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    How influx of Bangladeshi migrants, terror is interlinked !!!!

    Riazul Sarkar alias Akash Khan, arrested from Kishanganj on Saturday night in connection with July 13 Mumbai blasts, is in all probability a Bangladeshi who intruded into India. His arrest throws light on the problem of illegal migrants and how they pose a security threat to the country. Vicky Nanjappa reports

    After the probe in the triple blasts in Mumbai started all eyes are on Kishanganj, a district in Bihar, from where Riazul Sarkar alias Akash Khan, was arrested on Saturday night. There is so far no clue of Sarkar's involvement in blasts and investigating agencies are still trying to ascertain whether he is a terrorist or just an illegal immigrant.

    Intelligence Bureau reports most migrants come in search of jobs and end up working as construction labourers or maids in various parts of the country. There is no proper record on their movement, which makes the task of the investigating agencies tougher.However, this case brings to fore the issue of illegal migrants, which is termed as a potential security risk to the country. Recent estimate suggests that nearly 20 million illegal migrants from Bangladesh have settled in the country. They have fanned out across India, but a majority of them are seeking refuge in West Bengal and Bihar.

    Kishenganj has today turned into a hub for such migrants. There are many men and women, who have found employment in and around Bihar and some have moved to Delhi. Their movement is controlled by touts, who also get a cut from their income, and they help these migrants send money back home to Bangladesh. The transaction of money along the borders is also handled by the touts.

    It has been reported that the migrants residing in Kishenganj have been give ration cards and well as voter IDs. Giving them a permanent status makes it difficult of security agencies to zero in on them.

    Many migrants indulge in petty crimes; some even get involved in terror activities. They do not plan or execute acts, but work as foot soldiers.

    Pakistan's Inter-Services have been quick to rope in migrants taking advantage of their poor monetary conditions. They are often used for illegal gun trade or for supply for counterfeit currency. Some are also used to plant bombs during terror attacks.

    What works to the advantage of terrorists is the fact that there is no record of illegal migrants and hence they can easily give a slip to investigators. However, this is no new trend. Investigation points that migrants may have been used in the 2007 Hyderabad twin blasts. "Terrorists often pick up migrants and ask them to 'place a packet' containing explosives at the target. Not aware of what the parcel contains, the migrants 'run the errand' for a mere Rs 1,000 at times," say sources.

    It is Sarkar's arrest that has drawn the attention of the investigators to the threat of illegal migrants, who double up as foot soldiers. Some of them have been living in Kishengunj for 20 years and over the years their population is booming.

    Police sources say that Bangladeshis often slip in and out of the country by paying the touts, who are in connivance with security forces at the border, a mere Rs 500. After carrying out a blast, they go back to their country never to return. Many have come to Kishengunj from West Bengal, which is a two-hour drive from the district.

    An IB report on this issue states the number of illegal migrants from Bangladesh is on rise and most of them can be traced to West Bengal.

    The report also adds that secret service officials from both Pakistan and Bangladesh have found to be working undercover in Bengal. Moreover, recruiters set up terror modules in the belts of Bihar, West Bengal, Tripura and Assam.

    Experts point out that this issue needs to be tackled diplomatically. But to start with India needs a better database of people entering the country. Security agencies need to ensure that migrants are not given voting rights. Border security remains the key issue as such infiltration remains unabated because of low-raking officers posted on the border.
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  3. #2
    Sir ji IB ho ya CBI, yeh agencies bas chanbeen kar sakti hain. Fir unpe action lenna sarkar ka kaam hai, jo kabhi hota naheen hai due to the sole reason vote bank politics. Udhar key local MLAs help these people get voter ids so they can get their votes.
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    I think it's hard to crack down upon illegal migrants in India. But if there is a will, then it is possible to do so. Why don’t put some application online, which does check upon person’s entitlement to work in the country. Expose the website to public and organisations. For example in Australia, there is web application called VEVO(Visa Entitlements Verification Online).


    http://www.immi.gov.au/managing-aust...s/evo-orgs.htm


    Access to the website is free. Organisation can go online and check person's work entitlement by entering few details like person name, passport number etc. So Organisations can easily know about person's entitlement without contacting Government Department, which is a tedious task in India. In India, contacting a department and getting answers might take months or years .


