Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst 1 2 3 4 5
Results 81 to 100 of 100

Thread: Scythian (Skythian) : Etymology

  1. #81

    BBC NEWS | Europe | Scythian mummy shown in Germany

    >> BBC NEWS | Europe | Scythian mummy shown in Germany
    : http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...own-in-Germany <<

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Moar For This Useful Post:

    DrRajpalSingh (October 4th, 2012)

  3. #82
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    >> BBC NEWS | Europe | Scythian mummy shown in Germany
    : http://www.jatland.com/forums/showth...own-in-Germany <<
    Friend you have posted it in the beginning of the thread as post 1 of your previous thread entitled BBC NEWS | Europe | Scythian mummy shown in Germany and presently you better know why it has been repeated at Sr 81 of the thread under reference.

    Moreover, it would be good if you could throw some light on the basis of this information on history of Jats.

    Thanks
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; October 4th, 2012 at 09:58 PM.

  4. #83

    @ Dr. Rajpal Singh Janghu

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Friend you have posted it in the beginning of the thread as post 1 of your previous thread entitled BBC NEWS | Europe | Scythian mummy shown in Germany and presently you better know why it has been repeated at Sr 81 of the thread under reference.

    Moreover, it would be good if you could throw some light on the basis of this information on history of Jats.

    Thanks
    Dear Sir, I AM afraid that You have mistakenly missed-out that I have only provided the link to the respective thread here, so that when researchers interested in the Jat History throughout the globe come across this WebSite & more specifically this very Thread, We should make sure that We share with them more & more scrutinized information over the subject !! And, I believe that by sharing the link to that Thread, I AM doing so !!



    Note : This WebSite is the "digitized version" of Jat History !!

    ---------------------

    In answer to Your query, "it would be good if you could throw some light on the basis of this information on history of Jats", I request You to read Article 'Scythians' on Jatland Wiki.

    Thanks !!
    Last edited by Moar; October 5th, 2012 at 03:20 PM.

  5. #84
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    Dear Sir, I AM afraid that You have mistakenly missed-out that I have only provided the link to the respective thread here, so that when researchers interested in the Jat History throughout the globe come across this WebSite & more specifically this very Thread, We should make sure that We share with them more & more scrutinized information over the subject !! And, I believe that by sharing the link to that Thread, I AM doing so !!



    Note : This WebSite is the "digitized version" of Jat History !!

    ---------------------

    In answer to Your query, "it would be good if you could throw some light on the basis of this information on history of Jats", I request You to read Article 'Scythians' on Jatland Wiki.

    Thanks !!

    Okay Moar Sahib!!!

  6. #85

    The Scythians | The Circle of Ancient Iranian Students

    The Scythians | The Circle of Ancient Iranian Students : http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Anthro...troduction.htm

  7. #86

    Scythian-Style Bows Discovered in XINJIANG - by Bede Dwyer

    Scythian-Style Bows Discovered in XINJIANG - by Bede Dwyer : http://www.atarn.org/chinese/scythian_bows.htm

  8. #87

    Chinese villagers descended from Scythians - Lanzhou University (source)

    Chinese villagers descended from Scythians - Lanzhou University (source) : http://www.fravahr.org/spip.php?breve1081

  9. #88

    The Press : Tracking the Scythians - TIME Magazine

    The Press : Tracking the Scythians - TIME Magazine : http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...877638,00.html
    Last edited by Moar; October 6th, 2012 at 02:45 PM.

  10. The Following User Says Thank You to Moar For This Useful Post:

    DrRajpalSingh (October 23rd, 2012)

  11. #89

    Scythians had political control over Ancient India as far back as 5th century B.C.

    Herodotus reveals that the Scythians as far back as the 5th century B.C. had political control over Central Asia and the northern subcontinent up to the river Ganges. Later Indo-Scythic clans and dynasties (e.g. Mauryas, Rajputs) extended their control to other tracts of the northern subcontinent. The largest Saka imperial dynasties of Sakasthan include the Satraps (204 BC to 78 AD), Kushanas (50 AD - 380), Virkas (420 AD - 640) while others like the Mauryas (324 - 232 BC) and Dharan-Guptas (320 AD - 515) expanded their empires towards the east.



    Reference : Origin of the Saka Races - Collapse of the Brahminist Empire (Chapter 3) | by Khshatrapa Gandasa

  12. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Moar For This Useful Post:

    DrRajpalSingh (October 23rd, 2012), ravinderjeet (October 22nd, 2012)

  13. #90
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    The Press : Tracking the Scythians - TIME Magazine : http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...877638,00.html
    कोणी खुल्दा यु लिंक |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
    हक़ मांगने से नहीं मिलता , छिना जाता हे |
    अहिंसा कमजोरों का हथियार हे |
    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
    मौत नु आंगालियाँ पे नचांदे , ते आपां जाट कुहांदे |

  14. The Following User Says Thank You to ravinderjeet For This Useful Post:

    DrRajpalSingh (October 23rd, 2012)

  15. #91
    Quote Originally Posted by ravinderjeet View Post
    कोणी खुल्दा यु लिंक |
    Friend,
    Yah link kulta to hai lekin puri article kewal Time Magazine ke subscribers ke liya khulti hai ya payment karke down load ki ja sakti hai.

