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  1. #261
    The Dadicae (Contd)

    [Page-92]: Ghirghisht, it appears, is only an altered form of Cirghiz or Ghirghiz "wanderer on the steppe" and indicates the country whence the people originally came, namely northern Turkistan. For Cirghiz or Kirghiz merely means a wanderer or nomad in the language of that country, and corresponds with the more familiar term Scythian. Though the Kakar now holds the greater portion of the ancient Dadicae country by a number of clans confederated under his own name, they are not all of the same origin as himself.

    For the other sons of Dani (after whom, in the early Muhammadan period, the northern part of the present Kakar country was named Danistan, as the southern was named Kakaran or Kakaristan), namely Dadi, Naghar, and Pani, are expressly distinguished in Afghan histories, as differing, in many of their manners and customs, as well as in dialect, from the true Kakar. Thus the Naghar are expressly designated as Rajputs, and by the Afghans are commonly called Baroh. They are described as closely allied in origin and domestic customs, as well as in political relations, with the Pani, and they both have most of their clans settled in Shekhawati and Hydarabad, the lesser parts only residing in Kakar territory As to the Dadi, their history is lost in the obscurity to which they have sunk, and nothing more seems to be known about them now than that they have become absorbed into the Kakar tribe, and attached themselves to an immigrant colony from Khojand, with whom they are generally known as Khojandi or Khundi.

    Besides the clans confederated with them in their own country, the Kakar claim kinship with the Gadun of Mahaban and Chach, on both sides the Indus north of Attock. These people on their part call themselves Kakar, and in Chach one of their settlements is called Ghurghusht. They also claim kinship with the Tymani Charaymdc, who are settled in the Siah-band range of the Ghor mountains, to the south-east of Herat. This people, on their part, consider

    [Page-93]: themselves a branch of the Kakar, and hold themselves separate from the rest of the Charaymdc further north, from whom they differ in manners and customs, as well as dialect and religion these being Sunni and those Shia The Tymani are in two divisions, one of which is called Capchac, who are Aymac or "nomade," and the other Darzi, who are settled, and are usually called Afghan.

    The Kakar country on the Indus frontier is about a hundred miles square, and extends from the Waziri border on the north to the Baloch border on the south. The country is traversed from, north to south by a mountain range, on the east and west slopes of which are many pleasant and fertile valleys In the Kanjoghi valley, which runs about thirty miles south-west from the Kand peak, is settled the Sanya clan, and in Bori, an extensive valley running to the south-east, are the Sanjara and Sambhira clans names evidently of Indian origin. The Kakar, in fact, is a collection of several different peoples, who, though now all speaking Pushtu and calling themselves Kakar Puthan, nevertheless maintain their own peculiar customs, manners, and dialects

    The bulk of the Kakar Proper are employed in the asafoetida trade between Herat and India ; but most of the other clans lead a pastoral life, moving from place to place with their cattle and flocks, and living in small societies of three or four families, who pitch their black hair tents, or Kizlidi, in little clusters together. The lesser number are settled in villages and cultivate the soil in the main valleys, as Bori, Zhob, Kanjoghi, etc , etc. The Zhob range separates the Kakar from the Waziri. Their neighbours on the north-west are the Ghilji, on the west the Achakzi and on the south-west the Tarin both Durrani tribes. On the south are the Baloch, the hereditary foe of the Kakar. The Shayuna Dagh, a mountain plateau, in the north-west of the country, is a celebrated pasture ground of the Kakar ; and to the west of the Toba mountain they have a number of narrow little valleys whose several

    [Page-94]: streams combine to form the Lohra river which waters the Peshin valley In spring and summer the whole of this part of the country is said to be a delightful residence, the climate salubrious, and the air perfumed with the odours of the flowers which cover the surface as with a variegated carpet. The country is good, it is the people only who are bad, for they are ignorant, brutal, and savage in their manners, and robbers by intuition, as indeed are all the independent Pathan tribes. We have thus shown that the Pathan comprises not only the modern representatives of the four ancient Pactiyan nations mentioned by Herodotus to whom, alone indeed, the title properly belongs but also a variety of other races, some kindred and some foreign, who have been thrown together within the area of their original country, the ancient Pactiya, by successive waves of conquest, and dynastic revolutions.
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  3. #262


