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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    During the ancient time in Ancient India, the brahmin people settled around the present day region of Pakistan that borders Afghanistan, were in habit of eating " poori " with " sat-saag " (a kind of a saag composed of seven vegetables).
    One can observe that this is still a popular diet in Khajuraho, a town in the Indian state of Madhya Pradesh, located in Chhatarpur District.
    It is very interesting information. It would be nice if anybody could trace the relationship between the Khajuraho People and the Afghan/Pakistan people of the Ancient times.

  2. #162

    does food-habits matters ?!

    Dear Sir,


    Actually, today, while I was watching NDTV, I noticed this fact being put forward by Vinod Dua (who is one of My favourites in the respective field, alongwith Punya Prasun Bajpai) during his show, Zaika India Ka.


    -->>
    खजुराहो से जायका इंडिया का : http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/zai...o-story/254464 <<--


    Gentlemen, how much weight does food-habits carry while unfolding the chapters of History ?!


    I would like to have comments from Respected Seniors and Talented Members !!

    ----

    Sincerely !!
    Last edited by Moar; November 11th, 2012 at 08:30 PM.

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    Dear Sir,


    Actually, today, while I was watching NDTV, I noticed this fact being put forward by Vinod Dua (who is one of My favourites in the respective field, alongwith Punya Prasun Bajpai) during his show, Zaika India Ka.


    -->>
    खजुराहो से जायका इंडिया का : http://www.ndtv.com/video/player/zai...o-story/254464 <<--


    Gentlemen, how much weight does food-habits carry while unfolding the chapters of History ?!



    I would like to have comments from Respected Seniors and Talented Members !!

    ----

    Sincerely !!
    We would eagerly await the co-relation of Khajuraho people of today and the ancient Brahmins. How Ancient, we have no hint.

    If any body succeeds in establishing some sort of vegetables and poories of the past with todays eatables, it would be a wonderful finding and enrich our knowledge of past history as well as contemporary polity.

  4. #164
    Jahazgarh was founded by George Thomas

    [Wiki]Jahazgarh[/Wiki] (जहाजगढ़) is village in Beri tahsil of Jhajjar district of Haryana.

    George Thomas, who had come to the assistance of the Rai Kot Chief, was an Englishman of some tact and courage, who had come to India in the year 1781, and had Wandered about the country seeking his fortune for several years, till he was taken into the service of the famous Zebun Nissa, more commonly known as Begum Samru.


    In 1792, for some misconduct, he was reduced in rank, and left her service in disgust for that of Apa Khandi Rao, a Mahratta Chief, relative of Madhaji Sindhia, and master of the Jhajjar, Dadri, and Narnol territory. Thomas raised troops for the Mahrattas and instructed them as well as he was able in the European system of drill, and, in return, the district of Jhajjar was assigned him in jagir. Here he built a fort which he named "Georgegarh," but which, by the people, was corrupted into " Jahazgarh." (Ref: [Wiki]The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State[/Wiki], p.81)
    Laxman Burdak

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  6. #165
    What was Chaudhari in historical times:
    The title of Chaudhari is used mainly by Jats in North-West India and Pakistan. Let us try to understand how it was started.

    The epi-person of Faridkot Rulers - Barar had two sons, Paur and Dhul, the younger of whom is the ancestor of the Raja of Faridkot, and of the Barar clan.

    Paur, being worsted, fell into great poverty, in which his family remained for several generations, till Sanghar restored their fortunes.

    Emperor Babar invaded India in 1524, Sanghar when Sanghar entered his army ; but soon afterwards he was killed at the battle of Panipat, on the 21st April 1526, when Babar defeated Ibrahim Lodi, with great slaughter, and gained the Empire of Dehli.

    This victory did not, however, lead him to forget the services of Sanghar, to whose son Bariam, he gave the Chaudhriyat of the waste country to the south-west of Dehli, which office was confirmed to him by Humayun, the son and successor of Babar, in 1554.

    The name of Bariam is the only one by which this chief is historically known, but it was not his original name, and was given him by the Emperor in honor of his bravery, and signifies brave, Buhadar. He lived for the most part at Neli, the village of Sidhu's maternal relations, and also re-built Bhidowal, which had become deserted. He was killed about the year 1560, fighting with the Bhattis, and with him fell his grandson Suttoh. He left two sons, Mehraj, (commonly known as Maharaj) who succeeded to the Chaudhriyat.

