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    Research on history of Jat clans

    While discussing research on history of Burdak clan there was a demand to discuss about the Research on history of other Jat clans.

    We have compiled three informations about each Jat clans

    1. Name of ancient person/tribe

    2. Vansha to which this person/tribe belonged

    3. Originated Jat Gotras from above person/tribe

    This info is available on Jatland Wiki at http://www.jatland.com/home/The_Ancient_Jats

    This information is based on history of each clan as recorded by various Jat historians, genealogies available in Mahabharata, genealogies in Bhagawata Purana etc. On the basis of this compilation we find that Jat clans are from -

    1. Chandravansha 2. Suryavansha 3. Nagavansha and 4. Shiva Vansha

    Majority of Jat clans is from Nagavansha who were the original inhabitants of India. There were constant attempts to exterminate them by dominant rulers be it Pandavas or Guptas.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Research on history of Jat clans (Contd.)

    Each clan history on Jatland Wiki has been written in the style -

    1. General comment about the clan and states in which people of this clan live

    2. Origin - Origin of the clan based on records

    3. History - If available

    4. Distribution - Its distribution in states and districts and villages in districts

    5. Notable persons from the clan

    6. Image gallery of people from the clan

    7. Categories at the bottom

    Last three items are made available by Wiki editors and members themselves. This part is strongest evidence in favour of the history of clan created by Jatland Community. Earlier historians were lacking this evidence.


    Categories at the bottom include for example -

    Categories: Jat Gotras | Rajasthan | Haryana | Punjab | Madhya Pradesh | Gotras in Churu | Gotras in Jaipur | Gotras in Sikar | Gotras in Nagaur | Gotras in Rajsamand | Gotras in Hanumangarh | Gotras in Sirsa | Gotras in Gurdaspur | Ancient Jat Gotras | The Mahabharata Tribes | The Ancient Jats

    If a clan is distributed in one or two districts with only few villages it is Categorized as -

    Categories:Rare Distribution - See at http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:Rare_Distribution

    If a clan has no distribution recorded so far it is Categorized as -

    Categories:No Distribution - See at http://www.jatland.com/home/Category:No_Distribution
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 27th, 2011 at 05:02 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Categories:No Distribution

    The following 90 pages are in this category, out of 90 total.
    A - * Abuda * Achashwa * Adirana * Air * Ajra * Andhra * Anil * Anjuria * Aparajit * Apt * Aratt * Aryak * Ashwatar * Asit * Asrodh * Avalak * Avyay * Ayahat

    B - * Bakhar * Bhenron

    D - * Dhaniwal

    G - * Gadar * Gathchal * Gharooka

    H - * Handauria * Haranwal * Hudah

    I - * Imeguh

    J - * Jathar

    K - * Kachha * Kaith * Kaithoria * Kalash * Kalirambha * Kamal * Kekeraul * Khorwar * Kikat * Konkan * Kothar * Krivi * Kulawat * Kuninda

    N - * Narei

    O - * Odasi

    P - * Padhari * Pagwat * Palardal * Pandhari * Pandul * Pandur * Parsane * Paudiya * Pehalayan * Podan * Pohal * Puchhale * Pundir

    R - * Rajiria * Rotr

    S - * Sagasail * Sahas * Sangu * Satvat * Shalv * Shergill * Shriwag * Shvitra * Sikharwan * Siparota * Sismal * Sitarwar * Sohron * Surdatt

    T - * Takk * Tankor * Toran * Toras

    U - * Ugrak * Unai

    V - * Vaharwal * Vamin * Varan * Varsir * Vasoli * Vavan * Vijania * Vrasoli

    Y - * Yatesar * Yolya
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 27th, 2011 at 10:23 AM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    बहित ही बढ़िया ढंग से पर्स्तुत किया गया हे भाई साब | अत्यंत प्रसंशनीय कार्य |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

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    Category:Rare Distribution
    The following 97 pages are in this category, out of 97 total.