    एक कुर्द लड़की |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  5. #263


    कुर्द औरतें ,घाघरे में | ये इनकी परमपरागत परिधान हे |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  7. #264
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  9. #265


    कुर्दों का पुराना धरम "येज्दी" के नाम से जाना जाता था , ये सूर्य मंदिर में जा कर उपासना करते थे | उनका धार्मिक चिन्ह मौर था | उनके पुराने भवनों पर सूर्य और स्वास्तिक के चिन्ह मिलते हैं | जट्टों में भी पुरानी हवेलियों पर मौर पक्षि का ध्वज लगाया जाता था ,जो की "योधेयों" का भी राष्ट्रीय चिन्ह था | "येज्दी" और योधेय भी कालान्तर में बोलने के कारण अंतर आने से शब्द में भी फरक आ गया हे | ऐसा भाषित होता हे |
    Last edited by ravinderjeet; August 15th, 2012 at 06:57 PM.
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  11. #266


    १८ विं शताब्दी का एक सूर्य मंदिर का चित्र |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  13. #267

    एक सूर्य मंदिर का चित्र |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  15. #268


    ये एक यूद्ध का भितिचित्र हे , जिसमे तीर कमान ,हाथयिओं और नावों का प्रयोग होते हुए दिखाया गया हे | जो की उस इलाके में केवल बाहेर से जाने वाले ही कर सकते थे | वहां के स्थानीय यूधों में तलवार और घोड़े का प्रयोग होता था |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  17. #269


    कुर्द लोग २२ मार्च को नवरोज यानी नववर्ष मनाते हैं और होली की तरह ही आग जला कर खुशियाँ मनाते हैं | इनके अनुसार ये त्यौहार प्रकृति से जुदा हुआ हे |इनकी एक किवंदन्ती के अनुसार इस दिन एक देहक नामक अत्याचारी राजा मारा गया था और उनकी मुक्ति हुई थी | ये कहानी हरन्यकश्यप के मारे जाने के समान ही हे |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  19. #270
    Batar or Batan Jat clan

    [Wiki]Batar[/Wiki] (बाटड़) Vatdhan (वाटधान) Vattadhana (वाटधान) Batdhan (बाटधान) is a gotra of Jats found in Punjab and Rajasthan. They are called Batar in Rajasthan. Watar/Batan clan is found in Afghanistan.[An Inquiry Into the Ethnography of Afghanistan By H. W. Bellew, The Oriental University Institute, Woking, 1891, p.108,119]

    Origin

    Some historians consider Vatadhana (वाटधान), an important Mahabharata Tribe, from whom descended the present Batar Gotra found in Jats and Brahmins.

    History

    They sided with the Kauravas in the Great War of Mahabharata. (Mbh. VI.52.4); hailed from Varana near Kurukshetra (Mbh.V.19.31). [Sandhya Jain:Adideo Arya Devata, A Panoramic view of Tribal-Hindu Cultural Interface, Delhi, 2004] (See - The Mahabharata Tribes)

    This gotra started after republic of the same name during Mahabharata times. Majority of them are now Sikh Jats. [Dr Mahendra Singh Arya, Dharmpal Singh Dudee, Kishan Singh Faujdar & Vijendra Singh Narwar: Ādhunik Jat Itihasa (The modern history of Jats), Agra 1998 p. 268] This is yet another very ancient clan among the Jats. Although mentioned in the ancient period, their history of the later period is unknown. In the eighteenth century Sikh Jats of this clan founded the state of Rasulpur. [Bhim Singh Dahiya, Jats the Ancient Rulers ( A clan study), 1980, Sterling Publishers New Delhi , p. 291 ]

    Vatadhana (वाटधान) - An important Jat and Brahmin Mahabharata tribe, mentioned in geography (VI.10.45), they sided with the Kauravas in the Great War (VI.52.4); hailed from Varana near Kurukshetra (V.19.30).