    Griffin has defined Chaudhari : A Chaudhri was, in the tine of the Empire, the head-man in a certain District, for the revenue collection of which he was responsible, receiving a percentage on the collections. His office was termed “Chaudhariyat." (Ref:[Wiki]The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State[/Wiki], pp.4-5)

    It is clear from above description that Jat Chaudhari enjoyed the same status as District Collector whose function during British time was mainly revenue collection.
    Laxman Burdak

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  8. #166
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    What was Chaudhari in historical times:
    The title of Chaudhari is used mainly by Jats in North-West India and Pakistan. Let us try to understand how it was started.

    The epi-person of Faridkot Rulers - Barar had two sons, Paur and Dhul, the younger of whom is the ancestor of the Raja of Faridkot, and of the Barar clan.

    Paur, being worsted, fell into great poverty, in which his family remained for several generations, till Sanghar restored their fortunes.

    Emperor Babar invaded India in 1524, Sanghar when Sanghar entered his army ; but soon afterwards he was killed at the battle of Panipat, on the 21st April 1526, when Babar defeated Ibrahim Lodi, with great slaughter, and gained the Empire of Dehli.

    This victory did not, however, lead him to forget the services of Sanghar, to whose son Bariam, he gave the Chaudhriyat of the waste country to the south-west of Dehli, which office was confirmed to him by Humayun, the son and successor of Babar, in 1554.

    The name of Bariam is the only one by which this chief is historically known, but it was not his original name, and was given him by the Emperor in honor of his bravery, and signifies brave, Buhadar. He lived for the most part at Neli, the village of Sidhu's maternal relations, and also re-built Bhidowal, which had become deserted. He was killed about the year 1560, fighting with the Bhattis, and with him fell his grandson Suttoh. He left two sons, Mehraj, (commonly known as Maharaj) who succeeded to the Chaudhriyat.

    Griffin has defined Chaudhari : A Chaudhri was, in the tine of the Empire, the head-man in a certain District, for the revenue collection of which he was responsible, receiving a percentage on the collections. His office was termed “Chaudhariyat." (Ref:The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State, pp.4-5)

    It is clear from above description that Jat Chaudhari enjoyed the same status as District Collector whose function during British time was mainly revenue collection.
    Burdakji,

    Very interesting information on the meaning of the word 'Chaudhary'.

    Has the term 'Jat Chaudhari' used in the book under reference or Griffin uses it simply to explain 'Chaudhariat'. As no such meaning was given to the Revenue officers under the Mughals as quoted by Griffin.

    Perhaps, Griffin has over-simplified/over-stretched the meaning/area of the word Chaudhary.

    Kindly share your information if the title of Chaudhary was given specially to a specific caste persons like Jats or to any of the Revenue collectors belonging to other castes also in the Mughal and the British times, please.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; December 21st, 2012 at 09:47 AM.

  9. #167
    Rajpalji

    Title of Chaudhari was given to Sanghar who was a Sindhu Jat ancestor of the Patiala and Nabha Jat rulers. In the footnote Griffin has explained Chaudhariyat. See on Jatland Wiki at - [Wiki]The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State [/Wiki], pp.4-5)
    Laxman Burdak

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  11. #168
    Griffin has mentioned very interesting info about Rama the founder of the Pattiala family.

    Rama obtains the Collectorship of jungle Ilaqa :

    The Dehli Empire was at this time fast falling to decay, and could with difficulty of the maintain its authority in the out-lying districts beyond the Jamna.

    Rama thought the opportunity a good one to increase his own authority ; and as he had a friend at the Court of the Muhammadan Governor of Sirhind, in the person of his cousin Chen Singh, he was able to obtain permission to superintend what was then known as the jungle Ilaka or waste district, on promise of payment of all his arrears of revenue. Chen Singh was to act with him as Joint-Governor.

