View Poll Results: gujjars feel jealousy from jaats

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Thread: Jat vs gujjar conflict in n.c.r.

  1. #221
    This thread must be deleted for the sake of harmony among communities. Jatland should not be used as a portal to create differences with other communities.
    Har Har Modi, Ghar Ghar Modi.

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    AbhikRana (July 9th, 2016)

  3. #222
    [QUOTE=urmiladuhan;268258]
    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    Now come to jealousy thing

    _________________________________

    Jealousy is a negative energy - it causes hurt to the person harbouring it.

    Regards,

    Urmila.
    But, I prefer to keep distance from Gujjar guys. Reason behind is I directed one Gujjar guy to speak truth. And after that, it became a personal offence to him for which I got assaulted only once but was very disgusting way.

    Now, I never faced any such strife, but still stand strong to make Gujjar/s behave.

    Regards!

  4. #223
    now Faridabad Lok Sabha constituency and south delhi Lok Sabha constituency has been lost from Jats where we always won in fact Jats had more villages than guitars in these constituencies .

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    Prikshit (January 23rd, 2020)

  6. #224
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Bro whole of the harit pradesh chahe vo meerut ho ya aur koi bhi district except two Saharanpur & G B nagar (noida) all are jat dominated .I live near Choudhary Charan singh University in meerut .(jaato kai ladke kisi ki bhi aisi taisi kar dete hai 2 min mai ).

    These gujjars are only dominating in noida ,not anywhere else ,it's true that they also have good poppulation in some districts of western up like noida ,saharanpur(dominating ) .They r also present in siezable amount in Meerut ,Bijnor and 1or 2 districts more ,not more than that .
    It is not like that all gujjars are bad ,i also have lots of gujjars friend ,but i have seen the haterness in their mind because they are much backward than us & due to some other political reasons .

    What they r doing western UP right now ,they will try to join BSP aur Bhen ji kai paltu dog ki tarah dum hilayege especially gujjars of noida .
    But jats never do that ,even our CM nayawati know that it is not possible to win in western up without jaats support .

    But gujjars have got a lots of advantage in UP due to noida development ,they have got crores of rupees for their land & they think themselves to be Don of noida .

    I can give u the list of jat's poppulation in western up districts :-
    Muzzafarnagar-19%
    Meerut -17%
    Ghaziabad-14%
    Baghpat-22%
    Saharanpur-7%
    G B nagar -5%(gujjar dominated ,gujjars have 19% poppulation here )
    Bulandsahar -17%
    Aligarh -11%
    Hathras-13%
    Mathura-22%
    Agra-18%
    Bijnor-14%
    Muradabd-16%
    Firozabad-6%
    Rampur-11%

    Except this jat's have siezable pooppulation in Bareilly ,Pilibhit ,Jyoti bhaphule nagar .
    8 percent in gautambudh nagar

  7. #225
    Hindus are going though genocide in pakistan bangladesh and conversion in south india, those percentages will reduce further if we keep doing jatt tamil bangali

  8. #226
    Hello everyone. I want to share my personal experiences with you guys. I know Gujjars very well and it is very true they harbour animosity towards Jats. Most Jats have this feeling that Jat-Gujjar are brothers. I must tell you that this brotherhood is claimed most often by Jats rather than from Gujjars. There are many instances in real life where I was literally amazed by hatred which they carry in their hearts for us. You can personally check out many videos on youtube in which they are abusing Jats.

  9. #227
    This platform is for Jat issues and for increasing unity among Jats. If you have relevant thing to talk about this topic, only then message.

  10. #228
    Where did you get this figure of 8% in Gautam Buddh Nagar. 8% is too much bro. Do not inflate figures.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dushyantaliyans View Post
    8 percent in gautambudh nagar

  11. #229
    Quote Originally Posted by Solankivich View Post
    now Faridabad Lok Sabha constituency and south delhi Lok Sabha constituency has been lost from Jats where we always won in fact Jats had more villages than guitars in these constituencies .
    South Delhi has more Gujjar Villages than Jat Villages. I guess Faridabad district has more Gujjar Villages than Jat Villages. Do you have any idea about Palwal District?

  12. #230
    If you want to ignore truth, then its your call. I lived in South Delhi and have personally encountered many instances of Jat-Gujjar rivalry.
    Quote Originally Posted by amitbudhwar View Post
    This thread must be deleted for the sake of harmony among communities. Jatland should not be used as a portal to create differences with other communities.

  13. #231
    It's not about Jat Vs Gujjar only. Jats have "Don't give a F..." attitude towards other communities then it hardly matters who like or dislike us. "The Jat brand" is miles ahead of these Gujjars or any other community in Delhi NCR. It's not about wealth and possessions we have but a unique Tribal identity we are maintaining despite all the odds. It may sound a bit self-obsessed or narcissistic approach and this is how other look at us. So chill Bro.. Enjoy this Jathood.

  14. #232
    Chaudhary Devi Lal used to say Jats, Gujjars, Ahirs & Rajputs are brothers as a matter of fact there is nothing wrong thinking so. There has been already great in fighting among Jats. We must avoid intercommunity conflicts. I believe that we must strengthen ourselves.

