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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by HawaSinghSangwan View Post
    Untold Story of Ch. Ranbir Singh
    -Hawa Singh Sangwan, Ex. Commandant. Mob. No. 94160-56145

    Late Ch. Chhotu Ram had to quit the Congress Party after the differences erupted with Gandhi Ji on Non Co-operation Movement during 1920. In 1923 Ch. Chhotu Ram had formed Unionist Party known as Jamindara Party also, after the collaboration with Fazle-A- Hussan with the sole aim of welfare of peasantary class, labour class and the rural based people as a whole, to keep them out of the exploitation by the middlemen and usury in Joint Punjab. Within short span of time, the Unionist Party had grabed the power in Joint Punjab during 1926 and continued in majority till the sudden demise of Ch. Chhotu Ram on 9th January, 1945. Before the demise of Ch. Chhotu Ram, a very big rally was organized on 8th May, 1944 at Miyawali now in Pakistan to challenge the plan of Mr. Jinnha for the formation of Pakistan in Punjab, because all the 81 Muslim MLAs were in the Unionist Party. Two MLAs of Muslim League, who were elected in the last election had also ................... The ideology of the Unionist was shattered and none of the partyman was left to carry forward the legacy of Late Ch. Chhotu Ram in free India.
    On 14th July, 1947, a Constituent Assembly of India was formed consisting 389 members to draft the Indian Constitution, out of which Ch. Ranbir Singh was lone staunch Haryanvi member at the young age of 32 years. To draft the Indian Constitution, the Assembly so constituted had taken 165 days in sitting, covering into 11 sessions and 114 days were spent on the consideration the Draft of the Constitution. The first Draft of the Constitution which was circulated to seek the public response, did not refer to village or peasant or Panchayat at all. The work was assigned to a Drafting Committee consisting of seven members. Dr. B.R. Ambedkar was its Chairman. Coincidently, none of the seven members of the Committee was a villager or a peasant. Whereas, the village, the peasant and values which had got evoled during hard, long struggle for freedom were conspicuously absent in the drafts.
    On 6th Nov. 1948, the Constituent Assembly of India had met in the Constitutional Hall at 10 A.M. on Saturday being Vice- President Dr. H. C. Mukharjee in the Chair. All the senior members such as Pt. Nehru, Sardar Patel, Maulana Abdul Kalam Azad, J.B, Kriplani, C. Rajgopalacharya, Sarojini Naidu, Dr. Rajender Prasad, Sharat Chander Bose, Babu Jagjiwan Ram etc. were sitting in the front row. One of the youngest member of the assembly, Ch. Ranbir Singh sitting in the next row was pretty nervous in the beginning with sort of mixed feeling high and low. His heart and mind was rolling somewhere in a village, a mean peasant’s life, witnessing KURKI(mortgage) of the land etc. of a poor farmer.
    One member, Babu Thakur Dass Ji was advocating the urbanization in his speech. As soon as his speech was over, the young Ch. Ranbir Singh after due permission of the Chair had started delivering his speech with his full confidence and calibre that the constitution is incomplete without incorporation of village, peasant and Panchayat. While eloberating his speech, he had given emphasis on upliftment of village and peasant’s life with giving proper price of his product, strengthing the national co-operative organization of the agricultural products, ensuing (Bima) of his crops and abolishing usury. On 18th Nov. 1948, he was the first leader, who had demanded for separate state of Haryana, in the Constituent Assembly, having old Delhi as its capital. Later on, after 16 years, his demand had became voice of Akalis, Swami Omanand, Ch. Devi Lal and Prof. Sher Singh etc. He had also demanded to divide U.P. into two states to cease its border upto Yamuna river in the West. Now we can easily imagine his vision and wisdom.