    See Jatland Wiki at - [Wiki]The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State[/Wiki], p. 12
    Laxman Burdak

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  13. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Rajpalji

    Title of Chaudhari was given to Sanghar who was a Sindhu Jat ancestor of the Patiala and Nabha Jat rulers. In the footnote Griffin has explained Chaudhariyat. See on Jatland Wiki at - The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State , pp.4-5)
    Thanks Burdakji for sharing the Information provided by Griffin.

    However, I would like to draw your attention to more comprehensive meaning and scope of the term 'Chaudhary' on the Wiki page [http://www.jatland.com/home/Chaudhary] , an extract out of which is reproduced for ready reference:

    However, during the Sikh rule in Punjab this title became very common and quite a few village headmen or 'Lumberdars' were given the title of 'Chowdhury' by Maharaja Ranjit Singh. Ever since, the Chowdhurys of Chakwal style themselves as 'Chowdhurial' to distinguish themselves from the newly appointed men.


    In northern Indian states such as Haryana, Rajasthan and Uttar Pradesh, the title is used by Jats, Rajputs, Gujjars and other landowning ethinic groups. However, it is also used by the Brahman-Zamindar, Muslim, mewari-kayasth.

    Thanks.
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  15. #170
    The eminent historians like Lepel H. Griffin make mistake in distinguishing between Jats and Rajputs.

    I quote from his book:

    "Most of the services of the Maharaja in 1858 were rendered at Dholepur, a small Rajput State between Agra and Gwalior, the Chief of which, Rana Bhagwant Singh, had married his daughter." ([Wiki]The Rajas of the Punjab by Lepel H. Griffin/The History of the Patiala State[/Wiki], p.237).

    We know that Dholpur was a state of [Wiki]Bamraulia Jats[/Wiki]. This terrotory was handed over to them in exchange of [Wiki]Gohad[/Wiki].

    The War between the English and Sindhia was brought to an end by the treaty of Surji-Anjangaon, which was signed on 30th December 1803 AD. Under the terms of this treaty, the English Government obtained from Sindhia possession of the regions that had been taken from the French in the Doab, together with certain territories in central Rajasthan, and to the west, none of which is pertinent here. Mahadji Sindhia was to retain possession of all those districts ‘to the south of Gohad, of which the revenues had been collected by him in person or through some officer, nominated on his behalf, or land which was held by him for defraying the expenses of his army.

    The treaty of Surji-Anjangaon gave vast powers to English in the territories of Marathas. The treaty signed by Ambaji Ingle was also implemented. Gwalior and Gohad had come to English. English signed a treaty with the successor of Gohad, Rana Kirat Singh, under which English handed over the erstwhile Gohad territory to Kirat Singh Rana in early 1804 AD. Kirat Singh Rana accepted Gohad and left the right on Gwalior fort in favour of English.

    Finally, in 1806, the territories of Dholpur, Ban and Rajakhera were handed over to the Maharaj Rana Kirat Singh of Gohad, in exchange for his state of Gohad, which was ceded to Sindhia.
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  17. #171
    Freedom fighters from Churu district

    We have compiled list of Freedom fighters on Jatland. Here is the list of Freedom Fighters from Churu district

    [Wiki]Freedom fighters from Churu district[/Wiki]
    Laxman Burdak

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  19. #172
    Here are some more lists compiled:

    [Wiki]‎Martyrs in Shekhawati farmers movement [/Wiki]

    [Wiki]Freedom fighters from Jhunjhunu district[/Wiki]

    [Wiki]Freedom fighters from Sikar district[/Wiki]

    You may prepare such lists for your own districts from local sources. That will be a big contribution towards construction of Jat History !!!
    Laxman Burdak

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  21. #173
    The Dabra Kand by Jagirdars on 13th March 1947

    Marwar Lok Parishad and Marwar Kisan Sabha fixed a meeting at village Dabra in Nagaur district for 13th March 1947. The Jagirdars got together in a bid to crush the political awakening among the Kisan and the black deed at Dabra was planned. In this the Jagirdars had the blessings and active support of the Maharaja. The Kisan Sammelan was to have been addressed jointly by leaders of Marwar Lok Parishad and Kisan Sabha. The jagirdars had collected nearly a thousand Rajputs of the surrounding area and had begun massive preparations three day in advance of the Kisan gathering to teach a lasting and final lesson to the agitating peasantry and the Jats in particular.

