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    आब पानी से भी चलेगा कार का इंजन |

    यह खबर नव भारत टाइम्स अख़बार मैं ३० नवम्बर २०११ को छपी थी |
    मेरठ के एक इन्जिनिएर राजेंदर कुमार गुप्ता ने एक एसा उपकरण तैयार करने का दावा किया है जो की फ्यूल से नहीं पानी से चलता है |इस से सौ फीसदी तक ईंधन की बचत की जा सकती है और ये काफी किफायती भी है | गुप्ता जी ने इस अनोखे प्रयोग को "अक्वा अक्सी ए" नाम दिया है | इस के तहत उन्होंने ब्रावुन गैस थोरी पर आधारित एक उपकरण तयार किया है जो वाहन के इंजिन के पास फिट किया जाता है | इंजन चालू होने पर उपकरण चालू हो जाता है और इंजन बंद होने पर अपने आप बंद हो जाता है |
    इस उपकरण को द्पहिया वाहन मे लगाने का खर्च ६००० रुपे और चार पहिया वाहन मे लागने का खर्च १५००० रुपे आएगा |


    गुप्ता जी ने इसे पेटेंट करवा लिया है और उन का दावा है की ये पर्योग पेट्रोल और डीजल के वाहनों पर पूरी तरह सफल रहा है और ये पर्दूषण रहित है तथा सुरक्षित भी है |

    कृपा अपने विचार परगट करें |
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    bhai shaab kyun pani ko bhi aap 70 NRI/ L karwayo ho.......................Hahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by amankadian View Post
    bhai shaab kyun pani ko bhi aap 70 NRI/ L karwayo ho.......................Hahaha
    अमन भाई हाम न के रेल का भाप आला इंजन चलाना स जो दो चार हज़ार लीटर चाहियेगा | हा हा

    अर कितनाये महंगा हो लो पेट्रोल डीजल त त सस्ता ऐ रहेगा |

    धन्यवाद् सहित |
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    Wasie ................50-60 saal main inse bhi mehaga ho jayega .......ager asia kuch hua tho hahah

    Log ke sath sath Motors bhi paani piye gi naa

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    Quote Originally Posted by amankadian View Post
    Wasie ................50-60 saal main inse bhi mehaga ho jayega .......ager asia kuch hua tho hahah

    Log ke sath sath Motors bhi paani piye gi naa
    अमन भाई न्यू त कुछ न कुछ होत्ता ऐ रहेगा, पर कुदरत कद ताहीं बर्दाश्त करेगी |
    एक दिन कठाये इलाज भी कर देगी सबका | हा हा हा
    धन्यवाद् सहित |
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRana View Post
    अमन भाई न्यू त कुछ न कुछ होत्ता ऐ रहेगा, पर कुदरत कद ताहीं बर्दाश्त करेगी |
    एक दिन कठाये इलाज भी कर देगी सबका | हा हा हा
    धन्यवाद् सहित |
    ager aap bhai ji ek problem ko hal karoge..................Uske samne do or problem milti hai.

    Apne sahi kha Ham sirf Aaj ka hal nikal sakte hai .....Kal jo hoga uski Hal sochege

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    Quote Originally Posted by amankadian View Post
    ager aap bhai ji ek problem ko hal karoge..................Uske samne do or problem milti hai.

    Apne sahi kha Ham sirf Aaj ka hal nikal sakte hai .....Kal jo hoga uski Hal sochege
    अमन भाई पूरी तरह से सहमत |
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    Using water as a propelling fuel for motors is always a dream and I have also read numerous times such news that water will be used in place of petrol/diesel etc but there are never any actual implementations visible of such things. And as amankadian said - you solve one problem, it gives way to 2 new problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by catomar View Post
    Using water as a propelling fuel for motors is always a dream and I have also read numerous times such news that water will be used in place of petrol/diesel etc but there are never any actual implementations visible of such things. And as amankadian said - you solve one problem, it gives way to 2 new problem
    Dear Ajay Tomar,

    Its a new claim by an engineer based on Brown's Gas theory and he claims that it is cheaper, successful and safe during trials. Let us see how things turn up during actual implementation. Further I have already agreed to the point made by Aman bhai.