    A - * Age * Ameria * Andari * Arawat

    B - * Babbar * Badrak * Basath * Bharuka * Bhoj * Bikarwal * Bilvan * Bodian

    C - * Chavel

    D - * Daseya * Dhiman

    F - * Fulfakhar

    H - * Harchatwal * Haumal * Hulka

    J - * Jagunda

    K - * Kachchhawa * Kak * Kamboj * Kanara * Kanchap * Kandahar * Kandwal * Kapooria * Karaskar * Kargha * Karkar * Karmir * Kashyap * Khadap * Khairawi * Khanda * Khangal * Kharwal * Khasa * Khichi * Khoye Maurya * Kiram * Kitawat * Kondal * Kulya * Kumud * Kunawan * Kunda * Kundana * Kundarwal * Kunjar * Kuralya * Kush * Kuthar

    L - * Lodha * Lohmarod

    M - * Machhar * Madhu * Madkalya * Malaya * Malhi * Malodia * Matira * Molla

    N - * Nagil * Nawad * Nepa * Nimbad * Nitwal

    O - * Odra * Ora

    P - * Padwal * Pahal * Paliwal * Pandel * Pandu * Pandya * Panja * Parodiya * Pote

    R - * Raail

    S - * Sania * Sankhunia * Sarang * Siga * Sodh * Sor * Sutla * Suwal

    T - * Taga * Tanka * Titar * Tushar

    U - * Udar * Utkanya

    V - * Varda * Vehan

    Note - The * shows that its page is on Jatland Wiki. You can search and see details on Jatland Wiki.
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 27th, 2011 at 10:36 AM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Categories:No Distribution and Rare Distribution

    The clans included in these categories are from Nagavanshi clans. Some Nagavanshi rulers were completely exterminated. We get evidences from Mahabharata.

    Adi Parva, Mahabharata/Mahabharata Book I Chapter 57 narrates the Names of all those Nagas that fell into the fire of this snake-sacrifice:

    Nagas born of Vasuki

    "Kotisa, Manasa, Purna, Cala, Pala Halmaka, Pichchala, Kaunapa, Cakra, Kalavega, Prakalana, Hiranyavahu, Carana, Kakshaka, Kaladantaka.

    Nagas of the race of Takshaka

    Puchchandaka, Mandalaka, Pindasektri, Ravenaka; Uchochikha, Carava, Bhangas, Vilwatejas, Virohana; Sili, Salakara, Muka, Sukumara, Pravepana, Mudgara and Sisuroman, Suroman and Mahahanu.

    Nagas of race of Airavata

    And Paravata, Parijata, Pandara, Harina, Krisa, Vihanga, Sarabha, Meda, Pramoda, Sauhatapana.

    Nagas of the race Kauravya

    Eraka, Kundala Veni, Veniskandha, Kumaraka, Vahuka, Sringavera, Dhurtaka, Pratara and Astaka.

    Nagas of race of Dhritarashtra

    Sankukarna, Pitharaka, Kuthara, Sukhana, and Shechaka; Purnangada, Purnamukha, Prahasa, Sakuni, Dari, Amahatha, Kumathaka, Sushena, Vyaya, Bhairava, Mundavedanga, Pisanga, Udraparaka, Rishabha, Vegavat, Pindaraka; Raktanga, Sarvasaranga, Samriddha, Patha and Vasaka; Varahaka, Viranaka, Suchitra, Chitravegika, Parasara, Tarunaka, Maniskandha and Aruni.

    We have this chapter on Jatland Wiki t http://www.jatland.com/home/Adi_Parv...k_I_Chapter_57

    The Nagavanshi Jat clans having no distribution are mainly from these Nagavanshi rulers.

    Rare Distribution Nagavanshi Jat clans from very interior areas of Madhya Pradesh and southern Rajasthan. These people being in remote areas could not be exterminated hence survived but lesser in population.

    Apart from Mahabharata chapter as indicated above we have place names which indicate where Nagas were massacred. For example in M P in Ujjain district there is place called Nagda which is Naga+Daha means burning of Nagas. Similarly in Satna district of M P there was a state called which means Naga+Vadh.
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 27th, 2011 at 05:20 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Rare Distribution Gotra - Kalya

    It is very interesting to find rare gotras. On 3 September 2007 I put following entry on Jatland Wiki -

    Kalya (कल्या) is a gotra of Jats. These people are descendants of Nagavanshi Kali Jats.
    References - Dr Mahendra Singh Arya, Dharmpal Singh Dudee, Kishan Singh Faujdar & Vijendra Singh Narwar: Ādhunik Jat Itihasa (The modern history of Jats), Agra 1998, p. 230