    I think Government is India is very slack in introducing such initiatives. I know this application cannot be full-blown solution to curb the illegal migrants but atleast it can help in curbing the illegal migration to some extent. But again, who cares. Bureaucrats are busy in making money. Illegal migration could be one of their income source !!

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    मेरे 'home town' का एक व्यक्ति जो सरकारी कर्मचारी है, कुछ वर्ष अजमेर नगर पालिका में भी उसकी पोस्टिंग हुई थी, मुझे बता रहा था कि 'अजमेर दरगाह' बंगला देशी घुसपैठियों के लिए स्वर्ग है. भारत में घुसपैठ करते ही सबसे पहले अजमेर आते हैं, कुछ समय वहां रहते हैं और वहां अपने राशन कार्ड, वोटर आई. डी. बहुत सरलता से बना लेते हैं. एक बार राशन कार्ड और वोटर आई. डी. बन जाने के पश्चात ये घुसपैठिये भारत में अपने मन पसंद स्थान को प्रस्थान कर देते हैं.
    India and Israel (Hindus & Jews) are true friends in this World. Both are Long Live and yes also both have survived and surviving under adverse conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rajpaldular View Post
    मेरे 'home town' का एक व्यक्ति जो सरकारी कर्मचारी है, कुछ वर्ष अजमेर नगर पालिका में भी उसकी पोस्टिंग हुई थी, मुझे बता रहा था कि 'अजमेर दरगाह' बंगला देशी घुसपैठियों के लिए स्वर्ग है. भारत में घुसपैठ करते ही सबसे पहले अजमेर आते हैं, कुछ समय वहां रहते हैं और वहां अपने राशन कार्ड, वोटर आई. डी. बहुत सरलता से बना लेते हैं. एक बार राशन कार्ड और वोटर आई. डी. बन जाने के पश्चात ये घुसपैठिये भारत में अपने मन पसंद स्थान को प्रस्थान कर देते हैं.
    hahahahaha!!! Rajpal Bhai ji, jabhi maine kaha tha ki bahut muskil hai..India bahut hi kamal ka desh hai..Yahan aap koi bhi System rakho wahi fail ho jata hai..Loopholes nikal lete hain jabhi logg aur system ko jaad se ukhaad dete hain :D. Indian Railway ne Online tickets book karne ke service khol rakhi hai..ye service isliye di thi taaki logon ko sahooliyat mile aur ghar baith ke ticket book kara dein but usko bhi nahi baksha loggon ne..kuch logg tatkaal tickets ko pehle hi book karake baad mei kaafi higher rates par bechte hain..jaab ye mamla saamne aaya to Government ne kuch aur initiative liya hai..taaki logg bach sakein is ghooskhori se.. to bhai initiative to liye hi ja sakte hain.wo to chalte hi rehne chahiye.
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    Open border with Bangladesh, vote bank politics of congress and CPM are biggest reasons behind illegal Bangladeshi problem. They are everywhere and they get passport from India and come to work in Gulf countries also as some Gulf countries do not issue visas to Bangladeshis now so its a big business in Bangladesh and India to get illegal Bangladeshis in India, get their passport and send them over in this region.
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    hosake aapni nakami ne chhuppan ka workaorund ho CBI ka, akk kisse bhi mare gire ne thya ke dhar do iljaam uske maathe... maka nyu to hojaga ki CBI is doing its job ...sab chonchle hai... arr haan ho sake CBI ne hi bomb safely plant karn ki jagah investigate kari ho... lol

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  15. #8
    CBI is a machinery in governments hand which they use from time to time to curb opposition. This has been effectively used when they face some hurdles from coalition partners in the government. Like Karunanidhi was giving some hard time, now they can keep on with the coalition as well as keep him under controll.

    One funny thing i have always noted is that congress is very good in diverting peoples attention from the real issues. Before the bomb blast there was too much attention on the black money & Lokpal etc. After bomb blast, they seem to have diverted peoples attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    Open border with Bangladesh, vote bank politics of congress and CPM are biggest reasons behind illegal Bangladeshi problem. They are everywhere and they get passport from India and come to work in Gulf countries also as some Gulf countries do not issue visas to Bangladeshis now so its a big business in Bangladesh and India to get illegal Bangladeshis in India, get their passport and send them over in this region.
    As many as 7,691 and 32,644 Bangladeshis were found to be overstaying in India even after their visas expired.

