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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by upendersingh View Post
    योगेश्वर दत्त एक अच्छा पहलवान है और इस बात से कोई फर्क नहीं पड़ता कि यह जाट है, ब्राह्मण है या कोई और...कृपया किसी को जानकारी हो तो बताए कि यह भाई योगेश्वर जाट ही है क्या...केवल जानकारी के लिए पूछ रहा हूं....
    barde bhai ... yogeshwar mere hi gaam ka seh arr baaman seh!! i m proud today to see his name in the list of best atheletes in the world.
    " JAI DADA DEV "

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    Quote Originally Posted by sunnyhardeep View Post
    Really These Three jatnis (Krishna, Harvant, Seema) has created a History. Par Ek baat samajh main nahin aai yaa krishana victory stand pai harvant ke kuhni kuon mare thi.

    यह तो जाट ladies का fevourite तरीका स दूसरे का ध्यान अपनी तरफ आकर्षित करण का............ एर के बेर न्यू कहती हो..... "आँ ए... लुगड़ी ने ठीक कर ले..... कई बूढे भी बैठे सें audience में" ... हा हा हा हा हा हा

  3. #43
    हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय हम सब के लिए और देश के लिए गर्व का विषय है. मेरा विचार है कि हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय खाप व्यवस्था के कारण है. खाप व्यवस्था अनुशासन बनाने और लक्ष्य तय कर काम करने में सहायता करती है. कृष्ण पूनिया राजस्थान से होकर भी चुरू से हैं जो प्राचीन हरयाणा का हिस्सा था.कृष्ण पूनिया अग्रोहा में पैदा हुई इस तरह हरयाणा का ही अंश हैं. इसी प्रकार अलका तोमर भी सिसोली से हैं और वह भी प्राचीन हरयाणा सर्व खाप का हिस्सा था. खाप के महत्व को हमें और मीडिया को भी स्वीकार कर लेना चाहिए.
    Laxman Burdak

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय हम सब के लिए और देश के लिए गर्व का विषय है. मेरा विचार है कि हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय खाप व्यवस्था के कारण है. खाप व्यवस्था अनुशासन बनाने और लक्ष्य तय कर काम करने में सहायता करती है. कृष्ण पूनिया राजस्थान से होकर भी चुरू से हैं जो प्राचीन हरयाणा का हिस्सा था.कृष्ण पूनिया अग्रोहा में पैदा हुई इस तरह हरयाणा का ही अंश हैं. इसी प्रकार अलका तोमर भी सिसोली से हैं और वह भी प्राचीन हरयाणा सर्व खाप का हिस्सा था. खाप के महत्व को हमें और मीडिया को भी स्वीकार कर लेना चाहिए.

    Hamara culture, rahan sahan, or khana pina hi aisa hai ki hum koi bhi sports easily try kar sakte hai.Khap system se hi hamara astitav bacha hua hai.Agar ye system na raha to apna culture hi khatam ho jaega...

    south states me to sambhar gel chol (rice) lodhe s teenu tem ,,,,ke ghanta sports karenge ......


    so cheers for jaat girls and boys in these games doing very good job.......
    चालना राही का, चाहे फेर क्यूं ना हो । बैठना भाइयाँ का, चाहे बैर क्यूं ना हो ।।




  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय हम सब के लिए और देश के लिए गर्व का विषय है. मेरा विचार है कि हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय खाप व्यवस्था के कारण है. खाप व्यवस्था अनुशासन बनाने और लक्ष्य तय कर काम करने में सहायता करती है. कृष्ण पूनिया राजस्थान से होकर भी चुरू से हैं जो प्राचीन हरयाणा का हिस्सा था.कृष्ण पूनिया अग्रोहा में पैदा हुई इस तरह हरयाणा का ही अंश हैं. इसी प्रकार अलका तोमर भी सिसोली से हैं और वह भी प्राचीन हरयाणा सर्व खाप का हिस्सा था. खाप के महत्व को हमें और मीडिया को भी स्वीकार कर लेना चाहिए.
    बुरडाक साहब,
    यह सही है की सामाजिक संस्थाएं एवं खाप व्यवस्था किसी समाज विशेष की अनुशाशन प्रणाली को सुचारू रूप से चलाने में एक महत्वपूर्ण भूमिका निभा सकती हैं (अगर नेत्रत्व ठीक हो तो ) परन्तु यह कहना अतिशयोक्ति है की खेलों में लड़कियों की सफलता के लिए किसी खाप विशेष ने कोई विशेष योगदान दिया है I अगरऐसी बात थी तो ओल्यम्पिक में उन देशों की लड़कियों को हम से आगे नहीं होना चाहिए मेडल tally में जहाँ खाप व्यवस्था का कोई नामोनिशान नहीं है, मसलन रूस, चीन, कोरिया , जापान, ऑस्ट्रेलिया, अमरीका,इंग्लैंड आदि. (Some of these societies are often condemned by us for their openness and indecency).

