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Thread: Jat vs gujjar conflict in n.c.r.

  1. #81
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Atismohan bhai let them cry as much they can.Any ahir can not be the CM of Haryana as they are more than 6-7% poppulation in Haryana.Everybody has the right to raise their demands in democracy,so thier is nothing wrong in that.

    @gagan bhai ,there is desperity in every caste ,yes i accept that.But infact every caste feels jealousy against jaats becuase of their different life style & attitude.
    Haryana has already witnessed at least 4 non-Jat Chief Minsters so far - Bhagwat Dayal Sharma, Rao Birender Singh, Banarsi Dass Gupta and Bhajan lal - thanks to the deep rooted infighting, intra-caste rivalry, jealousy among Jats and above all the follies of some pig-headed self-proclaimed messiah of Jats who have scant regard for human dignity, civil liberties and respect for the community fellows. Their sole aim is to remain in the limelight at any cost. The situation is likely to deteriorate further if such lumpen elements are allowed to remain in the lead role. Therefore, time has come to show them their right place before blaming other castes.

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  3. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Humanity is the first thing in this world.
    यो बात तो ठीक है भाई, पर आप मेरे को पश्चिमी यू.पी. के जाटों पर कोई दाग गिनवा दोगे क्या? छिटपुट की घटनाएं नि...कोई ऐसा दाग जो राष्ट्रीय स्तर का हो...मेरे ख्याल तै तो यो दुनिया का एकमात्र ऐसा इलाका है, जिसमें कोई कमी नहीं...

  4. #83
    suuu to mai bhi haryanee kaa hi khardd gaoo 2kms from mayyar..maayyar kaa to rakaa ji apnee beraa hi hogaaa......baat rahi up ke jaato ki to wahaa ki sarkarr ki kamaaan eek non jat ke pass hai....thats y jaato ne track khalii kar diyeee.agar iss waqt haryane ka cm koi chamar yaa non jat hotaa pher picture kuch aur hi hoti.jaat jaat see chahee kahi kaa bhi ho.doosri baat aisaa koi samjhotaa nahi hua ki up walaa up mai hi karegaa n haryanee ka haryanaa mai hi karegaa...haryana mai rallly yashpal malik n hawa singh sangwan karwaa rahee hai on august 18......apnaa n apnee bhahiyo ka to puraa support see chahe pherr track roko...road roko yaa pherr govt.. buses mai aaag lagaoo.

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  6. #84
    satyajeet thukrelaa saab apnee yoo kisssa sunaa kee dil khush kar diyaaa.....yoo bataoo ki mp mai kitne percent jaat population hai.n gujjjar n thakur jaato se zeyadaa powerful hai yaa nahi?mp mai kahaa jaati ki achi population see?

  7. #85
    sandeep ji, madhya pradesh mai jat population na k barabar hai
    or yaha jato ko arakshan bhi prapt hai.

    malwa region or narmada river k banks par jat achi matra mai basta hai
    or waha jato ka stronghold hai, khategao se chunav lad chaudhary balram jakhar state ke home minister bhi reh chuke hai.

    ab bach gaya chambal region, yaha gujjaro ka bol bala chalta hai
    thakur bhi gujjar ki unity k mare chuppi lagai rehte hai

    ab bat kare jat ki, chambal chetra mai gohad k maharaja bheem singh rana ka raj reh chuka hai
    200 sal pehle yaha jat ka bol bala tha, par scindhiya ka raj ate hi
    baki sabhi jatiyo ne mil kar jat ka yaha se safaya kar diya

    yaha jato ki halat bohot achi nahi, jumma jumma jagah par hi stronghold hai, jaise gohad, dabra or dholpur.

    madya pradesh mai bohot kam log hi jat jati k bare mai jante hain

    isse judi kai bate maine raka ji k likhe huye forum 'jat ka dhram kya hona chahiye' mai likhi hai, wo post abhi moderator approval k liye pada hai

  8. #86
    Meri samaj mai ak baat nahi aati ki humari community ko kab akal aaygi.Yeh choti soch like mai UP ka hu ,mai haryana ka,mai delhi ka ,aisi gatia soch humari community kai liye bhot harmfull hai.