    I could not find its distribution in any record. On 27 January 2011 I got name of a person from village Olamba - in Khategaon tahsil in Dewas district in Madhya Pradesh. He was - Ramotar Patel Olamba (Geela) - Janpad Panchayat Khategaon, Mob:9826529893 . I contacted him on Phone given here on Jatland Wiki at - http://www.jatland.com/home/Olamba . First of all he was so happy that he being in this interior village of M P, some body on earth has called him. Any way I asked him Gotras in his village. He told me in a minute or so with no of families as under:

    * Bananga (4) * Choyal (1) * Didel (1) * Geela (4) * Inaniya (1) * Kalya (1) * Khileri (3) * Khoja (1) * Pachar (1) * Padauda (2) * Punia (1) * Roj (3) * Thori (3)

    His own Gotra was Geela and he knew his migration - They Came from Rajlani in tahsil Bhopalgarh Distrct Jodhpur about 300 years back .

    Here I found one family of Kalya Jat in this village. I added it in the history of Kalya Gotra at http://www.jatland.com/home/Kalya

    This way Kaly Gotra came from No distribution Category to Rare distribution category. So far I identified only one family of Kalya gotra and that too in M P.
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 28th, 2011 at 10:37 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    Rare Distribution Gotra - Chavel (चवेल)
    We started its history with single line on 18 September 2007 - Chavel (चवेल) Chawel (चवेल) is gotra of Jats. This gotra started after person named Chivilaka (चिविलक) son of Maharaja Lambodara (लम्बोदर). References: Dr Mahendra Singh Arya, Dharmpal Singh Dudee, Kishan Singh Faujdar & Vijendra Singh Narwar: Ādhunik Jat Itihasa (The modern history of Jats), Agra 1998 p.243

    4 September 2010 :We found Asop (आसोप) village in Bhopalgarh tahsil of Jodhpur district in Rajasthan is inhabited by Chawel Gotra Jats.

    4 September 2010 : I searched the genealogy of Chivilaka of Andhra dynasty from Bhagawat Puran and put it on Jatland Wiki at http://www.jatland.com/home/Chivilaka

    The genealogy of Chivilaka of Andhra dynasty is : Krishna → Srisantakarna → Pournamasa → LambodaraChivilaka → Meghasvati → Atamana → Anishta Karman → HaleyaTalaka → Purishabhiru → SunandanaChakora → 8 Bahuka or Bahus ending in Sivasvati → Gomati → Purimat → MedasiraSivaskanda → Yajnasri → → Vijaya → Chandravijna → Salomadhi

    The genealogy of Chivilaka of Andhra dynasty helped to find origin of following more Jat Gotras:

    Lambodara = Lamboria (लम्बोरिया) Lamboriya (लम्बोरिया) Lamoria (लमोरिया) Lamoriya (लमोरिया) gotras have originated from King Lambodara (लम्बोदर) in the genealogy of Krishna

    Haleya = Hala (हाला) Hela (हेला) gotra of Jats are descendants of Maharaja Haleya (हालेय)

    Talaka = Talan (तलान) Talan (तालान) Talanu (तालानू) Tahlan (ताहलाण) Taliyan (तालियान) gotra originated from Yaduvanshi ancestor Talaka (तलक)

    Sunandana = Surahe (सुराहे) gotra of Jats originated from Maharaja Sunandana (सुनंदन)

    Chakora = Chakora (चकोरा) gotra of Jats originated from Chakora.

    Bahuka = Burdaks to be the descendants of Maharaja Bahuka (बाहुक)

    Medashira = Motsara (मोटसरा) Mothsara (मोठसरा) gotra of Jats found in Rajasthan are descendants of Maharaja Medashira (मेदशिरा)

    Shiva Skanda = Shokeen (शॉकीन) Shaukhanda (शौखंदा) Sheokhand (श्योकंद) Seokand (स्योकंद) Seokund (स्योकंद) Sheokand (श्योकंद) Shyaukand (श्यौकंद) originated from Shiva Skanda

    28 January 2011 : I found in Jat Vaibhav Smarika Khategaon a village Ajnas (अजनास) in Khategaon tahsil in Dewas district in Madhya Pradesh inhabited by Chivel Gotra. There were names of two persons from this clan which I put it on Jatland Wiki at http://www.jatland.com/home/Ajnas

    # Rajesh Chavenl - Village:Ajnas, Tah:Khategaon, Dewas. Mob:9926761871
    # Mukesh Chavenl - Village:Ajnas, Tah:Khategaon, Dewas. Mob:9165316224

    We put phone no of some persons in each clan and village so as to verify further.