    In most cases, it is the individual effort, a sporting culture of Haryana, genetic effect and relatively sturdy physique, good diet and parent support which are the main reasons of this success. We are, however, proud of all the sportswomen and athletes who have made us proud. Congratulations to all of them.
    Last edited by singhvp; October 13th, 2010 at 07:47 PM.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    .......हरयाणा की लड़कियों की राष्ट्र मंडल खेलों में विजय खाप व्यवस्था के कारण है. ..... खाप के महत्व को हमें और मीडिया को भी स्वीकार कर लेना चाहिए.

    ऑस्ट्रेलिया में खाप हैं क्या, बुरडक जी :-)

    एशियन खेल दूर नहीं हैं । शायद उसके बाद हम देश स्तर पर सोचना शुरु करें ।
    Last edited by Ambijat; October 14th, 2010 at 12:41 AM.
    Keep a bigger heart than than what you had yesterday!

  7. #47

    Medals are achieved due to the individual hard work, discipline, sacrifice and continuous efforts apart from their family's upbringing and supports ONLY.

    Lets not try to credit some good for nothing social structures for their achievement.
    It's better to be alone than in a bad company.

  8. #48
    This article has all statistics;

    Jats lead the pack at Commonwealth Games 2010
    The Jat community, which threatened to scuttle the Commonwealth Games and block the Games baton seeking reservation in government jobs, has turned out to be the nation's flag bearer at the mega sporting event.



    Jats hailing from Haryana who have been in the news recently for female foeticide and for their support of honour killings have so far won 13 gold, four silver and seven bronze medals in various events. It is by far India's top medal winning state at the Games.

    As Krishna Poonia, a Haryanvi Jat and the gold medallist in the women's discus throw event said on Tuesday at the international broadcasting centre, "Our community is more known for female foeticide and honour killings. But so many Jat women have won medals at the Commonwealth Games; it only proves what we are capable of if given the opportunity."
    There are 50 athletes from Haryana competing at the Games, of which a remarkable 24 have won medals. The gold haul includes two shooting gold medals won by Harpreet Singh, a Jat Sikh. Seven Jat girls from Haryana and three Jat Sikh girls from Punjab have also added to the medals list.
    Two Haryana lads Paramjit Samota and Manoj* - both Jats - have entered the boxing finals in their respective weight categories and are assured of at least a silver, thus taking the tally further up. After the victory of Indian hockey team against England on Tuesday, more Haryana athletes are assured of at least a silver medal.
    The Indian hockey team features four Haryana Jat boys - Sandeep Singh, Sardara Singh, Mandeep and Bharat. After the sensation victory against England last night, their fans back in their home state are hoping for a gold against the mighty Australians.
    Other prominent Jats include Sushil Kumar, the current world champion and the gold winner in the 66kg freestyle wrestling category and Mandeep and Manjeet Kaur who won the 4X400 metres relay last evening. Sociologists and researchers said Jats - Haryana's dominant community - had always promoted traditional sports in rural areas including boxing, wrestling and kabaddi.
    It brought home laurels, as Jats linked sports with good infrastructure and livelihood. Dr Pramod Kumar, director, Institute for Development and Communication (IDC) in Chandigarh said that connecting traditional sports with modern infrastructure gave a fillip to Haryana's performance at the CWG.
    He said the community leaders in the state always insisted that the youth should follow the moral code and pick up traditional sports. "A feudal mindset enabled and promoted good sportspersons," he said.
    Shamsher Singh Dhull - a district sports officer and wrestling coach at Kurukshetra said that the majority of youth pick up sports hoping they would get a job. "They work hard since fame in sport also brings in money," he said. Dhull had spotted Rajender Saharan, the gold medal winner in the 55kg Greco-Roman wrestling event at the Games.
    "A majority of the boys and girls come from families who respect traditional sports," he said. They are from small and marginal farmer families. Sports are a means of livelihood for them," he said. "Sports can turn their life around," he added. "They can get a job under the sports quota. Three per cent of government jobs in Haryana are reserved for sportspersons.
    Railways, several PSUs and private organisations also recruit sportspersons on priority." Rajender said the state government attracted youth to take up sports. "Over 46,000 athletes participated in the 'Play For India' scheme.
    The selected boys and girls between 6-14 years and 14-19 years get a monthly allowance of Rs 1,500 and 2,000 respectively. They also get nutritious food, money and a sports kit," he said. In a media interview Poonia had said that it was her in-laws who supported her sporting endeavours.
    Her mother-in-law would take care of her son while she would practice. The best known Jat face up until the Games was boxer Vijender Singh, who won a bronze at the Beijing Olympics in 2008. "His success motivated youth in Haryana to work hard and excel in sports," said Vijender's coach Jagdish Singh.
    The girls from the Jat community who excel in sports in Haryana have not surprised the natives. "The Jats talk about moral ethics, demand change in Hindu Marriage Act and they are against same gotra weddings. Does it mean they repress their daughters," questions Naresh Kadyan, the convenor of Kadyan Khap International.
    "In fact, the community wants their daughters to excel in every field." But when villager Mahabir at Balali near Charkhi Dadri in Bhiwani district wanted his teenage daughters Geeta and Babita to take up wrestling, he had to ask them to have bouts with the local boys as no girl would take up the sport in Haryana's orthodox rural set up.
    But last week, 21-year old Geeta Phogat won a gold medal in the 55kg women's freestyle wrestling and her younger sister Babita won silver in the 51kg event. Their critics have now joined the family to celebrate the achievement.