    He was first leader of India, who have pleaded for making retaintion of the Land Alienation Act on 2nd December, 1948 in the Constituent Assembly. When his demand for Haryana State was not accepted, on Ist August, 1949 he had pleaded for inclusion of rural Delhi and New Delhi in Punjab state. Moreover, he had demanded for special economical concession for Punjab state for 10 years due to its suffering in the partition. On 19th August, 1949, he had bluntly pleaded to exempt the peasant’s class and Harijan from all forms of the taxes. Ch. Ranbir Singh was the first leader in Free India who had demanded the reservation for the villagers as a whole. Dr. B.R. Ambedkar was the first leader who had demanded the reservation for the depressed class. While speaking on Public Service Commission and New Employment Policy, Ch. Ranbir Singh had clearly addressed the Constituent Assembly on 22nd August, 1949 “martial races belong to to the countryside(rural) these people still join the Army as soldiers but the military officers are mostly urban people. Thus the need of our is that the backward people of the villages should be helped to advance forward for which reservation is necessary.” On 24 Nov. 1949, he was the first leader in India who had demanded for the abolition of Jagirdari system in free India and also demanded for an early completion of Bhakra Dam works projecting this as a life line for Punjab state. While speaking on Railway Budget 1948, he had demanded for smooth transportation of agricultural products by the Railways, for which he had quoted an example “Chana is being sold at @ Rs. 5 maund in Hisar region, whereas the same is being sold @ Rs. 50 per maund in Madras region causing loss to the farmers and consumers both, due to shortage of Railway wagons. Similarly, he had given examples of Gur and other agricultural products also.
    It is most pertinent to note that Ch. Ranbir Singh had given new definition to “General Public Interest,” while speaking about land holdings on 2nd Dec. 1948 “it can mean only the interests of the peasantry and labours not only the interest of the vocal middle class intelligentia and vested people” it clearly shows his pain for the poor classes whom he had loved and having great affection from the core of his heart.
    His speeches can be divided into two parts i.e first which made in the Constituent Assembly for the purpose of making of the Constitution and second for the legislating. During this period of two and half years, he had voiced on various important matters as follow in addition to the above. The subjects were – Problem of ‘pest’ control, Uniformity of Land Revenue, Problems of Agriculturists and Peasantry, Cotton Textile Cess Bill 1948, Railway Budget 1948, General Budget 1948, Electricity Bill 1948, Reserve Bank Bill 1948, Grow More Food Compaign, Hindu Marriage Validity Bill 1949, General Budget 1949, Indian Finance Bill 1949, Child Marriage Rastraint Bill 1949 and Essential Supplies Bill 1949 etc.etc. He had judiciously picked up all the clauses of the bills related to the farmers and villagers very intelligently and the concerned Ministers thereto had to give reply during the debates in length. It is very momentous to note that he was the first leader who had established “All India Backward Sangh” in 1960 and once the then Vice President of India, Sh. Radha Krishan had also presided over one of its function.
    Ch. Ranbir Singh was a very good orator who had performed his duties as a member of the Constituent Assembly, with his high esteem, zeal and zenith, for which he fully deserved all praises, appreciation and due admiration. But it is still common belief among the Haryanvi that late Ch. Ranbir Singh was a mute member of the Constituent Assembly, because of his works were not timely publicized due to obvious reasons that is why this article is given name as an “Untold Story”. I hope this article both in English and Hindi is likely to help in awareness about the excellent job done by our respected leader and the departed soul. Ch. Ranbir Singh was only leader being a Congressman who had carried forward the legacy as well as ideology of late Ch. Chhotu Ram immediately after India got the freedom in 1947, through his eloquency and action.
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    (Extracts from the speeches of Ch. Ranbir Singh in the Constituent Assembly of India and RTI.)
    Note : It is our moral duty to project the good deeds of our departed leaders irrespective of religion, region, sect and political lien, without any prejudice and prediction.