    They have been mentioned in Sabha Parva in the deeds and triumphs of Nakula, the son of Pandu, during his military campaigns for collecting tribute for Pandava king Yudhisthira's Rajasuya sacrifice, reached the western Dasarna Kingdom. In the western region, Nakula subjugated the Dasarnas, the Sivis, the Trigartas, the Amvashtas, the Malavas, the five tribes of the Karnatas, and those twice born classes that were called the Madhyamakeyas and Vattadhanas.[Sabha Parva, Mahabharata/Book II Chapter 29, (II.29.7)]

    Batan in Afghanistan

    H. W. Bellew[ The Races of Afghanistan/Chapter XI, pp. 97-99] writes in the history of The Ghilji as under: [Page-97]: THE Ghiljai (plural Ghilji) as he calls himself Ghilzai, as strangers call him is a numerous and widespread people, extending from Jalalabad in the east to Kalati Ghilji in the west, and occupying the adjoining slopes and spurs of Sufed Koh, Suleman Koh, and Gul Koh (west of Ghazni). The Afghan traditions place their original settlements in the Kohi Kais or Koh Kasi, but there seems to be some doubt as to the whereabouts of this locality, some considering it to be on the Suleman range, and others on the Siyah-band range of the Ghor mountains. The latter, it would seem, is the more probable, as it was the scene of the romantic episode by which the Afghan genealogists account for the name.

    The story runs to the effect that the second son of Kais (the great ancestral progenitor of the Afghan nationality), who was named Batan, was settled with his people on the Siyah-band range of the Ghor mountains the Paropamisus of the ancients, the Hazarah of the moderns. It appears that they occupied the western hills of the range, and led a migratory life between the highlands in summer and lowlands in winter. Batan, the patriarch of the tribe, was noted for his piety and devotion, and for his earnest attachment to the new faith established in those parts. In consequence of his leading position and religious reputation, he was reverenced as a saint and honored with the title of Shekh.

    During the reign of the Khalif Walid towards the close of the first century of the Muhammadan era, and during the early part of the eighth of our own an Arab army was

    [Page-98]:sent from Baghdad for the conquest of Khurasan and Ghor (a name the signification of which is "mountainous "). On its approach to the northern mountains of Ghor, which were at that time inhabited by Bani Israil and Bani Afghan, and other castaway tribes, one of the princes of the country, who, it appears, was himself of a refugee family, since many generations exiled from Persia, fled his retreat, and sought asylum with Shekh Batan, whose tuman or "tribal camp" was in some neighbouiing mountain recesses. Batan, perceiving that the stranger was of noble birth, welcomed him to the hospitality and protection of his people, and took him into his own house as a member of the family. The stranger guest soon ingratiated himself with his hosts, and won the confidence of the chief, who always consulted him in the affairs of the tribe as if he were a member of it. In fact he was made quite at home, and treated with the fullest liberty and trust.

    The Shekh had a daughter, whose name was Matto, a handsome maiden in the bloom of youth. In the simple manners and freedom of action that characterize life in camp, the inmates of the tent or booth were thrown much together in the routine of daily domestic life. Well, to cut a long story short the guest and his host's daughter fell in love with each other, and carried on a clandestine amour with the natural consequences. The first signs were early discovered by the quick eye of the mother, who at once communicated her suspicions to the girl's father. The old Shekh Afghan- lite was for summary punishment and the swift execution of both the guilty parties. But the mother, with keener perception and more far-seeing calculation, suggested the propriety of first ascertaining whether their guest Shah, Husen by name really was of the royal descent he had represented himself to be, and whether the future of his prospects were as bright as he had colored them.