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/i...w/10725293.cms

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    Climate Change Effect on Migration


    http://www.climategrump.net/2011/03/why-125-million-living-on-the-indian-subcontinent-may-have-to-migrate/



    According to Indian climate scientists, 125 million people are likely to migrate in the coming century of which 75 million will be from Bangladesh. The people from Bangladesh will most likely migrate to India in addition to their own 50 to 60 million people who will be displaced due to sea-level rise and resulting water source scarcities.



    So India will be flooded with more Bangladeshis . What is Indian government take on that?




    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    Open border with Bangladesh, vote bank politics of congress and CPM are biggest reasons behind illegal Bangladeshi problem. They are everywhere and they get passport from India and come to work in Gulf countries also as some Gulf countries do not issue visas to Bangladeshis now so its a big business in Bangladesh and India to get illegal Bangladeshis in India, get their passport and send them over in this region.
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    UID project trashed?!


    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article2717949.ece


    Aadhaar: time to disown the idea


    The government should pay heed to the parliamentary standing committee's views and suspend the Aadhaar project. It would be a travesty to push the project in through the backdoor.

    “…The Committee categorically convey their unacceptability of the National Identification Authority of India Bill, 2010…The Committee would, thus, urge the Government to reconsider and review the UID scheme.…”

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  23. #12
    Do we actually have any government in this country??

    We have a bunch of thugs sitting in the north block and the south block (Govt. seat of power) who charge a commission for everything legal and illegal happening in this country.

    For the underworld (Dawood), terrorists (Kasab, Afzal Guru, etc.) and black money/hawala dealers (Hasan Ali) NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE as long as the govt. cut is delivered to their masters either in India directly or indirectly to the Swiss Bank accounts of the political masters.

    And we would still VOTE for the Congress (As in Ratia) - For our petty gains and the enticing political antics of the First (Gandhi) family, we are mortgaging the future of our country and the future of our future generations... Shame on us!!
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    The findings are really eye opening. First, Govt. worked on it by itself without parliament approval. The propaganda made by govt. was such that even the well educated and knowledgeble people appreciated it but no one paid attention on the real ordinance.
    Secondly, biggest for me is, this data collection is done without citizenship check which means anybody residing in India can get an Aadhaar number. Illegal Bangladeshis are the first one to grab it. It has to be based on residence proof and Indian citizen.

    Excerpts from the article:

    "Secondly, the SCoF raises serious questions about the enrolment process followed for Aadhaar numbers. The issue of Aadhaar numbers “is riddled with serious lacunae,” and this problem can be traced to conceptualisation “with no clarity of purpose” and implementation in “a directionless way with a lot of confusion.” For instance, the Ministry of Finance felt that there was “lack of coordination” across the six agencies collecting personal information, leading to “duplication of efforts and expenditure.” The Ministry of Home raised “serious security concerns” over the introducer model used to enrol persons without any proof of residence.

    The report concludes that the enrolment process “compromises the security and confidentiality of information of Aadhaar number holders,” and has “far reaching consequences for national security.” The reason: “the possibility of possession of Aadhaar numbers by illegal residents through false affidavits/introducer system.”

    Quote Originally Posted by atishmohan View Post
    UID project trashed?!


    http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/lead/article2717949.ece


    Aadhaar: time to disown the idea


    The government should pay heed to the parliamentary standing committee's views and suspend the Aadhaar project. It would be a travesty to push the project in through the backdoor.

    “…The Committee categorically convey their unacceptability of the National Identification Authority of India Bill, 2010…The Committee would, thus, urge the Government to reconsider and review the UID scheme.…”
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    The findings are really eye opening. First, Govt. worked on it by itself without parliament approval. The propaganda made by govt. was such that even the well educated and knowledgeble people appreciated it but no one paid attention on the real ordinance.
    Secondly, biggest for me is, this data collection is done without citizenship check which means anybody residing in India can get an Aadhaar number. Illegal Bangladeshis are the first one to grab it. It has to be based on residence proof and Indian citizen.

    Excerpts from the article:

    "Secondly, the SCoF raises serious questions about the enrolment process followed for Aadhaar numbers. The issue of Aadhaar numbers “is riddled with serious lacunae,” and this problem can be traced to conceptualisation “with no clarity of purpose” and implementation in “a directionless way with a lot of confusion.” For instance, the Ministry of Finance felt that there was “lack of coordination” across the six agencies collecting personal information, leading to “duplication of efforts and expenditure.” The Ministry of Home raised “serious security concerns” over the introducer model used to enrol persons without any proof of residence.