    With Thanks.
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_car

    A water-fuelled car is a hypothetical automobile that derives its energy directly from water. Water-fuelled cars have been the subject of numerous international patents, newspaper and popular science magazine articles, local television news coverage, and the Internet. The claims for these devices have been found to be incorrect and some were found to be tied to investment frauds

    The process of electrolysis, discussed below, would split water into hydrogen and oxygen, but it takes as much energy to take apart a water molecule as was released when the hydrogen was oxidized to form water. In fact, some energy would be lost in converting water to hydrogen and then burning the hydrogen because some heat would always be produced in the conversions. Releasing chemical energy from water, in excess or in equal proportion to the energy required to facilitate such production, would therefore violate the first and/or second laws of thermodynamics.[

    Charles H. Garrett allegedly demonstrated a water-fuelled car "for several minutes", which was reported on September 8, 1935, in The Dallas Morning News.[9] The car generated hydrogen by electrolysis as can be seen by examining Garrett's patent, issued that same year.[

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
    Fringe science and fraud
    Oxyhydrogen is sometimes referred to as "Brown's Gas" after Yull Brown who advocated such devices,[12] or "HHO gas" after the claims of fringe physicist[13] Ruggero Santilli.
    Oxyhydrogen is also often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to operate a vehicle using water as a fuel. The most common and decisive counter-argument against producing this gas on-board to use as a fuel or fuel additive is that the energy required to split water molecules exceeds the energy recouped by burning it.[14]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kapdal View Post
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water-fuelled_carA water-fuelled car is a hypothetical automobile that derives its energy directly from water. Water-fuelled cars have been the subject of numerous international patents, newspaper and popular science magazine articles, local television news coverage, and the Internet. The claims for these devices have been found to be incorrect and some were found to be tied to investment fraudsThe process of electrolysis, discussed below, would split water into hydrogen and oxygen, but it takes as much energy to take apart a water molecule as was released when the hydrogen was oxidized to form water. In fact, some energy would be lost in converting water to hydrogen and then burning the hydrogen because some heat would always be produced in the conversions. Releasing chemical energy from water, in excess or in equal proportion to the energy required to facilitate such production, would therefore violate the first and/or second laws of thermodynamics.[Charles H. Garrett allegedly demonstrated a water-fuelled car "for several minutes", which was reported on September 8, 1935, in The Dallas Morning News.[9] The car generated hydrogen by electrolysis as can be seen by examining Garrett's patent, issued that same year.[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OxyhydrogenFringe science and fraud Oxyhydrogen is sometimes referred to as "Brown's Gas" after Yull Brown who advocated such devices,[12] or "HHO gas" after the claims of fringe physicist[13] Ruggero Santilli.Oxyhydrogen is also often mentioned in conjunction with devices that claim to operate a vehicle using water as a fuel. The most common and decisive counter-argument against producing this gas on-board to use as a fuel or fuel additive is that the energy required to split water molecules exceeds the energy recouped by burning it.[14]
    Kapil bhai the present claim also may be one of the investment frauds.Anyway thanks for the link.
    Last edited by JSRana; December 2nd, 2011 at 03:00 PM.
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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  21. #12
    shi h........... pani b 70/ho jayega jaldi hi.........ese to chod do reeeeeeeeee
    ride safe>>>>
    Thanks & Regards,

    Anil Jakhar
    jakhar.anilk@gmail.com
    +91 93143 91300
    Birodi badi \ Nawal garh, Fatehpur Shekhawati, Rajasthan, India


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    Quote Originally Posted by jakharanil View Post
    shi h........... pani b 70/ho jayega jaldi hi.........ese to chod do reeeeeeeeee
    ride safe>>>>
    Bhai petrol bhi to sasta ho jaga! Jab khapat kam ho jagi to rate apne aap niche pad jaange petrol ke!
    A350Xwb - Shaping Efficiency!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jakharanil View Post
    shi h........... pani b 70/ho jayega jaldi hi.........ese to chod do reeeeeeeeee
    ride safe>>>>
    Bhai shaab aapki ride ne to doop ne chalne wali banwa dege

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    solution is wid you only

    Only conservation and limited use of exhaustible substance can bring down d prices specially for Petrol diesel or whtever fuel is.

    some simple suggestions are :

    >Dnt use vehicle in local small distance move outs
    instead of dis burn out sum extra calories by walking or cycling,it ll keep u fit.

