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    Rural under-development- An analysis

    Historically, India’s countryside has been a neglected lot. In pre-independence era alien rulers of British India, in connivance with their sovereign counterparts i.e. rulers of princely states, used to usurp major chunk of hard-earned income of hapless farmers, accrued from their agriculture produce, in the name of ‘lagaan’ (rent). The revenue so generated was spent, towards palatial luxuries, maintenance of armaments and beautification of the capitals, leaving the villages to fend for themselves. The intractable issue of rural development met the same fate at the hands of sovereign rulers post-independence. The plight of rural poor continues unabated. Majority of villages in India, including Haryana, UP, MP or Rajasthan which are focus of our attention on this forum, still remain without basic civic amenities viz. road, rail/bus service, education, health services, telephone, playgrounds, not to speak of cyber café , pub or discotheque which are still considered as ingredients of alien culture.


    Now the question is, even after 62 years of independence, why the pace of development is so slow and lop-sided? Why the developmental activities are centered round the big/metropolitan cities only? In my perception the underdevelopment and backwardness of villages is due to a cumulative effect to the following factors:

    (a) Dynastic politics: Politics has been monopolized by a handful of families, be it Haryana, UP or Rajasthan. By hook or by crook these families are able to capture power alternatively- thanks to the coterie of sycophants and vote- brokers around them. Once in power, these leaders exert their energies in accumulating money for themselves and their relatives gliding over Chandigarh, Lucknow, Jaipur or Delhi roads in their Hummers or SUVs giving a damn to their voters and their demands for developmental agenda.

    (b) Indifferent attitude of educated youth towards politics and development of their area:

    Majority of modern educated youth who migrate to cities or abroad stay away from politics considering it a dirty game which is a wrong perception overlooking the fact that politics is an inalienable part of our life and their indifference comes handy to the type of politicians mentioned above at (a). In the absence of any pressure group consisting of educated people from the constituency, the MLAs/MPs tend to be lax and conveniently ignore the demands for developmental schemes in their respective constituencies.

    (c) Lack of political awareness among the villagers: Due to inadequate knowledge, they fail to pursue their agenda with administration in an effective manner and  fail to pressurise  the concerned officials responsible for implementation of the projected schemes.

    (d) Malpractices in election: Money and muscle power plays a great role in election thereby making it easy for the corrupt, dishonest candidates with criminal records to make it to the Assembly/Parliament. Such people will have no concern for development of the area.


    (e) Gotra Factor in election : Sometimes we are driven by Gotra factor while voting which results in selection of a weak and inefficient candidate who would not be able to deliver inspite of his good intentions – due to his inefficiency.

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    Rural Development and Urbanization... the difference.

    singh sahab namaskar... i can see JATland fever is catching on you... ahahaha.

    good topic up for discussion. your point of contention, rather call it a sort of blame, has predominantly focusing the apathy caused by politicians. well, that is a factor, no doubt. but, for that matter i will hold central govt more responsible.

    the crux of the matter in my opinion lies in the phenomena called ‘rural-urban migration’. this phenomena of rural-urban migration gains impetus when there becomes acute shortage of employment opportunities in rural sector. let me try to explain further…

    some will say that the terms rural development and urbanization as synonymous. i don’t agree to this assumption in entirety, because the basic difference between the rural and the urban economies is that of their dependence and not of the amenities or facilities of life available for the people living there. now since you are talking of u.p., haryana, rajasthan and m.p. in specific, hence my focus goes to agriculture. that being said, a rural economy substantially depends on land and agriculture. on the other hand, an urban economy substantially depends on any one or a combination of industry, trade and commerce. if we want to develop a rural economy we should develop land and agriculture. the land and agriculture development would increase income of the rural people whereby they would tend to raise their living standard by letting urban amenities, facilities and traditions enter in their life.

    1. now we come to the same off-beat concern of laxity by government in pushing those real agriculture incentives, despite of the fact that india still remains an agriculture based economy. i am not saying, that the performance of the govt is below standard, but we still have to achieve a lot to see that no farmer dies of xyz reasons. this really holds true, that agriculture in india, never remained a priority for any govt since independence.

