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Thread: Jat vs gujjar conflict in n.c.r.

  1. #21
    Bro whole of the harit pradesh chahe vo meerut ho ya aur koi bhi district except two Saharanpur & G B nagar (noida) all are jat dominated .I live near Choudhary Charan singh University in meerut .(jaato kai ladke kisi ki bhi aisi taisi kar dete hai 2 min mai ).

    These gujjars are only dominating in noida ,not anywhere else ,it's true that they also have good poppulation in some districts of western up like noida ,saharanpur(dominating ) .They r also present in siezable amount in Meerut ,Bijnor and 1or 2 districts more ,not more than that .
    It is not like that all gujjars are bad ,i also have lots of gujjars friend ,but i have seen the haterness in their mind because they are much backward than us & due to some other political reasons .

    What they r doing western UP right now ,they will try to join BSP aur Bhen ji kai paltu dog ki tarah dum hilayege especially gujjars of noida .
    But jats never do that ,even our CM nayawati know that it is not possible to win in western up without jaats support .

    But gujjars have got a lots of advantage in UP due to noida development ,they have got crores of rupees for their land & they think themselves to be Don of noida .

    I can give u the list of jat's poppulation in western up districts :-
    Muzzafarnagar-19%
    Meerut -17%
    Ghaziabad-14%
    Baghpat-22%
    Saharanpur-7%
    G B nagar -5%(gujjar dominated ,gujjars have 19% poppulation here )
    Bulandsahar -17%
    Aligarh -11%
    Hathras-13%
    Mathura-22%
    Agra-18%
    Bijnor-14%
    Muradabd-16%
    Firozabad-6%
    Rampur-11%

    Except this jat's have siezable pooppulation in Bareilly ,Pilibhit ,Jyoti bhaphule nagar .
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 7th, 2011 at 03:46 PM.

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  3. #22
    thanxx a lot for sharing the list.just wana share 1 thing bhai that even in gb nagar they dont dominate..rajputs hav more population thn dese gujjars......soo jats dominate d whole state of punjab,haryana rajasthan delhi and western up.aap to western up se hoo to yee batao ki agarr harit pradesh banaaa to would tht b beneficial for jats or not?

  4. #23
    Bro for GB nagar as district poppulation is concerned ,gujjars have more poppulation than rajputs but on the GB nagar MP seat rajputs have more voting than gujjars ,it's true becuase ,There is a huge area of bulandsahar (Khurja region )covered in GB nagar seat and some portion of Ghaziabad (Dhoulana belt )as well due to which rajputs voting becomers more on MP seat .

    Moreever rajputs don't have that much power & political influence in noida-gr noida than they can fight against guijjars ,as gujjars are very rich in This region .

    If Harit pradesh will be made ,i am sure Ajit singh will be the CM ,yes it will benefit jaats a lot but Muslim also had a good poppulation in Harit pradesh ,so they will also be benefited & we have to take them with us along as well .

    you can view this link for voting list on GB nagar seat .

    Political equations of GB nagar-http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:poC6h4aZqqwJ:http://www.attachowk.com/loksabhaele...w.google.co.in

  5. #24
    arey gujjar ho ya rajput ya yadav kisi me itna dum nahi li jaat se takar le le...gujjar bas greater noida aur south delhi mein apni dadagiri dikha sakte hai.....noida/ghaziabad mein yadavo ki chalti hai na ki gujjaro ki.... aur delhi mein jaat ke samne kahi stand nahi karte
    gujjaro ka kam bhans churane ka tha.....chor the sab,noida ke bane se jameen ke muavje se uchhal kud rahe hai...
    arey jab tum 10 crore ki abadi hai,tu tumhare 6-7 mp se jada kyun nahi hai........????
    tumhara kabhi koi chiefminister bana hai ,,sale apni bua(MAYAWATI(CHAMARI)))) ki sharan mein rehkar hamara mukabla kana chahte hai????
    mayawati is anti jat/yadav,hum kabhi usko support nahi karte......
    and gujjars r supportrs of mayawati....ab ki bar sayad congress-rld ki sarkar aye gi,ya sapa-rld ki.....