    Aur ha raka ji agar aap jaise logo kai according community chalne lag jaygi ,to kaal sai he har ak jat states kai bich mai LOC kich ni padh jaygi.I did not expect such kind of thinking & posts from such a old,educated & decent person like u .Please dont mind it sir but this type of attitude is not good for the community .

    Mera bus chale to apni JAAT community kai har ak gaon mai gumu aur sabse kahu that "WE ARE ONE ,WE ARE JAATS ONLY".After that we are haryanvi ,UP ,rajasthani,punjabi or any other state people.

    @Sandeep bhai thanks a lot for ur answer & respect.Atleast such kind of persons should know that community is first priority for us,not the state or ur city.aur mai 18 august ko jarur chaluga aapke saat vada raha bhai ka...........

    Upender bhai jagah koi bi buri nahi hoti ,jagah ko acha aur burah bante hai vaha kai log aur vaha ki society.I have seen so many people everywhere & on this site as well ,who critise the opposite person that unka area to aisa hai ,vaha kai jaat aise hai ,bekar hai ,ghatia hai............

    I have never listen any gujjar/yadav/rajput saying like this,then why we should create this wall in our own community??please tell me sir..............
    Its true that everbody has the affection for his village/city/state but it doesn't mean that other place jat's are bad.If they are lacking somewhere ,we should help them in overcoming their problems rather than laughing on them or making a fun of them.

    Thukrela bhai nice to see ur comments?From which village u belong in UP?jaats are 2-4 % in MP and gujjars are 7 % ,i have read in a newspaper somewhere.Rajputs are in majority in MP & i think CM is also a rajpoot but still there are some good jat politicians & mininster in MP govt.

    One thing i would i like to appreciate about the jaats of Rajasthan (not the jaats of UP or Haryana ,raka ji ) that after they got the OBC reservation in Rajasthan ,they have captured more than 50 % of the OBC quota jobs & doing well in other fields as well especially in politics as i have discusses earlier as well.We can have a JAT CM in next upcoming election there if our own community tries a littile more & remains united.
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; August 9th, 2011 at 07:24 PM.

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  10. #87
    ashish bhai

    i completely agree you on this, jab jat states ko le kar ladte hain toh mujhe bhi bilkul acha nahi lagta.
    i'm from rajpur village, dist bulandshar.

    sandeep bhai k puchne par hi maine mp ki tasveer rakhi, i think ki baki states k bare mai puchne mai koi buri bat nahi hai

    n i didnt say that gujjars dominate d whole of mp!, only the chambal regoin, that too because they are in large numbers there.
    nor did i say tht jats dominate mp, i only mentioned the places where we have a stronghold
    and yes, rajpoots dominate madhya pradesh, CM is Shivraj singh chauhan

  11. #88
    I would like to add on one more thing.

    Jaaton mein ekta nai rahi jaise pehle thi. Muzaffarnagar seat se RLD hi jit ti thi. Anuradha Chaudhry ko koi harane wala nai tha. Bt sb jaante hain ke last elections mein Ek aur jaat unke virodh mein khada ho gaya aur RLD ki vote kat gai. As a result waha se BSP ka Admi jeet gaya.

    Hame ek baat toh yaad rakhni hogi. JB DUSHMAN SE LADNA HO TAB APSI MATBHED BHULA DENE CHAHIYE.
    GHAR KI LADAI GHAR MEIN HI RAHE TOH ACHHA HAI VARNA BAHAR WALE FAYDA UTHA JATE HAIN.

  12. #89
    bohot theek kaha avinash bhai
    isse yad aya

    There Was No Nation In The World Equal To The JAATs Bravery, Provided They Had Unity… -Herodatous

  13. #90
    Very nicely said thukrela bhai ,nice to talk to u.

    I was just adding to the information provided by you ,you must be knowing better than me no doubt as u are living there in MP.I was disappointed due to the comment of our Raka ji who seems to be a very decent & educated person.

    Yes avinash bhai it was unfortunate ,the defeat of RLD ,Anuradha choudhary ,but there were so many personaal enemity involved in that election between RLD & congress Harendra Malik.

  14. #91
    Any aheer cannot be CM of Haryana because they are only 6-7 % is a completely wrong statement. Anyone can be CM of Haryana. Sonia Gandhi is running the country and we hardly dont even have .000000001 % italians in India.

    I wont do the research to put the facts here but you will find many examples like this. Anything is possible.

