi hai.........DESH KI GHATIYA POLITICS ke baare me app achhi tarah janate ho.......aapko bhi pta hai ki agar koi RESERVATION ke virodh me protest karega to ghatiya politician reserved category ke logon ko bhadka denge.......or desh me itne bada civil war shuru ho jayega ki aapne kabhi socha bhi nahi hoga.......lakhon log bina kisi matlab ke maare jaenge.........
reservation koi protest karne se khatam nahi hoga.......ise kahatam karna hai to un logo ko jagruk karna hoga jo reservation ki maang karte hai......ya already reserved category me hai........or ye sirf education se hi ho sakta......
hum aarakshan maang kar is bimari ko or jyada badhava de rahe hain........
and sir please dont think that WE, "the people against reservation" , will sit quietly and let these POLITICIANS make a mockery of our Prestigous Jaat Culture.......
........ye sirf bhole-bhaale jaaton ko bhadka rahe hai........
shai khe se bhai
pure desh me te free me t aaya nhai jaawe delhi
usme jitne pese lage ga wo sara wo leader he to de ge or kon de ga
gaadiya pe apne naam k poster lga lga k bhar-bhar k leke aawege ak mahre saath itne aadme han agle chunawo me ticket hme he dena asli maqsd to yhe hota inka
na te itne pese t te bhut se priwaro ka bhla ho sqta hai agr
koye bdiya sa kaam krya jawe T
jo tne upr kikh rake han
par
ye neta bde chalu chij han ye long term investment krya kre
ib pesa lgawe g ar arksn milo ya na milo pher logan n khwe g ak hum t tari gel the ib hmne vote do
ar 1 be jite he inke ib lgye huwe pese kai guna ho k ulte aawe ge
Number one Haryana...............:rock
एक भाई ने कहा के हमे अच्छी शिक्षा अच्छे स्कूल की जरुरत हैं | भाई आपने बिलकुल सही फ़रमाया , आपकी बात गौरतलब हैं | अच्छी शिक्षा मिलने से हमारे बच्चे अच्छी उच्च शिक्षा प्राप्त करेंगे |
अब रही बात आरक्षण की तो भाइयों हम जाट " जर्नल कोटे " में आते हैं जिसमे हमारे लिए 50 % नौकरियो के लिए आवेदन कर सकते हैं | हमने चाहे कितने ही अच्छे शिक्षण संस्था से शिक्षा ग्रहण कर रखी हो , उसके बाद भी हम सिर्फ 50 % नौकरियो के हकदार हैं |
अब रही बात obc कोटे की तो सरकार ने इनके लिए नौकरियो में 27 % कोटा निर्धारित कर रखा हैं |
सरकारी नौकरियो की परीक्षाओ में जो आवेदक (obc या st ) मेरिट में आता हैं उसको जर्नल कोटे के तहत गिना जाता हैं | यानि के हमारा कोटा इससे 50 % से भी कम रह जाता हैं |
अब अगर जाटों को obc कोटा मिला जाये हमारा कोटा हुआ 27 % | हमारे जो बच्चे मेरिट में आएंगे उनकी गिनती 50 % के तहत की जाएगी यानी के हमारा कोटा इससे 50 % +27 % = 77 % | अब हम जहा 50 % नौकरियो में अपना सर फोड़ रहे हैं वही कोटा मिलने से 77 % नौकरिया हासिल करने के हक़दार हो जायेंगे |
हम आरक्षण को खत्म तो नहीं करा सकते पर इस आरक्षण रूपी चक्रव्यूह में घुस कर फायदा तो उठा सकते हैं जैसे अहीर व अन्य जाति के लोग उठा रहे हैं | और रही बात जाति परिवर्तन की तो इससे कोई जाती छोटी बड़ी नहीं हो रही | इस आरक्षण में बात रोजगार की हैं न के जाति परिवर्तन की | कुछ लोग खामखा अपनी कौम के लोगो को गुमराह कर रहे हैं इन ब्राह्मणों की बातों में आकर | ब्राह्मणों को पहले ही जाटों से जलन हैं उन्हें पता हैं अगर ये जाट obc में चले गए तो हर जगह इनका कब्ज़ा हो जायेगा इसलिए वो लोग हमारे भाइयो के दिमाग में यह बात बैठा देते हैं की तुम छोटे हो जाओगे | भाइयों ये ब्राह्मण तो हमें पहले ही शुद्र मानते हैं इनकी बातो को छोडो और समय की नजाकत को समझने की कोशिश करो |
Last edited by ARVINDJANGU; December 22nd, 2009 at 01:50 PM.
anil sangwaan ji saayad hawaa singh saangwaan aapkey pitaaji hein.(agar naa ho to buraa mat maananaa bhai yo meraa andaaz hey.) manney unki likhi hui kitaab asli lootery kon? padhee hey aur riservation ko chhod mein unkey oothaaye huey sabhi muddon se puri terah sahmat hoon .ek baar to mujhey lag rahaa thaa ki saari baatein merey deemaag ki nikaal key usmey chhaap di.
:rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |
Good one bhai
Ya teri baat samaj me aayi
Par ek baat manne bhi bata kya aarakshan ke aadhar par aaye hue log utne hi qualied /inteligent hongey jitney merit ke bachhe.
If yes, then they really dont need kota system
If no, to kya ek jati ke liye desh ki services me nalayak ghusana thik hai.
bhai hum aaj kuch bhi kahen desh ko chala to gvot. hi rahi hai incl PSU's pvt companies to sirf apna munafa dekhti hain na ki social resposibility.
I still meet those old friends who are unmarried and unemployed when I visit my village..I strongly believe that any wrongdoing needs to be criticized and in my opinion there is no leniency for any person who buy girl to get married.
Reservation is not a solution. All I am trying to say is that we don't need to make our future generations week by putting them in this mindset of reservation. Our future generations will never forgive us if we push ourselves for reservation.
Regarding going and participating in the event, I think I am quite far away so may not be possible for me to participate. I'll glad to participate if you are thinking to organize such even in London.
Community service is personal choice and I think I spend reasonable time for that.
arvind ji mujhe lagta hai ki aap hame gumraah kar rahe hai........
OBC---- OTHER BACKWARD CASTES--------
is sentence me mujhe to kahi ROJGAR word dikhayi nahi deta........
yahaan saaf-saaf likha hai ki jon CASTE BACKWARD HAI.......
agar yahi term OBP------OTHER BACKWARD PEOPLE----- hoti tab hum bhi aapka saath dete.......yani reservation caste ke base par nahi, balki ek admi ke ecnomic background ke base par hona chahiye.........
chalo maan lo reservation mil gaya........to kya is reservation se un jaaton ko bhi job milegi jo apne bachho ko basic education bhi nahi de pate.......because of their economical conditions.........
ye chamar to kade te SC CATEGORY MA AVA HAI.......fir bhi aaj har village me utne hi chamar hai ar unki economic condition aaj bhi wahi hai.......unka koi uthan na hoya.........because reservation based on caste cannot do anything good for any caste........
ar bhai ye baat mujhe kisi BRAHMAN NE na sikhayi.........haan tham jo bol rahe ho wo sab un LEADERS ke muh te likadi hoyi baat hai........
Improve your skill level and start working in pvt sector ASAP.. Otherwise you won't be able to find the land to use your KASSI.
Majority of us on this site have very strong rural connections, we all went through this and found our ways..
FYI.. J&J is almost double the size of Reliance..
You think reservation will guarantee you job? we are around 23% in Haryana, If they'll give us say 16% reservation, what will happened to rest 7 %.
Come out of this mindset of govt job.. everything is going to privatized slowly and painfully.
Bhai teri sarkari naukri lagi t kisey ki b na lagan de k,
Er pvttization ka kamaal te pachley saal slowdown me sabne dekhya e se, badey-2 bank doob gey major indstries become bankcrupt but this doesnt happen in india otyher then in those sectors in which we depend on foreign countries think abut the reason of that dear.
As I mentioned earlier here is very clear statistics, Since 1984 no single JAT became IAS or IPS in UP. When we got OBC reservation at state level in UP over 60% seats in all state level post under OBC have been filled by Jats only. Over thousands or Lakh job come every year in central government jobs. Just imagine How many jats would have been selected if we would have obc reservation at center since 1990(mandal commission implemented). Almost 20 years have been passed. Just imagine how much we lost.
Under OBC our children will also get admission in central government institutions like IIT and IIM and you wont believe there are over 50% seats still vacant because they are not being filled by other OBC caste, but we know when Jats will have this opportunity they will filled it very easily and in coming time it will help our community as a whole.
We need reservation for Just 25 years so that our coming generation will not need it as they will get proper education and other facility from their well established parents and grandparents.
Today we have over 22 Jat MP in parliament from different parties they don’t raise this issue in parliament because they know if we as a Jat community will be well established than how their “Netagiri” will be sustained ..they know if our community will remain weak and poor they will get support in every election.
“Jat Arakshan sangarsh samiti” in Uttar Pradesh is a non political organization and fighting for this social cause under Mr. Yashpal Malik. You wont believe non of the Jat leader from any party not supporting it because they want this community remain poor and I am dead sure when we will get reservation these “Political Dalal” will be at front to get the advantage.
So for prosperous future of Jat community fight against it. Either remove all reservation from our constitution or give us reservation under OBC.