  6. #25

    damn........!!

    arey itni shankiya hoti to kya ajit singh ke pass 12 hi seat hoti????
    these % r wrong......
    greater noida mein gujjars r 60% ,jats only hv 4-5 villages wo bhi sikandrabad side mein....

    magar jada hone se kya hota hai???

  7. #26
    Remember,,,we also have Muslim Jats,,,,,"Jats are Jats",,,religion holds no boundaries for them. Jat is a " Community" not a " Caste" ,,," Caste" is defined by religion. " Community" by common blood. The word " Community" originates from " Commune",,,people with common genetic origins.
    We must bring back the Muslim Jats, to make them realize our common origins rather then to be separated due to religious boundaries.

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  9. #27
    ram ram bhahiyoo
    south delhi mai jat gujjaro se zeyadaa hai...south delhi mai jaato ke 18gaoo hai n gujjaroo ke 12.

  10. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by cutejaatsandeep View Post
    ram ram bhahiyoo
    south delhi mai jat gujjaro se zeyadaa hai...south delhi mai jaato ke 18gaoo hai n gujjaroo ke 12.
    zyada kam ki to pata nahi,magar unme jaato se takkar lena ki himat nahi....
    bas hum noida mein unse nahi takra sakte kyunki its a non-jat place.....

  11. #29
    Jaat kahin bhi kissi se bhi takra sakte hai...thats y we are called JATS (Just Avoid Them)... so always be united and proud of being JAT... noida kisse to char district ne t hum nuye e dhool chatta denge ....

  12. #30

    Exclamation

    Bro south delhi mai jaat bhi bhot hai & u should know MP of south delhi is jaat ,Mr ramesh kumar ,younger brother of sajjan kumar .(6 % -jaat ,7% -gujjar in south delhi but still the MP is jaat ) .

    West delhi -9 % jaats ,North-west delhi -it's real garh of jaats in delhi -14 % .Jaats have more than 200 villages in delhi while gujjars have only 80 . so where is the comparison ..........??????????

    We have 11 jaat MLA's in delhi assembly out of 70 while gujjars have 8 only ..............

    Yeh to tumne sahi kaha ki gujjar sirf noida-gr noida kai sher hai,bhai jaha tak yadavo ki baat hai jab sai D.P yadav ka downfall hua hai tab sai yadavs weak ho gaye hai noida-ghaziabad mai .

    Aaj kai time mai Ghaziabad mai jaat's & tyagi top par hai .It's true .Jaat's poppulation is approx 4 lakh in Ghaziabad .Modi nagar MLA is JAAT & there are lot more good jat leaders from Ghaziabad like Ravinder teotia ,ajay choudhary (congress secretary etc .Ex MLA from Garh is Ch Ramesh rawat ,younger brother of Sughan rawat ,he belongs to Sikandarpur dagar near to sahibabad .

    There are lot more names that i know ,this time you will also see a good fight on Muradnagar seat between RLD & BSP if a jaat got ticket from RLD .

    But noida-gr noida is gujjar land ,yadav can't fight against gujjars .it's true now for noida-gr noida .believe me .........

    But one thing that really was unfortunate was the defeat of JAAT from FARIDABAD seat .............
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 20th, 2011 at 03:48 PM.

  13. #31
    Amit bhai sahyad aap ko aisa lagtha hai ki jaat sirf RLD mai he hai .......
    Believe me i belong to Western UP , these figures are correct .I have noted down these figures from the newspapaer during the election time .

    But Yeh hum jaato ki badkismati hai Humare western UP kai Ch. Ajit singh ko politics karni nahi aati ,Believe me aaj kai time RLD sai yada jaat MLA BJP & BSP mai hai ..........It's true .

    Ajit singh dont have that courage & political features like his father(Our respectable Ch charan singh ) ,bus yeh RLD to CH chran singh kai naam par chal rahi hai ,kya kar rahe RLD ko vote deni padthi hai ,ijjat ki baat aa jati hai jaato ki ..jaisa bhi hai hai to apna he ,yeh kehte hai humare bade -budde...........
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 20th, 2011 at 04:06 PM.

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  15. #32
    bhai delhi mai jaat around 15% hai n gujjar around 7%.they hav 58 villages in delhi n jaato ke around 160 villages hai.....waise mere hisaab see aajkal western up mai agar koi jaato ke liye acha leader ho sakta hai to wo hai yashpal malik president of jat arakshan samiti.atleast usmai kuch karne ki himmat to hai.yee saale ajit singh ke to juuteee maaroo..jab yashpal malik ne delhi ki water supply baand kar di thi gang nahar se tab kaha gaya thaa yee ajit singh.saalaa bolaa yee sahi tarikaa nahi hai.....hamari sarkarr andhi n behrii see.....jab tak laath nahi bajaogeeee tab tak inkee samajh mai konii aaaweeeeee.bhai mere hisaab mai usse acha jat leader isss waqt western up mai koi nahi....

  16. #33
    waisee ashish bhai eek baat nu bataoo kee western up mai gujjar n rajputoo ki kitni population hai?

  17. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Bro south delhi mai jaat bhi bhot hai & u should know MP of south delhi is jaat ,Mr ramesh kumar ,younger brother of sajjan kumar .(6 % -jaat ,7% -gujjar in south delhi but still the MP is jaat ) .

    West delhi -9 % jaats ,North-west delhi -it's real garh of jaats in delhi -14 % .Jaats have more than 200 villages in delhi while gujjars have only 80 . so where is the comparison ..........??????????

    We have 11 jaat MLA's in delhi assembly out of 70 while gujjars have 8 only ..............

    Yeh to tumne sahi kaha ki gujjar sirf noida-gr noida kai sher hai,bhai jaha tak yadavo ki baat hai jab sai D.P yadav ka downfall hua hai tab sai yadavs weak ho gaye hai noida-ghaziabad mai .

    Aaj kai time mai Ghaziabad mai jaat's & tyagi top par hai .It's true .Jaat's poppulation is approx 4 lakh in Ghaziabad .Modi nagar MLA is JAAT & there are lot more good jat leaders from Ghaziabad like Ravinder teotia ,ajay choudhary (congress secretary etc .Ex MLA from Garh is Ch Ramesh rawat ,younger brother of Sughan rawat ,he belongs to Sikandarpur dagar near to sahibabad .

    There are lot more names that i know ,this time you will also see a good fight on Muradnagar seat between RLD & BSP if a jaat got ticket from RLD .

    But noida-gr noida is gujjar land ,yadav can't fight against gujjars .it's true now for noida-gr noida .believe me .........

    But one thing that really was unfortunate was the defeat of JAAT from FARIDABAD seat .............
    ashish bhai mein bulandshahr ke ek gaon se hoon nd currently living in noida,i did my graduation from ims noida nd i had many gujjar and yadav as frnds....joo maine yaha notice kiya ki yaha par gujjaro aur yadavo ki chalti hai...pichle saal gujjaro aur tyagi ke kuch ladko ki bemata(koi gaon hai yadavo ka ghaziabad mein) ke ek yadav ladke se ladai hogayi thi,pehle gujjaro aur tyagi ne us yadav ke ladko milkar pit diya tha,magar college ke baad yadavo ki 20-25 safari,pajero colg ke bhar khadi thi aur unhone un gujjaro mein aur tyagi mein bahut bajaya tha...tab mujhe pata chala ki ghaziabad mein bemhata ke yadavo ki aur noida mein sarfabad ke yadavo ki chalti hai......
    waise mein neutral tha kyun ki meri dosti dono taraf se thi....
    uske baad colg mein yadavo ke bare mein bahut sune ko milta tha........

    par mane ke lena yadav ho ya gujjar ya ho tyagi ,hum se jo takrayga chur chur hojaye ga....

  18. #35
    bro tum IMS noida mai padhe ho na ,IMS Ghaziabad mai padho to jaato ka jalwe dekhne ko milege ,don't worry . Actually yadavo kai 7-8 village hai noida mai .D P yadav is from sarafabad village . This village is near to shoprix mall ,noida (sector-55 ) .
    Mahendra bhati ( don of gr noida ) ko bhi D P yadav nai he marwaya tha ( 10 years past ) .Us time D P yadav kai naam acha tha noida-ghaziabad mai .
    But now the scenario has hanged .There are so many reasons it ,one reason is downfall of Mulayam singh & emeregence of BSP .
    BSP always support gujjars ...........no doubt .......

    But in Ghaziabad ,jaats have raised their power a lot .once ever go towards Rajnagar ,kavi nagar side u will come to know .Whole of this Raj nagar belt & adjacent areas & sahibabad belt till loni border ,there are so many jaats villages & good jats businessman .

    Abhi dekhthe raho aane vale election mai bhi patha chal gaya is sali Mayawati ko ..........

    The main reason of victory of BJP in the last MP election in Ghaziabad & meerut as well was only due to jaats support .........

    This even Rajnath singh accept in his interview after winning in the Election .

  19. #36
    Bro Rajupts don't have much to do in western UP politics .
    They are present in good figures in some districts like saharanpur ,Ghaziabad( Dhaulana belt-Pilkahuwa belt ) ,Aligarh ,Bulandsahar ( Khurja region ) ,G B nagar (noida-gr noida ) ,some villages in meerut & muzzafarnagar as well .

    Rajupts & yadavs dominate the politics of eastern UP .

    Aur baki gujjaro ki to kahani he kharab hai ,yeh sale to bin pendi kai lote hai .

    Gujjars have villages in Saharanpur ,Meerut ,Ghaziabad ( Loni region -Madan kasana is their leader ) ,G B nagar (noida-gr noida ) .

    Vaise Yeh sirf dkha jaye to noida-gr noida kai he sher hai bus ,aur koi aisi jagah nahi hai western UP mai jaha yeh jaato ka mukabla khar sake .It's true
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 21st, 2011 at 07:05 PM.

  20. #37
    Vaise koi jaat bhai kya mujhe gurgaon kai jaat villages kai bare mai batayga ??????Sandeep bro do u have any idea ?

    I have listen that Gurgaon mai Yadavs kafi jyada hai & i think MP from there is also yadav .......

    I have read yesterday in a news paper that this time in Ward election ( total-35 seats )jaats have won 12 & yadav's 15 seats .

    This time it is going to be a tough fight for the Mayor seat in gurgaon .....Let's see what happens ......
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 21st, 2011 at 07:09 PM.

  21. #38

    Jats - Pet subjects for Hatred

    I Concur with Ashish.

    Jats are the pet subjects of and for hatred across North India. They are hated by one and all - Brahmins, Rajputs, Punjabis, Baniyas, etc. etc. They have the guts to say that on the face of jats including Delhi and NCR.The very mention of the word 'Jat' evokes disgust and despair. According to them Jats are to be kept out at all costs from offices, clubs, colonies, etc. They are being blatantly discriminated against. AND the worst part is that whoever including Gurjars, Yadavs, brahmins from Haryana/Western UP speaks the local language (Haryanvi) is LABELLED as bloody Jat. This is not an exaggeration but a fact. So all the wrong and unpolished acts of these other communities speaking Haryanvi become the STUPID acts of stupid Jats.

    I may be corrected, I have heard from quite a few friends/acquantances from Western UP that Jat leaders (including student leaders) are eliminated by others (including thakurs) out of jealousy.

    Moreover, our present Jat leaders including Hooda ji have done NOTHING encouraging to safeguard the interest of Jats and these simple Jats vote for and rejoice when people like Hooda ji win and become CM. Really sad!

    Will Jats always be taken for granted by one and all (including their own people)???
    Last edited by AbhikRana; June 21st, 2011 at 10:56 PM.

