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Sure. Are you suggesting there is a link between place and the language one uses with their own friends?Originally Posted by Dagar25
Sure. Are you suggesting there is a link between place and the language one uses with their own friends?
Attention seekers and attention getters are two different class of people.
rajneeshantil (October 31st, 2011)
nahi jee........aap galt samjhe....mere kahn ka matlab yo tha ak Non-JAT tai kis tariya batlao ge ??
Maan lo aap Delhi Metro me safar kar rhe ho ar koi NON-JAT bhai/bhan ( Sahar ki Civil Society aale jo pat pat english bola karre) kuchh bujh sai aap tai yaa aapne kuchh bujhnaa pad jaa.....tai JAATU bologe yaa pher koi bhasa...
mai yo sawal saara tai bujhna chahu su......par sach jawab diyo.....eb pata laagega tam sach me apni boli bolan me shan samjho ya pher jaatland pai a kaho so....
this is really awkward dagar saheb, we feel proud while using our language jatvani among ourselves, among those who can understand and feel ease in replying us. aap to woh baat kar rahe ho ki bhes ke aage bin bajana. if a person cann't understand any language then what the use of using it. how can our SHAAN may enrich owing to it. yaar koi african, russian, japnese, or south indian (laga le) communicate in their language although they feel proud and ofcourse will bite with homesickness but other person remain a statue. ek baat aur delhi metro mein koi jat mile ar dusra jat apni language na kare to its shameful. mere bhai har tarah ke admio se alag tarah se baat hoti hai.
hamari JAATU bhasa ne bhot se non-JATTU samjh le sai............mera ishara en nai ki taraf thaa.....Ek jaat tai dusre tai JATTu me hi batlaw sai chahe delhi ho yaa kita aur..Es me to koi shak hi nahi hai.
vishalsunsunwal (November 1st, 2011)
Status is as good as you think. One should not be ashamed of it all. But in situation where one can't understand, it should be avoided. If one is ashamed of his\his identity than it is indeed a shame for the individual. Use it as as when you feel like you should. Be proud of it always.
-- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes.
-- When you talk, you are only repeating what you already know. But if you listen, you may learn something new.
vishalsunsunwal (November 1st, 2011)
It is not language or agriculture effect our status but our behaviour, our conduct, efficiency in profession, unity of the community and now in these days money, power and position do effect your place in the society. Jat will remain jat, our parents will remain parents, we must do good work, behave well develop good personal qualities, work hard, attain good positions, be strong and united community and donot bother about status, openions will change.
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i got ur point ajay bhai. in sonepat a girls college is situated adjoining to ____ basti. people of that basti although speaks haryanvi in a different accent but will remain SPECIAL in our society. ek bar wahan inter-state youth festival hua. i was there as an organiser. i called up my GF to come there. vo boli nahi aati wahan to JAAT aate hai ajeb se. i strongly rebuked her n told her har haryanvi bolne wala jat nahi hota. in villages other communities also used to speak haryanvi. uski baat samaj mein aai n she came there. secondly, i think we should see the FACE of a person which can tell us everything. kai to shakal te -------- lagte hai.
भाई जान मुद्दे की बात है communication। हम अपनी बात को कैसे अधिक से अधिक फैलाएं । यह मानना बिल्कुल ही गलत होगा कि जाटलैंड पै सिर्फ जाट ही विज़िट करते होगें और सिर्फ जाट ही मानलें तो क्या उत्तर भारत के ही जाट विजिट करते होंगे। हम हिन्दू जाटों की लिखने की भाषा देवनागरी लिपी है-पन्जाबी या बंगाली या कोई दक्षिण भारताय भाषा कि तरह अन्य लिपि तो है नहीं। इस सत्य से इंकार नही किया जा सकता कि काले अँग्रेजों की मेहरबानी से अँग्रेजी हम सब के जीवन में इस कदर व्याप्त हो चुकी है कि अब इसका इस्तेमाल अगर जाट करते हैं तो कोई बुराई नहीं। बस जरूरत इस बात की है कि हम जो भी भाषा प्रयोग करें वह सही हो, पठनीय हो और किसी का दिल न दुखाए।
एक और बात - क्या ठेठ हरियाणवी सब के पल्ले पड ज्यागी???
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एक और बात - क्या ठेठ हरियाणवी सब के पल्ले पड ज्यागी???[/quote]
जट्टू में ना ते हिंदी में ते लिख लेवें | जिन्न ताहीं आप अंग्रेजी में बताओ सो अक हामने म्हारी बोली प्यारी लागे स इह पे ते वे भी हांसेंगे अक जब आपस में ते पहलम बोल ल्यो |
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मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |
vishalsunsunwal (December 20th, 2011)
जट्टू में ना ते हिंदी में ते लिख लेवें | जिन्न ताहीं आप अंग्रेजी में बताओ सो अक हामने म्हारी बोली प्यारी लागे स इह पे ते वे भी हांसेंगे अक जब आपस में ते पहलम बोल ल्यो |[/QUOTE]
orra ka te bera ni........
mere jarur palle pad ja gi........ar mein te apne kai punjabi,sindi te bhi haryanvi mein bolla karu su........
anilsangwan (November 2nd, 2011), ravinderjeet (November 2nd, 2011)
I feel, on this forum most of us understand hindi, english and jatu/haryanvi/rajesthani/brij bhasa and as long as one is able to convey his/her point properly in any of the languages, there shouldnot be any problem to any one, the language used should be simple, convey the meaning, should be polite & respectful.