    The report concludes that the enrolment process “compromises the security and confidentiality of information of Aadhaar number holders,” and has “far reaching consequences for national security.” The reason: “the possibility of possession of Aadhaar numbers by illegal residents through false affidavits/introducer system.”
    Third is how much money has been spent so far on this project. How the government is going to recover the loss due to this mismanagement!

    Excerpt from the article:

    The total cost of the Aadhaar project would run into multiples of ten thousand crore of rupees. For just Phase 1 and 2, where 10 crore residents were to be enrolled, the allocation was Rs. 3,170 crore. For Phase 3, where another 10 crore residents are to be enrolled, the allocation is Rs. 8,861 crore. In a rough extrapolation, for 120 crore residents the total cost would then be over Rs. 72,000 crore. Is the Comptroller and Auditor General listening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakhar77 View Post
    The findings are really eye opening. First, Govt. worked on it by itself without parliament approval. The propaganda made by govt. was such that even the well educated and knowledgeble people appreciated it but no one paid attention on the real ordinance.
    Secondly, biggest for me is, this data collection is done without citizenship check which means anybody residing in India can get an Aadhaar number. Illegal Bangladeshis are the first one to grab it. It has to be based on residence proof and Indian citizen.

    Excerpts from the article:

    "Secondly, the SCoF raises serious questions about the enrolment process followed for Aadhaar numbers. The issue of Aadhaar numbers “is riddled with serious lacunae,” and this problem can be traced to conceptualisation “with no clarity of purpose” and implementation in “a directionless way with a lot of confusion.” For instance, the Ministry of Finance felt that there was “lack of coordination” across the six agencies collecting personal information, leading to “duplication of efforts and expenditure.” The Ministry of Home raised “serious security concerns” over the introducer model used to enrol persons without any proof of residence.

    The report concludes that the enrolment process “compromises the security and confidentiality of information of Aadhaar number holders,” and has “far reaching consequences for national security.” The reason: “the possibility of possession of Aadhaar numbers by illegal residents through false affidavits/introducer system.”
    And one more point:

    Will government fire any bureaucrat who made these decisions? Or its going to be the same "Sab Chalta hai" attitude.

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  31. #16
    Fake currency racket from Bangladesh, one caught in Godhra. There must be some local contacts who were helping him there, a dangerous nexus of fake currency and extremism?

    http://news.outlookindia.com/items.aspx?artid=746299

    Bangladesh, Nepal and Pakistan are heavens for fake currency traders and India has open borders with all of them. One of the most serious threat to Indian economy.

    Bangladesh, which couldn't have been Bangladesh without India's help, is heaven for extremists and rougue associations working against India.

    Was it worth helping them?
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  33. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by AbhikRana View Post
    Do we actually have any government in this country??

    We have a bunch of thugs sitting in the north block and the south block (Govt. seat of power) who charge a commission for everything legal and illegal happening in this country.

    For the underworld (Dawood), terrorists (Kasab, Afzal Guru, etc.) and black money/hawala dealers (Hasan Ali) NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE as long as the govt. cut is delivered to their masters either in India directly or indirectly to the Swiss Bank accounts of the political masters.

    And we would still VOTE for the Congress (As in Ratia) - For our petty gains and the enticing political antics of the First (Gandhi) family, we are mortgaging the future of our country and the future of our future generations... Shame on us!!
    if voters indeed fall for antics, as you have written, I think it means the people who vote them are foolish. do you think poor people of this country, who make up the majority, would be interested in watching antics if they don't have enough to eat? - i don't think so.

  34. #18
    Court on Bangladeshis in India:

    http://articles.timesofindia.indiati...ke-ration-card

    Excerpt...

    NEW DELHI: A trial court has criticized the government for indulging in "petty votebank politics" and preventing action against three crore Bangladeshi nationals, who are illegally staying in the country and enjoying the benefits meant for the citizens of this land.

    "It is unfortunate that while genuine citizens of this country continue to suffer in abject poverty, it is petty votebank politics which prevents a firm, resolute and intense government action against the three crore Bangladeshi nationals staying illegally in our country, enjoying the benefits which otherwise are the entitlements of citizens, thereby compelling the courts to step in," additional sessions judge Kamini Lau said.
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