    Thinking who is jealous of us and listing everyone under it is a sign of inferiority complex.
    and I am pretty sure Jats are better than that.

    Every caste love their people and they are proud of it. And all we need to uplift this country is proud people who think high of themselves and others.

    We got to get rid of this negativity ki koi jat hai , chuda hai , chamar hai, gujjar hai ....sabki apni marood hai.

    Baki baat aisi hai baar agar ladne-marne ki ho to Jat top pe hi ate hai
    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    Atismohan bhai let them cry as much they can.Any ahir can not be the CM of Haryana as they are more than 6-7% poppulation in Haryana.Everybody has the right to raise their demands in democracy,so thier is nothing wrong in that.

    @gagan bhai ,there is desperity in every caste ,yes i accept that.But infact every caste feels jealousy against jaats becuase of their different life style & attitude.
    My way or my way ?

  15. #92

    because in delhi jaat boys feels that reservation in any form is a punishable offense

    Quote Originally Posted by ashishsehrawat9 View Post
    yes prashant bhai i agree to ur points upto an extent but not completely .I am also very much aware of the history of ballabgarh(faridabad) & Anagpal tomar (of baghpat) .You correctly said that there is rivolry between family memebers now a days ,so how can we expect other caste to be 100 % affectinable to us .totally true .

    But one thing i would like to highlight that gujjars have much more better unity than our caste .For example when they start doing agitation gujjar's of every state supported them ,there was total road -blockage at every place where they have good poppulation .

    But when jat's start doing agitation for reservation even our leaders have different strategies .even our leader Ajit singh did not support the movement who is the MP from baghpat and had done nothing for Baghpat .
    i haven't listen about any agitation /dharna in delhi .jaats of delhi had done nothing during the movement because we have lack of unity .it's a fact ....................
    If an agitation starts to curb all reservation then you can count on us.

  16. #93
    Mr. Gagan ,u have taken my statement in a wrong way.Firstly u talk about sonia Gandhi,According to u She is a Italian but she had the Gandhi after his name.Yeh Gandhi parivar ka naam hai jis vagah sai aaj vo Congress ki President hai.
    Apne kaha ki kisi bhi caste ka person Haryan a ka CM baan saktha hai ,hm baan sakta hai .My statement was based on figures.Jaats are more than 35% in Haryana,that's why we have most of the jaat CM in Haryana.
    This forum talks about conflicts not about jealousy,both are different things.I dont have any personal enemity with any caste or community.
    Every caste/community has its own history/heritage.WE are among the best warrior clan of India.We are best in every field.Isile hume apne upar fakha hai .
    Chmaro/chudo nai kitne kingdom establish kiye thai history mai,kitna Mughalo/Britishers sai fight ki thi??????
    Kitne Chamar/chude border par Desh kai liye goli khate hai ???????????tell me bro..........

    Chand dabas sir jara yeh aap hume bhi batao ki Reservation punishabe offense kaise ho gaya? Yeh baat to aaj dikhe pehli bar suni bhai,maka hume bhi samjha de aisa kaise hai???????????
    Hum bhi janna chawe ki tunne kaun sa formula lagaya.Abhi to tum isse punishable offense bata rahe ho ,aur jab reservation mil jayga tab sabse aage Delhi vale he dikhege DU ,IP & other universities mai admission kai liye.Totally rediculous

  17. #94
    " Yes avinash bhai it was unfortunate ,the defeat of RLD ,Anuradha choudhary ,but there were so many personaal enemity involved in that election between RLD & congress Harendra Malik. "

    This was what i wanted to convey. Jaat, Jaat ki kaat karega toh kaise chalega.
    Theek hai Harendar Malik ke RLD se Rishte thodse kharab ho gaye us waqt, par kuchh jaaton ka toh khyal rakhna chahiye tha. Aise toh hai nai ke use ye nai maloom tha ki Do jaaton ki ladai mein koi teesra jeetega.
    Jaan boojh ke uthaya gaya kadam tha woh, aur woh bhi paison ke liye ( this is one more explanation for his act ).

    Moreover, people are loosing faith in RLD High Command. Thaali ke Baingan ki tarah kbi is party toh kabhi us party. Haan, Jayant pe Dav lagaya ja sakta hai.
    Coz uski mathura seat pe uski takkar wala abhi tk toh koi nai hai.

