Last edited by vijay; June 15th, 2010 at 02:45 PM.
It's better to be alone than in a bad company.
... and as i said earlier i am just extraploting the ´personal freedom` logic to ridiculous proportions. I do not literly mean ´murder´.
Very easily, i can put forward numerous examples where by above stated logic, court laws are abusrd. eg: A couple kissing on the road, all the sub-section of HMA, etc.
It's better to be alone than in a bad company.
Lawyer ke batawega tanne nahi bera?
Kyonki Aisa kanoon ki kitab mein likha hai aur kanoon ki kitab mein isliye aisa likha hai ki samaj ise galt manta hai.
Par dikkat to yaa e hai ki tum samaj ko nahi mante.jab tum samaj ko nahi mante to fir uske banaye kanoon sahi kaise hue?
Dream is not what you see while sleeping. Dream is that which won't let you sleep
:rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |
Society, law and morals, by definition, put limits on personal freedoms as much as they guarantee them. How it affects other people is only one of the considerations, but NOT the only consideration. If we forget law of the land and talk about justice from first principles, then principle of greatest good of greatest numbers AS WELL AS principle of upholding the fundamental rights of any minority are important.
What you consider as insignificant may be significant to others and vice-versa. For example, someone may kill an animal sacred to a particular community during that community's festive occasion. This may be insiginificant to the members of the community who are atheist. But the religious members would be affected very siginificantly. In matters of faith, there is no objectivity. And hence laws pertaining to personal domains are hardly objective. A community majority may decide that their greatest good is in having a particular law and the rebellious minority usually has to fall in line. It doesn't matter who is right.
Anyways, personally I believe that a law on this matter is going to be ineffective; it can merely give ego massage to some and political opportunity to others. Already discussed at length.
One should not of necessity, assume that Ms Sindhu believes in what she writes.
Being a journalist by profession, it is her task ( as she sees it)to ask and/or be provocative, to see what reaction arises.
To appreciate ones culture and community, one has to become educated/aware!
To do that, one should familiarize oneself with our historical traditions. A good place to start is to read the extensive material here and the yahoo Jat history group.
Ms Sindhu poses an important question, which deserves reflection.
Kapil puts the parameters well.
For the rest of us, perhaps we need to study our traditions and their history.
Assuredly, it is unlikely that this is the first time such discussion has happened in the Jat community.
It will not, and should not be the last.
We need people like Seema Sindhu
Ravi Chaudhary
have you ever heard of any case of khaps ostrasizing a father/uncle or father/brother-in-law who has raped their daughter or daughter/sister-in-law? or say killing such ppl? no. that they leave to court of law in case it gets reported. but they themselves are taking the law in hand for same gotra marriage. who the hell they are
A flask of wine, a book of verse
And thou beside me, singing in wilderness
When wilderness is paradise.
ygulia (April 19th, 2012)
How could I miss this thread for so long, a treat to read. I am amazed to see the opinion of people who are specialist in everything, constitution, political science, Physics, Biology, mathematics, Chemistry and what not. Jatland is privileged to have them here.
British constitution ke baare me ek baat padhi thi political science me, agar wo aap logon ki samajh me aa jaye to mujhe lagta hai ye jo samaj aur kanoon ki baatein hain wo thodi saral ho jayengi. Angrezi kamjor hai isliye hindi me likh raha hoon.
"British sanvidhan parampara aur sanyog ka shishu hai."
Remember that British constitution is one of the oldest constitution.
ab aap log pata laga lo kanoon kahan se aaya hai?
जाट महान
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