    Isme Ukrain ke ek nagar mein 'unlooted royal tomb of the fabled Scythian tribesmen' ke bare mein jankari dee gayi lagati hai jo Russian Archeaologist kee research par adharit hai.

    Thanks

  16. #92
    [QUOTE=Moar;321297]Scythian-Style Bows Discovered in XINJIANG - by Bede Dwyer :/QUOTE]
    Hardeep ji
    very intrestig article.if composite bows were used by scythians where are they today.many historians relates jats and rajputs decendends of scytians.Any one can shed light on composite bow used by jats or rajputs in battel.It was kept very secrect how composite bows were made in those days.It was mainly designed for horse archers who can shoot from horse back and short bows were needed at the same power as genrated from long bow and even more.There is a term called parthian shot.arrows which were shot back while retriving from horse back.looking for commentts from senior members thanks
    Last edited by agodara; January 4th, 2014 at 10:37 PM.

  17. #93
    Good elaboration of short arrows !
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

  18. #94
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Good elaboration of short arrows !

    We have talked so much about our common ancestors. We are all somehow related by clanish identity as most Jat clans have intermarried for hundreds of years and that is one of the reasons that we try not to marry in our closest clans.

    The main question at this point is:

    During the migration/wars/famines and other hard periods lot of such clans migrated to isolated places in the country and many of them are still leading a nomadic way of life. Many of such Jat clans might not be even aware of the their Jat identity.

    What are "Jat organizations" doing for their settlement and continuation of clan attachment to close knit Jat clans already established in villages doing sustained agriculture.
    I think there is a need to integrated these still nomadic and often deprived and isolated Jat clans and this can only be done through proper resources.

    I have seen in old times, often people with resources used to open schools, hostels and other facilities for children. They also used to integrate them into village communities through marriages and work.
    Last edited by maddhan1979; March 25th, 2014 at 07:44 PM.

  19. The Following User Says Thank You to maddhan1979 For This Useful Post:

    lrburdak (March 26th, 2014)

  20. #95
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    We are in a process to Wikify book by H. W. Bellew titled - An Inquiry Into the Ethnography of Afghanistan/Page 26-50 which will be of great help in understanding Jat clans.

    I quote from this book page-36:

    Strabo says,

    "Most of the Scythians, beginning from the Hyrkanian Sea, are called Dahai Skuthai, and those more to the east Massagetai and Sakai; the rest have the common appellation of Skythians, but each separate tribe has its peculiar name. The best known tribes are those who deprived the Greeks of Baktriana, the Arioi, Pasianoi, Tokharoi, and Sakarauloi, who came from the country beyond the Jaxartes, opposite the Sakai and Sogdianoi, and which country was also occupied by Sakai. Some tribes of the Dahai are surnamed Aparnoi, some Xanthioi, others Pissuroi. The Aparnoi approach nearest to Hyrkania and the Caspian Sea ; the others extend as far as the country opposite to Aria."

    Recently an Amerikan soldier was released in Afghanistan.

    His name is "Bowe Bergdahl" so his family name is "Bergdahl".


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowe_Bergdahl

    or

    Bergdahl = Berg + Dahl,

    "Berg" is a word of Germanic origin : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berg_(surname)

    "Dahl" becomes the tribe of "Bowie Bergdahl"

    The Jat family name "Dahiya" is also derived from the same root word "Dahl or Dahae" depending on the pronunciation.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahae
    Last edited by maddhan1979; June 6th, 2014 at 07:42 AM.

  21. #96
    Dahal (डहल) Jat clan is found in Multan. See - [wiki]A glossary of the Tribes and Castes of the Punjab and North-West Frontier Province By H.A. Rose Vol II/D[/wiki], p.219

    Berg- (German, Swedish, Danish, Norwegian) means "mountain", "hill"

    Dahl-, Dal- (Swedish, Danish, Norwegian) means "valley"
    Last edited by lrburdak; June 5th, 2014 at 10:41 PM.
    Laxman Burdak

  22. #97
    सामूहिक विवाह व्यवस्था

    [wiki]File:Samuhik Vivah Dhar.jpg[/wiki]

    जाट समाज की सम्पन्नता और इसके आर्थिक उत्थान तथा विवाह पर खर्चे के नियंत्रण के उद्देश्य से जाट समाज धार के सक्रीय कार्यकर्ताओं द्वारा प्रतिवर्ष आखातीज के अवसर पर सामूहिक विवाह आयोजित किये जाते हैं.