    2. second point that comes into picture, as stated above is the rural-urban migration. how many entrepreneurs have stayed back and have pushed the cause of agriculture from their confines and resources. you’ll hardly find a handful of them. though, off-late the trends are changing, where few entrepreneurs have made substantial gains in the field of agriculture. you’ll find few exemplary examples of achievements from few nri’s retuned in punjab state.

    coming back… whatever the high level of living standard that is achieved in the rural setup on the basis of increased income generated on account of land and agriculture development, the economy remains rural. all the same... it becomes developed but is not converted into an urban economy.

    let me try to explain what exactly is 'rural development'... in my opinion.

    take the example of rural villages in u.s.a. [or say for example australia or even south-africa for that matter] they look far better than indian cities and/or towns… but those are still the part of u.s. rural sector because the economy of those villages is still land and agriculture based. this course of strengthening of a rural economy is called ‘rural development’ in real essence. if the urban way of living is made available to the rural mass without raising their income through land and agriculture, their consumption, traditions and living become urban. this is urbanization and not rural development.

    urbanization is enjoyed by rural people till it is free of cost for them. as soon as it starts costing to them, either they revert to their pre-urbanization living standard or, if they have become habitual, they indulge in illegal activities to earn more income to maintain the enjoyed living standard. that is why the urban youths in India are day by day advancing towards crime. therefore, urbanization can pay nothing positive to rural mass in real sense. nor, urbanization means rural development. each of the rural development, the rural extension, the urbanization, the urban development, the urban extension and the rural urban transformation has its separate meaning.

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    Hi Braham,


    Thanks for your valuable comments.

    Inarguably, Central government is largely responsible for building macro level infrastructure for country’s pre-dominantly agrarian economy. Nevertheless, states cannot absolve themselves of the responsibility of creating congenial atmosphere for the agricultural sector to grow as a profitable and organized industry rather than being an unavoidable traditional obligation. Like in several developed countries (Britain, France, Belgium and Germany to name a few), State government should initiate steps to introduce enhanced subsidies, crop insurance, improved warehouse facilities, better road/rail siding facilities for ferrying the produce to markets, subsidized and soft loans for establishment of food processing plants, guarantee for procurement of produce by government at remunerative prices etc., for a sustainable growth of agriculture sector. Apart from the above, it is also a State subject to provide facilities for a civilized subsistence of villages viz. schools, hospitals, playgrounds, streetlights, parks, community centre, gyms etc. which are available in villages in countries like USA, Australia and even South Africa as mentioned by you. If extension of these facilities amounts to urbanization, then be it. There is no harm.

    Due to poor and appalling living conditions, lack of employment and pressure on land holdings in countryside, cities are getting a heavy influx of rural migrants taking its own toll. In spite of a heavy dose of funds for development, town planning in some of the mega cities has gone haywire with slums of ‘Dharavi magnitude’ mushrooming, defacing the beauty of these cities. It is therefore a serious issue to maintain a precarious balance between rural and urban development for their harmonious growth.

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    Note: Above perception is subject to free, fair and objective criticism
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    Quote Originally Posted by vpsingh59 View Post
    Historically, India’s countryside has been a neglected lot. In pre-independence era alien rulers of British India, in connivance with their sovereign counterparts i.e. rulers of princely states, used to usurp major chunk of hard-earned income of hapless farmers, accrued from their agriculture produce, in the name of ‘lagaan’ (rent). The revenue so generated was spent, towards palatial luxuries, maintenance of armaments and beautification of the capitals, leaving the villages to fend for themselves. The intractable issue of rural development met the same fate at the hands of sovereign rulers post-independence. The plight of rural poor continues unabated. Majority of villages in India, including Haryana, UP, MP or Rajasthan which are focus of our attention on this forum, still remain without basic civic amenities viz. road, rail/bus service, education, health services, telephone, playgrounds, not to speak of cyber café , pub or discotheque which are still considered as ingredients of alien culture.