I agree. Just because one speaks/is more comfortable speaking english does not mean in anyway that he/she is any less Jat. Similarly, habitual Jaatu speakers cannot claim to be doing better as a Jat than non Jaatu/poor Jaatu speakers.
Attention seekers and attention getters are two different class of people.
The language is the ONLY tool to communicate.
The first important things is that in what language/dialect you can understand better.
The second important thing is that in what language/dialect you can convey your message to the mass in a BETTER way.
The third and most important thing is that in what language/dialect you can interact effectively with most of the people you meet.
Choice is yours !
It's better to be alone than in a bad company.
Hariom1972 (January 1st, 2012), kamnanadar (January 22nd, 2012), rajneeshantil (November 3rd, 2011)
[QUOTE=vijay;284700]The language is the ONLY tool to communicate.
The first important things is that in what language/dialect you can understand better.
The second important thing is that in what language/dialect you can convey your message to the mass in a BETTER way.
The third and most important thing is that in what language/dialect you can interact effectively with most of the people you meet.
I think you have highlighted the most important part of communication - it must be effective.
Attention seekers and attention getters are two different class of people.
Friends,
It is very interesting thread in which every participant has contributed in a nice way. Congrts.
I may say that the language or boli is a means of conveying and receiving ideas between the speaker and receptor. It has rightly been said that for effective communication one has to acquire communication skills but not attend oratory courses.
Differences appart, I agree with Brig Lakshman singh and would like to add one more point that individuals make community and their behaviour and attitude forms the openion of others about the community, most of us know that inspite of jats having all good qualities, just because of our little unpleasent behaviour we got a bad name, regards
Ye sab kehni ke bate hai ........ jo koi bhi JAT ko janta hai, wo uski boli ko or usko samjhta bhi hai .............. mere office ka security gard bhi morning main dekhte hi bolta hai Sir Ji ram ram ......... or mera reply hota hai ......... ke haal hai bhai?
Sirf batane ki zarurat hai ........
Kuch log hai jo naam kharab kara rahe hai ............
Mujhe to mere office main bhi haryanvi bolne me sharam nahi atti ...........
Ek baar ki baat hai ...... meeting thi CHD main Dr. Sarban Singh ke sath, finance commissioner - Haryana. Mera Naam (Dahiya) poochte hi bole ....... sab theek chal rya se bhai ....... or koi nyi tazi ......... i was surprised ki ek IAS banda Haryanvi bol raha hai ......... tab se moka milte hi main bhi bolta hoon.
Last edited by yogeshdahiya007; December 20th, 2011 at 03:36 PM.
spdeshwal (December 20th, 2011), vishalsunsunwal (December 20th, 2011)
Ram 2 Sabne,
No need to feel ashamed speak apni jat language with pride, every one in this world speaks their own language, to know some other language is secondary thing. Feel proud on yourself & apni jat language if ur true jat.
जाट के हाथ के नीचे ताज -९८९९६८६६६१
साफा बांध ले तुर्हे दार |
अचकन पहर ले धारी दार |
पजामा पहर ले चूड़ी दार |
जूती पहर ले तिल्ले दार |
तलवार टांग ले चमक दार |
मूछ राख ले घुंडी दार |
सही कही भाई फौज दार |
THIS FAUJDAR IS ALWAYS ON WAR COZ I AM SINSINWAR
में, ब्रिगेडिएर साहेब, कर्नल फ़तेह जी और विजय जी व् अन्य सदस्यों के विचारों से सहमत होते हुए कहना चाहूँगा कि, भाषा/ बोली से किसी व्यक्ति विशेष या समूह कि छवि
प्रभावित होना इस बात पर निर्भर नहीं करता कि हम कोनसी भाषा या बोली प्रयोग करते हैं बल्कि इस बात पर निर्भर करता है कि कैसे और कहाँ प्रयोग करते हैं!
हरयाणवी प्रयोग करने वाले अनेकों एसे व्यक्ति मिल जायेंगे, जो न केवल प्रभावी वक्ता होते हैं बल्कि मृदुभाषी भी होते हैं ! यह केवल एक भ्रान्ति है कि हरयाणवी एक अखड़ बोली है !
अनावश्यक रूप से उग्र व् अखड़ दिखने व् लगने का नजरिया व्यक्तिगत होता है ! हम जैसा सोचते हैं वैसा बोलते हैं ! निसंदेह, प्रतिक्रिया भी वैसी ही मिलेगी!
आचार्य चाणक्य के कुछ विचार आप सब से साँझा करने हेतु:
अपने विचारों को वश में रखो,
क्योंकि यही तुम्हारी वाणी बनेंगे !
अपनी वाणी को वश में रखो,
क्योंकि यही तुम्हारे कर्म बनेगी!
अपने कर्मो को वश में रखो,
क्योंकि यही तुम्हारी आदत बनेंगे !
अपनी आदतों को वश में रखो,
क्योंकि यही तुम्हारा चरित्र बनेंगी!
और अपने चरित्र को वश में रखो,
क्योकि इसीसे तुम्हारा भाग्य बनेगा!
--चाणक्य
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100% Right, Harek, Haryanvi Bolne aala Jat thodi, hai...
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