    Jaha tak jaat , Gujjar ki baat hai toh kahi na kahi , Gujjars ki jealousy bhi dikh jaati hai. They think themselves to be equal to us or rather, better. And this thinking of their`s did arose due to their Economical upliftment in NCR region. Aur ye cheez desh ke doosre hisson mein bhi fail chuki hai. I am not saying everyone of them acts jealously but kahi na kahi ye baat hai. I am saying this coz i hav experienced such a thing, due a Gujjar friend who is the resident of mathura. Woh mathura ke jaaton ki burai karta hai aur meerut, muzaffarnagar walon ki achchhai.

  18. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by cutejaatsandeep View Post
    suuu to mai bhi haryanee kaa hi khardd gaoo 2kms from mayyar..maayyar kaa to rakaa ji apnee beraa hi hogaaa......baat rahi up ke jaato ki to wahaa ki sarkarr ki kamaaan eek non jat ke pass hai....thats y jaato ne track khalii kar diyeee.agar iss waqt haryane ka cm koi chamar yaa non jat hotaa pher picture kuch aur hi hoti.jaat jaat see chahee kahi kaa bhi ho.doosri baat aisaa koi samjhotaa nahi hua ki up walaa up mai hi karegaa n haryanee ka haryanaa mai hi karegaa...haryana mai rallly yashpal malik n hawa singh sangwan karwaa rahee hai on august 18......apnaa n apnee bhahiyo ka to puraa support see chahe pherr track roko...road roko yaa pherr govt.. buses mai aaag lagaoo.
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    Last edited by raka; August 10th, 2011 at 10:12 PM.
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  20. #96
    अविनाश भाई

    ऐसा एक किस्सा मेरे साथ भी घट चुका है
    मै LNUPE [लक्शिबाई नेशनल University ऑफ़ Physical Education ] में summer कैंप मै जाता था
    वहा गुज्जर की फ़ौज खेलने आती थी, में अछा खिलाडी था और उनसे मेरी अछी यारी थी
    सब मुझे चौधरी बुलाते थे

    एक दिन एक गुज्जर मेरे पास आके मेरा गाम पता पूछने लगा बोला '' कहा के चौधरी हो ?''
    मैंने कहा UP का, वह बोला ''मेरठ के हो क्या ?''
    मेरठ हो, मुज्जफानगर, बाघपत या बुलंदशहर[मेरा छेत्र] मुझे कुछ खास फरक नहीं पड़ता
    तोह मैंने कहा ''उसी छेत्र का समाज लो''
    वो बोला '' हा मेरठ के चौधरी बड़े दबंग होते है'' यह बोल वो चला गया

    मैंने घर आ के माँ से पुछा, माँ ने बताया की लोग UP मे सिर्फ मेरठ, मुज्जफानगर, व बाघपत के जाटो को ही धेड समजते है
    क्योकि वे खड़ी जाटू भाषा बोलते है.

    एक और किस्सा, मै ग्यारवी क्लास मै कोचिंग लगाने गया
    सर राजस्थानी ठाकुर थे, उन्होंने बिठाने से पहले जात पूछी
    मैंने कहा जाट, वे बोले हरयाणवी आती है ?
    मैंने कहा थोड़ी बोहोत,
    वे बोले कोण जाट हो ? कहा के ?
    मैंने कहा ठुकरेला, UP का
    बोले ठीक है, कल से आ जाना