    Manoj* : Boxer Manoj Kumar is not a Jat. He is a Rod. Wrestler Rajender Kumar (Saharan) is a Jat.

  9. #49
    In Asian Games or World Championships or Olympics, Jats may not perform as superbly as they have performed in these CWG 2010, but I think Haryana's image has improved a lot in India and Punjab surely has been outshined by the Haryanvis. Jat sportspersons will surely be motivated by this success and the possibility can not be overruled that in future we will have more world and olympics champions.

  10. #50
    Quote Originally Posted by vpsingh View Post
    बुरडाक साहब,
    यह सही है की सामाजिक संस्थाएं एवं खाप व्यवस्था किसी समाज विशेष की अनुशाशन प्रणाली को सुचारू रूप से चलाने में एक महत्वपूर्ण भूमिका निभा सकती हैं (अगर नेत्रत्व ठीक हो तो ) परन्तु यह कहना अतिशयोक्ति है की खेलों में लड़कियों की सफलता के लिए किसी खाप विशेष ने कोई विशेष योगदान दिया है I अगरऐसी बात थी तो ओल्यम्पिक में उन देशों की लड़कियों को हम से आगे नहीं होना चाहिए मेडल tally में जहाँ खाप व्यवस्था का कोई नामोनिशान नहीं है, मसलन रूस, चीन, कोरिया , जापान, ऑस्ट्रेलिया, अमरीका,इंग्लैंड आदि. (Some of these societies are often condemned by us for their openness and indecency).

    In most cases, it is the individual effort, a sporting culture of Haryana, genetic effect and relatively sturdy physique, good diet and parent support which are the main reasons of this success. We are, however, proud of all the sportswomen and athletes who have made us proud. Congratulations to all of them.
    Absolutely in sync!!...I don't understand what khaps have to do with medals.
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    Absolutely in sync!!...I don't understand what khaps have to do with medals.