    No doubt Ch. Ranbir Singh was a great person in his own right but it is no service to the revered late leader to paint his picture larger than life.

    Just two points.

    Leave aside legacy issue, kindly let us know Who from Rohtak had opposed tooth and nail in the election of Ch. Chhotu Ram to The Punjab Legislative Council in 1920's and 30's ?

    A great piece of research to learn that '' On 24 Nov. 1949, he [Ch. Ranbir Singh] was the first leader in India who had demanded for the abolition of Jagirdari system in free India.''

    Keep it up please !!
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; February 16th, 2013 at 10:52 PM.
    History is best when created, better when re-constructed and worst when invented.

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  3. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by jaisingh318 View Post
    bagar ka manas deshwaliya m atte rang badal liya kara girgat ki dhall .............ya too janta hoga acchi dhaal
    kay baat sidhamsidha congreesi kahan m kay sharm awe s tamne......khamkha k fafde maccha r so
    Sura ka ishara congress ki taraf nhi lokdal ki taraf hai kyunki lokdal ka mukhiya bagri hai. thare baap dada ne paa pakde bagriyana k and aagey bhi pakogey guarantee sai ya bhi. filhaal dekha ki mhara bagri jail mein gya to tham deshwali rowo so. Bagri jail mein ja and rowe deshwali , dekha bagriyon ka jalwa

    N Dekh le Ch Devilal jo khud ek bagri the,kabhi kisi bhi dehwali ko nhi ubharane dia and vo bhi bina sarkar banaye most of the time. Betaaj badshah the , isse sa ham bagri
    Last edited by rinkusheoran; February 17th, 2013 at 04:05 AM.
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  4. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by jaisingh318 View Post
    aahoo mahre gamm m 8 t 9 bagroo mol ari s...........unki aulad bhoot nikkme s..............
    unn aulad mein tain ek aulad tu bhi sai
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  5. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post

    No doubt Ch. Ranbir Singh was a great person in his own right but it is no service to the revered late leader to paint his picture larger than life.

    Just two points.

    Leave aside legacy issue, kindly let us know Who from Rohtak had opposed tooth and nail in the election of Ch. Chhotu Ram to The Punjab Legislative Council in 1920's and 30's ?

    A great piece of research to learn that '' On 24 Nov. 1949, he [Ch. Ranbir Singh] was the first leader in India who had demanded for the abolition of Jagirdari system in free India.''

    Keep it up please !!
    Dr Sahab

    All that is mentioned above is based on RTI and you can refer it by yourself.Ch Ranbir hooda in 1920 was hardly 6 year old (kache mein handan ki umer thi) and 16 in 1930.

    as far as i know This family was even supportive of Jat institutes in rohtak that Ch Chhoturam built and even today also they are member of those institutes. Aur Haan aaj jitne bade jat gharane hai haryana mein sab ke sab Ch chhoturam ki khilaf the and gandhi k chamche the. Some even showed him black flags as well. Lekin Ch chhoturam ji K jane k baad sabne kahin na kahin unki soch aagey badhai kisi ne kam n kisi ne jayda.
    Last edited by rinkusheoran; February 17th, 2013 at 04:03 AM.
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  6. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by rinkusheoran View Post
    Tain khamaka ka matha kyun maare kare? kimme tarak aali baat bhi kar lia kadde ki sairf bolan to matlab sai? tere kisse bagri nai lagi kasuti aangli kari sai jo bagriyan n itna yaad kar ja sai
    bhai tu amrica m rehta hoga jabe isi baat kare h


    Think which become obvious in future

  7. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by rinkusheoran View Post
    Dr Sahab

    All that is mentioned above is based on RTI and you can refer by yourself. This family was even supportive of Jat institutes in rohtak that Ch Chhoturam built and even today also they are member of those. Aur Haan aaj jitne bade jat gharane hai sab Ch chhoturam ki khilaf the and gandhi k chamche the. Lekin Ch chhoturam ji K jane k baad sabne kahin na kahin unki soch aagey badhai kisne ne kam n kisi ne jayda.
    amrica aale tere zeroooo lumber hain


    Think which become obvious in future

  8. #27
    Quote Originally Posted by VivekGathwala View Post
    bhai tu amrica m rehta hoga jabe isi baat kare h
    tanne kad bera patga gattu
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  9. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by VivekGathwala View Post
    amrica aale tere zeroooo lumber hain
    tain to pass ho gya hoga ya kammi sai
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  10. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post

    No doubt Ch. Ranbir Singh was a great person in his own right but it is no service to the revered late leader to paint his picture larger than life.

    Just two points.

    Leave aside legacy issue, kindly let us know Who from Rohtak had opposed tooth and nail in the election of Ch. Chhotu Ram to The Punjab Legislative Council in 1920's and 30's ?

    A great piece of research to learn that '' On 24 Nov. 1949, he [Ch. Ranbir Singh] was the first leader in India who had demanded for the abolition of Jagirdari system in free India.''

    Keep it up please !!
    बाँस ने नेजा बनान कि कोशिश स या ,कौनि होवे |
    :rockwhen you found a key to success,some ideot change the lock,*******BREAK THE DOOR.
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    पगड़ी संभाल जट्टा |
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  12. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by ravinderjeet View Post
    बाँस ने नेजा बनान कि कोशिश स या ,कौनि होवे |
    If he was not Bhupinder Hooda's father , would you have given the same kind of reaction
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

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  14. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by rinkusheoran View Post
    If he was not Bhupinder Hooda's father , would you have given the same kind of reaction
    bhai je Ranbir Singh Bhuppi ka baabu na hota te uske geet bhi koye na gaave hey. Call me ignorant, but I have never ever heard about Ranbir Hooda until Bhuppi became a CM.

