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    केजरीवाल एंड पार्टी

    आजकल अरविंद केजरीवाल मीडिया का केंद्र बना हुआ है और सभी राजनैतिक पार्टियों की धज्जियाँ उड़ा रहा। केजरीवाल 26 नवम्बर को अपनी पार्टी की घोषणा करने वाला है क्या केजरीवाल सच में देश का भला कर सकता है ? आप सभी भाई अपने सुझाव अवश्य दे
    :boxing

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    Bhai in choron kee pol khol raha hai ye bhee desh ka bhala hee hai......Hats off to Those who are going to do something good for this country.....Ye Congressing to is desh ka Bhatta baitha key maangey or baakee ke party inkey pichhey hain.......
    WORD IMPOSSIBLE SAYS I M POSSIBLE.

    Apologising dosent mean that U are wrong & the other is right.....It only means that U value the relationship much more than ur ego.

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    Bhai ye kya ho raha hain yeh to aana samay hi batayega ki yeh aane wale tufaan ki aahat thi ya fir dubte hue suraj ki tej kirnen.... lekin bade gharanon ka black money to bahot hain hsbc arr swiss jaisi bankon me aur unke namon ka khulasha karke inhone bahot achcha kaam kiya hain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikram.dahiya View Post
    क्या केजरीवाल सच में देश का भला कर सकता है ? आप सभी भाई अपने सुझाव अवश्य दे
    Kezriwal and Team Anna have done good things like bringing awareness about corruption, raising voice against corruption etc but I do not agree with their solution. Corruption problem cannot be solved by bringing draconian laws. It can be solved by bringing efficient system in place. Other thing to consider is hidden corruption. Hidden corruption due to policy paralysis, wrong decison making, ineffective system is so much that cannot even imagined! Arvind Kezriwal Lokpal bill does not bring those measures into the system. Janlokpal is flawed system. Janlokpal can also contribute to policy paralysis as it creates a fear into bureaucrats! Janlokpal could be be a disaster, if it ever implemented without reforming current system!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikram.dahiya View Post
    आजकल अरविंद केजरीवाल मीडिया का केंद्र बना हुआ है और सभी राजनैतिक पार्टियों की धज्जियाँ उड़ा रहा। केजरीवाल 26 नवम्बर को अपनी पार्टी की घोषणा करने वाला है क्या केजरीवाल सच में देश का भला कर सकता है ? आप सभी भाई अपने सुझाव अवश्य दे
    Its tough to say what he will do. Many are suspecting his motives also because practically, it doesn't make sense to launch a political party against two national parties without having a proper organization. Either he is too ideal or fooling the people. I am not sure what he is. The biggest flawed is that he considers media as his friend while truth is that it is very much part of corrupt system. It's no longer a corporate-political axis only. But, it's a corporate, political and media specially English speaking electronic media nexus.

    Right now, he must be admired to take on the reliance which looks almost invincible irrespective of which party comes into power. Kejriwal surely brought some fresh air and hope, something positive will happen irrespective of the fate of its political outfit.
    Last edited by bazardparveen; November 11th, 2012 at 10:23 AM.

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    Support Arvind & Team

    Arvind Kejriwal & team will make the difference in current political system for sure. He is energetic, honest & good team organiser but has less experience in politics (May not know how to fetch votes like our
    most of the politicians are doing now a days).

    As per my obervation, In starting phase his party will flourish in urban areas only(but they say they are getting good response from villages also) later they can expand their base to rural, which will take time. Please note that BJP also won 2 seats initialy & later expanded itself by RAM MANDIR issue.

    At present Electronic media is supporting him because the media also want TRP & they run 24x7 mode so they also looks for material to show something for 24 hours.As we know all the media houses are companies (they have shares & wants to grow like all other businesses) so they keep balance between TRP & business.Media can stop showing Arvind any time if there is any news which can get more TRP
    than Arvind's press conferences. So we cannot say that media is "Meharbaan" on arvind.