    Apnaa naam chamkaan tayi!
    Khiladi ki khud ki mehnat hoti hai or coah or privar walo ka sahyog. Khap to sirf khiladi ke jeete piche ek bar privar aala gel dhol tha ke aage aa jya se ke mhari khap aale ne medal jeet liya. They might play some other roles in society but Khiladi ko medal jitwane me "0" role hai jma. No other role as far as i can see.
    Last edited by malikdeepak1; October 14th, 2010 at 11:19 AM.
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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by malikdeepak1 View Post
    Apnaa naam chamkaan tayi!
    Khiladi ki khud ki mehnat hoti hai or coah or privar walo ka sahyog. Khap to sirf khiladi ke jeete piche ek bar privar aala gel dhol tha ke aage aa jya se ke mhari khap aale ne medal jeet liya. They might play some other roles in society but Khiladi ko medal jitwane me "0" role hai jma. No other role as far as i can see.
    bilkul sahi kahi..err ebbe to aarakshan aale bhi kah rahe hai ek hum puruskaar denge jat khiladiyoun ko..pehlan bhains arr jhotte kholan ki baat thi sadak pe...........matlab yeh ek mehnat koi aur kare arr sara credit yeh neta le jaa...waah ri politics........
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

  13. #53
    Bhaio,agar koi kisi ko samannit karna chahta hai to isme pareshani ki baat nahi honi chahiye.

    After doing something good a person is known for his work.But before doing anything how we recognize anybody?
    On reservation matter , hum ghar pe baith ke kisi ko criticize nahi kar sakte.koi agar awaj uthana chahta hai to usme kya galat hai.

    hamare jat leaders agar hamare sportspersons ko smannit karte hai to ye achi baat hai.
    चालना राही का, चाहे फेर क्यूं ना हो । बैठना भाइयाँ का, चाहे बैर क्यूं ना हो ।।




  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by malikdeepak1 View Post
    Apnaa naam chamkaan tayi!
    Khiladi ki khud ki mehnat hoti hai or coah or privar walo ka sahyog. Khap to sirf khiladi ke jeete piche ek bar privar aala gel dhol tha ke aage aa jya se ke mhari khap aale ne medal jeet liya. They might play some other roles in society but Khiladi ko medal jitwane me "0" role hai jma. No other role as far as i can see.
    Bhai tamm sare hade jatland be ke karan lag rahe so
    "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent..."

  15. #55
    Bilkul theek, Jiski marji , they can distribute as much as they want, it helps a sportperson. Look Both chautala Sahab and Hooda Sahab are going to distribute prizes on Nov 1st.

    Quote Originally Posted by kuldeeppunia25 View Post
    Bhaio,agar koi kisi ko samannit karna chahta hai to isme pareshani ki baat nahi honi chahiye.

    After doing something good a person is known for his work.But before doing anything how we recognize anybody?
    On reservation matter , hum ghar pe baith ke kisi ko criticize nahi kar sakte.koi agar awaj uthana chahta hai to usme kya galat hai.

    hamare jat leaders agar hamare sportspersons ko smannit karte hai to ye achi baat hai.
    "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent..."

  16. #56
    Which village Rajinder Kumar Saharan comes from ? Can somebody tell ?
    Laxman Burdak

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Which village Rajinder Kumar Saharan comes from ? Can somebody tell ?
    He is from Umri village, Kurukshetra, Haryana.

    Link

  18. #58
    Now Sania Nehwal got gold. She is an amazing Jat Girl. Please find hereunder blog about her being Jat on Headline today:

    http://blogs.intoday.in/index.php?op...l.html&blogs=2

    Also interview of her father Ch Harbir Singh:

    http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/new...-father/169512

    Thanks

    Sanjeev

  19. #59

    Thumbs up anil kumar CWG gold medal winner

    "What the mind of man can think and believe he can definitely achieve".
    Just had a chance to catch up the interview of shri Anil kumar..gold medal winner at CWG 2010 on loksabha television today on 14th of october.
    He described his journey from a common village guy to a champion.It was so heartening to know about his views on wrestling and hard work that he and his family has done.A very simple guy from a humble background rose to a position of achiever by his sheer hard work.How battling against all odds he conquered his fears ,injury and poverty to reach the highest podium is really inspiring for all young people.The power of determination..that's what jats are known for.Salute to him and his family who stood by him when things were down for him.regards to his mother who in his own words "never let supply of milk and ghee diminish in his house".How he described his struggle and his determination to reach to his goal is really legendary.He gave special credit to his wife and emphasis to his daughter birth and said that his life changed after her birth..
    Still any one who doesn't know what jats are all about..!!!!
    justice and truth..
    Many congratulations to him and to all those who made country proud..
    enjoy life.

  20. #60
    Sania Nehwal's village is Dhindhaar Distt Ghaziabad: Please find hereunder the information:

    http://in.jagran.yahoo.com/news/loca...1_6815339.html

    Sanjeev

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