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  16. #32
    Quote Originally Posted by sanjeev1984 View Post
    ye pehli bar nahi hua hai bhai... yahan 2-4 bhai aise hi baat likh dete hain... taliban style main... aap sawal nahi kar sakte... agar karoge to aap anti-jat ho...
    arey bhai hooda ke favour mai baat ni karengee to aur kiske favour mai karengee..samjhaa karo bhahiyo

  17. #33
    maane to yoo yee naa samajh aa rii k sangwan saab kyo uss admii ke geet gaa ree hai jisse haryana mai aaj se 8 saal pehle koi naa jaanta tha....may b iske peeche unka koi motive ho..kya motive hai ye to time hi batayega..hooda ke cm baane se pehle to sangwan saab ne kabhi senior hooda ke geeet na gaaye?kya uss time tak senior hooda ki koi pechaan naa thi?ibb hooda ke cm baaante thee uska baabu freedom fighter jaato ka masihaa bhi ban gya.....very veryy nice

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  19. #34
    aur yeh wahi log hai jo nu kaha karte ek "jaat kade congressi ni hua arr jaatni kadhe vidhwa ni hui"..waah ri raajneeti..chaudhary chotu ram tai ranbeer hooda pe aa liye..!!... baaki nu batao tharre main arr yashpal malik main ke fark hain jo thaam usne gaal baku jaao saari haan..wo parwa sai ya kimme kuch aur?
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  21. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    aur yeh wahi log hai jo nu kaha karte ek "jaat kade congressi ni hua arr jaatni kadhe vidhwa ni hui"..waah ri raajneeti.\
    To bhai agle election main Ajit Singh ka patta saaf hona pakka hai? Ar nyu bhi bata die ak Chaudhary Charan Singh 1967 te pahle kya the jab we Congress ki sath the. Jat hona to te cancel kar dia

    Chal auro ki chorh nyu bata apni vote to na gerega converted congressi ku?
    Last edited by desijat; February 19th, 2013 at 11:42 AM.
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

  22. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by desijat View Post
    To bhai agle election main Ajit Singh ka patta saaf hona pakka hai? Ar nyu bhi bata die ak Chaudhary Charan Singh 1967 te pahle kya the jab we Congress ki sath the. Jat hona to te cancel kar dia

    Chal auro ki chorh nyu bata apni vote to na gerega converted congressi ku?
    Bhai vikas ajeet singh ka to kuch kissa hi ni raha...par tere congree ka naam aatu hi rocket kyoun laag jaa hai?...raat main neend aa jaa tanne theek- thaak ek na? tu congressi hai theek baat hai par tai to katai naas pe ku laathi fer di mere yaar..kadhi kadhak to ek aadh baat pee jaaya kar congress ki...baaki tere bhi wohi kasuta rog sai jisne mahrre rajpal dular ji, sanjeev bhai, ravinder sura ji ki pindliya main khaaz kar raakhi ..kadhe to daat jaaya kar..baaki teri marzi..arr bhai mere tanne saari baat ka ni byara..tu beech main kai saal aade geda maaran ni aaya ..to tu raahan hi deta
    Last edited by prashantacmet; February 19th, 2013 at 04:23 PM.
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  24. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    Bhai vikas ajeet singh ka to kuch kissa hi ni raha...par tere congree ka naam aatu hi rocket kyoun laag jaa hai?...r

    ना तो मैं कॉंग्रेस की बड़ाई करी आर ना मैं बुराई, फेर क्यू मिर्च लग री है?

    एक चुटकुला तो सुना होगा, जात की साइकल बिगड़ की तो एक जाते हुए बहमन नेबूझा आर के बात चौधरी चैन उतार गी? जाट पे जवाब तो बना ना पर नीचा क्यूकर देखता उसने भी कहा अक तेरी भी तो चोरी भाज गी थी...

    तो भाई तेरा अजीत सिंघ का अँधा प्रेम तो जाग जाहिर है जैसे बाकिया का अँधा मोदी प्रेम, जब तर्क वितर्क करने की क्षमता नही रहती तो इससे ही उल्टे सीधे जवाब दे के सीँघ ालझाते फ़िरो.

