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    On Buddha and Buddhism...

    In my humble opinion, I think Siddharta was a true seeker of knowledge for he left his palace, wife and son, at the age of 29, to find answers to the purpose of life and all the difficulties etc of life. He wandered for 7 years, living on the donations by common people of food and clothes when at the age of 36, he was satisfied with the answers he obtained via enlightenment. Thereupon, he decided to share his knowledge with other seekers and lay people, while travelling from place to place.
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    I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
    Become more and more innocent, less knowledgeable and more childlike. Take life as fun - because that's precisely what it is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
    His quest for enlightenment was the most intense as he sacrificed everything he had. No wonder he was rewarded accordingly. " Jitna gud daalo, utna hi meetha" saying applies so well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
    I guess he was a Jat because Jats are the most enlightened people on the planet earth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
    You can say among the contemporary philosophers he was a person with most pragmatic, progressive and scientific vision. Many of the ideals espoused by him are highly and eternally relevant in human life. The most important is his propagation of control on desires upto the optimum level.
    Last edited by singhvp; October 5th, 2013 at 09:52 PM.

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    Could anyone kindly enlighten about the reasons of his orthodoxy and rigidity of his views on the participation of women in preaching Buddhism as full time preachers.

    Thanks and regards
    Last edited by DrRajpalSingh; October 5th, 2013 at 11:31 PM.
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    Amarpali, a woman courtsan, was inducted as nun by Buddha himself.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Could anyone kindly enlighten about the reasons of his orthodoxy and rigidity of his views on the participation of women in preaching Buddhism as full time preachers.

    Thanks and regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by urmiladuhan View Post
    Amarpali, a woman courtsan, was inducted as nun by Buddha himself.
    Nuns were introduced but many restrictions were imposed upon them. Bodh Bhiksus always had the final say over the nuns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prashantacmet View Post
    I think that Budhha was the most enlightened man world has ever seen........
    With due regards to his greatness otherwise perhaps his views regarding the role of women were not as progressive as they could have been because on the asking by one of his disciples about it he did not approve of them to join the Samgha as full time preachers. Was it not so ?

    Thanks and regards
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    Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

    As far as I know -
    - They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
    - Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

    I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "

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    Quote Originally Posted by rekhasmriti View Post
    Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

    As far as I know -
    - They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
    - Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

    I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "
    You are right. Among all Chanakya said the worst things about women. My personal views are that man is the worst hypocrite and no wonder supreme God is always identified as a male. Buddha was a milder version of Taliban as far as his views about woman are concerned.

    RK^2



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    Last edited by rkumar; October 6th, 2013 at 12:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rekhasmriti View Post
    Question is who had approved the equal status of women wrt men ?

    As far as I know -
    - They were treated as goddess , every auspicious thing start n never completes without them
    - Was it some way to keep them restricted to some particular responsibility / work/job / profession etc .

    I once read Chanakya's views about Women ........ he always indicated women less capable than men . Also read somewhere ( hindu mythology ) -Once a king asked how would I know that Satyug is over and Kalyug has emerged . He was told some signs one of them was " When WOMEN would start getting equal rights as of men "
    Since Buddhism rose as a revolt against the prevalence of some of wrong practices, traditions and conventions of the then Hinduism, the question is to ponder over why Buddha did not provide equal opportunity to Women in his Samgha.
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    Siddharta left his palace in search for truth of life, and not to revolt against any religion or their practices.


    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    Since Buddhism rose as a revolt against the prevalence of some of wrong practices, traditions and conventions of the then Hinduism, the question is to ponder over why Buddha did not provide equal opportunity to Women in his Samgha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrRajpalSingh View Post
    With due regards to his greatness otherwise perhaps his views regarding the role of women were not as progressive as they could have been because on the asking by one of his disciples about it he did not approve of them to join the Samgha as full time preachers. Was it not so ?

    Thanks and regards
    Do they allow Woman preachers in Hinduism? Has there been any woman Shakracharya ever or any Maharishi ?

    RK^2
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    Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...

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    An interesting incident in Buddhas life has been captured in sculpture form (2 nd B.C.E, I believe) where Buddha meets his son and wife after his enlightenment. Buddha's wife nudges Rahula (her son) to ask his father for his inheritance from him. When Rahula approaches Buddha for his inheritance, Buddha gently advances his begging bowl towards his son, meaning that is what Buddha has to offer to his son. In true sense, Buddha was giving his son what all he possessed.




    QUOTE=upendersingh;349259]Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...[/QUOTE]
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    His philosophy, as I understand, is of compassion and kindness towards oneself and towards others. He believed in karma, that suffering is the result of bad karma. He believed in re birth. He believed that one could negate the effects of bad karma by realisation and through creation of good karma and by consciously paying attention to our thoughts...
    Really very good and practical philosophy, I believe.



    Quote Originally Posted by upendersingh View Post
    Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...
    Attention seekers and attention getters are two different class of people.

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    Living in jungles was no easy task. It required overcoming fears of lonliness, wild animals, hunger, diseases, death, uncertainity etc. In my opinion, only a person who is a true seeker would take such a path.

    Quote Originally Posted by upendersingh View Post
    Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...
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    I suppose he fulfilled his destiny. The thoughts about death, old age, suffering etc that would trouble him when he was living in palace among all luxury, no longer troubled him after enlightenment. He found out that the source of suffering was ones own thoughts and actions and this knowledge enabled him to change his thinking and thus his life.

    Quote Originally Posted by upendersingh View Post
    Would some body enlighten me about the philosophy of Buddha? All I know about him is that he was a prince. He married a beautiful woman, made her mother of a kid and when he should have fulfilled the duties of a father, husband and son as well, he fled to jungle. Well, no doubt he is inspiring figure, but certainly doesn't deserve 100/100 marks. What result he got out of his penance? He also died after suffering a lot, after growing old. He is also supposed to be bigger apostle of peace than Gandhi. Peace...#$&*#...
    Last edited by urmiladuhan; October 7th, 2013 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Grammar
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkumar View Post
    Do they allow Woman preachers in Hinduism? Has there been any woman Shakracharya ever or any Maharishi ?

    RK^2
    So it may be presumed that this new Reformation Movement too did fail to provide equal opportunities for women.

    But the question arises, WHY Buddha did so ?

    Thanks and regards
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