    Here is the story in Hindi about those brave Jats who became martyrs on this occasion: Historical story of the week !!!

    डाबड़ा काण्ड: 13 मार्च 1947
    डाबडा गाँव राजस्थान के नागौर जिले की डीडवाना तहसील में एक छोटासा ऐतिहासिक गाँव है। यह जाटों के बलिदानी इतिहास की थर्मो-पल्ली के नाम से जाना जाता है। डाबडा काण्ड भारत में स्वतंत्रता संग्राम के दौरान हुए काण्डों में सबसे भयंकर था जो अमृतसर के जलियावाला बाग काण्ड से कमतर नहीं है।

    डाबडा के किसानों ने जागीरी जुल्मों से तंग आकर कांग्रेसी नेताओं से निवेदन किया कि गाँव डाबड़ा में भी वे कांग्रेस की सभा करें। कांग्रेस ने 13 मार्च 1947 को डाबड़ा में सभा का निर्णय लिया। कांग्रेस की बैठक का समय 11 बजे था परन्तु सभी नेता सुबह साढ़े सात बजे ही डाबड़ा पहुँच गए। वे सीधे चौधरी पन्नाराम लोमरोड़ के घर पहुंचे। पन्नाराम जी ने उनका स्वागत किया और कुछ चर्चाएँ की। इतने में जागीरदार के बुलाये हजारों की तादाद में ऊँटों व घोड़ों पर सवार आतंकवादियों ने धावा बोल दिया। हालत देखकर पन्ना रामजी ने कांग्रेसियों को गुप्त रणनीति बनाने के लिए कहा और कांग्रेसी मोटर में बैठ कर रवाना हो गए।

    भयंकर और अजीब तरह की लड़ाई:

    पन्नाराम जी ने अपने घर में फलसे के किन्वाड़ को बंद कर अन्दर से जाब्ता कर दिया। हजारों की संख्या में ऊँटों व घोड़ों पर सवार जागीरदार के आतंकवादियों ने मिलकर एक साथ पन्नाराम जी के घर पर हमला बोल दिया । इसका मुकाबला अकेले पन्नारामजी लोमरोड़ ने किया। पन्नारामजी ने अपने हाथों में लम्बे नाळे की जेळी ली और घर के अन्दर से बाड़ के ऊपर से ही हमलावरों पर बचावी हमला बोल दिया। घर के बाहर वे हजारों हमलावरों से घिरे थे। घर की बाड़ इतनी ऊंची थी कि हमलावर आसानी से घर में नहीं घुस सकता था।

    पन्नाराम जी बाड़ के ऊपर से एक-एक हमलावर को जेळी का निशाना बनाते, उसकी छाती या गाल या आँखों पर वार इतने जोर से करते कि जेळी के सींगों में फस हमलावर जेळी वापस खींचने पर पन्नाराम जी के चरणों में आकर गिरता और कभी-कभी तो काँटों की बाड़ में ही फंस कर रह जाता। कितनी भयंकर और अजीब तरह की लड़ाई थी यह। केवल एक आदमी का केवल जेळी से हजारों हमलावरों से भयंकर युद्ध। अंत में बंदूकों और राईफलों की गोलियों से पन्नाराम जी का शरीर छलनी हो गया था फिर भी वे लडे जा रहे थे। भारत माता की जय के साथ वे शहीद हो गए। उनके अंतिम शब्द थे - "हरामजादों मैं मरकर भी जिन्दा रहूँगा, और तुम जीकर भी मरे समान जीवन व्यतीत करोगे"।

    उधर दक्षिण फ्रंट पर जो तीन महामानव हजारों हमलावरों से अकेले लड़ रहे थे उनके नाम थे -

    रामूराम जी लोल, निवासी लाडनू (नागौर)

    रुघाराम जी लोल, निवासी लाडनू (नागौर)

    किशनाराम जी लोल, निवासी लाडनू (नागौर)

