jatt history is bundle of lie..is it??

[ZaildarTejSeng]

got info about few other things about ranjeet singh . here are few points..

1. ancestors of ranjeet singh were part of singhpuria misal..that was led by nawab kapoor singh virk...another legendry jatt in history of punjab.....they later parted their way with singhpuria misal

2. father of ranjeet singh was maha singh..and mother was raj kaur , daughter of raja gajpat of jind...raja gajpat was from the lineage of Phulkia Misal....phulkia misal founded and executed by sidhu-brara jatt lineage..so gajpat of jind was probabaly a sidhu-brar jatt.... so ranjeet singh mother was a jatti as I read..few says raja gajpat was a sansi... under jassa singh ahluwalia (ahluwalia misa) sikh rule was spread in haryana by phulkia people.

3. ranjeet singh killed his mother..because he doubted that she was having a illicit relationship after his father death
4. all three successors of ranjeet singh were from jatt wives..kharak singh 's mother was datar kaur..daughter of chief of nakkai misal(sandhu jatt). sher'singh mother was from kanhaiya misal ( another sandhu jatt misal).....sada -kaur was leading the kanhiaya misal at that time..sada kaur , a gill jatti and mothe rin law of ranjet singh..having good interfere in ranjeet singh state affairs
5. motherof dallep singh was rani jindan kaur ..aulakh jatti..
6. most prominent misal was bhangi misal...leaded by hari singh dhillon..they were called bhangi due to their addiction of bhaang...sukerchakia misal and ramgarhia misal joined hands and defeated bhangi misals

7. sansar chand katoch of kangra..a rajput king alo gave their daughters to ranjeet singh..and one of them sat on the pyre of ranjeet singh when he died...so sat-pratha was in vogue of ranjeet singh family or it was just his rajput wife act...jatts have rare examples of sati-pratha..

8. so jatts gave their daughters, rajput gave their daughters to ranjeet singh family..if he was a sansi and rose to the status of jatts by achieving power and strength..still it makes a little sense that so many jatts and rajputs had given their daughters to a low class family.......

I agree with most parts. Apart from (8). To further the discussion, let's dig deep into that, as it is the most controversial.

Also, regarding Point (1). We know that Maharaja Ranjit Singh's ancestor Budh Singh was a cultivator and a landowner, and obtained Chaudhriat (a jagir, in a sense), i.e. he was also a titled Chaudhry.

(8) If we know that Sansi Jatts still exist in Gujranwala, but a "Sansi" nomadic tribe is nowhere to be found... how can the "Sikh historians" be so sure that Maharaja Ranjit Singh was not a Jatt, where his ancestory, relation, occupation, socio-economic and leadership status all seem to indicate that he is a Jatt?

Looks like we've got to analyze the sources from which the idea originates.

[Romar]

I agree with most parts. Apart from (8). To further the discussion, let's dig deep into that, as it is the most controversial.

Also, regarding Point (1). We know that Maharaja Ranjit Singh's ancestor Budh Singh was a cultivator and a landowner, and obtained Chaudhriat (a jagir, in a sense), i.e. he was also a titled Chaudhry.

(8) If we know that Sansi Jatts still exist in Gujranwala, but a "Sansi" nomadic tribe is nowhere to be found... how can the "Sikh historians" be so sure that Maharaja Ranjit Singh was not a Jatt, where his ancestory, relation, occupation, socio-economic and leadership status all seem to indicate that he is a Jatt?

Looks like we've got to analyze the sources from which the idea originates.

Kuch sawaal aapke liye hain ki sandhawalia gotra ke kitne gaam hain punjab main aaj ki taarikh mein?
Doosra ahluwalia aur uppal jaaton ke gotra kis prakaar bane?