Persians rendered the name (Scythians') as Sakâ ! Persian S -> H, is a false notion !

[Moar]

Dear Friends,


It is a globally known fact that the Persians called the " Scythians ", " Sakā " ( Sakai ) [ who were later known as " Śāka " in India ]; and almost all of the Scythologists and Iranologists throughout the globe agree with this established research-work.


One reference, for the scholars in making : Scythians in the Ancient World ( http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/a...9Scythians.htm ) by N. S. Gill (N. S. Gill has a B. A. in Latin and an M. A. in linguistics at the University of Minnesota. She has TA'd classes in the Age of Pericles, technical terms, Classical culture and mythology.).


And, how is it possible that the Persians were successfully able to spell " Sakâ ", but failed to spell " Sindhu " ?!


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Sincerely !!

[lrburdak]

If S is silent then Saka becomes Aka. [Wiki]Aka[/Wiki] itself is a Jat clan.

[Moar]

If S is silent then Saka becomes Aka. Aka itself is a Jat clan.

Dear Respected Sir, the "S" was not silent !!


The origin and meaning of the word "Hindu" has now become a subject of intense research and immense scrutiny !!


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[lrburdak]

Shindu = Hindu when S is silent

[Moar]

Shindu = Hindu when S is silent

Dear Respected Sir, please note that the name of the region was "SINDHU" ( सिन्धु ) and not "Shindu" ( शिन्दु ) . It is a globally accepted FACT by the scholars throughout the globe, and that includes scholars from India as well.


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Dear Respected Sir, as far as the Persians are concerned, the "S" was definitely not silent !!


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"Some sources report that it was Alexander who first renamed the River Sindhu as the Indu, dropping the beginning “S”, thus making it easier for the Greeks to pronounce. This became known as the Indus. His Macedonian forces thereafter called the land east of the Indus as India, a name used especially during the British regime." (Source: SikhiWiki)

[dndeswal]

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It is true that "SINDHU" ( सिन्धु ) is a Sanskrit word. So far as word "Hindu" is concerned, the letter H becomes silent in many languages. For example, Spanish people pronounce the word as "Indu" (even though they spell as "Hindu"). The spelling of word (in Spanish) is "Hospital" but in pronunciation, H becomes silent. The same is case with French.


The fact is that the BOTH the words "Hindu" and "India" have foreign origin. The word "Hindu" is neither a Sanskrit word nor is this word found in any of the native dialects and languages of India. There is no reference of the word "hindu" in the Ancient Vedic Scriptures.


It is said that the Persians used to refer to the Indus river as Sindhu. However, the Persians could not pronounce the letter "S" correctly in their native tongue and mispronounced it as "H." Thus, for the ancient Persians, the word "Sindhu" became "Hindu." In fact, in pronunciation, the rural people of Persia (Iran) utter it as "Indu" (same as in the case of Spanish). The ancient Persian Cuneiform inscriptions and the Zend Avesta refer to the word "Hindu" as a geographic name rather than a religious name. When the Persian King Darious 1 extended his empire up to the borders of the Indian subcontinent in 517 BC, some people of the Indian subcontinent became part of his empire and army. Thus for a very long time the ancient Persians referred to Indian people as "Hindus". The ancient Greeks and Armenians followed the same pronunciation, and thus, gradually the name stuck.


Moreover, the ancient Greeks also used to mispronounce the river Sindhu as Indos. When Alexander invaded India, the Macedonian army referred to the river as Indus and the land east of the river as India. The Greek writers who wrote about Alexander preferred to use the same name.


For the Arabs, the land became Al-Hind. The Muslim rulers and travelers who came to India during the medieval periods referred the Indian subcontinent as "Hindustan" and the people who lived there as Hindus.


Thus, if we go by the original definition of the word Hindu, any person living in the land beyond the river Indus is a Hindu, whatever religion he or she practices.

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[ravichaudhary]

Dear Friends,


It is a globally known fact that the Persians called the " Scythians ", " Sakā " ( Sakai ) [ who were later known as " Śāka " in India ]; and almost all of the Scythologists and Iranologists throughout the globe agree with this established research-work.


One reference, for the scholars in making : Scythians in the Ancient World ( http://ancienthistory.about.com/od/a...9Scythians.htm ) by N. S. Gill (N. S. Gill has a B. A. in Latin and an M. A. in linguistics at the University of Minnesota. She has TA'd classes in the Age of Pericles, technical terms, Classical culture and mythology.).


And, how is it possible that the Persians were successfully able to spell " Sakâ ", but failed to spell " Sindhu " ?!


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Sincerely !!

Without a knowledge of the ancient indian languages, Pali/Prakrit/ Sanskrit, a researcher is severely handicapped or disabled.

Ms Gill , despite her considerable achievments in studying and achieving a degree in linguistics- Latin etc is no exception.

Her work will end up showing a bias to Latin/Greek sources.

Should she, and I hope she does, increase her repetoire of languages, we may well have an exceptional Jat researcher wih us.

Wish her good luck

Ravi Chaudhary

[Moar]

Dear Sir,


At-least, one thing that has emerged very much clear here is — — the Persians were definitely able to spell the phonetic sound of letter (alphabet), " S " !!


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It is a false notion that the Persians were not able to spell the phonetic sound of letter (alphabet), " S " !!

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Sincerely !!