    सर बड़े दबंग आदमी है, बनिए-बामनो से बड़ी खुन्नस है उनको, हमारी खूब पटी

  21. #97
    raka ji apsee mujhe kuch sekhne ko hi milegaa as u r elder to me but eek baat kehna chahta hu ki lalchiiii insaan kabhi woo nahi kar saktaaa jo malik saab ne kiya hai lik koi bhi jaat leader 20 dayz tak track pur nahi baith saktaa.chahee mai kitnaa bhi kattar jaa suu pher bhi mai tak aisa karne see pehlee 10000times soochungaaa.haryana mee police waale jaato see waisee hi nahi pangaa letee coz they form more thn 35% percent population in haryana phir chahe baat aarakshan ki ho yaa mirchpur kaand ki uss time to 3districts ko bilkul block kar diyaa tha jaato ne jind,hissar n bhiwani.teesri baat mai vijender daabas bhai ke liyee bolungaa ki mai bhi delhi mai rehtaa hu n i feell ki delhi ke jaat nakli hogeee coz unkee pass paisa aa gaaya hai zameen bechh kar.unko iss reservation ki abhi zaroorat nahi hai but lets c kab tak nahi padegi.kya aur jat group aisa kar saktee hai jo malik saab n sangwan ne karke dekhaya hai?sanyukt jat aarakshan samiti ko hi deekh loo sirf baatein karte rehtee hai saalee.yee sarkar tab tak nahi manegi jab tak action nahi hoga..eek baat aur clear karna chahungaa ki gujjar se zeyada unity jaato mai hai.gujjar agitation was only limited to 2 states whereas jat agitation up,haryana,rajasthan,punjab and j&k mai thaa.next time m suree aur jaat bhai iss agittion mai part leengeee.n the loss to railway in jat agitation was 3times more thn gujjar agitation

  22. #98
    Quote Originally Posted by raka View Post
    मेरी यहाँ क्षेत्रवाद फ़ैलाने या जाटों को बांटने की कोई मंशा नहीं हैं | मैंने वह सिर्फ इस लिए लिखा था की संदीप ने 18 की रैली का जिक्र किया था सो मैंने सोचा की संदीप को पता होगा सारी बातो का | चौ. हवा सिंह सांगवान और यशपाल मालिक में उसी दिन से अनबन शुरू हो गई थी जिस दिन यशपाल मालिक ने ट्रैक खाली किया था | जब मलिक साहब से इस बारे पूछा गया तो उन्होंने सफाई दी की कोर्ट के आदेश आ गए थे जब हरयाणा में आयेंगे तो आप लोग को पता लग जायेगा और उसके ठीक दो दिन बाद हरयाणा में भी कोर्ट के आदेश हुए परन्तु हरयाणा वालो ने कोई ट्रैक खाली नहीं किया | जाट गैर जाट मुख्यमंत्री की बात छोड़ो अगर हरयाणा में गैर जाट होता तो भी ये ट्रैक खाली नहीं होते | मलिक साहब से आजतक उत्तरप्रदेश में जाट नहीं जुटे जो जुटे थे वो ट्रैक छोड़ने के बाद उनको छोड़ गए और कुछ को मलिक साहब ने पहले ही काट दिया था | अब यही फैसला हुआ था की सभी अपने अपने प्रान्तों में काम करेंगे वहा के संगठनो को मजबूत करेंगे | जब हरयाणा इस आदोलन को कामयाबी के रास्ते पर ले आया तो मलिक साहब दो रथ ले कर अमृतसर पहुच गए जिन पर किसी जाट बुजुर्ग की तस्वीर नहीं सिर्फ खुद की तस्वीर पर पूरा जोर दे रखा था | उन्होंने अपने आप को चौ.छोटूराम और चौ.चरण सिंह से बड़ा मान लिया | जिस दिन से जाटों ने ट्रैक छोड़ा मलिक साहब अपने प्रदेश में नहीं घुसे हैं | जबकि आज के वक़्त सबसे कमजोर संगठन उत्तर प्रदेश का हैं |
    यह बड़े दुर्भाग्य की बात हैं की मलिक साहब (अध्यक्ष) ने इसको एक राजनैतिक एवं व्यापारिक निवेश समझ कर गाँव और कस्बो में जाट आरक्षण के नाम पर पैसा उगाना शुरू कर दिया जबकि आन्दोलन की शुरुआत में इसकी जिम्मेवारी उन्होंने स्वयं ली थी | उनको लगा की आन्दोलन की आंशिक सफलता के बाद मैं अपना निवेश इन रथ यात्राओ के जरीय निकल लू | उनके इस कदम की वजह से पंजाब ,हरयाणा , उत्तर प्रदेश , दिल्ली , राजस्थान के पदाधिकारियों ने ऐतराज जाता कर इसे एक अमानत में खयानत वाला कृत्य समझ पल्ला झाड़ लिया |Click image for larger version. 