    For this purpose a trusted domestic was despatched to the home in Northern Ghor, indicated by Shah Husen, to find

    [Page-99]:out all about his family and antecedents. He duly returned with a favourable report; and even more than confirming all that Shah Husen had said of himself. On this, the parents, accepting the situation, hastily married the couple to avoid the imminent scandal Shortly after these occurrences, Bibi Matto presented Shah Husen with a son, whom the irate old Shekh, in allusion to the circumstances connected with his birth, named Ghazoe "son of a thief" the father having stolen his daughter's honor. The name in time came to be used to distinguish the whole tribe, and by vulgar usage became changed to Ghilzai.

    Such, in brief, is the Afghan account. It seems to point to an early mixture of the original Ghilji with some tribe of Ghor, perhaps of Persian descent, though the name Batan sounds of Indian origin (the Sanskiit name of the Brahman priests being Bata), and the title of Shekh being the one usually applied in India to converts from Brahmanism to Islam.
    Laxman Burdak

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  21. #271
    Jats in Afghanistan

    H. W. Bellew in book [Wiki]The Races of Afghanistan[/Wiki] writes about the ancient history of Afghans. I reproduce from [Wiki]The Races of Afghanistan/Chapter II[/Wiki] historical content related with Jats.

    The traditions of this people refer them to Syria as the country of their residence at the time they were carried away into captivity by Bukhtunasar (Nebuchadnezzai), and planted as colonists in deficient parts of Persia and Media. (p.15)

    This people was settled in the Ghor country, to the east of Herat, at the time that Muhammad announced his mission as the Prophet of God about 622 A.D. And it was there that Khalid-bin-Walid, a chief of the Curesh tribe of Arabs, came to them with the tidings of the new faith, and an invitation to join the Prophet's standard. (p.15)

    Afghan people were originally of an Arab tribe, and had linked their fortunes with the Israelites in Syria, and shared the lot of the ten tribes which were carried away into captivity. The chief or leader Of this party was named Kais or Kish. (p.16)

    Only some three or four hundred years ago that their priests began concocting genealogies and histories to give form and cohesion to the very mixed nationality. (p.16)

    Sakistan, Sagistan, Sajistan, Sistan from the Saka, -who were probably the same people as the Saka Hamuvarga mentioned in the tables of Darius (see Rawlmson's Herodotus) "Saka dwellers on the Hamu" or Amu, which has from the earliest times been the name of the lower course of the Oxus river , the latter term being the Greek form of Wakhsh, which is the name of the Upper Oxus above the point where it is joined by the Panjah. (p.18)

    The fictions of the Afghan genealogists and historians are absurd enough, and their facts wonderfully distorted ; but for the careful enquirer they have their value as guides to a right conclusion. Thus, from the Kais above-mentioned, whose own tribe was originally but an insignificant people as to numbers and power, the Afghan genealogists derive all the Pukhto-speaking peoples of Afghanistan, partly by direct descent, and partly by adoption on account of a similarity of language and social polity. (p.19)

    Kais, they say, married a daughter of that Khalid-bin-Walid who brought his people the first tidings of the Prophet and his doctrine, and by her he had three sons, whom he named respectively, Saraban, Batan, and Ghurghusht. (p.19)

    The Zamand were originally settled on the lower course of the Arghasan river and in Peshin or Foshang, as it was at that time 8-9 H or 630 A.D. called. They were subsequently ousted by the Tarin tribe of Afghans, and emigrated to Multan in large numbers. (p.19)

    The Kansi early emigrated to Hindustan and the Dakkan, and are not now known in Afghanistan, though by some the Shinwari are supposed to belong to this division. (p.20)

    These several tribes are divided into a number of clans and sub-tribes, the names of many of which are distinctly of Indian origin. The special Afghan tribe, however, is called Abdali, and is more commonly known since the time of Ahmad Shah the first independent sovereign of Afghanistan of this race by the name Durrani. The Durrani comprise the following chief divisions or clans, namely, Saddozai, Populzai, Barakzai, Halakozai, Achakzai, Nurzai, Ishaczai, and Khagwani. (p.20)