    हमलावरों ने किसानों की ढाणियों में आग लगा दी थी। ढाणीयां बुरी तरह से जल रही थी। आग की लपटें आकाश को छू रही थी। ऐसे में ये तीनो महामानव जलती आग में कूद पड़े। आव-देखा न ताव हमलावरों को काट-काट कर मारने लगे। तीनों वीर योधाओं ने सैकड़ों हमलावरों को मौत के घाट उतारा। लेकिन अंत में अनगिनत गोलियों से घायल हो भारत माता के उच्चारण के साथ शहीद हो गए। ऐसे थे ये जाट वीर ! जागीरदार प्रमुख भी इनकी वीरता को छुपा न सका, उसने कहा था - "देख इनकी शूरता शत्रु भी कायल है। एक कदम भी पीछे न हटे, जब तक इंच-इंच न कट गए थे"।

    डाबड़ा गाँव में उनकी यादगार में बने अमर शहीद स्तम्भ प्रांगण पर आज भी शहीद मेले का आयोजन होता है तथा उन वीर जाट योधाओं को समस्त मानव जाति नमन कर प्रेरणा लेती है।

    अपरोक्त के अतिरिक्त एक और यौद्धा इस काण्ड में शहीद हुए थे वे थे नागौर जिले के अड़कसर गाँव के नंदराम जी मूंड

    इस काण्ड के प्रत्यक्ष दर्शकों में प्रस्तावित 13 मार्च 1947 की सभा को संबोधित करने वालों में समाज सुधारक और भजनोपदेशक चौधरी हीरासिंह चाहर भी थे जो इस काण्ड की पूर्णावधि के समय अपने साथियों के साथ जीप से डाबड़ा पहुंचे थे। तब जाकर पाँचों शहीदों का सामूहिक दाह संस्कार हो सका था और घायलों का मौलासर अस्पताल व जोधपुर में समुचित इलाज हो सका था।

    चौधरी हीरासिंह चाहर ने ऐसे वीर योद्धाओं को सत-सत नमन करते ये पंक्तियाँ कहीं थी -

    मैंने देखी है मारवाड़ में, कृषकों के कर में हथकड़ियाँ ।

    उनके आँगन में देखी है, चंद जली बुझी सी फुल झड़ियाँ ॥

    कुछ फूल खिले पर, महक सके कुछ घड़ियाँ ।

    जागीरों के साये में, जुड़ती रही जुल्मों की कड़ियाँ ॥

    तब हरिसिंह दहाड़ उठा, जागीरों में जंग , अब जीत कृषकों की।

    आज नहीं तो कल सही, बात कही मैं परसों की ॥

    You can read more on Jatland Wiki at the link - [Wiki]Dabda[/Wiki]
    Last edited by lrburdak; March 16th, 2013 at 01:07 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

  22. #174
    In the past, keeping genealogy was the work of priests or special people such as "Bhats" who were kept and paid to keep the geneology or clan history or family history. Warriors never had time to keep these records as they were always involved in fights and wars. Now, how this geneology was kept, recorded and shown to public totally depended on the keepers of this geneology. So ancient geneology has to be carefully seen and understood to take out relevant facts from biases, mythologies and molded (facts changed by record keepers) facts.

  23. #175
    Chaudhari Rupa Ram Maan

    There were many freedom fighters from Haryana and Uttar Pradesh who took part in Jagirdari abolition in Rajasthan, I came across one such fellow who played a key role in Ratangarh area of Rajasthan. Can somebody trace his place of Origin and family details ?

    Chaudhari Rupa Ram Maan was from Haryana. He was Head Constable in Railway Police at Ratangarh, Rajasthan. He left the job and founded Vidyarthi Bhawan at Sihagon Ki Chhatri in Ratangarh. Here he started educating farmer community boys. Initially his wife used to cook food for the boys. Vidyarthi Bhawan Ratangarh playsed very important role in spreading education and reforms.

    कांगड़ काण्ड में भूमिका

    न्याय न मिलने की उम्मीद में मेघसिंह आर्य के नेतृत्व में प्रतिनिधि मण्डल प्रजामंडल (प्रजा परिषद्) पहुंचा। प्रजामंडल ने एक जाँच दल काँगड़ गाँव भेजने का निर्णय लिया जिसमें हंसराज आर्य (भादरा) , दीप चंद (राजगढ़) , पं गंगाधर रंगा , प्रो केदारनाथ शर्मा, मौजीराम चांदगोठी , चौधरी रूपाराम मान, स्वामी सच्चिदानंद आदि थे। प्रतिनिधि मंडल रेल से उतर कर पैदल ही काँगड़ के लिए रवाना हुआ। गौशाला के पास हरी राम ढाका और भजनोपदेशक शीशराम लहूलुहान पड़े कराहते हुए मिले। उन्होंने सारी कहानी प्रतिनिधि मंडल को बताई और काँगड़ जाने से मना किया। मेघ सिंह आर्य को बताया गया कि तुम्हें तो जाते ही जान से मार देंगे, कह रहे थे कि मेघला खोतला मिल गया तो जान से मारेंगे। मेघ सिंह उनके साथ नहीं गए। प्रतिनिधियों को रस्ते में लोग मिले जो डरे हुए थे, सबने आप बीती बताई। प्रतिनिधि गाँव पहुंचे तो केवल ठाकुर के गुंडे सामंती लोग तथा पुलिस वाले थे। घर सूने पड़े थे। वे वापिस स्थिति का मुआयना कर 4 मील पैदल रतनगढ़ की तरफ आ गए तो पीछे से ठाकुर के गुंडे ऊँटों पर चढ़कर आ धमके तथा घेरकर पकड़ लिए गए तथा उन्हें वापस गढ़ में ले आये, जहाँ उनकी खूब पिटाई की।(उद्देश्य:पृ.21-22)

    नंगे करके उलटे लटका कर जूतों सहित ऊपर चढ़ गए। हाथों पर अलग, पैरों पर अलग तीन-तीन ,चार-चार आदमी चढ़ गए, खूब पिटाई की, बेहोश होने पर छोड़ दिया जाता और होश आने पर फिर पिटाई शुरू कर दी जाती। इस प्रकार 30 अक्टूबर 1946 से 1 नवम्बर 1946 तक पिटाई होती रही। छ: जनों की गुदा में मिर्ची के घोटे चला दिए। रूपाराम मान को कुएं पर जहाँ औरतें पानी भर रही थी, वहां नंगा करके पीटा तथा घोटे की जगह बांस गुदा में चढ़ा दिया, जिससे आंत फट गयी, बड़ी मुश्किल से चलकर रतनगढ़ आये वहां से बीकानेर आये, कोई इलाज नहीं होने दिया, ना ही रिपोर्ट पुलिस में लिखने दी। इनके पास 231 रुपये नगद थे तथा पेन्सिल, बटुआ आदि थे जो ठाकुर गोपसिंह ने खोस लिए। फिर इनका इलाज हिसार करवाया गया। ठाकुर के गुंडों ने पं. गंगाधर की जनेऊ तोड़ दी व चौटी उखाड ली तथा मूंह पर कुत्ते की बिष्ठ बाँध दी, यही हाल प्रो. केदारनाथ शर्मा का हुआ।(उद्देश्य:पृ.22)


    प्रजामंडल ने देश के अखबारों में खबर दी, जनता का दिल खोल उठा। राजा ने कोई सुनवाई नहीं की थी। जब पहले जत्थे की पिटाई हो रही थी तो जासासर के ठाकुर ने खबर दी कि पंजाब, हरयाणा व अन्य गाँवों से 10 हजार जाट हमला करने के लिए आ रहे हैं तो जागीरदारों और ठाकुर गोपसिंह में घबराहट बढ़ गयी। रतनगढ़ के कायमखानी वहां से खिसक लिए। ठाकुर के अन्य लोग भी भयभीत हो गए और भाग छूटे । गढ़ में केवल पुलिस के जवान व गिने-चुने जागीरदार बचे थे, गढ़ खाली हो गया था। ऐसी दुर्दशा किसानों और प्रतिनिधि मंडल की हुई थी। चौधरी रूपाराम मान आंत फटने का सही इलाज नहीं होने के कारण आखिर वे शहीद हो गए।(उद्देश्य:पृ.22)

    सन्दर्भ : उद्देश्य:जाट कीर्ति संस्थान चूरू द्वारा आयोजित सर्व समाज बौधिक एवं प्रतिभा सम्मान समारोह चूरू, 9 जनवरी 2013,पृ. 30-36