    We all should support his cause (Vyvastha parivartan) irrespective of our political inclinations & should give the chance.
    Last edited by ranveer; November 11th, 2012 at 12:06 PM. Reason: Contents not allinged & title not used

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    Kejriwal used donations to his pcrf foundation, which were meant for rti work, to launch anna andolan. He then used the money raised by the anna andolan, which was for lokpal movement, to launch his political party, which anna was explicitly against. He is the wrong rolemodel for accountability.

    (Written by a ET journo in reply to a thread on FB)
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

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    Let us stop shooting the messenger!

    Congress kee toh daal hee kali hae aur BJP kee daal mein kucch kala hae. So anyday, BJP is a better choice out of the two.

    Kejriwal is doing the best service that any Indian can do for the nation by bringing out into the public domain the misdeeds of these rascals.

    I wish all the best to Arvind in his endeavour and hope that he continues with the good work IRRESPECTIVE OF THE UNNECESSARY, FALSE AND FRIVOLOUS CRITICISM directed towards him by some who are equally disturbed and discomforted by the expose's like their political masters.

    If not at the national level, Arvind should at least get electoral victory in Delhi to start with so that he can show Delhi state as a role model for the other states as well as the nation in terms of governance.
    Last edited by AbhikRana; November 11th, 2012 at 10:24 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbhikRana View Post
    Let us stop shooting the messenger!

    If not at the national level, Arvind should at least get electoral victory in Delhi to start with so that he can show Delhi state as a role model for the other states as well as the nation in terms of governance.
    The messenger is a player now, no more a messenger and when you are in the game you are expected to be shot.

    Delhi victory is a distant dream, I bet he will not even be able deposit in majority of the seats.
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

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    I am not sure if you intend to say that a player cannot be messenger or vice versa. But whatever, he is a harbinger of the change that the Mango man has long been yearning for.

    Whether his deposit is forfeited or not, only time will tell.

    All I can say to Arvind is Godspeed!!!


    Quote Originally Posted by desijat View Post
    The messenger is a player now, no more a messenger and when you are in the game you are expected to be shot.

    Delhi victory is a distant dream, I bet he will not even be able deposit in majority of the seats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbhikRana View Post
    All I can say to Arvind is Godspeed!!!
    The day Kejriwal comes to power and implements his policies, most of us sitting online in India would have lost our jobs. You cant run a country by giving power back to people or cheasing off all the businessman.
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

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    There is no nitpicking here. JanLokpal is highly flawed and could create big problems if ever implemented. We should not get swayed by emotions! Law of economics never bend!

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    दहिया भाई , केजरीवाल पे इतना तो भरोसा है की अगर भला नहीं कर सकता तो कम से कम बुरा तो बिलकुल नहीं करेगा। RTI has been used extensively by general public ever since it was introduced. This has certainly brought more transparency to the system. As already said above, people have become more aware now. I admire him for taking the bull by the horns. He is, in fact, hitting where it hurts most. I admire his (and of course everyone who is fighting for the good cause) fortitude.Hail Kejriwal and all others who are fighting against corruption !! God bless them.

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    http://www.business-standard.com/ind...l-club/490888/

    It’s not just Arvind Kejriwal whose spirit is ablaze with the need to change it all. There are many Kejriwals working quietly for a change in the political infrastructure of this country. Most of them admire him — though they may differ with him on policy issues.