    Cite any source which you deem trustworthy to establish a bit of this particular claim, if it is objective in nature ; but if an opinion, nothing can be done except disagreeing respectfuly. Do you mean that 60 years of self rule to a nation, who has a long history of slavery, is a touchstone to achieve everything a first world country's third grade county side have? Show us the example of any country who with such a devastating past has establisted itself as a developed in less than a centuary? It takes more than 3 generation atleast to qualify for the real improvement.
    Now the question is, even after 62 years of independence, why the pace of development is so slow and lop-sided? Why the developmental activities are centered round the big/metropolitan cities only? In my perception the underdevelopment and backwardness of villages is due to a cumulative effect to the following factors:

    (a) Dynastic politics: Politics has been monopolized by a handful of families, be it Haryana, UP or Rajasthan. By hook or by crook these families are able to capture power alternatively- thanks to the coterie of sycophants and vote- brokers around them. Once in power, these leaders exert their energies in accumulating money for themselves and their relatives gliding over Chandigarh, Lucknow, Jaipur or Delhi roads in their Hummers or SUVs giving a damn to their voters and their demands for developmental agenda.



    Lack of self esteem in educated and uneducated blokes is the pinnacle of cause of every malice we are having. Politicians have got power but who has given? Aliens?

    (b) Indifferent attitude of educated youth towards politics and development of their area:

    Majority of modern educated youth who migrate to cities or abroad stay away from politics considering it a dirty game which is a wrong perception overlooking the fact that politics is an inalienable part of our life and their indifference comes handy to the type of politicians mentioned above at (a). In the absence of any pressure group consisting of educated people from the constituency, the MLAs/MPs tend to be lax and conveniently ignore the demands for developmental schemes in their respective constituencies.

    That has made a bit of sense finally.

    (c) Lack of political awareness among the villagers: Due to inadequate knowledge, they fail to pursue their agenda with administration in an effective manner and  fail to pressurise  the concerned officials responsible for implementation of the projected schemes.

    Taking them as a fool voting machine would only harm the anyone's own predictions.They teach better lessons to officials as well as politicians than their urban cousins.

    (d) Malpractices in election: Money and muscle power plays a great role in election thereby making it easy for the corrupt, dishonest candidates with criminal records to make it to the Assembly/Parliament. Such people will have no concern for development of the area.

    You know what, politics is for strong people , it is an irony that good people aren't strong but but the bad ones have the audacity and that essence of daring to go beyond rules to pursue the power. Again it is the psychosocial submission to a strong master.Don't blame it on those who do it, rather who give it.

    (e) Gotra Factor in election : Sometimes we are driven by Gotra factor while voting which results in selection of a weak and inefficient candidate who would not be able to deliver inspite of his good intentions – due to his inefficiency.

    I didn't get this point at all. Obama was voted heavily by blacks.


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    A Very Nice Topic After long time

    Rural development kar di to kayee nuksan ho jange
    1) Is desh ko worldbank se mil rahi rakam milni band ho jayegi
    2)Gaon dehat ke padh likh jayenge aur fer sarkar ke lath denge.
    3) Jo vote Garibi hatao abhiyan ke naam pe mil rahi hain wo band ho jayengi
    4) jo grant kagjo mein to development ke naam par hain par jinhe matri ji chara ghotalo ya aise ghotalo mein dakar jate hain wo milna band ho jayega.
    5) Kalabazari par bhi kaafi hadh tak rok lag jayegi aur Lala log bhukhe mar jayenge.