    The Saddozai clan furnished the first independent Shahs, or kings, of the Durrani dynasty, and the Barakzai furnished the Amirs, or dictators. (p.20)

    And we know from the records of history that, apart from the transfer or displacement of populations consequent upon prior irruptions of Scythic hordes from the north-east, there took place about two centuries earlier, or during the fifth and beginning of the sixth of our era, a very powerful emigration of an Indian people from the western bank of the Indus to the valley of the Helmand and its tributary streams, towards a kindred people already settled there. (p.21)

    This emigration en masse was owing, it would appear, to the irruption into the Indus valley of the Jats, and Katti, and other Scythic tribes, who about that period poured over the Hindu Kush. The Jats and Katti the Getes and Catti of European authors are now largely represented in this seat of their early conquest in the Jat (or Gujar as he is commonly styled) agricultural population of the Panjab, and in the Katti of Katti war or Kattiyawar. (p.21)

    In Afghanistan the Jat is known by the name of Gujar, which is a Hindi term expressive of his calling as a rearer of cattle and a husbandman, and he is found in the greatest numbers in the Yusufzai country, especially in the hill districts of Swat, Buner, and Bajawar. (p.21-22)

    This body of Indian emigrants, who migrated from the Indus to the Helmand, was composed of a people professing the Budhist religion, and who, fleeing away from the irresistible wave of Scythic invasion, abandoned their native country, and took along with them the most sacred and cherished relic of their spiritual lawgiver the water-pot of Budha. (p.22)

    The Indian people who emigrated from the Indus and established themselves as a powerful colony on the Helmand were the Gandarii, and their country was the Gandaria of the Greek authors. They were the Gandhari, and their country the Sindhu Gandhara of the Hindu writers. (p.22-23)
    Laxman Burdak

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  23. #272
    Baidwan Jat clan

    H.A. Rose writes that Baidwan is an important Hindu-Sikh Jat tribe in Ambala. H.A. Rose writes about its etymology that Fancifully it is derived from baid, a physician — who rescued a bride of the clan from robbers and was rewarded by their adopting his name. ( [Wiki]A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B[/Wiki] , p.35)
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  25. #273
    Barya Jat clan

    Barya (बरया) Bariyan (बारियान) Barian (बरियान) Baria (बरिया) Varya (वरया) gotra Jats live in Punjab and Madhya Pradesh.

    History

    H.A. Rose[1] writes that Baria (बरिया) or Varya (वरया) tribe are said in Jullandhur to be Solar race descended from Raja Karan of the Mahabharat. Their ancestor Mal (!) came from Jal Kahra in Patiala about 500 vears ago. Those of Sialkot, where they are found in small numbers and rank as Jats say they are of Lunar Race descent. The tribe is practically confined to Patiala and Nabha. Another form of the name appears to be 'Warah.' The Warah are descendants of Warah, whose grandson

    [Page-66]: Rājā Banni Pāl, is said to have founded Bhatinda, after conquering Bhatner and marrying the daughter of its Rajā. Banni Pāl's son Udasi was defeated by a king of Delhi but received a jagir. His son Sundar had seven sons, of whom the eldest founded Badhar in Nabha. (Cf. Barian).

    H.A. Rose[2] writes that Barian (बरियान), a tribe of Jats, claiming to be Lunar Race of the Jaler, Sahi and Lakhi farailies through its eponym whose descendant Tok settled in Sialkot. (cf. Baria).

    In Hathigumpha inscription

    Besides [Wiki]Hathigumpha inscription[/Wiki] of [Wiki]Kharavela[/Wiki] there are some other minor Brahmi inscriptions in the twin hillocks of Udayagiri and Khandagiri, which were deciphered earlier by Prof R D Banergy during 1915-16 (Epigraphic Indica-XIII) and BM Baraua (Indian Historical Quarterly-XIV). Sadananda Agrawal has given further clarifications about them. These seem to be related with this Jat clan as under:

    VIII-Jambesavara cave inscription: This inscription has been engraved over the entrances to the inner chamber of the cave.