    खैर, एक बार फेर बुझउ हू:

    १) अजीत सिंघ की वोट तो ना गेरेगा इब की बार ? काम तो उसने करा ना ढेले का अर् कॉंग्रेस ते मिल के जाट भी ना रहा इब
    २) चौधरी चरण सिंघ १९६७ मैं जाट बने या उस्ते पहले भी थे जब वी कॉंग्रेस के सदस्या थे

    जवाब हो तो दे दिए, ना ते एक और नकली कहावत ढूँढ लाइए जो किसने सुनी ना हो
    सच्चे शब्दों में सच के अहसास लिखेंगे ...
    वक्त पढे जिसको कुछ इतना खास लिखेंगे...
    गीत गजल हम पर लिखेंगे लिखने वाले...
    हमने कलम उठाइ, तो इतिहास लिखेंगे...!!

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  26. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    aur yeh wahi log hai jo nu kaha karte ek "jaat kade congressi ni hua arr jaatni kadhe vidhwa ni hui"..waah ri raajneeti..chaudhary chotu ram tai ranbeer hooda pe aa liye..!!... baaki nu batao tharre main arr yashpal malik main ke fark hain jo thaam usne gaal baku jaao saari haan..wo parwa sai ya kimme kuch aur?
    Tain to tarak aal insaan sai n har baat k piche tarak khojat hai fir ayah kaise chuk gya? ye article to RTI pe adharit hai khud pta kar le n nyu bta de ki iss article mein congress party ka kahan jikar hai? n uper wali baat ko manta hai ya sirf padhi padhi thi ki 'jat kade congressi koni huwa n jatni kadde vidhwa koni hui'? n hosake to Desi ka jawab bhi de dio
    Last edited by rinkusheoran; February 20th, 2013 at 08:53 AM.
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  27. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by VPannu View Post
    bhai je Ranbir Singh Bhuppi ka baabu na hota te uske geet bhi koye na gaave hey. Call me ignorant, but I have never ever heard about Ranbir Hooda until Bhuppi became a CM.
    Pannu Bhai,

    Many people have not even heard about Kartar singh sarabha, Ch mahender pratap so what does mean? How many Jats talk about them? Logon ko ye bhi nhi pta ki Jiss azad hind faj ka senapatti Subhash chander bose tha uss ka senapatti ch Mahender pratap the so what does mean and please don t assume I'm comparing them with Ranbir Hooda.As i said in my first post in this thread as i have my own reservations till i completely verify but article is on the basis of RTI so one can find by themselves.
    Last edited by rinkusheoran; February 20th, 2013 at 08:36 AM.
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

  28. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by cutejaatsandeep View Post
    maane to yoo yee naa samajh aa rii k sangwan saab kyo uss admii ke geet gaa ree hai jisse haryana mai aaj se 8 saal pehle koi naa jaanta tha....may b iske peeche unka koi motive ho..kya motive hai ye to time hi batayega..hooda ke cm baane se pehle to sangwan saab ne kabhi senior hooda ke geeet na gaaye?kya uss time tak senior hooda ki koi pechaan naa thi?ibb hooda ke cm baaante thee uska baabu freedom fighter jaato ka masihaa bhi ban gya.....very veryy nice

    Tanne ek baat bataun bera koni hoga, Jab Ch Hawa singh Sangwanji aarskshan k liye gaon jana start kia tha to tere jisse kaha karte ki CRPF se officer retire huye hain n ticket lengey MLA ki and aaj tai tere aisa hi keh rahe hain bas unki party badalate rahte hain lekin Sangwan Sahab khud samaj mein kaam mein pahle bhi utna hai samil the n aaj usse kahin jyada. Ab jiss insan ki soch jiss level ki hogi wahi tak sochega na usse uper kahan jayega kyun? N tere liye bta deta hun ki tere netao ne to Rehber-E-Azam Ch Chhoturam ka naam daba dia tha dost ye to ranbir hooda tha.Sochna iss baat ko agar rajniti se uper uth sake to kabhi n ye sari baatein RTI pe adharit hain, laga le n prove kar de galat agar juth lagti hain to.
    Last edited by rinkusheoran; February 20th, 2013 at 08:39 AM.
    Khudi ko kar buland itna ke har taqder se pehle
    Khuda bande se ye poche bata teri raza kia hai

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