    ek udharan ke taur par lete hain ek naami company ko
    Mother Dairy
    is company ka ek bhi dairy plant nahi hai.aur ye apna doodh VITA se kharidti hai with packing aur market mein bechti hai. Is company ne ek bahut badi rakam world bank se utha rakhi hai rural development ke naam par.Aur ye koi private company nahi sarkari company hai jiska naam sunke log iska doodh lete hain jabki VITA naam logo ko pasand nahi aata.
    Ye sirf ek akeli company nahi aisi hajaro company hain joki rural development ke naam par sarkar se karja aur subsidy ka fayda utha rahi hain.
    Jo cosmetics ki company herbal naam istemal kar rahi hain wo bhi sab isi tarike se logo ko bewkoof bana rahi hain.
    Iska ilaj kya ho?
    iska siraf ek ilaj mujhe samajh aata hai par use karne ki himmat nahi ho pati.
    Gandhi mujhe pasand nahi par uska Satyagrah hi sab bimariyo ka ilaj hai.
    Gaon ke log ekjut ho gaon mein hi sabji fal aur anaj paida karein apas mein ek doosre saman ke badle len den karein. Bahar ki cheezo ka bahiskar karein apni jaroorto ko seemet kar dein. Agar poora gramin bharat ye kaam siraf 6 mahine ke liye kar deta hai to sab kuch ho jayega. Par....................
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    Quote Originally Posted by samarkadian
    Responses inline.

    Cite any source which you deem trustworthy to establish a bit of this particular claim, if it is objective in nature ; but if an opinion, nothing can be done except disagreeing respectfuly. Do you mean that 60 years of self rule to a nation, who has a long history of slavery, is a touchstone to achieve everything a first world country's third grade county side have? Show us the example of any country who with such a devastating past has establisted itself as a developed in less than a centuary? It takes more than 3 generation atleast to qualify for the real improvement.
    ...
    Lack of self esteem in educated and uneducated blokes is the pinnacle of cause of every malice we are having. Politicians have got power but who has given? Aliens?
    ...
    That has made a bit of sense finally.
    ...
    Taking them as a fool voting machine would only harm the anyone's own predictions.They teach better lessons to officials as well as politicians than their urban cousins.
    ...
    You know what, politics is for strong people , it is an irony that good people aren't strong but but the bad ones have the audacity and that essence of daring to go beyond rules to pursue the power. Again it is the psychosocial submission to a strong master.Don't blame it on those who do it, rather who give it.
    ...
    I didn't get this point at all. Obama was voted heavily by blacks.

    Sometimes compartmentlised thinking serves the purpose also. Sometimes!
    samar, could you please elaborate a bit further... esp. this compartmentalized thinking?

    honestly speaking... i don't understand whether you are questioning, answering, suggesting or criticizing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rakeshsehrawat View Post
    A Very Nice Topic After long time

    Gaon ke log ekjut ho gaon mein hi sabji fal aur anaj paida karein apas mein ek doosre saman ke badle len den karein. "Bahar ki cheezo ka bahiskar karein apni jaroorto ko seemet kar dein". Agar poora gramin bharat ye kaam siraf 6 mahine ke liye kar deta hai to sab kuch ho jayega. Par....................

    Rakesh bhai shuruwaat tu a kar........mann tai laagtaa kona bahar ki cheeja bana kaam chaal jaga...khet me naaj bhi naa ho saktaa...bahar ki cheeza bana to.

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    [QUOTE=Samarkadian;241356]Responses inline.

    Mr. Kadian,


    Even though I could not make out much of your reaction, I submit my explanation with all humility, as under:
    For sure, I have neither cited from Time, Newsweek or Popular Science nor from National Geographic/Discovery channels or any other mass media. This is firsthand narrative by a son of the soil who has not only witnessed the harshness and inadequacies of village life but have experienced too. Therefore, I feel an urge of romancing the idea of radical transformation of villages to make these places worthy of living for human beings.

    60 years is a very long time. However, there can be no “touchstone” or benchmark for measuring development which is an evolving and relative concept. The pace of development in countryside during these 60/62 years has definitely been abysmally low and sluggish resulting in disparity in terms of availability of civic facilities in villages vis-à-vis cities. Whilst villages are clamoring for bare necessities due to paucity of funds, the fiscal overdose to cities led to their emergence as nerve centers of business activities, political maneuverings, land mafia, black-marketers, money launderers, self-centred white-color officials lethargic intellectuals, and last but not the least phoenix like emergence of slums harbouring petty ciminals. (Lop-sided development ke side-effects). This criminal disparity need to be addressed urgently.