    महादस बरयाय नकियस लेनं - Translation :- The cave of Mahamāda Nākiya and Bāriyā.

    This is one more evidence of Jat clans ruling at Kalinga in Orissa during Kharavelas rule and even prior during Ashokas rule.

    Reference -

    1. ↑ A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B , p.65-66

    2. ↑ A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B , p.66

    Note - You may read more on Jatland Wiki at - [Wiki]Barya[/Wiki]
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  27. #274
    [Wiki]Bhangu[/Wiki], [Wiki]Nol[/Wiki] and [Wiki]Sial[/Wiki] Jat clans/

    H.A. Rose writes that Bhangu (भंगू), Bhanggu (भंग्गु), a Jat tribe which does not claim Rajput origin. The Bhangu and Nol were among the earliest inhabitants of the Jhang District and held the country about Shorkot, the [Wiki]Nol[/Wiki] holding that round [Wiki]Jhang[/Wiki] itself before the advent of the Sials, by whom both tribes were overthrown. Probably the same as the Bhango.[Ref - A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B , p.84]

    It is interesting to get first time in history the mention of [Wiki]Nol[/Wiki] Jat clan as rulers in Jhang
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  29. #275
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Baidwan Jat clan

    H.A. Rose writes that Baidwan is an important Hindu-Sikh Jat tribe in Ambala. H.A. Rose writes about its etymology that Fancifully it is derived from baid, a physician — who rescued a bride of the clan from robbers and was rewarded by their adopting his name. ( A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B , p.35)
    It would be interesting to find out and learn about the earlier caste/gotra history of the Baid, the founder of the Baidwan clan. Would anybody come ford to resolve the knot?

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  31. #276
    My gotra is baidwan/vaidwan...tried to know the roots of our clan but no clue yet. It would be very fascinating if any information can be collected for baidwans
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

  32. #277

    Aye-Aye Sir . . . . !!

    Quote Originally Posted by ravinderjeet View Post
    मेरे विचार से कुर्दों पर भी कुछ खोज बीन होनी चाहिए |

    >>>>




    >> iranian.com: Jats and Gutians - Kurds and Gutians, Samir Abbas : http://www.iranian.com/History/2005/March/Gutians/ <<


    As per My grip over the topic, there is still plenty of room for the scope of improvement in the above article ( link to article has been provided ); but We ( the Jatlanders ) should cheer-up those non-Jat historians who have written notes & introduced their Research-Work Positively on Jat History with a Neutral Approach to People !! Let's wish that may They continue to serve interested readers and budding Scholars by exploring the True History of Human ethnic-groups with a Neutral Approach !!


    Let Us greet Them and let Them be aware of the fact that We really are grateful towards Them for being Logical !! : http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...en-(non-Jats)-!!




    <<<<
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  34. #278
    धन्यवाद हरदीप भाई ,मन्ने समीर अब्बास और कई थां भी पढ्या स ,काफी आछा लिखे स जट्टों पे |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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  36. #279
    Quote Originally Posted by ravinderjeet View Post
    धन्यवाद हरदीप भाई ,मन्ने समीर अब्बास और कई थां भी पढ्या स ,काफी आछा लिखे स जट्टों पे |
    रविंदरजीत जी, मेरे ख्याल से आप शायद समर अब्बास जी की बात कर रहे हैं |


    * समर अब्बास जी का जट इतिहास पर पेश किया गया article : http://www.iranchamber.com/history/a...serbs_jats.php


    * समीर अब्बास जी का जट इतिहास पर पेश किया गया article : http://www.iranian.com/History/2005/March/Gutians/


    और दोनों ही भीम सिंह दहिया जी के मज़बूत प्रशंसक मालूम होते हैं !!
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  38. #280
    Bhukk Jat clan
    Bhukk (भुक्क) a Baloch clan is found in Montgomery, Ferozepur, and in Bahawalpur, in which State they call themselves Jats.(Ref:[Wiki]A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/B[/Wiki] , p.108)
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