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    to yeh hai sachaai....aaj byara paatya..main bhi to nu kahu ki bina kisi swarth ke yu aandolan kyooker khada karya mailk sahab ne.aaj ke yug main community ki itni shud to koi bhagwan ka awtarbhi na le sakda...arr iss andolan ka fuss hone tai nayra aur koi result kona likde..chahe kithhe hi rolla kar lyo..haryana main baingan bhi na mile..wo to jat votta ka lihaaz tha ..na to hooda paacha toodwa deta...

    arr raka bhai tu khule aam malik sahab ki galti kahad ry ahai..aandolan pe ke farak padega uska..aakhirkaar aapsi matbhed aa hi gaye saamhi....inn jaata ka bhagwan bhi bhala kona kar sakta..
    Last edited by prashantacmet; August 11th, 2011 at 02:17 PM.
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  23. #99
    gujjars ,hahahhahaahhahahah funny comparison..... leave ncr reason otherwise gujjars are worse than chamars.....

    they jst hv 7 mp (INCLUDIN ONE MUSLIM GUJJAR)...
    i mayor(OF MERRUT)...
    3 IAS
    8 ips
    i saw all this figure in gujjars samaj....
    and 40% of gujjars are uneducated.....they are induljed in buffalo,ship rearing.....
    and ncr gujjars were similar some 15 years back......
    so please dont compare them with jats,rather do it with chamars.......

  24. #100
    Raka ji aapko UP ki politics ki kitni knowledge hai jo aap UP kai bare mai itna kuch suna rahe ho yaha bet kar.In UP jaats are only 7-8 % that too are present only in Western UP(20 districts).UP politics is very different from any other state politics.UP is a very huge state.You talk Yashpal Malik ,you said that he is a greddy person.Everybody is greedy in politics,some are upto are less extent & others are more.
    But hum acha usse kehte hai ,jo humari community kai liye kuch kare,farmers kai liye kuch kare.Yashpal mailk was supported by BSP to overcome the hold of RLD chief Ajit singh in UP .In UP still jats are behing Ajit singh.Yashpal Malik is a good person & good politician as well ,no doubt that guy believes in action but he did not have the image of the National leader till now like Ch Ajit singh.
    Raka ji yaha site par bet kar baat banana bhot aasan hota hai ,agar UP kai JAAT itne kamjor hote to Bhatta-parsaul mai yeh case na hota.There are very limited jaat villages in greater noida region(gujjar's area) but still they fight against the police & rapid action force till 6 hours.This BSP govt. really fells jeaolusy towards jaats as so many incidents had been done by jaat leaders against him.U dont be even knowing about them ,like the statement issue done by Ch Mahendra singh Tikait & so many other incidents as well.


    Raka jiU r sitting in Haryana?Do u have the guts to abuse the CM of Haryana in front of media ?????????Baba Tikait made the comment about Mayawati in front of whole Media.Govt even use the PSC,RAF forces but they were not able to even touch the Baba tikait.Jara ak baar tum bhi aisa kuch karke dikhago ,tab mane tume bhi tume choudhary sahab,is baat kai jawab jarur dena choudhary sahab.

    You talk about dispute between Yashapal malik & Hawa singh Sanghwan ,raka ji dispute to sage bhaio kai bich mai bi hoti hai,baap-bete kai bich me hoti hai,agar koi dispute hai bhi to usse sultana chaie.
    Yashpal Malik Kai piche BSP ki chamari Mayawati ka support tha ,aur vo Ajit singh ki khilafat kar raha tha ,islie UP kai jaat uske saat nahi kahde hue,kyoki vo apne aap ko kahi na kahi sabse badha dikhane ki khosis kar raha hai yeh baat aapne tik kahi ,i agree at this point.
    Aapne kaha ki aaj kai samay mai jaato ka sabse kamjor sangthan hai uska reason hai jaato ki aapsi fut,lekin iska matlab yeh nahi ki yaha kai jaat bekar hai.I have given u many examples already & secodly vote bank matters a lot in politics.
    I dont want to show here jaats of UP are very brave or anything else."JAAT IS JAAT CHAHE KAHI KA BHI HO ,THIS IS MY THINKING".

    I am sorry sir if my language was offensive & rash but such kind of things i did not expect.
    Just an example in my college time ,there were many jaats in my college from Rajasthan ,Haryana & they were very close to me even than some of my coussin brothers.I never let them face any problem in the college & outside as well.

    So now what u say sir?
    Last edited by ashishsehrawat9; August 11th, 2011 at 04:44 PM.

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