    You wanted an example of a country with a history of 60 years of slavery which was able to catapult itself into a developed country. Yes I have an example. Malaysia, which got independence in 1957, has done much better than us as far as overall development is concerned. We are seeking their cooperation in building highways and basic infrastructure including mono-rail in Mumbai.

    Due of severity of our political relations many eye-brows are bound to rise, but, China may be quoted as another example.


    As far as other points are concerned you need to refine and elaborate your comments .


    You are, however, entitled to disagree and I respect your freedom of expression.





    Last edited by singhvp; March 8th, 2010 at 09:47 PM. Reason: spelling mistake

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    VP singhji,

    There is no denying the fact that development of rural India leaves much to be desired. Though some good developments did take place post independence like land reforms and the green revolution, but the cumulative effort has been much less than what was required. Having said that, I consider your diagnosis of the problem in "urban vs rural" terms as flawed. Rural India is not under-developed because the emphasis has been on urban India. It is underdeveloped because there are far too many people subsiding on land than is possible.

    I'd instead argue that the problem with rural India is because of the failure to develop urban Indian properly. Can we name one planned city that the govt. has come up with since independence? The likes of Gurgaon are extensions of existing cities. I am talking about stand alone cities built from the scratch. Through out the history of mankind, development has taken place around cities. All civilizations built cities which became the nerve centers for economic action for them. A village in itself just doesn't have the numbers for making any big project economically feasible. Just imagine a big hospital or a big mall or a university opened in a village. Where would the demand be to justify the investment? These things have to come up in the nearest town/city, which need to be well connected to the villages through roads, telephones, etc.

    Population of India is 1.2bn, of which more than 70% live in rural India. Majority of these are involved in agriculture. This is more than 3 times since independence. So number of people living off the land has tripled, while the amount of land has remained almost the same. This is just not sustainable. When a peon earns more than a farmer, it just tells you that there are far too many farmers than is economically feasible. People understand that and hence you see mass scale migration to the cities.

    On the other hand, the developed countries developed themselves on back of rapid industrialisation. As per wiki, in 1870, 70-80% of US population was employed in agriculture. Now that percentage is like 2 to 3%. Farmlands have become much bigger thus giving economy of scale to the farmer. Even in 1950, one US farmer supported around 15 citizens. By 2000, that number was close to 150. Compare this to India where one farmer is supporting less than 1.5 citizens including himself in 2010. This link has good information on development of agriculture in the US. We don't have to follow US example, but if you look at any developed country, the results would be similar.
    http://www.csrees.usda.gov/qlinks/extension.html

    The other issue is that the Indian state had been so busy making everything from soaps to steel that it didn't really have resources to concentrate on what should have been its priority- public goods like health, education, infrastructure. Plus it didn't have the money. Given the high growth of last decade and a half, the money issue has been sorted. The tax revenue to the govt. has increased a lot. The onus is now on the govt. to stop wasting money on wasteful subsidies and use it to build the infrastructure.

    The issue is not with people migrating to the cities. That is a natural outcome of the inequilibrium between rural/urban economies. The govt. needs to plan for this migration. They need to build new cities that can absorb the rural population and provide them with means of livelihood apart from agriculture. The extension of the current cities should be planned and not haphazard like it is now. And most importantly, what is needed is to develop the skill-set of rural communities so that they have options other than agriculture. Uneducated rural migrants end up in the usual unskilled/semi-skilled jobs in cities. Instead, they should be imparted with skills that can be used in the manufacturing/service sector.

    The topic itself is very broad in its scope. My write-up merely touches upon some key points.

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    thanx mr.tewatia ...
    As you have nicely explain about rural development and also about urbanization

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpsingh59 View Post
    The plight of rural poor continues unabated. Majority of villages in India, including Haryana, UP, MP or Rajasthan which are focus of our attention on this forum, still remain without basic civic amenities viz. road, rail/bus service, education, health services, telephone, playgrounds, not to speak of cyber café , pub or discotheque which are still considered as ingredients of alien culture.