  22. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Bro Rajupts don't have much to do in western UP politics .
    They are present in good figures in some districts like saharanpur ,Ghaziabad( Dhaulana belt-Pilkahuwa belt ) ,Aligarh ,Bulandsahar ( Khurja region ) ,G B nagar (noida-gr noida ) ,some villages in meerut & muzzafarnagar as well .

    Rajupts & yadavs dominate the politics of eastern UP .

    Aur baki gujjaro ki to kahani he kharab hai ,yeh sale to bin pendi kai lote hai .

    Gujjars have villages in Saharanpur ,Meerut ,Ghaziabad ( Loni region -Madan kasana is their leader ) ,G B nagar (noida-gr noida ) .

    Vaise Yeh sirf dkha jaye to noida-gr noida kai he sher hai bus ,aur koi aisi jagah nahi hai western UP mai jaha yeh jaato ka mukabla khar sake .It's true
    frankly speakin i dont hv grudges with gujjars,yadavs infact i do hv many frnds from both of cast as i live in their area,which dont hv jat presence...but some how i feel tht evey other caste is jealous of us.....i know tht a jat cnt become C.M of U.p but still we can play a vital role in western up politics...my family supports mulayam singh coz he is obc leader nd he understands nd respects farmers ,moreover he respects and follows ch.charan singh...i hate ajit singh nd he not at all represnt his father.....

    nd for gurgaon seat fight looks tight.....yadavs hv a good chance but i hope a jat becomes mayor at the land of yadavs...i saw in d wiki of gurgaon tht its a yadav dominated place nd they form 45% of total population of gurgaon ,while jats hv only 6-7 villages in gurgaon....its good to hv jat candidates as the winner in d mcg......nd i hope the mayor is some jat.....

    nd ashish bro i think bematha gaon is near ims ghaziabad only....this village people r very aggresive and ferocious....i heard they single handedly rule tht part of place......
    but whtever fact is jats r jats....!!!!

  23. #40
    Bro jaats have 17 % poppulation in gurgaon (approx -100 villages ),i checked yesterday.yes it's true that gurgaon is ahir dominated(38% yadavs approx -190 villages approx ) .If we have 4-5 villages then we can't have 12 jaat ward members out of 35 seats .
    The main jat gotra in gurgaon are sehrawat,kataria ,dabas,hooda ,thakran ,anjana(it's also a jat gotra ),aur bhi hai 2-3 jinke mujhe naam yaad nahi hai is time .Kataria jaats are very rich in gurgaon . There is one Sukhrali village (kataria village )-It is supposed to be the richest village of gurgaon .

    Mayor seat par yadav jita hai (Vimal yadav ),i checked in today's newspaper (our bad luck bro ),deputy-mayor post is given to a jaat as a compromise .

    Vaise tumhe patha hoga ki Ch Charan singh UP kai CM rahe hai .Jab yeh Mayawati ( Chamari ) CM baan sakti hai to jaat kyo nahi .Dalits are the most supressed in the indian society .

    Really yeh ak fact hai ki Mayaweati is a good politician .AAj sai 10 saal pehle BSP ka kuch khas hold nahi tha UP mai ,aur aaj she has the govt aur vo bhi complete bahumat mai .

    Yes bro u r right that ,agar jaat ko CM banana hai to Western UP ko alag karna padhega only then it is possible.Lekin tumhe patha hai sabse jyada Harit Pradesh ka oppostion Mulayam singh karta hai because these people of eastern UP knows ki aghar western UP laga ho gaya to vaha kai log bhuke mar jayge becausee prosperous belt in UP is western UP only .It's 100 % true .

    Aur rahi baat Bametha ki to Bametha gaon is 4-5 kms away from IMS ghaziabad .usse pehle bhot gaon hai jaato kai Mehrauli (teotia village ),sadararpur ,rajpura ,kajipura ,Chipiana bujurag and some more as well.

    Out of these Mehrauli is the most richest village in that area .
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; June 22nd, 2011 at 03:28 PM.

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