    इसका आयोजन वीर तेजाजी सामूहिक विवाह समिति धार द्वारा किया जाता है. मोतीलाल जी झिंझवाडिया निवासी सलकनपुर धार इस कार्य हेतु विगत अनेक वर्षों से दान देकर इसे सफल बना रहे हैं.

    सामूहिक विवाह व्यवस्था मध्य प्रदेश के धार, देवास, खंडवा, होशंगाबाद, हरदा, इंदौर आदि जिलों में प्रचलित है जहाँ काफी संख्या में जाट रहते हैं. यहाँ धनवान जाटों ने स्कूल, छात्रावास भवन बनाये हैं. आपके प्रश्न का उत्तर इसमें मिल जाता है.

    Quote Originally Posted by maddhan1979 View Post
    We have talked so much about our common ancestors. We are all somehow related by clanish identity as most Jat clans have intermarried for hundreds of years and that is one of the reasons that we try not to marry in our closest clans.

    The main question at this point is:

    During the migration/wars/famines and other hard periods lot of such clans migrated to isolated places in the country and many of them are still leading a nomadic way of life. Many of such Jat clans might not be even aware of the their Jat identity.

    What are "Jat organizations" doing for their settlement and continuation of clan attachment to close knit Jat clans already established in villages doing sustained agriculture.
    I think there is a need to integrated these still nomadic and often deprived and isolated Jat clans and this can only be done through proper resources.

    I have seen in old times, often people with resources used to open schools, hostels and other facilities for children. They also used to integrate them into village communities through marriages and work.
    Last edited by lrburdak; June 6th, 2014 at 11:32 AM.
    Laxman Burdak

  23. #98
    one more intersting link i found on web
    http://www.openthemagazine.com/artic...-of-the-aryans
    dont shoot the messenger
    Last edited by agodara; June 8th, 2014 at 12:48 AM.

  24. #99
    Quote Originally Posted by lrburdak View Post
    सामूहिक विवाह व्यवस्था

    File:Samuhik Vivah Dhar.jpg

    जाट समाज की सम्पन्नता और इसके आर्थिक उत्थान तथा विवाह पर खर्चे के नियंत्रण के उद्देश्य से जाट समाज धार के सक्रीय कार्यकर्ताओं द्वारा प्रतिवर्ष आखातीज के अवसर पर सामूहिक विवाह आयोजित किये जाते हैं.

    इसका आयोजन वीर तेजाजी सामूहिक विवाह समिति धार द्वारा किया जाता है. मोतीलाल जी झिंझवाडिया निवासी सलकनपुर धार इस कार्य हेतु विगत अनेक वर्षों से दान देकर इसे सफल बना रहे हैं.

    सामूहिक विवाह व्यवस्था मध्य प्रदेश के धार, देवास, खंडवा, होशंगाबाद, हरदा, इंदौर आदि जिलों में प्रचलित है जहाँ काफी संख्या में जाट रहते हैं. यहाँ धनवान जाटों ने स्कूल, छात्रावास भवन बनाये हैं. आपके प्रश्न का उत्तर इसमें मिल जाता है.

    These kind of processes must be propagated in city areas as well, where first generation educated, lower income group, first generation city movers, etc.'s children find themselves lost in the crowd of big ever expanding cities and many times, they get trapped by wrong society and people of their age.

  25. The Following User Says Thank You to maddhan1979 For This Useful Post:

    lrburdak (June 12th, 2014)

  26. #100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moar View Post
    >>


    http://www.livius.org/sao-sd/scythians/scythians.html
    suggests:


    "The first to describe the life style of these tribes was a Greek researcher, Herodotus, who lived in the fifth century BCE. Although he concentrates on the tribes living in modern Ukraine, which he calls Scythians, we may extrapolate his description to people in Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan and possibly Mongolia, even though Herodotus usually calls these eastern nomads 'Sacae'. In fact, just as the Scythians and the Sacae shared the same life style, they had the same name: in their own language, which belonged to the Indo-Iranian family, they called themselves Skudat ('archers'?). The Persians rendered this name as Sakâ and the Greeks as Skythai. The Chinese called them, at a later stage in history, Sai.


    <<




    See also:


    (1) Scythians : http://www.jatland.com/home/Scythians

    (2) Indo-Scythians : http://www.jatland.com/home/Indo-Scythians
    at family name "Bana", is one example of "they called themselves Skudat ('archers'?)", "Bana" should not be confused with "Ban/Van". These are two very different words.

    "Bana" spoken in true IndoEuropean language which uses "Tu" for "You", such as the one spoken in border states of India and Pakistan means "Arrow"

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •