VirJ (February 5th, 2012)
Sirs,
So both of you are saying that this was sung at that occasion but not to praise the king but for something something else. What I understand is, like charan/bhats used to sing in praise of kings, same was done on this occasion.
Are you saying that this song was actually praising our mother earth and not the king when it was sung on that ocassion?
जाट महान
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बेगानों में वफ़ा की तलाश ना कर ‘साहिल’,
तेरे तो अपने भी अक्सर बेवफा निकलते हैं l
rajpaldular (August 15th, 2012)
neetu21 (February 5th, 2012)
rajpaldular (August 15th, 2012)
VirJ (February 5th, 2012)
Friend,
The question here is not who created the video. This is sufficient for us to know what you think on this issue.
Nonetheless, we agree to disagree with each other and I repeat there is no harm singing and respecting our National Anthem in its present form i.e. the First Stanza adopted by the founding fathers of our constitution.
Regards
जागरूक ती अज्ञानी नहीं बनाया जा सके, स्वाभिमानी का अपमान नहीं करा जा सके , निडर ती दबाया नहीं जा सके भाई नुए सामाजिक क्रांति एक बार आ जे तो उसती बदला नहीं जा सके ---ज्याणी जाट।
दोस्त हो या दुश्मन, जाट दोनुआ ने १०० साल ताईं याद राखा करे ।
So, you are saying that this song was not sung at that occasion? I have no problems both ways.
Was this song sung at the welcome gathering when King George V came to India?
If not then when was the first time, this song was sung? What I have learnt before and after this video and some other literature, also referring to Dr. RajPal Ji's post, I came to this conclusion that this song was first sung when King George V came to India.
My apologies if I have misquoted you or misinterpreted you some way in my posts. I have gone through your older posts as well and this what I derived, I may be wrong but please if you answer the above question, I will be enlightened.
PS: While participating in discussions, I put my editor's hat away so you can just call me by my name.
जाट महान
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बेगानों में वफ़ा की तलाश ना कर ‘साहिल’,
तेरे तो अपने भी अक्सर बेवफा निकलते हैं l
rajpaldular (August 15th, 2012)
Bhai shaheb, the song was definately sung at that time no doubt about that. However the debate was on whether it was sung in the praise of the king or not. people have different views about this and different claims. The very fact that an English newspaper claimed that it was sung for King strenghten the contraversy however it was later refuted by Tagore himself.
Thats why I told you it is cotraversial but you said no contraversy about it, I guess that is why Dr shaheb has pointed you toward some real facts so that you can make your own understanding.
Congress clarified later that there were two songs that were sung that time one for King and this other as a beautiful composiotion by Tagore in praise for Mother land. Now peots are hard to understand for a person like me. You cant take them literally lot of things are symbolic so just by reading the peom we cannot come to conclusion.
The only thing I told you that it is contraversial, rest is your interpretion same way people have different interpretaion for this peotry.
Last edited by VirJ; February 5th, 2012 at 04:13 PM.
जागरूक ती अज्ञानी नहीं बनाया जा सके, स्वाभिमानी का अपमान नहीं करा जा सके , निडर ती दबाया नहीं जा सके भाई नुए सामाजिक क्रांति एक बार आ जे तो उसती बदला नहीं जा सके ---ज्याणी जाट।
दोस्त हो या दुश्मन, जाट दोनुआ ने १०० साल ताईं याद राखा करे ।
neetu21 (February 5th, 2012)
Jakharji, all your questions are answered in this thread that the new thread was merged with. The video and the post behind the original thread all go back to same person- rajiv dixit. If your objective is knowledge and truth behind these controversies, you can go through the thread. I don't see a point in repetition.