  15. #233
    Jats vs This that! Yahaan Jat Jat ka nahin, bhai bhai ka nahin, behen bhai ek dusrae kae nahin, beta beti maa baap kae nahin! Aur baat kare ja rahi hae Jat vs Gujjar! Even on jatland certain members who have abused other jats are being praised as karta dharta Sadhus of Jat community! In reality, these Sadhus ain’t Sadhus!

  16. #234

    Local Conflicts- Nothing to worry

    Jat V/s all is a universal truth - but maintaining honesty, frankness, hardworking, identity, togetherness, positive attitude, competitiveness spirit, attachment with land, etc are the USP of this community so nothing to worry about localised conflicts.

  17. #235
    I appeal to all my JATs brothers & sisters.
    Please see the big picture, country is going through a drastic change, remember in Afghanistan(Talibani) & Pakistan most converted peoples to Islam are JATs & Gujjar.
    They were not converted by choice, fact is that they converted by fear & greed.
    Same situation is coming ahead, "SAARI JAAT GARDI PICHWADE SE NIKAL JAWAGI".
    In 2013 somehow we protected our pride but how long you can do that.
    Our population in rural area has decreased drastically, no one is there to event cultivate.
    Muslim population is increasing more that 30%.
    If you think you are real JAT then please protect our property and children.

    True JATs please come together and plan something how to fight with this situation.
    जिंदा रहेंगे तो गर्व के साथ तो आप दावा कर सकते हैं कि आप जाट और हम आप गली के कायर भी नहीं हैं।

    Tikait is damaging our pride to anything, and many fools are supporting him.

  18. #236
    भाई जी topic के ऊपर बात करनी चाहिए । तभी अलग अलग forum बनाए जाते हैं ।

  19. #237
    Ram Ram Bhai ,
    I have seen many times gujjars want full control Hand in Delhi NCR . Wo dhire dhire hmare sansadhano par kabza karte ja rahe hain aap last 4-5 year ka DU elecation dekho ye hawi hote ja rahe hain

  20. #238
    Quote Originally Posted by gstomar View Post
    I appeal to all my JATs brothers & sisters.
    Please see the big picture, country is going through a drastic change, remember in Afghanistan(Talibani) & Pakistan most converted peoples to Islam are JATs & Gujjar.
    They were not converted by choice, fact is that they converted by fear & greed.
    Same situation is coming ahead, "SAARI JAAT GARDI PICHWADE SE NIKAL JAWAGI".
    In 2013 somehow we protected our pride but how long you can do that.
    Our population in rural area has decreased drastically, no one is there to event cultivate.
    Muslim population is increasing more that 30%.
    If you think you are real JAT then please protect our property and children.

    True JATs please come together and plan something how to fight with this situation.
    जिंदा रहेंगे तो गर्व के साथ तो आप दावा कर सकते हैं कि आप जाट और हम आप गली के कायर भी नहीं हैं।

    Tikait is damaging our pride to anything, and many fools are supporting him.

    Ram Ram,


    Exactly, divided we fall, and united we fight. The Brits sowed the seeds of division (not that these didn't exist), but not to such a level. If Jats, Gujjars, Rajputs, and Ahirs can't be united, we'll perish. See, all Jats, Gujjars, and Rajputs in Pakistan Punjab had either converted to Muslims or Sikhs, but not Punjabs (Khatris) - Sikhs to protect self and our Hindu religions. I haven't met a single Jat or Gujjar who came to India post-partition - none, and none of those who stayed back are Hindu. Khatris, almost all are refugees, and were still Hindus in Pakistan but were demeaned by Gandhi and Congress, therefore post migration were looked down. (I personally believe it's our (warrior tribes) collective duty to protect our people, and for that we have to be united in family, then in the community, then in religion, and country).


    Whatever history of Guru Hargobind ji and Guru Gobind ji (and all other Sikhs), I know, is that our values, principles are all the same. Earlier marriages in Sikhs were common, even in my own family I have Sikh relatives, but recently, I have seen my Instagram reels which say don't marry in Hindus and Hindus are idol worshippers - a propaganda of Khalistani & Pakistani to break and divide us further.


    I read many positive comments in this thread, but many are negative and conclude to stay in isolation, that's exactly what we need to avoid. If someone speaks ill, then find out the root causes and work on that. Remember, if someone says nine times I love you but once I hate you, we don't remember those nine times but that one time where I hate you was said. Jats, Gujjars, and Rajputs have the same surnames, same history, and the presence of this thread itself is a testament that we are the same but a fault line is there. Then remove those fault lines for self-interest because we already Muslims uprises in Haryana and Hindus aren't united and we'll fall if we can't unite. In Haryana in the last 4-5 years, I have seen mazars coming up, riots in south Haryana have become common.


    I have even heard divisions within Jats, Yeh Deswali jaat hai woh Bagri jaat hai. I can't comprehend my head around these. I understand how the lands were confiscated and how males were killed off Gujjars after 1857, I don't know if Jats sided with Brits and why someone would feel left behind. Empathy goes a long way.


    Hindus always were divided and were made to vote on caste lines, and we kept losing the ground, if BJP has done something good is given a collective framework and corrected two historic wrongs which seemed impossible to rectify, at least to me: Ram Mandir and Kashmir.


    Let's be united first in family, then in the community, then in religion, and in the country.


    Ram Ram, Jai Hind.

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