    Now the question is, even after 62 years of independence, why the pace of development is so slow and lop-sided? Why the developmental activities are centered round the big/metropolitan cities only? In my perception the underdevelopment and backwardness of villages is due to a cumulative effect to the following factors:

    (a) Dynastic politics:

    (b) Indifferent attitude of educated youth towards politics and development of their area:

    (c) Lack of political awareness among the villagers:

    (d) Malpractices in election:

    (e) Gotra Factor in election :
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    Dear OP,

    Thanks for this excellent post. But my little brain fails to comprehend the exact meaning . Are you trying to say that all the above underlined problems are rural specific and are solely/vastly responcible for the under development of the rural areas. Arent these problems equally relevant to urban as well and if they are than how come they differenciate between urban and rural. If you could explain, please. I agree with Samar that its too much of generalisation and the post somewhere fails to explain (people with little knowledge like me) how these are related to the rural specific perspective which the post is about.

    Also could you please also tell me that whether a city like Sirsa is urban in ur dictionary or rural.

    I didnt go through all the posts so if this is already addressed, apologies.
    Thanks
    Last edited by VirJ; March 15th, 2010 at 06:55 AM. Reason: How misspelled
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    Quote Originally Posted by vipin80 View Post
    Dear VP,

    Thanks for this excellent post. But my little brain fails to comprehend the exact meaning . Are you trying to say that all the above underlined problems are rural specific and are solely/vastly responcible for the under development of the rural areas. Arent these problems equally relevant to urban as well and if they are than how come they differenciate between urban and rural. If you could explain, please. I agree with Samar that its too much of generalisation and the post somewhere fails to explain (people with little knowledge like me) how these are related to the rural specific perspective which the post is about.

    Also could you please also tell me that whether a city like Sirsa is urban in ur dictionary or rural.

    I didnt go through all the posts so if this is already addressed, apologies.
    Thanks
    Dear Vipin,


    Thanks for your participation, albeit a little late. As far as your realisation about your brain is considered, I do not seem be agreeable because going by your profile you seem to have quite a reasonable exposure to the outside world. Moreover, there are no fixed parameters for judging the brain or its offspring - the intellect. Also the area you hail from is no more a pure “Bagar” and is much more advanced than my desolate hamlet. I think we all are in the same boat, with different perceptions which are determined by our environs and opportunities available to us. Anyway I appreciate your humility and without delving into linguistic and philosophical nuances, come to your query.


    There is no denying the fact that the malaise of under-development is afflicting cities also including your own city Sirsa. But, I hope you would agree the dimensions and magnitude differ. Hence, I thought is proper to discuss in a different format separately once this topic is over. I have equal concern about our brothers in cities as well who had to migrate to cities due to various reasons – inadequacies of rural areas being the one - as already discussed. You may like to go through some very valuable posts by some of our learned participants. (There will not be any exaggeration if I call some of them as crème de la crème).

    Another important guiding principle behind the post being rural-specific was my assumption, which may not be correct, that this forum is Jat Centric and main thrust of Jat community being in rural side I preferred to touch only the rural aspect/side of the issue. Members are, however, free to expand the horizon of this discussion and can take to any heights by bringing into its ambit the developmental problems afflicting cities also.

    By virtue of its Being a district headquarters, Sirsa falls under the category of a city in my opinion.
    Last edited by singhvp; March 15th, 2010 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vpsingh59 View Post
    Dear Vipin,


    Thanks for your participation, albeit a little late.
    Vijay,

    My whole point basically was your post/s failed to link the problems you stated to the condition of the rural land. You yourself have agreed to the fact that urban india faced similar problems. You says it differ in magnitude. Well that needs to be argued.

    You stated lot of problems and facts but how are they responcible for the rural undevelopment. These are general problems pervalent in India and thats why Samar( I believe) has questioned that. You says politics is a problem but how? If rural and urban face the same problem/s than why they develop( as you say) urban and not rural. I am not saying the facts you stated are responcible or not but want to see how and how much they are directly/indirectly connected to the rural "development" problem.

    Your all ( and of all fellow members) posts are nevertheless Great but for a post which says "an Analysis" i expected a detailed study.