    You may read more here: [Wiki]Rupa Ram Maan[/Wiki]
    Last edited by lrburdak; March 20th, 2013 at 05:16 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

  24. #176
    According to [Wiki]Hukum Singh Panwar[/Wiki] (Pauria), [Wiki]Sinsinwar[/Wiki] rulers of Bharatpur have originated from [Wiki]Tomar[/Wiki]. (See:[Wiki]The Jats:Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations/The origin of the Jat Sansanwal dynasry of Bharatpur[/Wiki], pp.101-104) Rest of the sources link them with Yaduvansha.
    Laxman Burdak

  25. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    According to Hukum Singh Panwar (Pauria), Sinsinwar rulers of Bharatpur have originated from Tomar. (See:The Jats:Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations/The origin of the Jat Sansanwal dynasry of Bharatpur, pp.101-104) Rest of the sources link them with Yaduvansha.
    Burdakji,

    Since you have read both the versions, kindly share your comments/views on the issue of the origin of the Sinsinwar royal dynasty of Bhaaratpur.

    Thanks.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  26. #178
    Dr Raj Pal Singh Ji I am fully convinced on Hukum Singh Panwar's views on Rejection of Theory of The Yadava origin of the Jats. He has provided very strong evidences. You can see here also in another Chapter fully devoted for this purpose - [Wiki]The Jats:Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations/The Yadava origin of the Jats[/Wiki]

    He also comments on Page-72 about your views in 'Rise of the Jat Power' authored by you:

    "Last, but certainly not least, Dr. Rajpal Singh also does not find any difficulty in accepting this claim "as genuine till some evidence to the contrary is produced to refute it", but at the same time he observes that it would be fallacious to conjecture all the Jat class to have descended from Yadu tribe".

    Regarding his theory linking with Tomar Jats, it is to be studied in details. Why not to link with Chauhan Federation which included maximum number of Jat clans at that time? Dholpur was a strong base of Chauhans founded by Dhawal (Dhaulya) Chauhan Jat.
    Laxman Burdak

  27. #179
    Lal Chand [Wiki]Bisu[/Wiki] - First Entrepreneur of IIT Jodhpur. Son of Rameshwar Lal and Sushila Devi from Village Bithathu in Laxmangarh, Sikar Rajasthan. He comes from a poor family. He passed VIII th class with ordinary numbers but was under pressure to get married so got 87% in 10th class to get scholarship. He was Selected in IIT 2008 with Electrical Engineer Branch. He has developed a website with least expenditure which guides youth in selecting proper career. [Dainik Bhaskar, Jodhpur, 17 April 2013]

    I found him the first notable person from ancient Rigvedic [Wiki]Bisu[/Wiki] Jat clan so shared it here with all !!!
    Laxman Burdak

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  29. #180
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    Dr Raj Pal Singh Ji I am fully convinced on Hukum Singh Panwar's views on Rejection of Theory of The Yadava origin of the Jats. He has provided very strong evidences. You can see here also in another Chapter fully devoted for this purpose - The Jats:Their Origin, Antiquity and Migrations/The Yadava origin of the Jats

    He also comments on Page-72 about your views in 'Rise of the Jat Power' authored by you:

    "Last, but certainly not least, Dr. Rajpal Singh also does not find any difficulty in accepting this claim "as genuine till some evidence to the contrary is produced to refute it", but ''at the same time he observes that it would be fallacious to conjecture all the Jat class to have descended from Yadu tribe".
    .....................
    Friend,

    You would appreciate that In 1988 when I did write the book, I had only recapitulated the existing literature in a few pages to introduce the topic of research regarding the emergence of the Jats during the 17th and 18th century as power to recon with in Indian politics under the leadership of Sinsinwars.

    Tracing the origin of Jats being an independent vast topic of research in itself, was not the part of universe of my thesis.

    Even giving my opinion on the origin of the Sinsinwars, I had kept the issue open for further research because of the fact that no conclusive evidence had come forth to prove the Yadu origin of the Sinsinwars of Bharatpur ruling dynasty.

    Since some path breaking research findings have been provided of late including one by Dr. Hukam Singh Pawar, it is hoped that further research work can fully do justice to the topic: Origin of the Jats.

    Thanks and regards
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