    This way keep on researching rare Jat Gotras.
    Last edited by lrburdak; January 28th, 2011 at 11:12 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

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    bahut khoob sir ji,,it shows great effort put in..!!
    DeStInY LiE$ iN tHe $tReNgTh oF uR dReAm$...!!
    JAT ----------> JUSTICE AND TRUTH

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    History of Vinda gotra

    Vinda (विंदा) Vendha (वेंधा) is gotra of Jats. This gotra started from their Mahabharata period ancestor king Vinda (विन्द). [References: Dr Mahendra Singh Arya, Dharmpal Singh Dudee, Kishan Singh Faujdar & Vijendra Singh Narwar: Ādhunik Jat Itihasa (The modern history of Jats), Agra 1998 p. 268

    Today I found one Narayan Prasad Vinda - Bhopal, Mob:9826489595. It is the only family in this gotra identified so far.

    Sabha Parva, Mahabharata/Book II Chapter 28 mentions Sahadeva's march towards the southern direction: kings and tribes defeated. ....Allying himself with the vanquished tribes the prince then marched towards the countries that lay on the banks of the Narmada. And defeating there in battle the two heroic kings of Avanti, called Vinda and Anuvinda. (Mahabharata:2.28.10)

    उज्जैन का राजनैतिक इतिहास काफी लम्बा रहा है. उज्जैन के गढ़ क्षेत्र से हुयी खुदाई में आद्यैतिहासिक (protohistoric ) एवं प्रारंभिक लोहयुगीन सामग्री प्रचुर मात्र में प्राप्त हुई है. पुरानों व महाभारत में उल्लेख आता है की वृष्णि-वीर कृष्ण व बलराम यहाँ गुरु सांदीपनी के आश्रम में विद्याप्राप्त करने हेतु आये थे. कृष्ण की एक पत्नी मित्रवृन्दा उज्जैन की ही राजकुमारी थी. उसके दो भाई विन्द एवं अनुविन्द महाभारत युद्ध में कौरवों की और से युद्ध करते हुए वीर गति को प्राप्त हुए थे.

    उज्जैन के इतिहास का उपरोक्त विवरण स्पस्ट करता है की विन्द अवन्ती या उज्जैन के राजा थे जो महाभारत में मारे गए. विन्द गोत्र की कम जन संख्या होने का यह कारण है.

    जाटलैंड विकी पर यहाँ पढ़ें - http://www.jatland.com/home/Vendha
    Laxman Burdak

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    are sir mhare gotra ki history bhi update kardo jatland.com pe kuch jyada padhe likhe jaat bhaiyo ne dono in sab gotra ko alag alag update karke ek dum alag alag kar diya hai


    LavaVanshi Kshatri jaat ka itihaas short main,

    detail main bataunga to bahot lambi history hai mhare gotra ki

    Shri ram Chandra ji ke do putra the ek Lava aur dusre kusha,
    Mhara gotra Lohra/Laur aur Loras Kshatri (khatri) LavaVanshi Kshatri jaat hi hain,,,
    Jaise jaise waqt gujarta gya log hamein Lauh or Loh kahne lage yayu kaho hum Lauh Or Loh kahlane lage,,,,

    Lauh/Loh ka matlab to aap sabko pta hi hoga lohe ke samaan taaqat wala,,,,,,

    Aur fir samay ke sath shabdo ke apbhransh (word bigadna boli aur kshetra ke anusaar) ke kaaran log hamein Lauh se Laur/Lor kahne lage Ya yu kaho kahlane lage aur Loh se Lohra/Laura kahne lage,,,,,

    Ab aate Hain khatri gotra pe
    khatri koi gotra nahi khatri bhi shabdo ke apbhransh ke kaaran hi prachalan main aaya,,,,,,
    jo jaat apne ko khatri likhte hain wo bhi LavaVanshi Jaat hi Hain, Khatri jaat pahle apne aap ko LavaVanshi kshatri Jaat hone ke kaaran apne ko Loras Kshatri likhte the jo samay ke saath, bhasa/boli aur shabdo ke apbhransh ke kaaran Loras Kshatri se khatri likhne lag gye ya yu kaho ki khatri likhna prachalan main aa gya….
    To bhaiyo Loras kshatri ka apbhransh hi khatri hai....

    Ab aate hain Badgoti gotra par jo Laur Gotra Ka Hi sab gotra hai
    Badgoti means "Bade Gotra Ka". Badgoti Jats are also known as Laur/Lor or we can say that correct description for Badgotis should be Badgoti Laur/Lor by which they are generally known in Bulandshahr.
    They are basically the generation of very rich Jats having ownershipof big lands. They are also very much dedicated towards nation. They fought against "Muslims and Britishers" by their own, for the freedom of the nation. Now a days also we can find them maximum in Defence and Police services. You will find them very hard working, honest, brave, sincere, dedicated and responsible towards their work. They are highly reputed Jats in western Uttar Pradesh.

    LavaVansh Kshatri jaat Rajisthan, Uttar Pradesh, Delhi, Haryana, Punjab, Madhya Pradesh, Gujrat, Aur Maharashtra Main Base Huye hain….

    Mhare gotra ke 300 se upar gaam hain bhaiyo
    Bhasa (boli) aur kshetra ke antar ke Kaaran Koi apne ko Laur/Lor lilkhta hai, aur koi Lohra/Laura Likhta Hai
    Aur Jo Loras kshatri likhte the wo jaat aaj apne ko Khatri likhte hain….

    For your kind information information all LavaVanshi Kshatri Jaato
    Har saal march main Narela ( Delhi ) gaam main hamare gotra ki annual meeting hoti hai is baar ek community ka gathan kiya jayega aur hamare gotra ki history se related ek patrika ka sampdan hoga aur wo patrika hamare gotra ke gaamo main baanti jayegi,,,,,,,

    filhal ke liye Jitne bhi LavaVanshi Kshatri jaat ise padh rahe hai abhi isi waqt copy karke apni apni wall pe share karo

    LavaVanshi Kshatri Jaat
    Loras Kshatri Jaat
    Monu Laur Jaat

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  23. #12

    Jat clan name "Hundal"

    IF we do sandhi vichhedh of Jat family name "Hundal" it becomes Hun + Dal. Huns again seem to be from the same origin as discussed before and Dal means "Group". In exact translation it becomes "Dal of Huns" or "Group of Huns".

  24. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    IF we do sandhi vichhedh of Jat family name "Hundal" it becomes Hun + Dal. Huns again seem to be from the same origin as discussed before and Dal means "Group". In exact translation it becomes "Dal of Huns" or "Group of Huns".
    If so then what will say of this;

    http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hundal

    Any relations between our hundals and their hundals? Does "dal" still mean "group" if we take British version of the surname?

    RK^2
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  25. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    If so then what will say of this;

    http://www.surnamedb.com/Surname/Hundal

    Any relations between our hundals and their hundals? Does "dal" still mean "group" if we take British version of the surname?

    RK^2

    The meaning you state might be of newer origin then the word "Hundal" iteself. As most "Jat" clans trace their ancesstory many hundreads of years before christ, so the origins of the word might be present more in the language itself rather then the place as referred in your stated text. On the other hand it is very probable that these people migrated to the "said" area at certain point of time in history or the area was named after them when they moved to that area.

  26. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    IF we do sandhi vichhedh of Jat family name "Hundal" it becomes Hun + Dal. Huns again seem to be from the same origin as discussed before and Dal means "Group". In exact translation it becomes "Dal of Huns" or "Group of Huns".
    Kudos to your general knowledge ! By the same logic, do Jat gotras Hunga (हुंगा), Hunjan (हुंजन) and Hunsawat (हुंसावत) also originate from Huns, since these words begin with English spelling 'Hun'? Or does every word starting with 'hun' has some connection with barbaric Huns?

    Hundal (हुंडळ) gotra is believed to be one of gotras belonging to Suryavanshi group? You mean Suryavansh also started at the time of Hun invasion? And did English language (Roman script) exist in India when Huns came here?

    .
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  27. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by dndeswal View Post
    Kudos to your general knowledge ! By the same logic, do Jat gotras Hunga (हुंगा), Hunjan (हुंजन) and Hunsawat (हुंसावत) also originate from Huns, since these words begin with English spelling 'Hun'? Or does every word starting with 'hun' has some connection with barbaric Huns?

    Hundal (हुंडळ) gotra is believed to be one of gotras belonging to Suryavanshi group? You mean Suryavansh also started at the time of Hun invasion? And did English language (Roman script) exist in India when Huns came here?

    .
    Most of the or rather all of the European language are called "Indo European Languages" therefore there are lot of root words which sound similar, there is nothing "English or Roman" about them. The root words are either similar or are spoken almost similar based on their local accent. Now the context of "Indo European is not restricted to today´s boundaries of India" as in ancient times "Bharat" as most Indians call it had very bigger area.

    As per "Survavanshi" and "Chandravanshi" concept, if i remember correctly, these words related with the way of life led by people, most agricultural people in ancient times were heavily dependent on "sun" for their agriculture, so they connected themselves with the "Sun" whereas the people who led a nomadic and life of animal grazing were connected with "moon" for their herd migration. This can be seen in case of people grazing their animals in deserts, they usually migrate their animals to a newer grazing area during the night time as during the day it is very hot.
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  28. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    Most of the or rather all of the European language are called "Indo European Languages" therefore there are lot of root words which sound similar, there is nothing "English or Roman" about them. The root words are either similar or are spoken almost similar based on their local accent. Now the context of "Indo European" does not hold true in today's context of Indian boundary, as in ancient times "Bharat" as most Indians call it had very bigger area.

    As per "Survavanshi" and "Chandravanshi" concept, if i remember correctly, these words related with the way of life led by people, most agricultural people in ancient times were heavily dependent on "sun" for their agriculture, so they connected themselves with the "Sun" whereas the people who led a nomadic and life of animal grazing were connected with "moon" for their herd migration. This can be seen in case of people grazing their animals in deserts, they usually migrate their animals to a newere grazing area during the night time as during the day it is very hot.


    We must also learn to differentiate between "Generic words" and "absolute words". Lot of "Jat" family names derive their origin from a singular family member from whom the family started, these are more "absolute family names.
    Whereas there are family names which are more "Generic" in nature such as "Huns", "Huns" is a broad concept which can not be connected to only one family name, rather there seem to lot of family names deriving their origin from Huns.


    On the other hand "Hundal" which is purely a "Jat" clan name seems to refer to a generic identity of "Huns". Hun + dal. This family name can also mean that people who are not writing their family names associated with "Generic family name, Hun" also come from "Hunnic" tribes. So in other words the "dal of huns" will also include people who do not have any sound of "Hun" in their family names. Or in other words they all are "Huns" irrespective of having the word "Hun" in their family names.


    Hun is a "generic word" and can not be connected to one community, whereas "Hundal" seems to refer/indicate to "dal of Huns" or "group of Huns" which in this case can also mean "Jats", it is a similar case as that of "chauhan" "chau (four) + han", "duhan "du(two) + han", "trihan tri(three) +han" and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dndeswal View Post
    Kudos to your general knowledge ! By the same logic, do Jat gotras Hunga (हुंगा), Hunjan (हुंजन) and Hunsawat (हुंसावत) also originate from Huns, since these words begin with English spelling 'Hun'? Or does every word starting with 'hun' has some connection with barbaric Huns?

    Hundal (हुंडळ) gotra is believed to be one of gotras belonging to Suryavanshi group? You mean Suryavansh also started at the time of Hun invasion? And did English language (Roman script) exist in India when Huns came here?

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    All the other " Jat family names" that u speak of "Hunga (हुंगा), Hunjan (हुंजन) and Hunsawat (हुंसावत) " have the word "Hun" in them, so it is probable that they derive their origin from "Huns", again i must say, that all the family names having "Hun" in their family names, does not mean are the only decedents of "Huns". Huns were a very big tribe and a very "generic word" which referred to many different tribes combined together, therefore, it is very probable that lot of family names who do not have "Hun" as their family name are also from the "Hunnish" origin.
    On the other hand "Hundal" seems to be again of bigger notation referring to certain tribe of people having some ancient origins. "Hundal" seems to referrer to a superset or various subsets.

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    The sane comments on the issue must serve as eye openers to all of us who are trying to find short cuts to understand the complicated issue of the origin of the castes and gotras!
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