    >Make a chain pool in yr area/city for people moving to common place,it ll save yr fuel n u hv a social interaction also.

    >Use public transport where ever n whenever possible.

    IF U WANT TO GIVE SUMTHING TO OTHERS
    GIVE THE SMILE N RESPECT.
    REMEMBER ITS EASY TO BREAK ANYTHING BUT REVERSE IS NOT TRUE.
    ENJOY THE HUMAN SPIRIT.

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    Only conservation and limited use of exhaustible substance can bring down d prices specially for Petrol diesel or whtever fuel is.

    some simple suggestions are :

    >Dnt use vehicle in local small distance move outs
    instead of dis burn out sum extra calories by walking or cycling,it ll keep u fit.

    >Make a chain pool in yr area/city for people moving to common place,it ll save yr fuel n u hv a social interaction also.

    >Use public transport where ever n whenever possible.

    IF U WANT TO GIVE SUMTHING TO OTHERS
    GIVE THE SMILE N RESPECT.
    REMEMBER ITS EASY TO BREAK ANYTHING BUT REVERSE IS NOT TRUE.
    ENJOY THE HUMAN SPIRIT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRana View Post
    कृपा अपने विचार परगट करें |
    ये घस्से हैं राणाजी | काल ने नु कह्वेंगे अक पाद मार के Cylinder भरेंगे | जब होवेगा जब मानांगे |

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    Quote Originally Posted by JSRana View Post
    यह खबर नव भारत टाइम्स अख़बार मैं ३० नवम्बर २०११ को छपी थी |
    मेरठ के एक इन्जिनिएर राजेंदर कुमार गुप्ता ने एक एसा उपकरण तैयार करने का दावा किया है जो की फ्यूल से नहीं पानी से चलता है |इस से सौ फीसदी तक ईंधन की बचत की जा सकती है और ये काफी किफायती भी है | गुप्ता जी ने इस अनोखे प्रयोग को "अक्वा अक्सी ए" नाम दिया है | इस के तहत उन्होंने ब्रावुन गैस थोरी पर आधारित एक उपकरण तयार किया है जो वाहन के इंजिन के पास फिट किया जाता है | इंजन चालू होने पर उपकरण चालू हो जाता है और इंजन बंद होने पर अपने आप बंद हो जाता है |
    इस उपकरण को द्पहिया वाहन मे लगाने का खर्च ६००० रुपे और चार पहिया वाहन मे लागने का खर्च १५००० रुपे आएगा |


    गुप्ता जी ने इसे पेटेंट करवा लिया है और उन का दावा है की ये पर्योग पेट्रोल और डीजल के वाहनों पर पूरी तरह सफल रहा है और ये पर्दूषण रहित है तथा सुरक्षित भी है |

    कृपा अपने विचार परगट करें |

    If the claim is true (success of water as fuel) - which I doubt - it is indeed a big story. As far as I know, people in MIT have found a way to split water into its components for the purpose of using it as fuel. Ratan Tata is funding further research to use these split components for running cars.

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...ater-soon.html
    Attention seekers and attention getters are two different class of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmiladuhan View Post
    If the claim is true (success of water as fuel) - which I doubt - it is indeed a big story. As far as I know, people in MIT have found a way to split water into its components for the purpose of using it as fuel. Ratan Tata is funding further research to use these split components for running cars.

    http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...ater-soon.html
    Urmila Ji the present claimer also advocates the same theory( Splitting water into Oxygen
    and Hydrogen molecules or Brown's Gas Theory ) but the most common and decisive counter-argument against producing this gas on-board to use as a fuel or fuel additive is that the energy required to split water molecules exceeds the energy produced and hence the efficiency is low.

    Further when Mr Ratan Tata is involved in the project we can certainly hope to hear some positive results soon.

    With Thanks.
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by VPannu View Post
    ये घस्से हैं राणाजी | काल ने नु कह्वेंगे अक पाद मार के Cylinder भरेंगे | जब होवेगा जब मानांगे |
    ठीक कह रहे हो भाई विवेक पर धूमा उठरया स त कुछ आंच भी होगी |
    Remember, we all stumble, every one of us.
    That's why it's a comfort to go hand in hand.
    :D

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