    Jai Prakash Narayan started the Lok Satta party with the same intent, much before Kejriwal arrived on the scene. He has managed to win one seat in the Andhra Assembly elections so far.Others have followed his footsteps. There is the Jago Party, which was launched in 2007 and is active in Rajasthan. Its Facebook page has 250,000 supporters – all from Rajasthan – while it has set up working committees in 22 of the 32 districts in the state. Its founder Deepak Mittal, who is a businessman from Haryana, says he believes India is poor and backward due to wrong policies and corruption. “I wanted to do something and hence, I started the party,” he says.
    Mittal supports Kejriwal and has been in touch with him for the last five years. However, he finds Kejriwal Left-leaning and differs with him on economic matters. For instance, Mittal sees cash transfers and privatisation of all services as means to end corruption. He also favours foreign investments in retail and more industrialisation — things which would endear him to the present dispensation. He believes the government should spend about Rs 4 lakh crore annually and pay cash subsidies of at least Rs 800 per voter monthly, instead of running leakage-prone schemes.
    To put an end to corruption, he sees hope in Kejriwal. “I have been persuading him to enter politics, but he never wanted to till he changed his mind recently,” says Mittal.
    Shantanu Bhagwat was a former Indian Foreign Services officer who quit in 2001 and went into venture capital outfits. He, subsequently, began blogging to mobilise public opinion and support for his idea of a new India. He co-founded the Freedom Team of India (FTI) as a means to mobilise those who are willing to contest elections to clean up politics. He hasn’t formed a party yet, but is keenly watching Kejriwal’s progress. He says he is close to Narayan’s anti-corruption party, Lok Satta.
    Sanjeev Sabhlok, a former Indian Administrative Services officer, was fed up with the “system”, too. He says the system is like a cesspool feeding endless disease-carrying mosquitoes (or corrupt officials and politicians). He quit the services in 2001 to start a liberal party like Rajaji’s Swatantra Party. He has written a book, Breaking Free of Nehru: Lets Unleash India, and has been working with Bhagawat’s FTI.
    FTI functions more like a club for anyone to join and take a plunge into politics with the intent of changing it for the better. It has 150 members at present. Sabhlok operates from Australia, and advises the government on public policy. He is gearing up to return to India the moment the field is ready for a new political party.
    Both Sabhlok and Bhagawat admire Kejriwal, of course with plenty of reservations. They don’t approve of the economic policies that Kejriwal has spoken of so far. Sabhlok says he has met Kejriwal and tried to show him his idea of reform, “but he has not been responsive”. “I’ve not given up. I continue to try to reach out to him.”
    But Kejriwal’s admirers have a word of caution for him. “Many of his ideas, such as fixing prices for essential commodities, are deeply socialist, and will take India further down the path of ruin. We need serious policy thinkers to come forward, not economics illiterates,” says Sabhlok.

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    Kezriwal is not open to suggestion! It will cost him a lot in future!

    PS: Jai Prakash Narayan was instrumental in bringing RTI!!
    Last edited by vicky84; November 12th, 2012 at 06:04 AM.

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  28. #16
    Heard of reports comparing him to Hitler, Anna himself endorsed it.

    I am still not sure how can corruption be the only issue to choose a party and give them country's charge.

    Quote Originally Posted by atishmohan View Post
    Kezriwal is not open to suggestion! It will cost him a lot in future!

    PS: Jai Prakash Narayan was instrumental in bringing RTI!!
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

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  30. #17
    The way he is leading the movement suggest that he is not open to any suggestions. He is proving himself a dictator! Lot of activist have left his movement as he does not listen to them. My way or Highway never work in a democratic country!

    Also I have serious doubts on this JanLokpal Bill. I don't know why people do not understand simple things!

    Quote Originally Posted by desijat View Post
    Heard of reports comparing him to Hitler, Anna himself endorsed it.

    I am still not sure how can corruption be the only issue to choose a party and give them country's charge.
    Last edited by vicky84; November 12th, 2012 at 12:02 PM.

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    Dr Subramanian Swamy interview about Arvind Kejriwal Black Money press conference


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    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

  34. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by desijat View Post
    Heard of reports comparing him to Hitler, Anna himself endorsed it.

    I am still not sure how can corruption be the only issue to choose a party and give them country's charge.
    Hitler had a lot of positive stuff as well. So "what" is important here.

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