    I think we are responsilble for our current state not the politicians

    P.S I refer OP as original poster who are u in this case, that wasnt mis-spelled.
    Last edited by VirJ; March 15th, 2010 at 03:19 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vipin80 View Post
    Vijay,


    Your all ( and of all fellow members) posts are nevertheless Great but for a post which says "an Analysis" so i expected a detailed study.

    I think we are responsilble for our current state not the politicians

    .
    Vipin. Thanks for the comments. Will stay in touch.

    Oh about that OP, I thought it to be a spelling mistake. Thanks for correcting me.

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    Rural Development; Do we have any model?

    Dear Friends,

    I am starting a new thread on rural development. Rural India constitutes about 70% of Indian population. However, hardly 10-20 resources are spent in rural area. Problems of rural India are many. Rural India hardly finds any mention in National news media except for Khap, Gotra and honour killings like issues. There is hardly any govenment machinery present in villages. DM rarely visits a village. Anyone who has some money, wants to leave village and build a house in nearby town. Village is no more a self sufficient economic unit. Scope of the topic is really very large. Let me put some of the issues and how these can be addressed;

    1. Rural Education: There is hardly any investment in rural education. Teachers don't attent their duties. There is nothing a library in a village school. There is nothing like a science lab in a village school. Forget about comupter lab, its too high tech for most of the teachers in rural India. What is the solution?

    2. Rural Hygene: What are we talking? Has anyone really bothered that villages also require clean streets. Is there any village in India where street cleaneres are employed by Village Panchayats? Most of the village "Johads" are filled up and water overflows in streets during rain. Anyone who cares?

    3. Rural Health: There is no public health facility in majority of Indian villages. No doctor wants to establish his clinic in village as there is no electricity, there is no law and order machinary...nothing for his way of life. Who is going to address this? Its not on the agenda of any government.

    4. Agriculture: Agriculture is the main livelyhood of people. Has there been any change in our methods of agriculture in last 50 years other than the better seeds and fertilisers? How outdated is our irrigation system? Do our farmers have resources for modern methods of agriculture ? Are our farmers free to sell their produce anywhere in India? Do they have the means to market their produce? Has anyone in any government bothered to pay enough attention to these problems in timely manner?

    There are loads of issues I can go on. From time to time I raised to issues with authorities along with simple solutions. It does not excite anyone to address these problems. Its not glamourous to work in rural India. Can one talk of developed India when 70% of India living in villages remain neglected ?

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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    RK sir, we had a very nice discussion on a recently concluded thread on the same subject.

    please have a look here >>>
    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...nt-An-analysis
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    Quote Originally Posted by brahmtewatia View Post
    RK sir, we had a very nice discussion on a recently concluded thread on the same subject.

    please have a look here >>>
    http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...nt-An-analysis
    Thanks. I missed the thread. Let me go through that thread and will contibute my thoughts there. May be administrators can shift my post over there.

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    Dear Friends,


    There are loads of issues I can go on. From time to time I raised to issues with authorities along with simple solutions. It does not excite anyone to address these problems. Its not glamourous to work in rural India. Can one talk of developed India when 70% of India living in villages remain neglected ?

    RK^2
    You seems to be well experienced/have good grasp in all fields. Have read bit of ur blogs. Also looks like u are doing social service as well. Could u please share what simple solutions u provided to authorities?
    जागरूक ती अज्ञानी नहीं बनाया जा सके, स्वाभिमानी का अपमान नहीं करा जा सके , निडर ती दबाया नहीं जा सके भाई नुए सामाजिक क्रांति एक बार आ जे तो उसती बदला नहीं जा सके ---ज्याणी जाट।

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    Quote Originally Posted by vipin80 View Post
    You seems to be well experienced/have good grasp in all fields. Have read bit of ur blogs. Also looks like u are doing social service as well. Could u please share what simple solutions u provided to authorities?
    Let us continue it on other thread on rural development... We all know problems. Let us come with solutions which are implementable.

    RK^2
    There are many paths leading to God, politics is certainly not one of them...

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